Bus driver pay rises...yeah right!

[chef]

saw in auckland they got locked out HAHA...becuase they are asking for $14 - $16 and hour, are they mental they deserve bear minimum they cut people off speed in tight small streets dont stop at bus stops, drive like mentaly retarded retards, all 50 years old over weight or islanders, well thats how they roll in wellington, i think there dreaming about a pay rise, i work my ass off for $14 an hour id love to sit on my ass all day and drive a bus around but i fail all the catorgories above.

[Mom]

mentaly retarded retards

ok

[Mekk]

Mentally retarded retards are the worst kind of retards.

[peasea]

BUT!

Bus drivers are our friends, they reduce greenhouse gasses by making people brake harder, thereby getting off the gas and slowing down. Don't you see???

[peasea]

Mentally retarded retards are the worst kind of retards.

Forward thinking retards are the future that lurks behind.

[chef]

Forward thinking retards are the future that lurks behind.

there a rear type of species those ones

[peasea]

there a rear type of species those ones

Oh a 'rear' type, you cunny funt, you.

Lick me some windows......

Weather's looking a bit rubbish for the next few days, might spark the old kb up, you never know.......

I have an idea, let's pick on Patrick. He's a knob and deserves a good wind-up. Whaddaya say?

[SARGE]

saw in auckland they got locked out HAHA...becuase they are asking for $14 - $16 and hour, are they mental they deserve bear minimum they cut people off speed in tight small streets dont stop at bus stops, drive like mentaly retarded retards, all 50 years old over weight or islanders, well thats how they roll in wellington, i think there dreaming about a pay rise, i work my ass off for $14 an hour id love to sit on my ass all day and drive a bus around but i fail all the catorgories above.

um... hate to break it to ya sweetheart .. i drive for a living in Auckland traffic ( no.. not a bus) ..

'sitting on your ass all day' aint as easy as you think ..


oh .. and i make a few quid more than $14 / hr

[chef]

um... hate to break it to ya sweetheart .. i drive for a living in Auckland traffic ( no.. not a bus) ..

'sitting on your ass all day' aint as easy as you think ..


oh .. and i make a few quid more than $14 / hr

yeah neather is working in a hot kitchen geting owned by gordon ramsey all day eather for 14 bucks ha

[SARGE]

yeah neather is working in a hot kitchen geting owned by gordon ramsey all day eather for 14 bucks ha



never said it was .. i've worked in kitchens before and i know how it goes in there ....but from your post i assumed that you'd like to trade with me for a week to take a break

as far as ol' Gordy...i'd beat Ramsey to death with a leg of lamb and a tenderizing hammer


then i'd feed him to the pack of up-themselves foodie fags that go to the trendy restaurants to begin with

[paddy]

. . .then i'd feed him to the pack of up-themselves foodie fags that go to the trendy restaurants to begin with

Yum. Taste's like chicken.

[Rayray401]

Bah, they mostly quite nice (the islanders), just dont get the gangster types or the grumpy white guys or ladies.

[mynameis]

I work my ass off for $14 an hour

That explains the rambling, must suck being poor.

[Gremlin]

While bus drivers aren't innocent, you evidently haven't seen how the average cager darts in and around the bus, refuses to let it in etc. Now imagine driving this large object for hours on hours every day.

And no... I don't drive a bus... I don't even drive. But I spend enough time on my bike around Auckland City that if I couldn't skip traffic, I'd go mad.

Plus... I can see the arguments of both sides... this introduces something called balance...

[roy.nz]

They don't deserve a cent more. Everyone eps in this current time isn't get a pay rise so why should they. Plus they can't drive and all they do is sit. Stay locked out, because people don't really care.

[tri boy]

Bus driver deserve $50/hr. Having to put up with whinging little dropkicks, drunks who piss n spew in the bus and learner/wanker 250 m/cyclists that cut them off in heavy traffic.
Cooks deserve f##k all because I say so.
Whaaaaah!!!!!!!!!!

[ital916]

In japan bus drivers are wel paid. They have the lives of others in their hands and it is their job to get you safely to your destination. The bus is ALWAYS on time, if early they will tidy the bus stop and when leaving will recite a little oath stating it is their duty to serve and protect whilst you are on the bus. Badass. Plus they wear a uniform.

[vtec]

I've worked as a bicycle courier, and I never take the bus, but I reckon that shit if you're working full time trying to lug a 10 tonne bus around in Auckland city traffic and sort out peoples money, and you are doing it as a career, you deserve at least $20 per hour. And remember people that's NZ Peso's that we are talking about. You want to fix the economy, there needs to be more "trickle down". For people to spend and "stimulate the economy" they need to have munny. The problem is the rich have got too rich and the poor have got too poor and that has stalled the economy.

Funny thing is a lot of people see themselves as reasonably well off even though they are heavily in mortgage debt, it's become the accepted norm by the way financial institutions and government policy have structured the economy.

[davereid]

Right now the ratepayers are saving $1.12 million a week in subsidies to the bus company. Thats good for the rates, nexts years "super council" increase will only be 45% instead of 65%.

If the bus cant run without a subsidy IMHO it should be let go, its a liability not an asset.

As to driver pay ? I don't know how you could survive on $14 an hour. But pretty clearly, there is no shortage of qualified peple standing in line for the job, or the pay would go up to assist with recruiting staff.

[Mully]

I fucken love no buses in Auckland. Well, mostly no buses.

Cagers have been more polite and considerate than usual.
Intersections aren't clogged for a full phase cos a bus decided to run a red light and block the intersection for everybody else
Downtown isn't full of 5 buses trying to fit into a space made for 2 buses
Visibility in traffic is much improved on the bike
There are fewer vehicles spewing tonnes of choking diesel smoke all over everybody.
No-one is getting forced out of their lane by a bus trying to swing round a corner clearly not made for buses to swing round.
Hopefully more people, sick of the vagaries of public transport, will see the light and come to the two wheeled brigade.
Huzzah!!

So fuck the drivers. If the money is no good, go and train to do something else that pays better. That's what I did when I was earning fuck all. Shut your fucking whining.

I read that the ARC is paying NZ Bus $150K/day in subsidies. For that money, I'd:
Set up carpooling systems - with subsidised city parking for those who do carpool. And priority lanes for carpoolers (use the bus lanes)
Toll single occupant cages - no toll for carpool vehicles
Set up more free motorcycle parking in suitable places (maybe with lockers to rent by the day for gear.)
Encourage two-wheeled transport solutions (bicycle lanes/motorcycle & scooter lanes)
Sell most of the buses for scrap or for hippies to live in.
Kick the nuts of whoever is (not) running the trains to get them reliable and comfortable.

So in short; Fuck the bus drivers. Vote Mully for Supercity mayor.

[p.dath]

I have to say that with no buses running I am very dissapointed we don't have grid-lock, and more terribly congested motorways.

At the moment, from my perspective, I've barely noticed any difference. Obviously people have worked around the issue of needing to bus by car pooling or something else (perhaps the buses aren't used that heavily to make a difference?).

So that makes me wonder - why are we spending so much on subsidising buses and the construction of bus only rapid transit systems if it doesn't appear to be solving the congestion problem.


Perhaps we should be subsidising the use of motorcycles. LOL. :clap:

[The Pastor]

man if they get $16/hr that'd be close to what i get :o uni fail!

[oldrider]

I have to say that with no buses running I am very dissapointed we don't have grid-lock, and more terribly congested motorways.

At the moment, from my perspective, I've barely noticed any difference. Obviously people have worked around the issue of needing to bus by car pooling or something else (perhaps the buses aren't used that heavily to make a difference?).

So that makes me wonder - why are we spending so much on subsidising buses and the construction of bus only rapid transit systems if it doesn't appear to be solving the congestion problem.


Perhaps we should be subsidising the use of motorcycles. LOL. :clap:

Probably your best post! :niceone:

[StoneY]

um... hate to break it to ya sweetheart .. i drive for a living in Auckland traffic ( no.. not a bus) ..

'sitting on your ass all day' aint as easy as you think ..

oh .. and i make a few quid more than $14 / hr

Dead bloody right Sarge

I was a truckie for 4 years a few careers back, it was farkin hard work to dodge cagers, bikers, cyclists, moms n kids shopping, school hour....
And all the time TRY to keep them fuckers safe from my 48 tonnes of death on 28 wheels...which funny enough at legal speeds looks like its crawling, and takes a year to STOP!

Cheff mate see my point?

Them poor cunts in busses, pushed by shit schedules that never realize realistic travel times, are stressed and hard pressed to do the job and drive well at the same time...but no excuses here

Many are fucking noobs for sure that should never be allowed a peddle car but dude 14$ to drive a heavy vehicle for the legal 11 every day is SHIT money

Im on the commie's side here, union up, pay them right and get some quality people behind the wheels instead of the guy who will accept such as; what hes told he gets, is all he gets....

[MikeL]

Can someone please explain to me why "working to rule" is interpreted as taking disruptive strike action and therefore justifies a lock-out?
What exactly is "working to rule", if not interpreting the provisions of the employment contract literally?

Tempted as I am to apply for a job which pays a generous $14 an hour, I don't think my bladder can go 6 hours without a stop...

[StoneY]

In japan bus drivers are wel paid. They have the lives of others in their hands and it is their job to get you safely to your destination. The bus is ALWAYS on time, if early they will tidy the bus stop and when leaving will recite a little oath stating it is their duty to serve and protect whilst you are on the bus. Badass. Plus they wear a uniform.

And thats why we wont get a quality bus service
Pay peanuts, and monkeys will come for the pay

There was this old bugger Joe, driving my bus home for 2 years or so, real pro through and through 40 years on the job. He retired
Aint seen his like since so I brought the 600 back late last year......no more bus for me

[Patrick]

Lick me some windows......

If you take your helmet off, you will be able to do it, all on your own, you special boy...

[Mully]

Can someone please explain to me why "working to rule" is interpreted as taking disruptive strike action and therefore justifies a lock-out?
What exactly is "working to rule", if not interpreting the provisions of the employment contract literally?

Well, yeah there is that. I'm more celebrating the lack of buses.

If I had to guess, I'd say that NZ Bus's position is that the drivers (and the union) are not exhibiting "Good Faith" in the negotiations.

[Flatcap]

, i work my ass off for $14 an hour id love to sit on my ass all day and drive a bus around but i fail all the catorgories above.


1. You pay your donkey too much
2. How will you steer and accelerate whilst sitting on your donkey?

[Jonno.]

Bus drivers are rude, don't give way and cause a lot of congestion when pulling in and merging back into traffic (or as I like to put it "pushing"). Of course there are good buse drivers, but I think they are almost as rare as a sharks that's a vegitarian.

150k a day is stupid for a system that is expensive, slow, irregular and get's you from "not quite where you are, to not quite where you are going".

[Delerium]

trains for the win. If we actually invested in rail it would be on time. WTF is with britomart not being a thoroughfare, who is the complete dropkick barrel of monkey spunk that didnt see that becoming hte bottle neck. why is there no rail to the air port. why is there no rail to the shore. FFS this is what happens when you negelect the infrastructure for 30 years.

[Swoop]

I read that the ARC is paying NZ Bus $150K/day in subsidies. For that money, I'd:......
Your Worship.
You have neglected to mention that your actions will add another lane on the motorway AND create a lot more motorcycle parking spaces, from where the bus stops' used to be!
Huzzah!



Seriously. Bus drivers have living expenses like the rest of us. Inflation was rampant under the liarbour regime and the drivers are being offered fuck all. Probably not even keeping up with the rate of inflation.

[Mully]

Your Worship.
You have neglected to mention that your actions will add another lane on the motorway AND create a lot more motorcycle parking spaces, from where the bus stops' used to be!
Huzzah!

A nice concept, but my plan, apparently, was Nazism. Ironic, given the discussion of public transport, that someone missed the "Clue train" so badly.

Grr Nazis.


Seriously. Bus drivers have living expenses like the rest of us. Inflation was rampant under the liarbour regime and the drivers are being offered fuck all. Probably not even keeping up with the rate of inflation.


Absolutely. They are paid a pittance. I wouldn't do the job for much more money than they get in the hand.

As I understand it, the raise they were offered would negate previous inflation but wouldn't actually be an increase. Plus I believe there was some (proposed) changes to their contracts which would make their working conditions worse.

[mynameis]

I have to say that with no buses running I am very dissapointed we don't have grid-lock, and more terribly congested motorways.

At the moment, from my perspective, I've barely noticed any difference. Obviously people have worked around the issue of needing to bus by car pooling or something else (perhaps the buses aren't used that heavily to make a difference?).

So that makes me wonder - why are we spending so much on subsidising buses and the construction of bus only rapid transit systems if it doesn't appear to be solving the congestion problem.


Perhaps we should be subsidising the use of motorcycles. LOL. :clap:

Ish schk oool holidays Iron Stein. Duuuuh.

[mynameis]

man if they get $16/hr that'd be close to what i get :o uni fail!

You don't need a degree to drive a bus.

Are you trying to draw a line between Uni drop outs, high school graduates and high school drop outs :clap: :lol:

$16 an hour $15 an hour $14 an hour :laugh:

[Rodney007]

when i was truck driving (class 2) i was on 15.50 an hour so definatley they should be on 17 an hour minimum as they all have there class 1, class 2, class 4 and P endorsment,

im supprised the bus companys arent making a killing these days !

[Mekk]

trains for the win. If we actually invested in rail it would be on time. WTF is with britomart not being a thoroughfare, who is the complete dropkick barrel of monkey spunk that didnt see that becoming hte bottle neck. why is there no rail to the air port. why is there no rail to the shore. FFS this is what happens when you negelect the infrastructure for 30 years.

Anyone else notice the coincidence between the transport minister whining that KiwiRail needs to start making a profit and these bus strikes driving hundreds to the trains?

[Swoop]

A nice concept, but my plan, apparently, was Nazism. Grr Nazis.
Your plan was to be made Mayor of d'Auckland. I supported your initiative.
I don't do trains. They attract passengers who are worse than bus passengers.
They also cause "trainspotting". Luckily this is being outlawed in Britian as it could assist a "muslim terrorist fanatic attack" on the rail network. Does His Worship Mully, The Lord Mayor of Auckland, wish to ban trains as well?
We can get the tracks concreted over and made into "bike only" roads?:niceone:

[wbks]

mentaly retarded retards

okHahahaha Ironic post, much?

[Argyle]

saw in auckland they got locked out HAHA...becuase they are asking for $14 - $16 and hour, are they mental they deserve bear minimum they cut people off speed in tight small streets dont stop at bus stops, drive like mentaly retarded retards, all 50 years old over weight or islanders, well thats how they roll in wellington, i think there dreaming about a pay rise, i work my ass off for $14 an hour id love to sit on my ass all day and drive a bus around but i fail all the catorgories above.

FFS, of course they should have they money, they should earn more like 20dollars per hour, no one should earn less then 18dollars per hour with the prices on everything here in NZ!

[nana_mac]

I know what it is like to drive a coach not city runs but long distance, done it for 30years. Pay rate sucks for what drivers have to put up with. You shouldn't judge a book by it's cover. I did a survey for bus and coach ass a while ago, they were trying to recruit younger males and females to become drivers. I asked for a book to write the answers on as they were as follows.
What rate of pay did we think we deserved, my answer was $18- $20 as tanker drivers were on $25 and they only carried milk, never get pulled over onto weigh bridges. Freight is covered by insurance carted In trucks live stock is covered by insurance also carted in trucks we carry your loved ones and no insurance can ever replace a human life there for a coach drivers job should be worth a lot more than $14. The responsibility is so much greater.
I agree city drivers are arrogant most of the time but to deal with rude passengers all day no thanks not for me, long distance any time and deal with the motorist on the open road. Be a bus driver for a day then tell us what you really think. No one can ever replace a life lost in anyone of our family's.

[peasea]

I have to say that with no buses running I am very dissapointed we don't have grid-lock, and more terribly congested motorways.

At the moment, from my perspective, I've barely noticed any difference. Obviously people have worked around the issue of needing to bus by car pooling or something else (perhaps the buses aren't used that heavily to make a difference?).

So that makes me wonder - why are we spending so much on subsidising buses and the construction of bus only rapid transit systems if it doesn't appear to be solving the congestion problem.


Perhaps we should be subsidising the use of motorcycles. LOL. :clap:

Good point; instead the powers that be try to tax us OFF the road. The whole system is a giant con, like global warming, which is an excuse to tax the crap out of everyone.

[MikeL]

I have to say that on the occasions when I have to take a bus (usually when I have dropped one of my bikes off in town for servicing) I have found the drivers to be pleasant and the driving no worse than your average cage driver and usually a bit better. But I still find the whole experience frustrating, despite the fact I have a bus stop virtually at my door. Some years ago when I had a job in the CBD I decided to take the bus regularly. Even bought a monthly bus pass. Lasted about a week. For the same journey (CBD to Onehunga) at 5:30 p.m. the bike would take 20-25 minutes, by car it was 40 minutes, and in the bus around an hour. Worst time: 1 hour 15 minutes. A good train service (as experienced by people living in civilised cities around the world) is by far the best option. I am eagerly waiting the opening of the new Onehunga train line next year. I might even use it.

[jono035]

I dunno, heading to uni and back over the past couple of days seems to be pretty horrendous... Heaps more traffic around the Uni, Symonds st and Mt Eden rd at least, anyway...

Busless bus lanes have been a bonus. People parking in the bus lanes have been a bit irritating. The intersection between K rd and Symonds st actually works without buses trying to cross through the motorway on-ramp traffic. Still been just as many blocked intersections, inconsiderate cagers etc.

[smokeyging]

saw in auckland they got locked out HAHA...becuase they are asking for $14 - $16 and hour, are they mental they deserve bear minimum they cut people off speed in tight small streets dont stop at bus stops, drive like mentaly retarded retards, all 50 years old over weight or islanders, well thats how they roll in wellington, i think there dreaming about a pay rise, i work my ass off for $14 an hour id love to sit on my ass all day and drive a bus around but i fail all the catorgories above.



That would have to be one of the most stressful driving jobs in New Zealand. I’m for the drivers myself. I have driven professionally for 40 odd years and personally thats a job i would’nt even consider going near even if it payed $16 an hour.

[chef]

You don't need a degree to drive a bus.

Are you trying to draw a line between Uni drop outs, high school graduates and high school drop outs :clap: :lol:

$16 an hour $15 an hour $14 an hour :laugh:

$14 an hour im not a drop out im an apprentice chef... wich proberbly the best wage in wellington for an apprentice

[chef]

my intentsions of this post were aimed at bus drivers, and nothing else this thread has kinda side tracked to heavy vehicle drives, there alot more educated i find, im talking about steriotype wellington busies

[stify]

my intentsions of this post were aimed at bus drivers,

epic fail....this is a biker site....not too many bus drivers round here numb nuts

[kasper]

my intention of this post were aimed at bus drivers, and nothing else this thread has kinda side tracked to heavy vehicle drives, there alot more educated i find, im talking about stereotype wellington busies

So you are counting a bus as a NON heavy vehicle (anything above 3.5 tons is classed a heavy vehicle). and about 15 people make one ton (tonne whichever) how many people can a bus fit?

biker/ trucker kasper

[98tls]

Well fwiw i think anyone that drives for a living in a city should get $20 an hour at least,poor buggers i couldnt think of anything worse.Actually give em more just for living in a city,truly horrible sentence.

[Skyryder]

epic fail....this is a biker site....not too many bus drivers round here numb nuts

I'm one. So just a fail and not an epic one:second:

Still think that a heavy vehicle licence should be the first licence to get. Most will fail :spanking:and never get it. That will reduce the cars on the road and increase the bus patronage :msn-wink:and the over all energy consumption. Those that do cut the mustad will have a better understanding of driving a heavy vehicle and show some courtesy etc. And Oh since this is a biker:niceone: site I'd better make an exemption for them.:niceone:


Skyryder

[Jonno.]

Why don't we make the minimum wage 30$ an hour because that's what we all deserve?

[98tls]

Why don't we make the minimum wage 30$ an hour because that's what we all deserve? Add $10 an hour for those that have to live in Auckland,they truly deserve it.

[chef]

Why don't we make the minimum wage 30$ an hour because that's what we all deserve?

yeah that sounds good to me

[mynameis]

$14 an hour im not a drop out im an apprentice chef... wich proberbly the best wage in wellington for an apprentice

Ur spelin is wors thn skul drop ots, is ur cukin any beta aprntc jocky?

Maybe you should stick to the frying pan instead of trying to analyse complicated issues beyond your intellectual capacity and using up MB's on KB. It costs money.