sella.co.nz

[sAsLEX]

So who uses this?

Free to sell stuff... http://www.sella.co.nz/motoring/motorcycles-scooters/dirt-bikes/5065b4

[Big Dave]

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[Eddieb]

So who uses this?

Free to sell stuff... http://www.sella.co.nz/motoring/motorcycles-scooters/dirt-bikes/5065b4

I tried it recently, had my R80G/S on there for a week, it got about 40 views.
Have had the same bike on trade me for 3 days, 357 views so far.

[sAsLEX]

I tried it recently, had my R80G/S on there for a week, it got about 40 views.
Have had the same bike on trade me for 3 days, 357 views so far.

29 bucks to sell is a rip off from trademe though

[Eddieb]

29 bucks to sell is a rip off from trademe though

Why is it a ripoff? it's a business not a charity. What would it cost for you to auction it elsewhere with the same exposure?

7 days with 30 views vrs 3 days and 395 views is a big difference, the price isn't a lot to me if it sells.

[sAsLEX]

Why is it a ripoff? it's a business not a charity. What would it cost for you to auction it elsewhere with the same exposure?

7 days with 30 views vrs 3 days and 395 views is a big difference, the price isn't a lot to me if it sells.

Why does a bike cost 29 automatically?

Why if I sold something of the same value, say a stereo, would the fee be a percentage?

[vindy500]

Why does a bike cost 29 automatically?

Why if I sold something of the same value, say a stereo, would the fee be a percentage?

Because when you sell you 12k bike, thats alot of money

[sAsLEX]

Because when you sell you 12k bike, thats alot of money

If you want to pay that for my XR I would gladly drop 29 bucks. But when what I am selling is rather low in value......

[Bend-it]

Mainly, I think it's because for items like bikes, cars and houses, which incur a set fee, people generally want to make contact and see the item before buying. Once they make contact, there's nothing to stop them from making the deal privately and get out of paying trademe a success fee.

So... they have to charge for listing up front, then people are free to exchange contact numbers, meet etc... and if they charge up front, how would they know how much the item's gonna go for? So they've come up with a set fee... $29 for bikes, $169 (I think) for property etc...

I know people do exchange contact numbers in other auctins as well, but they're *not supposed* to... I don't work for trademe, and am abit pissed off at the high prices, but I understand why they do it...

They are the biggest online marketplace in NZ, so until someone else finds a way to get the same amount of listings and viewings... they'll still have the monopoly...

[Conquiztador]

Have tried sella. But nothing happens. Sadly. So TM it is until there is a change.

[MarkH]

29 bucks to sell is a rip off from trademe though

Ummm, many more buyers would see your bike on trademe, it isn't hard to believe that you may be able to get $500 or more extra on the sale - suddenly the $29 fee looks like a freakin' bargain!

[sAsLEX]

it isn't hard to believe that you may be able to get $500 or more extra on the sale - suddenly the $29 fee looks like a freakin' bargain!

For an 84 XR it is.

[Katman]

I can understand TM's listing fee.......but what the fuck is with the success fee?

[wbks]

Why is it a ripoff? it's a business not a charity. What would it cost for you to auction it elsewhere with the same exposure?

7 days with 30 views vrs 3 days and 395 views is a big difference, the price isn't a lot to me if it sells.It's a rip off, they were making a healthy proffit before they raised the prices shitloads. It used to be cheap to sell stuff there, and now that there is more business there you think they need to charge more to turn the same figure, not less? Australian wankers.

I can understand TM's listing fee.......but what the fuck is with the success fee?Like I said... Austwwalian wankers

[jaymzw]

Yup agreed. Trademe are a bunch of wankstains:tugger:

But i find them to be the best online site out there for getting your shit sold, as does every other NZer. As someone said about getting 40 views in a week. Sella just doesnt get used. :(
Also i tend to find that things such as cars and bikes are just put on Sella as it is free so they might put their used and abused 250 on for 5k and if someone bites then hey, they sell it.

TradeMe is just so huge! My 80yr old Grandpa has never touched a computer in his life. He hardly knows how to use his fancy new heat pump. Yet he knows about TradeMe and last month sold his ElCam on there. He even gave his Neighbor commission for listing :rolleyes:

[Katman]

It's a vicious circle.

People won't list an item on another auction site because it's unlikely to get the number of views that it would on TM. If they do choose to list it on another site it's often listed at a higher price to compensate for the reduced views.

People need to start buying off these alternative auction sites which will encourage more items to be listed at more attractive prices.

But no-one is interested in looking at a site that has a total of 67 items listed.

[MarkH]

I can understand TM's listing fee.......but what the fuck is with the success fee?

Could you explain further? I sold my car a few weeks ago (wasn't using it, it was just taking space up in the driveway) and got charged $39 for the listing. There was no success fee!

I sold a PC PSU - there is no listing fee for general merchandise, I just got charged a fairly small commission called a success fee. It was about 7% which was a fuck load cheaper than what any B&M store would charge for the same service.

It sounds like you are referring to a listing fee AND a success fee - but I have never been charged both.

[grusomhat]

There is always zillion.com

As Trademe keep putting up their fees, traders ARE moving to other sites. It's the high volume sellers which are moving and that's good because their listings make a site look busy, ie it breaks the circle :)

Trademe is huge though and it's going to take a while for the other sites to be just as good but they are getting there. Zillion especially has done extremely well at gaining a market share.

Hell though, other than having to pay upfront for a vehicle listing, $30-$80 is pretty good value for the exposure your vehicle gets.


Could you explain further? I sold my car a few weeks ago (wasn't using it, it was just taking space up in the driveway) and got charged $39 for the listing. There was no success fee!

I sold a PC PSU - there is no listing fee for general merchandise, I just got charged a fairly small commission called a success fee. It was about 7% which was a fuck load cheaper than what any B&M store would charge for the same service.

It sounds like you are referring to a listing fee AND a success fee - but I have never been charged both.

If you list a vehicle as a classified then there is no success fee. If you list it as an auction there is a listing fee + success fee.

[Katman]

It sounds like you are referring to a listing fee AND a success fee - but I have never been charged both.

If you list a vehicle as a classified ad (at a set price) you just pay the listing fee.

If you list a vehicle as an auction you pay the listing fee plus a success fee - the value of which is determined by whether your listing sells for more or less than $1000. $15 for less than $1000 - $39 for more.

[MarkH]

It's a vicious circle.

People won't list an item on another auction site because it's unlikely to get the number of views that it would on TM. If they do choose to list it on another site it's often listed at a higher price to compensate for the reduced views.

People need to start buying off these alternative auction sites which will encourage more items to be listed at more attractive prices.

But no-one is interested in looking at a site that has a total of 67 items listed.

This is the situation exactly - Trade Me is popular mainly due to the fact that Trade Me is popular. From their point of view it is a fantastic circle, for any competitor it is a vicious circle. Even Ebay would not be able to compete - their T & C are as bad or worse than on Trade Me and they really would not have any way to get their market share high enough to spark a revolt from Trade Me.

[MarkH]

If you list a vehicle as a classified ad at a set price you just pay the listing fee.

If you list a vehicle as an auction you pay the listing fee plus a success fee - the value of which is determined by whether your listing sells for more or less than $1500.

Ahh, I see. Well surely if the Trade Me site lists your vehicle then you pay them for it, if they host an auction for your vehicle then you pay them for that too. Surely this is the way of the world - companies provide a service to make a profit from it.

The real problem is the vicious circle one that you mentioned earlier - if you don't like Trade Me's fees then that is a problem because they have a virtual monopoly, no one but them can expose your goods to more potential buyers.

[Katman]

Well surely if the Trade Me site lists your vehicle then you pay them for it, if they host an auction for your vehicle then you pay them for that too.

What is the difference (to TM) between listing a vehicle as a classified or listing it as an auction?

Answer - nothing.

(Other than the fact that it's just an opportunity to suck some more money out of their members).

[Eddieb]

Why is it a ripoff? it's a business not a charity.


It's a rip off, they were making a healthy proffit before they raised the prices shitloads. It used to be cheap to sell stuff there, and now that there is more business there you think they need to charge more to turn the same figure, not less? Australian wankers.

I'll return to my point, it's a business not a charity.
As a business their main priority is to maximise return to their shareholders and grow that return year on year, not to provide as cheap a service as possible to you and me or the same profit each year. Like it or not it's a fact of corporate business, and thats what Trade Me is and as much as I'd like to agree about the Australian bit thats not the reason.

If you had an ice cream truck and sold 100 ice creams for $1 each earning yourself $100, and then discovered you could put the price up to $1.20 and still sell 100 ice creams making you $120 would you sell them for $1 or $1.20?

[Katman]

I'll return to my point, it's a business not a charity.


Of course it is.

But it had a whole lot less fucked off members before those fucking convicts got their hands on it.

[junkmanjoe]

ive got my bike listed on motorcycle trader, been there for nearly a week. 40 views.
been on tardme about same time. just over 300 views. its also on kiwi biker.
around 175 views.....
its only 29 bucks...to sell, that wouldn't even fill ya tank..

[sAsLEX]

its only 29 bucks...to sell, that wouldn't even fill ya tank..

But if you sell the bike for 100 bucks there goes a third of your money.

[wbks]

Yup agreed. Trademe are a bunch of wankstains:tugger:

But i find them to be the best online site out there for getting your shit sold, as does every other NZer. As someone said about getting 40 views in a week. Sella just doesnt get used. :(
Also i tend to find that things such as cars and bikes are just put on Sella as it is free so they might put their used and abused 250 on for 5k and if someone bites then hey, they sell it.

TradeMe is just so huge! My 80yr old Grandpa has never touched a computer in his life. He hardly knows how to use his fancy new heat pump. Yet he knows about TradeMe and last month sold his ElCam on there. He even gave his Neighbor commission for listing :rolleyes:No matter how shitty trademe gets, it will still thrive because people think "oh its the most popular one", and just perpetuate that, and trademe know it

[sAsLEX]

1984 XR250
CLOSED: This item was sold to another member.


No 29 fee. No success fee.

sella for the win.

[Zuki lover]

I signed up, but it was too time consuming, so never bothered. stuck to what I know - trademe:Pokey: