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[Korumba]

The People that get out and ride together http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=24981 are getting knocked back for enjoying the comradeship that it would normally encourage, what's up with that.

Maybe the net is the safest place to be... not for the real life experience's when we ride, but maybe for the egos that this site has developed.

Bling / Post Counts seem to have a lot of influence here, I personally dont need it, the people moderating the forums seem to live and breath it.

This site is fantastic, I use it to meet and ride with like minded people and to that extent it has been great, but something has gone in the last few days...


I trust this is in the right thread because Free Speech, Politics and Law are something worth fighting for.

[NighthawkNZ]

:yawn:


....

[98tls]

but something has gone in the last few days...
. Imagine how the Samoans feel.

[Korumba]

With their hands??

[Toot Toot]

Imagine how the Samoans feel.
I heard they're hitting New Zealand shores in waves these days.

[SixPackBack]

Yes, I think you are correct. The ghost of Joni is starting to make its presence felt [well meaning incompetence]. Favouritism and cronyism are the flavour of the day. Add in a touch of the far right and an average moderator age of 'grandad/grandma' and KB has a real need for some fresh young blood.

[yungatart]

HB is going through the same process right now. Our ride thread is no longer to be used for talking heaps of shit.
Its an evolving thing, is KB. Its no big deal. Harden up!

[Morcs]

Morcs for senior mod!

[CookMySock]

Haha, thats funny az. :killingme

Steve

[Nasty]

The People that get out and ride together http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=24981 are getting knocked back for enjoying the comradeship that it would normally encourage, what's up with that.

Maybe the net is the safest place to be... not for the real life experience's when we ride, but maybe for the egos that this site has developed.

Bling / Post Counts seem to have a lot of influence here, I personally dont need it, the people moderating the forums seem to live and breath it.

This site is fantastic, I use it to meet and ride with like minded people and to that extent it has been great, but something has gone in the last few days...


I trust this is in the right thread because Free Speech, Politics and Law are something worth fighting for.

Read the other thread that you posted in (praise/criticism of mods) and that will answer some of your questions.

Let me pose this question - and take time to think about it.

Why are these people special that they can do whatever they want and others on here can't and follow the rules. I can not see the difference that they have from the Manawatu crowd. the Hawkes Bay riders, the Wellington groups or the Aucklanders ... that means that they don't need to follow the site set up and be special on their own.

In addition, "saying this the people moderating the forums seem to live and breath it" - I don't think you are commenting on the moderators ... cause none of us give a shit.

[crazyhorse]

Well, I'd like to know why one moderator can post up porn pictures that are not R-rated, and nothing gets done about it. That to me seems like this site has double standards.

yes, I have had infractions, but I now try to stay within the boundaries, but this does not appear to stop the top chiefs from following their own rules :done:

[Nasty]

Well, I'd like to know why one moderator can post up porn pictures that are not R-rated, and nothing gets done about it. That to me seems like this site has double standards.

yes, I have had infractions, but I now try to stay within the boundaries, but this does not appear to stop the top chiefs from following their own rules :done:

Which one??? and also where etc

[James Deuce]

That's "breathe" by the way.

[CookMySock]

this does not appear to stop the top chiefs from following their own rulesThis is a website where the creators and administrators simply may do as they wish. If they choose to take the site in some "new direction" then so be it. If they choose to break their own rules, then stiff cheese.

If there is some way it directly has an effect on your freedom then you might take it up with them.

Any person may start such a website. It's a free Internet.

Steve

[James Deuce]

Any person may start such a website. It's a free Internet.

Steve

Apart from the domain registration, ongoing traffic charges, and rental or physical servers and storage space.

[Jantar]

The People that get out and ride together http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=24981 are getting knocked back for enjoying the comradeship that it would normally encourage, what's up with that.

Maybe the net is the safest place to be... not for the real life experience's when we ride, but maybe for the egos that this site has developed.

Bling / Post Counts seem to have a lot of influence here, I personally dont need it, the people moderating the forums seem to live and breath it.

This site is fantastic, I use it to meet and ride with like minded people and to that extent it has been great, but something has gone in the last few days...


I trust this is in the right thread because Free Speech, Politics and Law are something worth fighting for.

I'm confused. I had a look at the thread you are complaining about, and can't see where people are getting "knocked back". Perhaps you should report the post.

[paddy]

I heard they're hitting New Zealand shores in waves these days.

Was that humour as clever as it seemed or am I reading to much into it?

[babyB]

its not that we're above anyone else.....
just not laying down and rolling over

just cant see why original thread had to be changed/ moved in first place.

[Hitcher]

Smells like teen spirit.

[Fatjim]

Apart from the domain registration, ongoing traffic charges, and rental or physical servers and storage space.

As well as the psychological cost of dealing with those you meet.

[Fatjim]

Smells like teen spirit.
Smacks of ageism.

[Nasty]

its not that we're above anyone else.....
just not laying down and rolling over

just cant see why original thread had to be changed/ moved in first place.

thats funny .. cos that is what the others said ...

Hence since you are no different ... then let it be ....

The original thread no longer met the site rules .. and has been dealt with accordingly ... maybe it should have been done long ago ...

[one-speed]

..............

[babyB]

thats funny .. cos that is what the others said ...

Hence since you are no different ... then let it be ....

The original thread no longer met the site rules .. and has been dealt with accordingly ... maybe it should have been done long ago ...

Well if you had been reading through the thread (to see what shit was actually in it). You would have known it has been tried before ClickHere

[apples]

Well if you had been reading through the thread (to see what shit was actually in it). You would have known it has been tried before ClickHere

Yes well as you see i am new to this site and have enjoyed reading the Tauranga thread,I havnt meet anyone yet looks to me they are a good bunch of people in which ride motorbikes isnt it what this site is about.
But it is all about politices and double standards shit.
Get your head out of your asses(and that was quoted from one of your mods Hitcher i believe)
Why dont you guys get a life i know the Tauranga crew have

[SixPackBack]

thats funny .. cos that is what the others said ...

Hence since you are no different ... then let it be ....

The original thread no longer met the site rules .. and has been dealt with accordingly ... maybe it should have been done long ago ...

You moved the thread because it was felt the content no longer met site rules?

Or because the individuals using the thread started complaining? and did those indviduals out number the ones now complaining to the mods about said removal?

Not hating, just trying to understand motivation!

[one-speed]

As for Tauranga i have been a member for quite so time,i have seem people
come and go,as for what apples mentioned as a newbe is true we get this comment most of the time.
Tauranga group as growen heaps over the years and i have meet some bloody goods freinds, hey thanks to KB.
What we do is we enjoy riding motorbikes and communicating to each other,its what we know.
We are no differant then most places on this site all we would like is to be left alone, let us do our thing meet more people more freinds.
Politices is aload of crap.
dont judge people before ya know them.




Ditto
just cant see why original thread had to be changed/ moved in first place.

[Paul in NZ]

I trust this is in the right thread because Free Speech, Politics and Law are something worth fighting for.

Oh great - I'm officially 'OLD' now because all I thought was 'sigh - another freedom fighter wanting to liberate me through slavery'... sweet...

Whats the problem? You are freer than almost anyone in the world to do as you wish???

[Dean]

I found on the site statistics that there is more posts and threads on Rant & Rave then their is in General Bikes. Thats puts a real bad tarnish to the purpose of this site doesent it, If the admin of this site closed Rant & Rave for atleast a month and see the progress. Where there would only be pointless drivel for Rant & Rave, I think the mods wouldnt have as hard of a time. If people want to rant on about something irrelevant to bikes they can PM a freind or go to another site.

[FROSTY]

Folks --ALL of ya's
Time to sit back and relax. Don't take stupid politicing seriously.
Take KB for what it is

[James Deuce]

I found on the site statistics that there is more posts and threads on Rant & Rave then their is in General Bikes. Thats puts a real bad tarnish to the purpose of this site doesent it, If the admin of this site closed Rant & Rave for atleast a month and see the progress. Where there would only be pointless drivel for Rant & Rave, I think the mods wouldnt have as hard of a time. If people want to rant on about something irrelevant to bikes they can PM a freind or go to another site.

You ever been to a US bike site? Dry, boring, pointless, 1200 posts in total after 15 years of being in existence. If you want a site like that how about you and the incoherent little friend who turns everything you type to gibberish sod off and start your own, boring pointless, "what is a wheel bearing for?" site.

Bye.

[Dean]

You ever been to a US bike site? Dry, boring, pointless, 1200 posts in total after 15 years of being in existence. If you want a site like that how about you and the incoherent little friend who turns everything you type to gibberish sod off and start your own, boring pointless, "what is a wheel bearing for?" site.

Bye.

Im sorry man but thats just it if you want to rave and rant go to another site. You can talk about whatever you like with you're mates on a ride and about wherever you desire.
Forgot to add, just because the "American" bike sites have most pointless dribble doesent mean its alright for us to do the same id like to think us Kiwis are better than that, I bet the mods would find it would be a breeze without threads like "sexual positions" sorry sidewinder or posts like "fuck the police". Lets be honest Im a avid Rant & Rave poster so it makes my reason more valid, as much as its tempting for the shits and giggles riding motorcycles is what its all about at the end of the day.

Bye.

[SixPackBack]

Smells like teen spirit.

We could do with some teen spirit in KB......Get rid of the krusty ol' relics!

[James Deuce]

Im sorry man but thats just it if you want to rave and rant go to another site. You can talk about whatever you like with you're mates on a ride and about wherever you desire.
Forgot to add, just because the "American" bike sites have most pointless dribble doesent mean its alright for us to do the same id like to think us Kiwis are better than that, I bet the mods would find it would be a breeze without threads like "sexual positions" sorry sidewinder or posts like "fuck the police".

Bye.

You're not sorry, so lets get that lie out of the way first.

You're not the boss of me. Or KB.

If you don't like one section on KB, don't look at it.

Jeez. Duh.

[Dean]

You're not sorry, so lets get that lie out of the way first.

You're not the boss of me. Or KB.

If you don't like one section on KB, don't look at it.

Jeez. Duh.
Meh end of conversation k, I dont want to troll this thread with our disagreement.

[FROSTY]

Dean. I just don't understand where you are comeing from.
You have been a member of this forum for a grand total of 9 months.
This forum has been in its current form for at least the last 5 years
You knew full well what you were joining when you joined.

My view of your comments based soley on your latest comments is that you are just like the people who buy houses next to a racetrack then complain about the noise.

Dare I suggest that the very reason that R and R is so big on KB is because KB unlike a lot of web sites is interactive.A large number of us actually know one another and dare I say it are actually freinds in real life.

[James Deuce]

Meh end of conversation k, I dont want to troll this thread with our disagreement.
Why not? I ENJOY being disagreeable. Bring it on.

[babyB]

from here

A club? No.

KB is an online resource for NZ biker groups/individuals to do what they need to do. A central point of communication for organization, info and just talking shit. Although we have many of the trappings of a club, we will never be one. The problem I have with clubs is that they infer the inclusion of some, for the exclusion of others. KB is for anyone who is into two wheels and an engine between their legs.

For those that wish to behave in a club manner, that’s fine. We have shirts, stickers, patches and a flag to make you feel part of a group, but the site will only be that, just a site.

For those who don’t want to be associated with KB, but just use it as a place to keep in touch with other bikers and events, then they shouldn’t feel the need to be part of a club and it’s rules for offsite behaviour.

KB will always help in any way it can to organize and advertise events, but the responsibility for the event remains solely with the organizers. Anyone who wishes to use the Kiwi Biker name for large events, ask for permission so we can make sure the organizers are responsible people.

Kiwi Biker is here to help your offsite activities, not control them.

ill say it again
RE: The Original Tauranga
this thread is a part of who we are
and a small part of who KB is...
a careing community of like minded ppl
& we give thanks to SpankMe for bring us all together:love:

please could you put things back the way the were. im sure your warning has been heard. ... The very first post dose tell every one the basics & tells them to jump to the last post to save them time.
we would realy appreciate our little corner to become intacked again in Meetings and events... they way it originally was

[Dean]

Dean. I just don't understand where you are comeing from.
You have been a member of this forum for a grand total of 9 months.
This forum has been in its current form for at least the last 5 years
You knew full well what you were joining when you joined.

My view of your comments based soley on your latest comments is that you are just like the people who buy houses next to a racetrack then complain about the noise.

Dare I suggest that the very reason that R and R is so big on KB is because KB unlike a lot of web sites is interactive.A large number of us actually know one another and dare I say it are actually freinds in real life.
I am no where near a grand member of this site, speaking of which I have much respect for you as you have a long history in this site and racing. Remember I am not proposing a definite change just maybe a month to see how things get on without Rant and Rave it wont hurt anyone too bad.

RR is a privilege that requires responsibility just like being able to ride motorcycles through certain places or park for free in certain places etc. Well lets face it some (like me) cant help but shoot mouths off and end up in big trouble. Generally this is a biking site, what do we (well most) say to people who dont own a bike but have a high post count? Usually along the lines of "why dont you have a bike". If we can take it away for just a month then see how quiet the trolls are, how breezy things would run along.

Why not? I ENJOY being disagreeable. Bring it on.

Alright but lets keep it mutual, I agree with some points you raised, see above post.

[Ixion]

I found on the site statistics that there is more posts and threads on Rant & Rave then their is in General Bikes. Thats puts a real bad tarnish to the purpose of this site doesent it, If the admin of this site closed Rant & Rave for atleast a month and see the progress. Where there would only be pointless drivel for Rant & Rave, I think the mods wouldnt have as hard of a time. If people want to rant on about something irrelevant to bikes they can PM a freind or go to another site.

Dude, taking this in context with some of your other postings, I'd respectfully suggest that you are confused . This is a site for bikers. Kiwi bikers specifically. Cos that's (a) what we are; and (b) where we are.

Now , what YOU want is http://www.twowheeledcar.com. You'd be much happier there.

[toebug]

Read the other thread that you posted in (praise/criticism of mods) and that will answer some of your questions.

Let me pose this question - and take time to think about it.

Why are these people special that they can do whatever they want and others on here can't and follow the rules. I can not see the difference that they have from the Manawatu crowd. the Hawkes Bay riders, the Wellington groups or the Aucklanders ... that means that they don't need to follow the site set up and be special on their own.

In addition, "saying this the people moderating the forums seem to live and breath it" - I don't think you are commenting on the moderators ... cause none of us give a shit.

I dont think you actually read the tauranga thread you just presumed it was fulkl of shit. Plus you keep saying you dont give a fuck, yet our members keep getting infractions. Maybe the other regions just bent over and took it up the arse, unfortunately tauranga didnt. Our issue is not where we have been moved to but the simple fact we were not consulted as the mods have done in the past. This is not the first time this has happen to us, but it is the first time we were not consulted.


Apart from the domain registration, ongoing traffic charges, and rental or physical servers and storage space.

Its not that expensive and I've never been charged for "traffic", dont have a server or been charged for storage space as that is the hosters job and they charge accordingly.


I'm confused. I had a look at the thread you are complaining about, and can't see where people are getting "knocked back". Perhaps you should report the post.

Read a few more pages and you will see the mods have pissed everyone off, we have had more posts in the last couple of days than we have had for weeks ranting about the mods lack of ability to consult their site members.

[Dean]

Dude, taking this in context with some of your other postings, I'd respectfully suggest that you are confused . This is a site for bikers. Kiwi bikers specifically. Cos that's (a) what we are; and (b) where we are.

Now , what YOU want is. You'd be much happier there.

I do enjoy two wheels in real life but I agree with you that my posts dont shed great light if any at all on motorcycles. Hence the reason why so many RR but little Bike related threads and posts because the same can be said for others. If we had RR banned for a month Id promise you would see more noob biker Dean than Dickhead Dean, goes for many others. Like one bloke I know of on here is a nice person in real life who loves his bike to peices but because of to much of the usual RR many want to give him the boot.

[babyB]

I dont think you actually read the tauranga thread you just presumed it was fulkl of shit. Plus you keep saying you dont give a fuck, yet our members keep getting infractions. Maybe the other regions just bent over and took it up the arse, unfortunately tauranga didnt. Our issue is not where we have been moved to but the simple fact we were not consulted as the mods have done in the past. This is not the first time this has happen to us, but it is the first time we were not consulted.

..........

Read a few more pages and you will see the mods have pissed everyone off, we have had more posts in the last couple of days than we have had for weeks ranting about the mods lack of ability to consult their site members.
this is so true
and becouse of it mods have created the the issue

[babyB]

this rule applies tho the mods too im sure


note the red

site rules

General participation on KB:
A reminder that abuse, fighting and harassment on this forum will not be tolerated. This is a biker community and general banter is part of the general feel. However, any malicious/threatening/abusive comments, images or actions will be dealt with by the Moderators/Administrators. Please keep in mind that threats, abuse or harassment includes comments or images made in the forums, via the reputation system, via pm, any attachments or via the Thread Tag system..



well there are so many other threads on this site that actually need dealing with when it comes to being malicious/threatening/abusive.

[McJim]

How many times has a football player protested to a referee in a professional football match? Thousands of times (prolly tens of thousands).

And how many times has the referee's decision been overturned?

Zero

So why do people still argy bargy about how KB is run? It's a totalitarian dictatorship. Always has been, always will be. If you don't like it then fuck off:motu:

[Mental Trousers]

well there are so many other threads on this site that actually need dealing with when it comes to being malicious/threatening/abusive.

They'll be dealt with eventually. The main problem is the amount of tears and wahh the Moderators have to put up with when they try to stop EVERY thread from turning into 99% shit. Shit talk has it's place. But the majority of it starts elsewhere.

[James Deuce]

Its not that expensive and I've never been charged for "traffic", dont have a server or been charged for storage space as that is the hosters job and they charge accordingly.



It's still an ongoing cost. KB is hosted in the US and costs a little bit more than I what I would expect you are assuming.

[NighthawkNZ]

Its not that expensive and I've never been charged for "traffic", dont have a server or been charged for storage space as that is the hosters job and they charge accordingly.

The amount of traffic KB gets with the number of Database executions a second would crash any standard website hosting plan, as most of them are shared plans where there will be 100's if not 1000's of other websites using a same server. This is the most common website plan and what most people have for their business and private websites...

KB is not hosted on a standard shared website hosting plan... its on its own dedicated server. With this come extra expense, of looking after and hardware, upgrades etc... The software that is used (vBulletin) is not free and is an on going yearly cost for the upgrades and security patches... Depending on the plan depends on how much traffic is allowed... if you go over that it could be an extra charge, it could be the limit the speed, or it could be you get time outs server over load... it could be that you the close the site till the next months bandwidth is allocated or you pay extra and upgrade the plan.

and its not as cheap as you make it out to be

[James Deuce]

Alright but lets keep it mutual, I agree with some points you raised, see above post.

You get one song in the hit parade and your ego expands to gargantuan proportions.

Wind your neck in sport. I don't care what you want from KB, and neither do the other thousands of people who use KB in the way they choose to without the terms and conditions being dictated by someone with an obvious borderline personality disorder.

In the grand scheme of things, neither you, KB or I are of any particular significance. Your (and my) challenge is to take or leave the things that do or don't provide you with a measure of comfort at being so very insignificant.

So I guess I ride the wrong bike too, and the fact that I'd love a Harley-Davidson Rocker in my garage means I'm completely without hope? There are other fights out there to pick. Don't open Rant & Rave dude. Simple. Don't go back to threads that have been sent to the oblivion of Pointless Drivel. Simple.

[Dean]

You get one song in the hit parade and your ego expands to gargantuan proportions.

Wind your neck in sport. I don't care what you want from KB, and neither do the other thousands of people who use KB in the way they choose to without the terms and conditions being dictated by someone with an obvious borderline personality disorder.

In the grand scheme of things, neither you, KB or I are of any particular significance. Your (and my) challenge is to take or leave the things that do or don't provide you with a measure of comfort at being so very insignificant.

So I guess I ride the wrong bike too, and the fact that I'd love a Harley-Davidson Rocker in my garage means I'm completely without hope? There are other fights out there to pick. Don't open Rant & Rave dude. Simple. Don't go back to threads that have been sent to the oblivion of Pointless Drivel. Simple.

HuH? I didnt get any hit songs what are you on about? No big ego, im not a significant person in KB neither do I view myself as one, neither do I care.

LoL to the personality disorder, a fair bunch have met me in person on this site im not a unsocial crab, you're welcome to meet me anyday :) that is if you arent so riled up from what I said.

Yes I get it im a fly a fly on the wall, im insignificant on this site no need to get your panties in a twist:done:

If the RR threads (which by majority prove to be bollocks) werent up in the first place then we wouldnt have to deal with them in the first place now would we. Its a trolls breeding ground.

[Ixion]

.. Id promise you would see more noob biker Dean...

Be still my beating heart.

[FROSTY]

Dean--Nope dude RR was created for a reason waay back when to stop the trolls from taking the serious biker topics off topic. Basicly a place for people to smack talk or argueably talk shit.
I would argue perhaps that R and R could possibly be Non viewable by non members of KB.
There was an argument awhile back that if ya don't own a bike then you shouldn't be a KB member. That can't work because theres a few of us temporarily between bikes.
I personally would support the notion that if a person doesn't intend to ever own a bike or ride on a bike then what the hell are they doing on a biker site.
Kinda like a homophobe going into a gay bar really. -You can do it but why the heck wouldya want to??

[Argyle]

I think KiwiBikers layout should look more like this

http://www.sporthoj.com/

[FROSTY]

WHAT THE HECK IS IT ABOUT THIS TIME OF YEAR??
People seem to get all nasty and throw their toys outa the cot??
Be they Mods or "normal" members

[NighthawkNZ]

I personally would support the notion that if a person doesn't intend to ever own a bike then what the hell are they doing on a biker site.

But my Ex never intends on getting a bike, but was a happy pillion and would have enjoyed this site if was around 10 years go... it would have been right up her alley... And she would have had a few good tips for those that are just pillions...

[FROSTY]

But my Ex never intends on getting a bike, but was a happy pillion and would have enjoyed this site if was around 10 years go... it would have been right up her alley... And she would have had a few good tips for those that are just pillions...
edited suitably thank you --Yep Pillion would agree with your post. She couldn't ride but was happy to go on the back of my bike and gopher at race meetings/trackdays

[Trudes]

It's the pre-Xmas fuckstick looming towards their rectums (I don't know, this thread is so full of shit I thought I'd add some more. Haven't people got better things to concern themselves with than arguing on the internet about where and what should be posted here? :rolleyes:)

[NighthawkNZ]

edited suitably thank you --Yep Pillion would agree with your post. She couldn't ride but was happy to go on the back of my bike and gopher at race meetings/trackdays

:done: and :done: then.... :blink: :laugh:

[Number One]

It's the pre-Xmas fuckstick looming towards their rectums (I don't know, this thread is so full of shit I thought I'd add some more. Haven't people got better things to concern themselves with than arguing on the internet about where and what should be posted here? :rolleyes:)

Once again the voice of reason...you said it best chick ;)

[Dean]

Dean--Nope dude RR was created for a reason waay back when to stop the trolls from taking the serious biker topics off topic. Basicly a place for people to smack talk or argueably talk shit.
I would argue perhaps that R and R could possibly be Non viewable by non members of KB.
There was an argument awhile back that if ya don't own a bike then you shouldn't be a KB member. That can't work because theres a few of us temporarily between bikes.
I personally would support the notion that if a person doesn't intend to ever own a bike or ride on a bike then what the hell are they doing on a biker site.
Kinda like a homophobe going into a gay bar really. -You can do it but why the heck wouldya want to??

I think we are misundrestanding the meaning between RR and pointless drivel, but you made some good points and I guess I agree with you on it. Thats fine to have non members to not view RR, and to cure the pillion problem the pillion could, assuming its a person of close relationship - use the same account as the biker who she/he pillions OR they make a special tab on the username like with mentors so people can see they are a non biker but pillion or getting one. This could be enabled when you are temporarily out of bikes at one time, or searching for a bike, or you dont have one but pillion.

[Korumba]

It's the pre-Xmas fuckstick looming towards their rectums (I don't know, this thread is so full of shit I thought I'd add some more. Haven't people got better things to concern themselves with than arguing on the internet about where and what should be posted here? :rolleyes:)

Fuck!!!...not to mention PMS.....

[James Deuce]

I think we are misundrestanding the meaning between RR and pointless drivel, but you made some good points and I guess I agree with you on it. Thats fine to have non members to not view RR, and to cure the pillion problem the pillion could, assuming its a person of close relationship - use the same account as the biker who she/he pillions OR they make a special tab on the username like with mentors so people can see they are a non biker but pillion or getting one. This could be enabled when you are temporarily out of bikes at one time, or searching for a bike, or you dont have one but pillion.
Are you still talking about banning people from KB?

Go start another biker site.

There are plenty of people who have joined this site with no bike and gone on to get a licence and a bike. What's the point of freezing prospective motorcyclists out of KB?

[Dean]

Are you still talking about banning people from KB?

Go start another biker site.

Am I still talking about it? = hmm doesent take a genuis to figure that one out now does it.

I wont but how about you make a biker site, you are more capable than I in all aspects.

Its not freezing, this little tab next to their username could go away when they receive a motorcycle via contacting a mod if it were to go down.

Good day sir.

[Ixion]

There are plenty of people who have joined this site with no bike and gone on to get a licence and a bike. What's the point of freezing prospective motorcyclists out of KB?

Exactly so.


It doesn't say Kiwimotorcyclist . It says KiwiBiker. A Biker's a Biker for life. makes no diference at all if he (or she) actually happens to posses a motorcycle at the time.

Biker is a state of mind, an insight into aspects of the universe denied to lesser beings, and subscription to a code of ideals and behaviour. Possession of some bits of plastic and metal has nothing to do with it.

[bogan]

To the original post, mods are mods, they dont have to consult you, the site is run how they see fit, not how you see fit. And big-ups to them, its overall a pretty damn good site :2thumbsup

And about the rant and rave stuff, its awesome, kiwis love to talk shit, bikers love to talk shit, without it more threads would prolly be taken off topic. PD is good too, for when the rant and rave threads get too out of hand!

And to those who wish to ban non-bikers, firstly i cant think of why you would want to, secondly how the hell would you accomplish it? If such people cause troubles on the site mods can remove them, if not whats the problem, chances are they will eventually get a bike, or have and intrest, I mean, they did join a biker sit for a reason.

[doc]

I look at KB as "User pays" It dont cost me anything so I have no say. :blink:

[Hawkeye]

...Thats fine to have non members to not view RR, and to cure the pillion problem the pillion could, assuming its a person of close relationship - use the same account as the biker who she/he pillions OR they make a special tab on the username like with mentors so people can see they are a non biker but pillion or getting one. This could be enabled when you are temporarily out of bikes at one time, or searching for a bike, or you dont have one but pillion.

Fark! Does that mean I have to actually go out and buy a bike or at least find someone who will let me pillion before I can visit this site.
James D, can I be your pillion???????

[Mental Trousers]

I hope people realize that the Site Admin (ahem) didn't have a bike for well over a year. Things happened (car getting run over by a bus, a wedding, etc) but I was bikeless for the best part of 18+ months. Up until 2 nights ago that is.

I'm hardly going to ban myself.

[James Deuce]

Fark! Does that mean I have to actually go out and buy a bike or at least find someone who will let me pillion before I can visit this site.
James D, can I be your pillion???????
Lol, alright then. Don't throw things at other bikers, okay?

[James Deuce]

I hope people realize that the Site Admin (ahem) didn't have a bike for well over a year. Things happened (car getting run over by a bus, a wedding, etc) but I was bikeless for the best part of 18+ months. Up until 2 nights ago that is.

I'm hardly going to ban myself.

Ooo, Ooo, what didya get?

[Mental Trousers]

Check it out ;)

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/blog.php?b=1100

[McJim]

Exactly so.


It doesn't say Kiwimotorcyclist . It says KiwiBiker. A Biker's a Biker for life. makes no diference at all if he (or she) actually happens to posses a motorcycle at the time.

Biker is a state of mind, an insight into aspects of the universe denied to lesser beings, and subscription to a code of ideals and behaviour. Possession of some bits of plastic and metal has nothing to do with it.

Should we start up a site called KiwiNana then? :rofl:

[Mully]

There was an argument awhile back that if ya don't own a bike then you shouldn't be a KB member. That can't work because theres a few of us temporarily between bikes.

Shit, last time I was at your place, you had half a dozen bikes floating about. Does that mean you'd get multiple memberships?
Or a set of Ginzu knives?
Shit, what about your bling? Which account would it go to?
Oh my God, I'm having an anxiety attack!!!!


Thats fine to have non members to not view RR, and to cure the pillion problem the pillion could, assuming its a person of close relationship - use the same account as the biker who she/he pillions OR they make a special tab on the username like with mentors so people can see they are a non biker but pillion or getting one. This could be enabled when you are temporarily out of bikes at one time, or searching for a bike, or you dont have one but pillion.

Umm, what?

So add a whole additional layer of complexity to a system which is already manned on an entirely voluntary basis?

What difference does it make whether someone has a bike or not? I didn't have a bike for the first 12 months or so of my membership here.

Miss Mully didn't have a bike when she joined - and ended up buying her bike of someone on here.

I use this place as a resource for stuff I simply don't know (someone here has generally had the same problem you have faced). I've made some good e-friends and met some people IRL who I would (and do) honestly refer to as friends.

R&R posts don't count towards your post count anyway (a move I strongly supported - the biggest shit talkers had squillions of posts and never said anything useful) so I don't understand what your point is.

If you don't like/approve of R&R, don't read it. It's like those people who complain about TV programs - if you don't like them, no-one's forcing you to watch them.

Honestly, Dean. I start reading a few posts from you which are quite sensible and then you start spouting again.

[98tls]

Shit, last time I was at your place, you had half a dozen bikes floating about. Does that mean you'd get multiple memberships?
Or a set of Ginzu knives?
Shit, what about your bling? Which account would it go to?
Oh my God, I'm having an anxiety attack!!!!



Umm, what?

So add a whole additional layer of complexity to a system which is already manned on an entirely voluntary basis?

What difference does it make whether someone has a bike or not? I didn't have a bike for the first 12 months or so of my membership here.

Miss Mully didn't have a bike when she joined - and ended up buying her bike of someone on here.

I use this place as a resource for stuff I simply don't know (someone here has generally had the same problem you have faced). I've made some good e-friends and met some people IRL who I would (and do) honestly refer to as friends.

R&R posts don't count towards your post count anyway (a move I strongly supported - the biggest shit talkers had squillions of posts and never said anything useful) so I don't understand what your point is.

If you don't like/approve of R&R, don't read it. It's like those people who complain about TV programs - if you don't like them, no-one's forcing you to watch them.

Honestly, Dean. I start reading a few posts from you which are quite sensible and then you start spouting again. :rofl::rofl::niceone:Quite correct,worst thing thats happened to motorcycling since i started is the fucking interweb,:blink:or maybe that should be the worst thing that happened to anything is the fucking interweb

[James Deuce]

Check it out ;)

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/blog.php?b=1100
Noice!

I'm sensing a revitalisation of F3!

[James Deuce]

Should we start up a site called KiwiNana then? :rofl:

Who let the peat monkey out?

[Number One]

It's like those people who complain about TV programs - if you don't like them, no-one's forcing you to watch them.

Actually it's a bit more tricky than that as (by his own admission) he is one of the contributing actors in the R&R show :lol: How confusing for the guy!

[James Deuce]

Actually it's a bit more tricky than that as (by his own admission) he is one of the contributing actors in the R&R show :lol: How confusing for the guy!
It's a peculiar Kiwi attitude.

"I'm addicted to something so everyone else has to miss out on it."

[Number One]

It's a peculiar Kiwi attitude.

"I'm addicted to something so everyone else has to miss out on it."
Yeah bugger that! Control thyself instead or STFU ;)

[Dean]

Honestly, Dean. I start reading a few posts from you which are quite sensible and then you start spouting again.

Yes, well you're signature confirms some of my non sensible posting, well actually I didn't expect you to signature it because I got another two people putting my posts as their signature. I'm not a dam celebrity take it off man it would be more valid coming from a well known kber who doesent normally make brain dead posts now and then.

[HDTboy]

This thread itself has gone way off the original topic.

About once a year, members will start to whinge about how the site is run.
Mods usually say tough, and a lot of good members get fed up, and leave KB to live happy real lives with the friends they met on KB.
Occasionally the mods listen, as evivenced in the Tauranga thread in babyb's link. Quasi was the mod at the time, and amongst others, Cajun (currently a senior mod) stuck up for leaving the thread as it was.
Mods will do what they want. Contributing members will either like it or lump it. The old guard will give way to the new, and life will go on.
September next year the new guard will start complaining about how KB has changed, and it used to be so much better back in the old days.

KB is a website. The website is not what has changed (other than when the mods move shit (damned mods)), other than a few threads, it's still all there in it's original glory. What has changed is the way you look at the website.

[McJim]

o anything is the fucking interweb

the fucking interweb....d'you mean internet porn? that has saved me hours of rumaging through disused railway sidings looking for old porn mags...:2thumbsup