A little help for a newbie

[gdh]

hi,
i am a newbie on the bike, i came from germany, and work in canterbury.
i want to explore whole NZ, but the law is very different to germany.

i can use my german driver license, if i use a bike until 34 hp

i am interested in a bmw k 100 rs but this bike has 90 hp need to reduce the power.

does anybody know a method to do this?

i dont know the english word for this reducion.

how much is the wof fee and the registration for this bike? or where can i find informations about that?

can i import a german power reduce for this bike, and get the wof?
i belive, i can not get it here.

is it posible?


a big thanks for usable answers

maik

[Mom]

i dont know the english word for this reducion.


But you know the English word "newbie"?

Nice try dude!

[grusomhat]

Hmm, so you have been told by the New Zealand Land Transport that conditions of your German license apply here?

I would have thought that if you are on a conditional license in Germany then you would be put on a Restricted license here. That would mean you would be stuck on a 250. You might be lucky though and be allowed a straight swap to a full.

[ital916]

hi,
i am a newbie on the bike, i came from germany, and work in canterbury.
i want to explore whole NZ, but the law is very different to germany.

i can use my german driver license, if i use a bike until 34 hp

i am interested in a bmw k 100 rs but this bike has 90 hp need to reduce the power.

does anybody know a method to do this?

i dont know the english word for this reducion.

how much is the wof fee and the registration for this bike? or where can i find informations about that?

can i import a german power reduce for this bike, and get the wof?
i belive, i can not get it here.

is it posible?


a big thanks for usable answers

maik

why a k100rs....and why try and reduce the power of a k100rs...youll end up with an underpower lump, there is a reason it has 90 hp. Just get a 250cc bike.

[MyGSXF]

check through here.. :2thumbsup

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/overseasdrivers/

[gdh]

i can drive with my german license,if i have a transaltion into english.


whya k100rs?
i can get it cheaper than in germany, after my nz trip,i want to import into germany.

another reason is, i need a bike for longer trips. i want to drive until 4-6 hrs on the biké, soi need a good bike. it must be easy to maintained.
it has to work.

i have a big backpack, witch must be with me.

a 250 dirt bike has not enogh space to storeage it.
the exhoust is very near the seat at the back. i am frigtened that the backpack will burn up.

and i have a maximum of 4000$


maybe u know a better bike bike for me with this conditions, but i cant find a better one in canterbrury:(

restrictor [tech.] die Drossel

is that the correct word for a horse power reduction?

[Hitcher]

New Zealand law cares nothing about horsepower. It cares about capacity. Even if you succeed in reducing the HP of your BMW by two thirds, you still won't be able to ride it.

Buy a 250.

[Ixion]

K100 (or any bike actually) reduced from 100 hp to 34 will be unusable unless you change the gearing. Which you can't on the K100, cos it's shaft drive.

You'll get a WoF OK, they won't care.

Only area of concern would be if your licence said "Not more than 34 hp". Even then , how's a cop going to know?

[Mystic13]

Post up on www.bmwor.org.nz, firstly they're BMW boys, secondly they know a bit about this stuff, thirdly some of them speak German.

While bikers are generally helpful you'll find BMW support there as well. A source of information if anything goes wrong with the bike.

If you can spend $4,000 and you plan to take the bike back why not see what you can borrow and get a better newer BMW. Right now on trademe there are some cheap buys and if you're transporting back to Germany anyway you can take a much newer bike back home and may end up with a small loan / family loan to pay off.

trademe BMW here...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/CategoryAttributeSearchResults.aspx?search=1&mcat=0001-0026-1255-&sidebar=1&39=&40=BMW&153=&9=0&9=0&24=0&24=0&51=0&51=0

[YellowDog]

hi,
i am a newbie on the bike, i came from germany, and work in canterbury.
i want to explore whole NZ, but the law is very different to germany.

i can use my german driver license, if i use a bike until 34 hp

i am interested in a bmw k 100 rs but this bike has 90 hp need to reduce the power.

does anybody know a method to do this?

i dont know the english word for this reducion.

how much is the wof fee and the registration for this bike? or where can i find informations about that?

can i import a german power reduce for this bike, and get the wof?
i belive, i can not get it here.

is it posible?


a big thanks for usable answers

maik
This is a really easy problem:

If you have a German Full licence, you can ride in NZ for one year before having to get an NZ one.

If you don't, you can't!

No licence = no bike.

AND forget about reducing the power. Put a Turbo on it instead!

It still makes no difference to the fact of: No licence = no bike.

Enjoy your 250cc bike :)
Get a Turbo
Get a perrrm

[jono035]

Yeah, I thought licenses only transferred if they were full... I don't think you can drive in the UK on a learners/restricted, even if you're within the NZ-imposed conditions...

[The Pastor]

rember in NZ it is customary to have a few beers (stiens) before your ride each morning.

[jono035]

rember in NZ it is customary to have a few beers (stiens) before your ride each morning.

And the cops give out award certificates for the best wheelies as you're going past them too!

[gdh]

i know, that nobody cares the horsepower, me too :D

but, an example, if i drive on a road, a car driver dont see me, slashed me down, and my bike hit a children.

the ensurance will not cover the accident, because, i drive a bike,for wich i has no driver license.

i willpay my hole life....

so i need a bike with a maximum of 34 hp the ccm never minds.

if i drive in nz withmy german driver license, the german law is vaild!!!

the power reduce is onlyfor the ensurance.:cool:



thanks for the great links:cool:

[gdh]

hi,
i have found another bike, it is a yamaha tt 350
i have checked, i can drive this bike with my german licens.
but what about the buying papers.


in germany u need 2 papers, a certification, about the bike, wich u guaranted that u are the owner and one paper u have everytime with you. to show the police, wich bike u are riding.

how it is in nz?
wich papers i need? wich i have to get from the seller? and wich i have to carry with me?

[magicmonkey]

Yeah, I thought licenses only transferred if they were full... I don't think you can drive in the UK on a learners/restricted, even if you're within the NZ-imposed conditions...

They're quite happy to transfer a UK provisional to an NZ learners and it is legal to use the UK provisional over here, NZ learners rules apply but after 1 year you have to get an NZ license in one form or another...

[Ixion]

hi,
i have found another bike, it is a yamaha tt 350
i have checked, i can drive this bike with my german licens.
but what about the buying papers.


in germany u need 2 papers, a certification, about the bike, wich u guaranted that u are the owner and one paper u have everytime with you. to show the police, wich bike u are riding.

how it is in nz?
wich papers i need? wich i have to get from the seller? and wich i have to carry with me?

Papers. We do not like papers here. But some are inescapable.

When you buy the bike, you must fill in a form and take it (with some ID) to the post office. You can get the form at the Post Office. It has a number but I cannot remember it, just tell them you have bought a motorcycle and need to change the ownership. It costs $9.

Apart from your drivers licence there are no papers you need to carry with you when riding (the drivers licence is still a sore point. Tyranny!). EDIT: You do not need any papers from the seller, but it is a good idea to buy a report from http://www.carjam.co.nz, about $25 I think. That will show if there is any money owing on it or anything like that.

Oh be aware that the bike should be registered (that means the taxes are paid) and have a Warrant of Fitness (that means it has been tested for safety). There should be a small square sticker on the bike (the warrant of fitness), check the expiry date; and a longer oblong sticker (the registration) , check that date also.

The Warrant of fitness (= "WoF") in my picture expired in August 2006 (shown by the big number and the little hole) .
And the registration in the other pciture expired 14/03/2005. Not good buys

Don't buy if it has them not.

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if i drive in nz withmy german driver license, the german law is vaild!!!



WRONG. GERMAN LAW IS IN GERMANY. NZ LAW IS IN New Zealand !!!


If you do not have a german Full licence, then you need to obtain a NZ learner licence and buy a 250cc in order to ride in the country. Thats it.

[davereid]

This thread is full of bad and incorrect advice.

You can drive in New Zealand on your German Licence for 1 year, and the conditions that apply in German law apply to your licence as it is a german licence.

Thats why Germans with a car licence can driver camper vans with a GVM of greater than 4500kg, when a New Zealand Licence holder can not.

So you must ride a sub 34 H.P. motorcycle, and its engine capacity is not relevant.

As you comment, an officially approved translation of your licence into english or maori must be carried.

Ixions advice on purchasing and paperwork, is (as usual) correct in all regards.

In New Zealand, your proof of ownership is a receipt issued by the seller for the purchase of the motorcycle. The record of registration held by NZTA merely describes the person liable for fines.

[gdh]

a very big thanks to the post over me and ixion.
i hope, i dont get any troubles or engine problems during my south island trip, and if i get some, i know, where i have to ask :)

if we meet us, i spend a beer : -D

[Beemer]

...if we meet us, i spend a beer : -D

I sincerely hope that's NOTHING like spending a penny...

[ukusa]

a very big thanks to the post over me and ixion.
i hope, i dont get any troubles or engine problems during my south island trip, and if i get some, i know, where i have to ask :)

if we meet us, i spend a beer : -D

In NZ it is customary to buy at least 3 jugs of beer for the anyone that helps you :yes: