Request advice - GN250 Vs Scorpio

[BikerDazz]

Hi there riders
The Mrs has given me the go ahead to switch to 2 wheels?
I'm looking at purchasing either a Yamaha Scorpio 225 or Suzuki GN250.
Can anyone out there advise on what might be the better bike?
Cheers

[Stickchick]

I absolutley LOVE my Scorpio. I have done 10,000ks on it and it's not even a year old. Crashes well too!

But then again what do I know I'm a girl:weep:

[Pedrostt500]

Go sit on each see what they feel like to you, are you thinking new or second hand?, see if you can take one of each for a test ride.

[BikerDazz]

Hah! Thanks for the feedback Stickchick.
I'm hoping to not check out out the crashing part though!

[BikerDazz]

Great advice, thanks.

[JimO]

for my money i would buy a vtr 250

[Dean]

Hi there riders
The Mrs has given me the go ahead to switch to 2 wheels?
I'm looking at purchasing either a Yamaha Scorpio 225 or Suzuki GN250.
Can anyone out there advise on what might be the better bike?
Cheers

I own a gn250 but dont ride it, there are more negatives than positives.

- Its got no good acceleration, you could ring it out and find yourself getting beaten by a car cruising to 50kph. Its top speed is realistically 120kph and it struggles at 100kph, max you can do 80kph up country hills.
- You will find a problem with the regulater rectifier which screws up every 2000k no matter how good you treat it.
- The tyres stock are a cheap chinese brand
- The fake chrome rusts so quickly I guarrentee you on all GN's there will be rust.
My advice would be to go for the scorpio, as many are saying they are great learner freindly bikes but have some get and go so you can cruise at 100kph, very cheap on petrol.

[Felix52]

I started riding on a Scorpio. They're very light and easy to handle, which is great when you're just starting out. You won't be breaking any land-speed records, but they'll hold open-road speed.

I'd recommend sitting on one and seeing how it feels before you get too set on any particular bike though.

Coincidentally, my old Scorpio is for sale, I should be putting it up in Online Trading this weekend.

[Henk]

Have ridden both, would get the scorpio of the two.

[BikerDazz]

Cheers all.
Having a look tomorrow but sounds like the Scorpio has the inside runnning.
Will give you all the secret biker signal (what is is?) when I see you on the roads.

[BMWST?]

will give you all the secret biker signal (what is is?) when i see you on the roads.


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[CookMySock]

Set your sights a little higher, bro. Honda VTR or Hyosung Comet. Not much more money, but far far nicer and more capable bikes to own and ride, and open-road capable as well.

Get your mrs her learners as well.

Steve

[JimO]

Set your sights a little higher, bro. Honda VTR or Hyosung Comet. Not much more money, but far far nicer and more capable bikes to own and ride, and open-road capable as well.

Get your mrs her learners as well.

Steve

for once i agree with DB except for the hyosung bit

[thehovel]

Have ridden both, would get the scorpio of the two.

What he said but check out the Volty and the GZ250 Both have GN250 motors . IMPO the Scorpio:love: is going to replase the GN as the best learner bike. Regards Richard

[davebullet]

If your Mrs. gave you permission.. chances are she'll want to have a go and want to ride.

This DB agrees with the other DB. A VTwin 250 will provide a little more pep. You might say - I don't need it, but believe me, any bike that tops out at 120kph will struggle in a decent head wind or up hill to maintain 100Kph.

We have a Honda VTR250 - great wee bike. Well made. When I upgraded, Mrs. B took over the VTR as her bike and still has it and loves it. Trying to convince her to go bigger now :shifty: 'cos then I might have to upgrade!

[BikerDazz]

Cheers bro, will have a look at those options.
As for the Mrs - she wouldn't like a helmet or wind messing with her hair, or not being able to wear pretty high heel shoes while riding!

[CookMySock]

As for the Mrs - she wouldn't like a helmet or wind messing with her hair, or not being able to wear pretty high heel shoes while riding!Hehe, you could introduce her to some of the lady riders, and then watch her eyes light up. And wait until she discovers black leather bike pants, mmmmmm.

Steve

[bezajel]

*does the scorpio dance* :wari:

[jrandom]

Scorpios are awesome.

VTR250s are good too, but a new one is twice the price of a Scorpio (almost), so for the same money as a brand new Yamaha under factory warranty you can have a several-year-old Honda that's been through several learner riders.

And has an extra 8 or so horsepower (whoopee) and is less fuel-efficient and costs more to service.

I'd have a Scorpio if I were a learner. In fact, I'd have a Scorpio right now (with heated grips and a nice big topbox) as an around-town bike if I had my ideal motorcycle garage, whereas a VTR250 is kind of like a miniature Real Bike that tries too hard. Nice for what it is, but... meh.

A Scorpio is something you'd actually keep for good reasons when you got a bigger bike, and that says a lot.

So, Gentle Learners, just fookin get one already so I can stop posting this same advice every time you ask the same question, mmkay?

:sunny:

[EJK]

Another vote goes to Scorpio.

Those Japanese made GNs (1980-1990s?) are know to be bulletproof, however modern GN250s (which are now made in China) are known as complete fucking shit crap.

[kiwifruit]

The 225 is a much better bike in my opinion, the main reason being it's riding position is neutral unlike the gn's.

[jrandom]

The 225 is a much better bike in my opinion, the main reason being it's riding position is neutral unlike the gn's.

Yeah, that too.

I'm comfier on a Scorpio than I am on my GSX1400, although the MX bars on my 1400 make it a bit more aggressive on the neck and shoulders. Stock bars on the 1400 give it about an identical riding position to the Scorpio.

But, still. The Scorpio's the second-comfiest bike I've ever ridden (the comfiest was a Ducati Multistrada).

[DJSin]

Another vote for the scorpio - I've loved mine as a learners bike .... I am looking forward to being able to ride my big girl bike (legally) soon though

[JimO]

for 3k you will get a decent vtr or a newish scorpio a year down the track the vtr will be worth the same coin, doubt a scorpio will

[bezajel]

A Scorpio is something you'd actually keep for good reasons when you got a bigger bike, and that says a lot.

Yep, I'll be at this point soon, and I'm just not sure I wanna part with it... :crybaby:

[Conquiztador]

Not sure if you are looking at new or s/h?

If a GN is where you end up, the Japanese ones (as stated) are the ones to go for. You recognise them as they have wire wheels. (Spokes). But you will very soon get bored on them.

I know there are those who recommend Hyosungs. But I would never get one. The quality is poor and the material used in bearings and other bits is soft. A new one maybe, but not a s/h!

Perhaps a little more dosh, but the V-twin 250's are good value. And keeps their value too when selling as you trade up.

Good Luck.

[davereid]

Have you considered a dual-sport bike ?

$3K will buy you a tidy DR200 or similar.

Great for commuting, and lots of fun on the weekend, playing off road or on the beach.

You will learn way more about controlling your bike in an afternoon on a slippery track, than in a year in a car park practise zone.

A dual purpose bike will struggle with the open road, but most riders end up moving quite quickly (as soon as licence allows !) to a larger bike, so this may not be an issue unless you plan on touring while you are a learner.

Dual purpose bikes are also much more err crash friendly. A fall doing a U-turn can do massive damage to a faired bike, but will simply break a clutch lever on your dual purpose bike.

Once you get your licence, you can trade it, and get just as good a return as you would on a road bike.

Or, keep it.

Put it in the shed and use it for commuting, saving your larger bike, and take it fishing on the weekend.

[Subike]

Every once and a while, motor cycle manufacturers bring out a bike that is just right for its class, the Bonnie in the 70's, the Suzuki Mavrick ,the Honda 4's , in its time the gn250, to name a few of the more commonly known ones. The Scorpio is one of those great bikes that has come onto the market and does exactly what it boasts it can do. Nothing more nothing less.
A very easy bike to ride, that can put long distances behind it if needed,
is happy as being a daily commutor,
to date has not shown any serious faults.
is not gender specific,
is respected at gatherings with out a smirk from riders of bigger bikes, ( who takes a GN250 to a ralley these days)
And as others have already stated, a bike you could keep in you garage for life.
A Scorpio all the way, the GN's have had their day, a better bike has taken its place

[Cheshire Cat]

don't get a gn250!:sick:

[FROSTY]

There are a truck load of other options out there but between the two bikes i wouldn't hesitate to suggest the scorpio over the GN
The only extra I can add to the advice above is REPLACE THE FRONT TYRE.
The factory Scorpio fronts are horrible things that for some inexplicable reason both offer little grip and seem to loose air over a relatively short space of time.

[BikerDazz]

Heaps of good advice peps, cheers all.
Gonna go with a scorpio as I've only 3k to play with.
May well get bored with it quickly and need to trade up, but we'll see.

[Cloggy]

Good choice.
I too thought I would trade the Scorpio on a bigger bike when the time came.
But I haven't. It is too nice of a wee bike to get rid off. I use it as my daily commuter and save the bigger bike for the weekends.
The Scorpio is just so cheap and reliable. Plus it is very zippy around town.

[robo555]

I have a Scorpio and it's great for around town and the odd blast in open road. Probably not ideal for going city-to-city, but I didn't intend to do much of that.

A 12L tank (less than $20) easily does 300km+, yet to need to use reserve.

Blue with cast wheels, best combination IMO.