Key needs to keep his mouth shut

[Skyryder]

On SAS operational affairs

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10601491

Skyryder

[p.dath]

No comment at all would be the most appropriate for our secret force. Next thing they'll have their own web site and blog to help everyone track what they are doing.

[Blackshear]

Way to go, tabloids - JUST LET EVERYONE KNOW WHAT HE SAID ABOUT OUR 'SPECIAL' FORCES.

Sometimes, sometimes :oi-grr:

[Hitcher]

The Norwegians blew the gaff on the SAS posting before John Key did.

[ManDownUnder]

The Norwegians blew the gaff on the SAS posting before John Key did.

Oh shush - he doesn't have anything to get upset about now...

[325rocket]

The Norwegians blew the gaff on the SAS posting before John Key did.

dont let the truth get in the way of a good moan

[Mully]

Attention:
DO NOT FEED THE TROLL

[Skyryder]

The Norwegians blew the gaff on the SAS posting before John Key did.

So that makes it ok for Key to tell the world who the SAS are with and who they are not with.

Key's a total fuckwit. No idea how to conduct himself as a statesman, mind you he's got no idea as a comedian either but what the hell. Now he is bleating about operation matters as a Prime Minister.:bash:

Skyryder

[riffer]

OFFS.

If the SAS get sent to Kabul it will be five minutes before the world knows they're there.

Get real dude.

[Skyryder]

OFFS.

If the SAS get sent to Kabul it will be five minutes before the world knows they're there.

Get real dude.

Maybe............... but not who they are going to be deployed with, that is unless our Prime Minister decides to give out operational matters to the Press. Big big difference.

And get this, Keith Lock is congratulating key for not being so secret. That in itself should send out alarm bells.

Skyryder

[Swoop]

Someone want's to find the squadron? Just follow the drunken singing.


Poor quality troll Skyrider. The Norgies blew the whistle and do not forget what your beloved did... mentioned in the article you posted the link to "(EX)Prime Minister Helen Clark was forced to confirm the SAS was in Afghanistan in 2002 after the White House website revealed their presence".

[McJim]

Maybe............... but not who they are going to be deployed with, that is unless our Prime Minister decides to give out operational matters to the Press. Big big difference.

Skyryder

And you know that this statement is not misinformation because?

Ah yes - you didn't think did you?

[ManDownUnder]

Attention:
DO NOT FEED THE TROLL

Why not? Can I feed him till he pukes?

[NighthawkNZ]

On SAS operational affairs

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10601491

Skyryder

That info was released by the Norwegian Command our troops are replacing about hmmm 5 or 6 days ago... he isn't saying anything new

[ManDownUnder]

"(EX)Prime Minister Helen Clark was forced to confirm the SAS was in Afghanistan in 2002 after the White House website revealed their presence".

Was that what she was doing from the back of the limo speeding to the rugby?

[Swoop]

Was that what she was doing from the back of the limo speeding to the rugby?
"She" wasn't speeding to the rugby. It was an urgent dash to The Tile Centre to pick up supplies before they closed. Her partner in crime, Phillip Field, had run out and needed to keep his workers busy.

[Mully]

Why not? Can I feed him till he pukes?

Only if you feed him until he explodes

"Wonk wonk wonk. Pissmoan. Wahhhh. Kaboom!!"

[ManDownUnder]

"She" wasn't speeding to the rugby.

True - she was running the country at the time and she had her eyes closed...

... no wait ... that sounds really bad...

[Skyryder]

And you know that this statement is not misinformation because?

Ah yes - you didn't think did you?

Yes I did but rejected this for the following reasons.

The Green Party says the Government's decision to review its policy of not disclosing the location of SAS troops is a victory for common sense.

A fortnight ago Norwegian defence chief Sverre Diesen told a newspaper that New Zealand's SAS troops would be taking over from Norwegian special forces in Afghanistan's capital, Kabul.

The New Zealand Government has a policy of not disclosing where SAS troops are serving.

In the light of the Norwegian disclosure, Prime Minister John Key has agreed to review the policy with defence personnel.

Green MP Keith Locke says that changing the policy would bring New Zealand into line with other countries like Norway and Australia, and that only operational matters, such as the details of military operations, should be kept secret.

Mr Key says his government simply adopted that policy, but he admits it is ridiculous if other countries are prepared to reveal the location of New Zealand troops.

New Zealand recently sent 71 members of the SAS to Afghanistan. It is the SAS's fourth deployment there.




It's the para in bold that suggest's to me there is no deception.


If you are going to give the enemy false information that information is to be as breif as possible. In short the more you give and the more complicated your delivery process is the greater the chance that you will make a mistake and enemy will perceive this.

Misinformation is only telling lies and the more lies you tell not to mention the more of those that tell the same lie the chances that a mistake will occur.


But I will say ..............you may well be right. I have no way of knowing one way or the other as indeed you yourself have no way of knowing either.

Key may be on top of the popularity stakes still, but let's not forget he's a newbee at this sort of game and he appears to be the man who likes the limelight of being PM. And another thing confirmation was not necessary from Key. In fact it would have been better if he had said nothing.

Skyryder

[peasea]

Misinformation is only telling lies and the more lies you tell not to mention the more of those that tell the same lie the chances that a mistake will occur.


Is it just me or does that sentence have a word or two missing?

Key should know when to shut up. If the boffins in another country say too much it really doesn't mean the gaffe should be compounded. Some things need to be kept secret to protect those involved, especailly on the front line.

[SS90]

Is it just me or does that sentence have a word or two missing?

Key should know when to shut up. If the boffins in another country say too much it really doesn't mean the gaffe should be compounded. Some things need to be kept secret to protect those involved, especailly on the front line.

Hmmm, yea, I kind of agree there.

It's not so much what he said, it is the fact that he said ANYTHING that is the problem.

As small as NZ is, as small as our military is, we have to conduct out military operations with some level of secrecy.......

They are putting their lives on the line you know, one Kiwi did get awarded the victoria cross in 2007!

[peasea]

They are putting their lives on the line

That's the whole deal and even other countries who we are not in conflict with should respect that also.

[wbks]

Just count down the days until we get our own home grown extremist blowing something up...

[Hitcher]

Just count down the days until we get our own home grown extremist blowing something up...

I gave up counting down some years ago...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_New_Zealand

[wbks]

I gave up counting down some years ago...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_New_ZealandI knew of those, I was meaning more cliche "allah hu akbar***BOOOM***" kind of thing...

[Patrick]

I knew of those, I was meaning more cliche "allah hu akbar***BOOOM***" kind of thing...

As in getting on buses, trains etc, integrating with the population type of training thing?

[wbks]

As in getting on buses, trains etc, integrating with the population type of training thing?Like depressed/bullied middle class kid discovers purpose in Islam after return trip to somewhere in central Asia and steps into the sky tower with a suspiciously heavy backback

[tri boy]

Kiwi boy tried that at the then "Super duper coppa computer" in W(h)anganui.
Dumb arse blew himself up:lol:
SAS is secret, and Key may have slipped up, but nothing compared with that troll Clarke did over several years of nanny state misery, and bad photo's we had to endure.
I'm sure the SAS bosses will mention it to him if need be.

[piston broke]

lol.
as if the opposing side didn't already know where our fellow kiwi's are anyway,way before the nork's and key said anything.
btw its only 71 odd peeps involved,it's not like we have many thousands of men there,,i reckon we are a next to nout target.

[wbks]

lol.
as if the opposing side didn't already know where our fellow kiwi's are anyway,way before the nork's and key said anything.
btw its only 71 odd peeps involved,it's not like we have many thousands of men there,,i reckon we are a next to nout target.Firstly, anyone over there against the Taliban is a target. The fact that NZ is a big vagina with no security means any wanabe terrorist would find it appealing to fuck. Secondly, they don't walk around with name tags while in NZDF uniform, why would anyone know who they are besides themselves and those that need to? For all anyone else knows, they're just another western force there kicking ass... Or training these kind of people: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc8w0IX4UQc