It didn't happen unless you have a photo.

[Hard Nut]

Lead a 600 k ride today out East of Melbourne that was full of twisties, high speed sweepers, tight flip flops etc etc.

What worries me now is people trying to keep up.......way beyond there capabilities. I've been riding for 37 years now (and i'm very tied now lol) 8 years road race training (Circuit Racing) the rest on public roads.

A good friend of mine (George) binned his bike today on the Reefton Spur, high speed binning off over the edge, bike crashed into a tree flipped him off into another tree.

I came running back thinking the worst after hearing the crunch, I thought he was dead.

When I had seen how he was wrapped around a tree on the ground and there were sign's of movement, I'm thinking he's ok......which he was to a point.

Points of interest :- (1) Where we ride we have no phone reception.
(2)George runs his Yamaha without insurance.
(3)This bike killed his brother!..........George rebuilt the bike and now the thing is trying to kill him

[mattsdakar]

Dope, not sounding good, waiting to hear how he is....

[YellowDog]

Hope the dude's Ok. The tone of your header tells me thathe is Ok and something extraordinary happened.

[grusomhat]

You don't sound like a very good leader.

Hope the guy is ok though.

[Zuki lover]

Glad he's alive, but how bad is he after that off

[scumdog]

You don't sound like a very good leader.



Yeah, bugger any 'personal responsibility' eh!:rolleyes:

[grusomhat]

Yeah, bugger any 'personal responsibility' eh!:rolleyes:

A lot of people don't have personal responsibility. OP said that he knew people were pushing themselves to far so It's at that stage that a good leader does something to remedy it.

[Hiflyer]

I dont get the point of this thread....

[fridayflash]

You don't sound like a very good leader.

Hope the guy is ok though.

didint wrap his mate in enough cotton wool?:shutup:

[grusomhat]

didint wrap his mate in enough cotton wool?:shutup:

landing would have been softer.

[fridayflash]

landing would have been softer.

hehe too true, bit wet in the bay today eh!

[Maki]

What worries me now is people trying to keep up.......way beyond there capabilities. I've been riding for 37 years now (and i'm very tied now lol) 8 years road race training (Circuit Racing) the rest on public roads.



Sounds like the typical KB group ride recipe for disaster...

[Maki]

You don't sound like a very good leader.

Hope the guy is ok though.

Fuck "the leader". YOU are number one out there and YOU are the one to look out for number one. If "the leader" goes faster than you should, then let him go!

If anyone thinks "the leader" is going to "take responsibility" and mend your broken limbs and bike after you crash, then I got news for you. He aint.

[BASS-TREBLE]

There's a big difference between leader and a safety instructor mate.

[Hard Nut]

Dope, not sounding good, waiting to hear how he is....

He was taken to Hospital and lucky for him, no breaks, just alot of tissue damage to his hips and legs above the knee caps.

Thing is he's pushing 50 years of age and to see him trying to walk was painful to watch, so his recovery will be slower and all he could think of was his bike.........

Nuts

[Hard Nut]

Hope the dude's Ok. The tone of your header tells me that he is Ok and something extraordinary happened.

Hey YellowDog, The thing about this is George said his mother put a "Curse" on this bike, and this is his third off, this one being the biggest.

You would think he would learn from his mistakes and move on, but .......no.

Nuts

[marty]

I dont get the point of this thread....


There needs to be a point to ANY threads on KB?

[Hard Nut]

You don't sound like a very good leader.

Hope the guy is ok though.

Grusomhat that maybe the case, I think I made a better (Tail End Charlie (TEC)) then Leader......LOL

Conditions on the ride were ideal and the whole area is marked at 100KPH with advisory signs for all the corners & curves.....not once did I speed, but some of the corners & curves are marked at 30 KPH:Oops:.............you can guess the rest

[Mekk]

There's something kind of surreal about those photos.

[carver]

god i hate that sceene, bike over a bank with people standing around...

[R6_kid]

"This bike killed his brother!..........George rebuilt the bike and now the thing is trying to kill him"

Sounds like his genes aren't supposed to be carried on to the next generation :bash:

[Hard Nut]

Fuck "the leader". YOU are number one out there and YOU are the one to look out for number one. If "the leader" goes faster than you should, then let him go!

If anyone thinks "the leader" is going to "take responsibility" and mend your broken limbs and bike after you crash, then I got news for you. He aint.

Maki you do have to look out for yourself, this is true........this whole area is bad for bike crashes and this guy in particular will not lead a ride, but is happy to run a close second, now the other problem is we cant get ride leaders.

So I step up to lead a ride, and I can ride.....I will admit that LOL, now as close as he was to the back of my bike, I'm thinking if something goes wrong he will take me out, he said to me after the crash "I took my eye's off the road and looked in the mirror".........BIG MISTAKE to do that at that point in time dont ya think.

He locked the front end up, laid it on its side then as it went over the edge it stood up again (really steep)

Nuts

[Maki]

Maki you do have to look out for yourself, this is true........this whole area is bad for bike crashes and this guy in particular will not lead a ride, but is happy to run a close second, now the other problem is we cant get ride leaders.

So I step up to lead a ride, and I can ride.....I will admit that LOL, now as close as he was to the back of my bike, I'm thinking if something goes wrong he will take me out, he said to me after the crash "I took my eye's off the road and looked in the mirror".........BIG MISTAKE to do that at that point in time dont ya think.

He locked the front end up, laid it on its side then as it went over the edge it stood up again (really steep)

Nuts

The point of this thread must be the valuable lessons it contains.

1. Ride within your capabilities, regardless of what other people in the group ride happen to be doing.

2. Do not ride too close to other riders in a group ride. You run the risk of taking them out should something unexpected happen. You will also be distracted by the fact that you have to constantly keep close tabs on were the others are and this kind of distraction is sometimes bad for your health.

You might also consider this. If you are the designated leader of a ride and find that someone is following you too closely you may want to just let them pass and discuss things with them at the next stop...

There is some very good information about group rides on this site. I suggest people who go on such rides read it.

[ital916]

Lead a 600 k ride today out East of Melbourne that was full of twisties, high speed sweepers, tight flip flops etc etc.

What worries me now is people trying to keep up.......way beyond there capabilities. I've been riding for 37 years now (and i'm very tied now lol) 8 years road race training (Circuit Racing) the rest on public roads.

A good friend of mine (George) binned his bike today on the Reefton Spur, high speed binning off over the edge, bike crashed into a tree flipped him off into another tree.

I came running back thinking the worst after hearing the crunch, I thought he was dead.

When I had seen how he was wrapped around a tree on the ground and there were sign's of movement, I'm thinking he's ok......which he was to a point.

Points of interest :- (1) Where we ride we have no phone reception.
(2)George runs his Yamaha without insurance.
(3)This bike killed his brother!..........George rebuilt the bike and now the thing is trying to kill him

Bikes dont kill riders, the riders kill themselves (or others kill the rider).

I feel sorry for bikes which get blamed for stuff. Must be a hard life being a bike. Going out in all kinds of weather, doing everything that you are told to then getting blamed when it all goes pear shaped.

I'm glad he is ok.

[Hard Nut]

I am only using the term losely, that the bike is a "Killer" because of the "Curse" that has been placed on it....(If you believe in that sort of thing)

And as for the Title of this Thread that came to mind because of a friend of mine...........cause she says "IT didn't happen if you don't have photos"

Nuts

[Hard Nut]

Now on the 10/10/09 I'm leading another ride to Jamieson/ Victoria Aus with a stay over Saturday night.

Two things going against me already and that is the seven day forecast is for rain and I will be followed by a few Learners :gob:

Will need to be on my best behavior.......hey:sweatdrop

Nuts

[grusomhat]

Grusomhat that maybe the case, I think I made a better (Tail End Charlie (TEC)) then Leader......LOL

Conditions on the ride were ideal and the whole area is marked at 100KPH with advisory signs for all the corners & curves.....not once did I speed, but some of the corners & curves are marked at 30 KPH:Oops:.............you can guess the rest

I see, and I apologies for my earlier statement. I do stand behind the idea that if someone is leading a ride and others are pushing to keep up then the leader needs to be proactive and take action. People do also need to take personal responsibility for their own ride which is everyone else has been saying.

Anyway hope your mate is ok and good luck with Saturday.

[Hard Nut]

I have tried to cover all the issues in the rider briefing, but you are going to get at least one who is going to stuff it up for everyone else, and with George on different rides (not as technical) I indicate so he can blast off and over take me, because he likes to ride fast and its his choice.

Cheers Bruce

[Hard Nut]

Dont know what georgie boy is going to do now without his beloved Yamaha, someone I know offered him a 250 cruiser............what kind of a slap on the face is that LOL.

Nuts

[Hard Nut]

I did get to Jamieson very late in the day and back to Port Melb ( Rose Tavern) by 9.00 pm..............few drinks and pizza to finish the day off.

Nuts

[The Pastor]

completely the bikes fault

[Hard Nut]

The thing thats really pissing me off about leading a ride.........you get ssssssssooooooooo many people saying...... dont want to get my bike dirty, is there any gravel, is it going to be raining, is it going to be hot, where's the nearest service station, can i bring my blanket, ok if I can meet you there, how about we go to Sydney first,........................I tell you what, if I get asked anymore Shit Head questions, I'm going to come around to your place and shove a stick in your eye:whistle::2thumbsup

Nuts

[marty]

maybe you should come over and do a coro loop to to get rid of those turkey strips

[mynameis]

maybe you should come over and do a coro loop to to get rid of those turkey strips

Must be my eyes I can't see any.

[ital916]

The thing thats really pissing me off about leading a ride.........you get ssssssssooooooooo many people saying...... dont want to get my bike dirty, is there any gravel, is it going to be raining, is it going to be hot, where's the nearest service station, can i bring my blanket, ok if I can meet you there, how about we go to Sydney first,........................I tell you what, if I get asked anymore Shit Head questions, I'm going to come around to your place and shove a stick in your eye:whistle::2thumbsup

Nuts

then dont lead any rides. If you're going to lead, be prepared to answer the stupid questions.

[Hard Nut]

Maybe I can give that job of answering the stupid questions to my Co Rider/Pillion.........she would LOVE to do that. LOL

Cheers Nuts

[Katman]

What the fuck is this?

Retards-r-us?

[ital916]

What the fuck is this?

Retards-r-us?

This is KIWWWWIIIIIIBIIIIKEEEERRRRRR!

[T.W.R]

So the Reefton spur/Black spur loop claimed another victim? maybe you should have taken heed of the signs along certain stretches of that road dedicated to motorcyclists :niceone:

least he's still in one bit

[duckonin]

The thing thats really pissing me off about leading a ride.........you get ssssssssooooooooo many people saying...... dont want to get my bike dirty, is there any gravel, is it going to be raining, is it going to be hot, where's the nearest service station, can i bring my blanket, ok if I can meet you there, how about we go to Sydney first,........................I tell you what, if I get asked anymore Shit Head questions, I'm going to come around to your place and shove a stick in your eye:whistle::2thumbsup

Nuts

Maybe you should ride by yourself, by the sounds of it you would at least enjoy doing that...:Playnice:

[dipshit]

Maybe you should ride by yourself, by the sounds of it you would at least enjoy doing that...

That's what I was thinking. Why do motorcyclists need to go on gay rides with others all the time..??? Just go for a f&@#ing ride!

[Katman]

That's what I was thinking. Why do motorcyclists need to go on gay rides with others all the time..??? Just go for a f&@#ing ride!

Retards find safety in numbers.

[ital916]

Retards find safety in numbers.

Dont forget they also find safety on the internet.

[carver]

That's what I was thinking. Why do motorcyclists need to go on gay rides with others all the time..??? Just go for a f&@#ing ride!

I like meeting other gay bikers

[mynameis]

What the fuck is this?

Retards-r-us?


Retards find safety in numbers.

Awww come on batman, jush a lil thread to share stuff. Slow night eh.


I like meeting other gay bikers

Hi5 sexy time.

[Hard Nut]

Jamieson revisited over the weekend , this time one of the girls crashed twice, both low speed and in gravel.........live and learn.

She broke a rib and a shit load of bruising, and it was done on a brand new bike...............thing is , she wouldn't let me take a photo of the bike or the injuries, funny thing ..........it did happen.

Cheers Nuts

[MSTRS]

I dont get the point of this thread....

Oh yes...
It's a warning about being called George, and riding a blue ThunderAce (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=70125&d=1189287844).
:lol:

[Meanie]

Oh yes...
It's a warning about being called George, and riding a blue ThunderAce (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=70125&d=1189287844).
:lol:

Crap, thats not good

[Hard Nut]

Three and a half months later still no george, but he is still getting around with the help of two crutches.

He asked me the other day to hunt down a full set of fairings, so me thinking he's not far off getting back on that machine........god help him.

Cheers Nuts

[bent12]

Speedy recovery to George, close call and lessons learnt, I still find a challenge riding to my capability amongst my trusted friends dependent on how I feel on the day

[Hard Nut]

Hi Everyone
Further to my thoughts about George and his bike, well.......................He's done it again!!!!!

Six months later he is back on his rebuilt Yamaha, that,s how long it took him to get over his last crash................Today he was following me back from the Broadford Raceway, not far down the road amongst the twisties he,s gone to hard coming out of a hair pin and ran clean into a rock wall completely destroying his bike and much to my dismay hurt himself big time........

You guy,s must have some thoughts on this subject...........I'm at a loss

[trailblazer]

keep that man off that bike and don't let him rebuild it again.

[hayd3n]

why not make him do the land speed record that way he wont run outa road or hit a corner/rock/dingo/roo/o ther biker
hes doin well surviving though id give him that

[marty]

Simple. Refuse to ride with him ever again. The guy is obviously an idiot, and it's only a matter of time before he kills himself- or worse - someone else, and you'll be there picking up the pieces.

[DMNTD]

Simple. Refuse to ride with him ever again. The guy is obviously an idiot, and it's only a matter of time before he kills himself- or worse - someone else, and you'll be there picking up the pieces.

100% agreed....sure accidents can happen but this guy obviously is seeking them out

[AD345]

Muppet is as muppet does

[Katman]

You guy,s must have some thoughts on this subject...........I'm at a loss

Tell him to do the job properly next time.

[AuzBikieGirl]

well what not many ppl know is apparantly George's brother died whilst ridiing this bike , another rider error caused ( apparently ) George's brothers accident ...... George decided to rebuild the bike as a tribute to his Bro ... he has had 4 off's on it now .. each off getting worse then the previous one .. I call the Bike Christine ( sorta like the car in the movie .. it's possessed ) George just ignores it .. hmmmmm maybe he will believe me now !!
I was behind him on this off ..I felt bad cause as a novice rider I couldn't find a safe place to pull up cause it was a steep downhill stretch of road with very little cut out to pull over on , I knew he was sorta ok as he was up as I approached the incident ... I headed down the hill and stopped where it was safe too .. knowing that HN would eventually realize we were not coming and turn around .. Luckily a few car drivers stopped and told me what was going on up the hill , I asked one to keep a look out for HN ( gave details of bike etc ) .. only thing that reallyyyyyyyyyyyy pissed me off was a fellow rider ( one we all knew) rode past both myself and HN.. didnt acknowledge either of us , knowing full well someone had come off at the top of the HIll ... so much for riders looking after one another !!

[Hard Nut]

It is now over 24 Hrs later and no phone call......from him or me, and as bad as this sounds, there is a good reason but not only that the situation on the day was at the least an extremely difficult one, another rider came past me while I was waiting for the other two bikes to come down the hill (Which didn't happen) I was told by a passer by that a guy has crashed further back up the hill ........the thing was the rider who came passed was a friend of mine and he didn't indicate that there was a problem, but he had ridden right past the scene.

I am yet to find out what my friend was thinking ffs

[marty]

he was probably thinking - 'fucked if i'm picking up after george again'

[nodrog]

"....... watch out for that tree"

[sinfull]

"....... watch out for that tree"
It's a jungle out there !!!!

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[one fast tl1ooo]

Sounds like to me. yamaha's do not go around twisties very well. maybe tell him to try a suzuki next time...