View Full Version : VTNZ are a pack of Wankers
Gubb
12th October 2009, 14:54
Adding to my issues with Vodafone, Ticketek, and Telecom come my latest in misadventures. No wonder Big Dave mentioned "Gubbstration". (That's Frustrated Gubb, not Menstrating Gubb)
I took the car in today to get a Warrant. It's a relatively late model, tidy car, and I wasn't expecting any issues at all as it's flown through all it's Warrants, and got a fairly new set of treads.
Take it to VTNZ Thorndon Quay in Wellingtown at about 11am. Sit through about 30 minutes of waiting before they call me up to come and get it. "Failed" says the fellow. Your windscreen wipers are worn, your Fog lights are out of adjustment and your Window Tints are too dark.
Ok, wipers would take about $4 and 2 minutes to sort, Fog Lights maybe an hour by the time I lose and re-find all the bolts again, but no big deal. Window Tints on the other hand....
I had them done about 2 years ago, and have little 35% stickers on the door to show they are legal. Warrant-man says they are registering at 30% and thus-illegal. I ask how the Car went throygh the last 4 Warrants without any issues. He says "For all I know they could have been put on yesterday, they are illegal." I ask to see the light meter that he used, he explains how it works and shows me the calibration certificate on the back. It had expired a month ago.
After I point out the expired certificate he stamers and says that the machines are self-calibrating and don't need certification anyway. I ask why they bother then, and he can't really answer. I ask to speak to the Manager, but apparantly he's not there and won't be for another 3 weeks. Fuck it, I can't do anything about it there, so I up and leave out to Porirua to the shop where I originally had my tints done. They use a meter to test it and say it's fine, the worst they found was 35.6%. He then explains that they have a few people come in with similar issues, and have a letter on template which points out a letter from the head of the LTSA saying that there needs to be a 5% tolerance to the 35% tint threshold. He said he would e-mail that to me as his Printer was broken.
After this I realised that I didn't ask which direction to Fog lights were out of alignment by. I call into the VTNZ in Porirua (after picking up a Birthday treat) to put it through the re-check to find out which way to direct the foglights.
They re-check it, and it passes through everything. No problems with the tints, fog lights or wipers.
So what is it VTNZ, are Porirua letting through deathtraps, or is Thorndon Quay far too harsh. How can a car get failed at one place on 3 seperate counts, but go through fine at another station 2 hours later when nothing has been touched?
Obviously there are double standards, and how can you justify testing cars when your tools are out of certified calibration? Surely that makes the whole process null and void anyway?
Pull your head in. You haven't heard the last from me yet. I'll be writing a motherfucking letter. That's not how I wanted to spend 4 hours on my Birthday, and the first day i've have off for 3 weeks.
vifferman
12th October 2009, 15:02
Happy Birthingday, Gubb! :wavey:
Elysium
12th October 2009, 15:03
So you had a good day then?
Gubb
12th October 2009, 15:09
So you had a good day then?
Fucking splendid. I was even more excited about the inch long screw sticking out of my new-ish Pilot Road 2.
Okey Dokey
12th October 2009, 15:14
Hmmm... I wonder if VTNZ has a central authority who will note one station passed a vehicle, and that another had only just failed? Will there be ramifications further down the line for the testers? Maybe someone knows...
Anyway, Gubb, I guess you will find these variations between not just stations, but individual testers, too. Stinks when you get the officious one, though.
Generally I am glad to have my car checked in case something is unsafe, but it sounds like you had a tough day!
_Shrek_
12th October 2009, 15:33
sounds like you've had a great start to the day, a fearly good reason to get :crybaby: :drinkup: & forget the rest :laugh: happy birthday :corn:
sil3nt
12th October 2009, 15:56
And this is why we don't go to VTNZ :yes:
Indiana_Jones
12th October 2009, 16:05
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ANARCHY IN THE UK!!!!
-Indy
peasea
12th October 2009, 16:09
Adding to my issues with Vodafone, Ticketek, and Telecom come my latest in misadventures. No wonder Big Dave mentioned "Gubbstration". (That's Frustrated Gubb, not Menstrating Gubb)
I took the car in today to get a Warrant. It's a relatively late model, tidy car, and I wasn't expecting any issues at all as it's flown through all it's Warrants, and got a fairly new set of treads.
Take it to VTNZ Thorndon Quay in Wellingtown at about 11am. Sit through about 30 minutes of waiting before they call me up to come and get it. "Failed" says the fellow. Your windscreen wipers are worn, your Fog lights are out of adjustment and your Window Tints are too dark.
Ok, wipers would take about $4 and 2 minutes to sort, Fog Lights maybe an hour by the time I lose and re-find all the bolts again, but no big deal. Window Tints on the other hand....
I had them done about 2 years ago, and have little 35% stickers on the door to show they are legal. Warrant-man says they are registering at 30% and thus-illegal. I ask how the Car went throygh the last 4 Warrants without any issues. He says "For all I know they could have been put on yesterday, they are illegal." I ask to see the light meter that he used, he explains how it works and shows me the calibration certificate on the back. It had expired a month ago.
After I point out the expired certificate he stamers and says that the machines are self-calibrating and don't need certification anyway. I ask why they bother then, and he can't really answer. I ask to speak to the Manager, but apparantly he's not there and won't be for another 3 weeks. Fuck it, I can't do anything about it there, so I up and leave out to Porirua to the shop where I originally had my tints done. They use a meter to test it and say it's fine, the worst they found was 35.6%. He then explains that they have a few people come in with similar issues, and have a letter on template which points out a letter from the head of the LTSA saying that there needs to be a 5% tolerance to the 35% tint threshold. He said he would e-mail that to me as his Printer was broken.
After this I realised that I didn't ask which direction to Fog lights were out of alignment by. I call into the VTNZ in Porirua (after picking up a Birthday treat) to put it through the re-check to find out which way to direct the foglights.
They re-check it, and it passes through everything. No problems with the tints, fog lights or wipers.
So what is it VTNZ, are Porirua letting through deathtraps, or is Thorndon Quay far too harsh. How can a car get failed at one place on 3 seperate counts, but go through fine at another station 2 hours later when nothing has been touched?
Obviously there are double standards, and how can you justify testing cars when your tools are out of certified calibration? Surely that makes the whole process null and void anyway?
Pull your head in. You haven't heard the last from me yet. I'll be writing a motherfucking letter. That's not how I wanted to spend 4 hours on my Birthday, and the first day i've have off for 3 weeks.
I think the post title has something to with it.
Insanity_rules
12th October 2009, 16:14
Happy birthday Gubb,
Sounds like you've had a blinder so far! Hope it gets better.
FROSTY
12th October 2009, 16:29
Gubb--mate not going into who's right or wrong but just a lil heads up-some of the cheaper tints actually darken down over time.
Not saying in this case they got it right just a bit of a factoid for ya
sinfull
12th October 2009, 16:43
Happy birthday mate ! If it's any consolation i have 90 % of motorheads discography !
Flip
12th October 2009, 17:23
IMHO some of them are cunts.
I took my 40 year old sports car in to the Seaview testing station. The old dick who was testing it went over, over and over the car for an hour. Finally took the car off the line and continued to inspect it. During which time the line of vehicles had extended past the drive way and drivers were leaving the que. His colligues came over and he told them that there was always somthing wrong with all old cars, they just gave me a sorry look and left...... He finally found that if he pulled the steering wheel hard up and down he could cause the spline on the steering box to slip a bit. Now the the steering spline is retained by the pinch bolt and could not come out. He declaired that the car was dangerous and had failed and I had to fix the problem and bring the vehicle back.
Well I opened the tool kit, pulled out my trusty 7/16 open ender at which stage the old fart came up behind me and told me I could not fix the car there and had to take it away for repairs. I told him to get stuffed, tightened the pinch bolt and told him to re-inspect the bloddy car.
I won't deal with VTNZ anymore, my company will not deal with VTNZ and I advise anybody I know not to deal with VTNZ. Some of them are just a bunch of NAZI wankers in their blue uniforms.
I certanly understand how Gubb feels, take your vehicle to somebody you trust. I bet your local garage would be gratefull for the work.
Jonno.
12th October 2009, 17:28
And at $50 for a car :angry2:
Indiana_Jones
12th October 2009, 17:28
I went to one of those AA places. The whole joint was ran by fucking wobbly tops.
Then when it came to my WOF the cunts made me do the whole just about about. I had to sit on the bike, put the lights on, put the indicators on etc. WTF was I paying them for?
Never again.
-Indy
Ixion
12th October 2009, 17:30
Many (but not all) VTNZ places are totally out of their depth dealing with anything outside the "two year old Toyota Corolla" type of vehicle.
But , there are good ones. The "old guys" can go either way. Some are anally retentive morons, who test everything on the aforesaid 2yo Corolla basis. Some, are the opposite , and will say "Oh, yes the xxx isn't much good, but then they never were, can't expect it to be better than when new".
I like to take a very boring bike or car along and observe. Dickheads are easy to spot.
racefactory
12th October 2009, 17:34
Happy Birthday dude!!
Yeah WOF is just a fucking joke really. An expensive gamble that comes up and has to be done twice a year for many.
One thing i learnt about WOF is to personally check over all the areas yourself thoroughly and if you have any doubts about difficult cunts as such not passing something particular, go to a testing station and try and get someone to kindly come out and just tell you if they will think it will pass. If they don't give you what you want to hear just move on to the next one. In my experience if you go to some asian places, they seem to not be too into fucking you over, very good, fair people a lot of them. I know VTNZ wails about giving you an unbiased check but the rediculous shit that comes out from that place is absolutely not on.
Mom
12th October 2009, 17:46
So what is it VTNZ, are Porirua letting through deathtraps
Man I am going to take Gubbstration and use it :yes:
I dont think it is one VTNZ mate, it is some of the people that are employed by VTNZ around the country.
Case in point. We have a caravan, it is now permanently parked somewhere for reasons that will become obvious soon.
We went to get it all legal to tow it for our family summer holiday, now we are not stupid people, we dont like to take risks with our children so we are happy, nay overjoyed with bliss, to get the WOF clean bill of safety health for our vehicles. Haul the thing to the testing station and it failed :pinch: Brakes lines bleeding and cyclinders leaking. That may or may not have had something to do with the fact it seemed really heavy to tow so we stopped to discover the handbrake was on :doh:
Anyway, we take it to our local Pit Stop (brake specialists, and able to issue warrants too) for repair. Some $400 later it is good to go, we hook it back up and go to VTNZ for a recheck before we hit the road to the beach. Bloke that failed it originally is not happy with the repair! EHHHHHH? Here is my invoice showing what work has been done, the are specialists afterall, and bugger me purple, they also can issue warrants too, what do you mean you are not happy? I get a tiny bit grumpy sometimes :innocent:
Well the brake lines are not attached to the chasis as I would like to see them says gormless twat. I just looked at him.
We got WOF and took off for our holiday. Some of them simply need a Gubb "look". :D
Flip
12th October 2009, 17:49
If the old fool had known jack shit about old cars he would have realised:
The car is on 175-14 race compound tyres not 145-13 cross plys, That the car was lowered. Had positive camber front suspension. Had a race sway bar and a rear pan hard rod fitted. Had a exhaust that well makes more noise than my harley.
He was just an old fart who took it upon himself to find some thing to fail the old girl on, It took about 2 hours to get the car through what should have been a 10 min inspection.
SMOKEU
12th October 2009, 17:49
Fuck VTNZ. The testers there nearly dropped my bike several times, then 1 of the guys did a hard launch inside the workshop and got the back wheel spinning a bit, then he locked the back wheel and got the bike a bit sideways. I wasn't impressed by the way they treated my bike.
scumdog
12th October 2009, 17:53
After I point out the expired certificate he stamers and says that the machines are self-calibrating and don't need certification anyway. I ask why they bother then, and he can't really answer. I ask to speak to the Manager, but apparantly he's not there and won't be for another 3 weeks. Fuck it, I can't do anything about it there, so I up and leave out to Porirua to the shop where I originally had my tints done. They use a meter to test it and say it's fine, the worst they found was 35.6%. He then explains that they have a few people come in with similar issues, and have a letter on template which points out a letter from the head of the LTSA saying that there needs to be a 5% tolerance to the 35% tint threshold. He said he would e-mail that to me as his Printer was broken.
After this I realised that I didn't ask which direction to Fog lights were out of alignment by. I call into the VTNZ in Porirua (after picking up a Birthday treat) to put it through the re-check to find out which way to direct the foglights.
They re-check it, and it passes through everything. No problems with the tints, fog lights or wipers.
So what is it VTNZ, are Porirua letting through deathtraps, or is Thorndon Quay far too harsh. How can a car get failed at one place on 3 seperate counts, but go through fine at another station 2 hours later when nothing has been touched?
Obviously there are double standards, and how can you justify testing cars when your tools are out of certified calibration? Surely that makes the whole process null and void anyway?
Pull your head in. You haven't heard the last from me yet. I'll be writing a motherfucking letter. That's not how I wanted to spend 4 hours on my Birthday, and the first day i've have off for 3 weeks.
Tell SixPackBack - it will give him a new windmill to joust at.:yes:
DarkLord
12th October 2009, 17:53
Sucks to hear about your car, even more about your tyre.
imdying
12th October 2009, 18:42
You guys still get warrants? :laugh:
Pedrostt500
12th October 2009, 19:15
A quick rule of thum for VTNZ stations is stay away from the ones that are bussy all the time, I found the one in Upper Hutt quiet good, though i havent been back for a few years.
I have found some garages will fail a vechicle just to charge for unessesary work.
davereid
12th October 2009, 19:18
Fuck VTNZ. The testers there nearly dropped my bike several times, then 1 of the guys did a hard launch inside the workshop and got the back wheel spinning a bit, then he locked the back wheel and got the bike a bit sideways. I wasn't impressed by the way they treated my bike.
Yeah, my bike only has a side stand... so the VTNZ guy approached with a jack to stick under the fairing to jack it off the ground... then he complained that only the left hand headlight worked on low beam...
Now I go to a local garage where the WOF guy is a petrol head... he actually understands his job, bikes and cars.
Its great to know that if there is something wrong he will find it, but he wont fail you just to be a prick.
T bone
12th October 2009, 19:36
its rather amusing reading these comments, I used to be a mechanic, part of my job was warrant inspector(which I hated) I remember a car coming in from VTNZ & they had missed that a ball joint had excessive play, along with a few other minor issues. Interesting indeed
AllanB
12th October 2009, 19:46
Then when it came to my WOF the cunts made me do the whole just about about. I had to sit on the bike, put the lights on, put the indicators on etc. WTF was I paying them for?
Eh????
All my bike WOF's are like that - I even get to heave on the bike to pivot it up on the side stand so they can spin the wheels. :yes:
Then we talk about bikes while they write down the chassis number and I'm out of there in 10 minutes.
A few years back the guy checked so little on the bike other that the lights, horn that I suspect he was actually the cleaner who had grabbed my clip board.
With cars some are really anal and appear to be making issues that do no exist.
I'm pretty sure you letter will get your point across!!!!!!!!!!!
ready4whatever
12th October 2009, 19:47
Does anybody know what the Whakatane VTNZ is like. I'm sick of shit that needs fixing every time. wondering if the mechanic just wants extra work so he fails you. Happy birthday man
YellowDog
12th October 2009, 19:50
I don't like them either.
If you aint got a centre stand, you need to be strong.
shafty
12th October 2009, 20:11
Happy birthday Gubb and thanks for the laugh.
Bowl in with a digi camera, walk right up to the prick, take his photo and walk away without saying a word LOL
Then post the Prick Pic here LOL
bogan
12th October 2009, 20:14
I have no problems with VTNZ palmy jasper st (for my cages), trick is to try and have a yarn with the tester so they go easy on ya. Though they have failed me three times on two vehicles in the last month, all issues seemed justified though. I have stopped taking my bike there though, I trust a bike shop to pick up any dangerous stuff thats not on the wof list.
325rocket
12th October 2009, 20:21
Fuck VTNZ. The testers there nearly dropped my bike several times, then 1 of the guys did a hard launch inside the workshop and got the back wheel spinning a bit
haha, same thing happened to me. i was waiting for my bike when i hear this huge rev and one of the guys at VTNZ (Thorndon!!!) came out on the back wheel. he hops off crapping himself and mumbles something about "bloody fast these jap bikes". it was horrible to see but funny to watch.
i wont be going back there.
rustic101
12th October 2009, 20:23
:scooter:Happy Birthday Gubb, shame it was a bastard of a start..
Not defending VTNZ but I personally use Upper Hutt VTNZ when ever I get the L200 a warrant, the guys there are excellent and if work does need done I know its needed, so far so good as the last was rear bushes which they even told me how to do but would not say where to get parts.. Parts ended up being cheaper at Mitzi anyway and took an hour to do outside their station.
However Thorndon on the other hand are IMHO pricks. They failed a co-workers Harley as it was too loud. Well if you are going to test a bike in a concreate building what do you expect, you clowns, take it outside in a natural environment? They say the test is subjective, what ever.... It eventually passed after a lot of heartach, money and an independant test
In law you must be proven guilty, with VTNZ at Thorndon it appears they do not have the ability to apply common sence or a little leaway where safety is not overly affected.:bash:
Indiana_Jones
12th October 2009, 20:41
Eh????
All my bike WOF's are like that - I even get to heave on the bike to pivot it up on the side stand so they can spin the wheels. :yes:
They didn't do that normal stuff at the AA place, which i found odd.
The wrecker I use normally justs does it by himself or with the help of his young fella while i walk off to the bike shops
-Indy
That Guy
12th October 2009, 20:50
VTNZ Thorndon Quay are really hard work. My car failed a brake test.
Took it to the local garage, they laughed at me for taking the car to VTNZ Thorndon "ha ha ha we gets heaps of business from them".
Local garage looked at my brakes. "Nothing wrong, well with in spec." they say.
"Can you WOF it?" I say. Local garage: "no you have to go back to the place that failed you". Ok .
Took it back to VTNZ Thorndon: "My brakes are fixed". VTNZ Thorndon tests again. " Nah they are better but still a fail" they say.
"WTF" I say. "Brake balance" VTNZ Thorndon say.
OK...so I take it back to local garage.
They laf and laf and laf.
And then laf some more.
Finally they say VTNZ Thorndon are a pack of wankers, they'll take my car down for me and sort it. "Thanks" I say.
I go along for entertainment.
My local garage mechanic has a stand up argument in the VTNZ in front of other VTNZ customers. Being a good mechanic, he pulls out the standards booky and also the spec for my car from the manufacturer. He shows this to VTNZ expeeeeerrrrt.
He then takes car to brake tester in front of VTNZ EXPERT and shows him the results again.
Same as last time.
Show VTNZ eggpurt that my car passes easily via books and literature and evidence (seemed they need evidence 'cause its like going to the judge at VTNZ). Then (good bit) he shouts at him to give my car a freckin' warrant.
result? I bought mechanic much beer. VTNZ get no more business from me.
Mully
12th October 2009, 20:51
I had fun with a VTNZ in Auckland with complying a recently imported vehicle.
I won't go into details, because my blood pressue will skyrocket, but suffice it to say "Never again" for VTNZ
lostinflyz
12th October 2009, 20:53
mate i posted this same nonsense at the vtnz in dunedin about 2 months ago. they claimed all sorts of crap that made no sense what so ever, real pricks about it too.
the one in chch was pretty sweet (blenheim rd) but i think ill give the lot a miss now, there's something about working there that makes you a wanker more often than not.
kinda like being a traffic cop i guess.......
lostinflyz
12th October 2009, 20:54
VTNZ Thorndon Quay are really hard work. My car failed a brake test.
Took it to the local garage, they laughed at me for taking the car to VTNZ Thorndon "ha ha ha we gets heaps of business from them".
Local garage looked at my brakes. "Nothing wrong, well with in spec." they say.
"Can you WOF it?" I say. Local garage: "no you have to go back to the place that failed you". Ok .
Took it back to VTNZ Thorndon: "My brakes are fixed". VTNZ Thorndon tests again. " Nah they are better but still a fail" they say.
"WTF" I say. "Brake balance" VTNZ Thorndon say.
OK...so I take it back to local garage.
They laf and laf and laf.
And then laf some more.
Finally they say VTNZ Thorndon are a pack of wankers, they'll take my car down for me and sort it. "Thanks" I say.
I go along for entertainment.
My local garage mechanic has a stand up argument in the VTNZ in front of other VTNZ customers. Being a good mechanic, he pulls out the standards booky and also the spec for my car from the manufacturer. He shows this to VTNZ expeeeeerrrrt.
He then takes car to brake tester in front of VTNZ EXPERT and shows him the results again.
Same as last time.
Show VTNZ eggpurt that my car passes easily via books and literature and evidence (seemed they need evidence 'cause its like going to the judge at VTNZ). Then (good bit) he shouts at him to give my car a freckin' warrant.
result? I bought mechanic much beer. VTNZ get no more business from me.
you dont have to go back to where failed you, you only have to go back to get the WOF reinspection for free.
chef
12th October 2009, 21:00
well im taking the bike to porirua now ha
That Guy
12th October 2009, 21:00
i wondered about that. another lie told.
paddy
12th October 2009, 21:05
. . .then he complained that only the left hand headlight worked on low beam. . .
That's hilarious! Just a quick plug: I've had mixed luck with car WoFs so I was a bit apprehensive when I took my bike in for it's first ever (well, my first ever anyway) WoF. I was pleasantly surprised - the guy rides - his BMW1200 was out front, and was sensible and reasonable if you know what I mean:
Dave Brock Motors in Whangaparaoa :clap:
I'll have to take my car in soon and see what happens.
Timber020
12th October 2009, 21:13
Took terrano for wof at VTNZ wellington. "fail, rust in front"
Take to panel beaters,32 days and 3k later the front is all steel and rust free
Took it back for new check with VTNZ "fail, rust in back"
"WTF?" says me, why didnt you tell me about that a month ago, I would have thrown the ute away"
Get this, they said "it cant have been there, must have just come up"
4k later terrano was ALL steel.
7k spent on 5k work wagon.
Consider yourselves lucky, I have 3 trucks and VTNZ is the ONLY place you can go in wellington for a 107$ COF. WANKERS
Gremlin
12th October 2009, 21:20
Haven't had problems with VTNZ Botany Hub or Cryers Rd, all 4 bikes of Zapf and I go through there. Issues are advised, such as pads getting low etc, and yeah... the bike inspection guys actually have bikes. :eek5:
Seem like a bunch of good real people... (even being managed by a pom I think :crazy:)
Pixie
13th October 2009, 08:43
what do you mean you are not happy? I get a tiny bit grumpy sometimes
Is there some kind of problem between Happy and Grumpy?
I think Snow White could be involved
FROSTY
13th October 2009, 10:16
On the whole i'm happy we have a safety inspection on our cars because as much as you lot bitch about the testers the alternative aint pretty.
Mind you I got a failed wof for a bike beeing to loud.
Now the LTSA standard is 100dbs for a bike over 250cc etc etc.
This bike was so quiet you could talk in a normal voice with it idling and slightly raised when revved up.
jim.cox
13th October 2009, 11:34
On the whole i'm happy we have a safety inspection on our cars because as much as you lot bitch about the testers the alternative aint pretty.
Yeah?
I've lived in both Aussie and Alaska - neither of those countries require regular inspections
Personally I find the six month roll around ridiculous
Especially when one of my vehicles gets used about twice in that period.
Just another example of NZ's $$ sucking bureaucracy if you ask me
Ixion
13th October 2009, 11:49
Is there some kind of problem between Happy and Grumpy?
I think Snow White could be involved
Snow White is pregnant. Happy is happy. Grumpy is grumpy. Guess who rooted her, and guess who's going to be paying the child support.
Gubb
13th October 2009, 12:21
On the whole i'm happy we have a safety inspection on our cars because as much as you lot bitch about the testers the alternative aint pretty.
I agree, but what's the point in doing it if it fails at one VTNZ station, and passes at another without anything having been touched. My frustration is about the lack of consistancy and using tools with expired calibration certs.
Reckless
13th October 2009, 13:00
Heres a few thoughts Gubb,
Read your post last night and its been flying round in my head. Bloody Kiwibiker! LOL!
Dunno if this will work but it makes sense in my head "SORT of"??
Use the system
Send them a bill for lost time say two hours plus travel. Your quite within your rights to send them this, as evidenced by there own issue of the warrent on the same day as they initially wasted your time!
That's say 2 x $100 plus $100 travel (or whatever hourly rate you can justify)
Builder would be $50 Lawyer would be $250 per hour etc.
So thats an invoice for lost time for say $300.
They won't pay, so Debt collect them. (If you win your case this will stay on their record)
They won't pay that so its small claims or court.
Then let the judge decide! (this is what you where aiming for anyway, unless they pay up of coarse)
The way I read it, you have a good case, the issue of the warrant on the same day is all the evidence you need as to the pointlessness of the exercise, and length of time at the previous visit.
Secondly in court you can ask questions like How long does a warrant usually take? It'll be 20mins, so the 2 hours it took for your to fail, will look like the prat was looking specifically for a problem not just ticking the normal boxes etc That'll also to prove your case.
I also think its important to not treat this as two branches you went to VTNZ not xxx branch and xxx branch so that also proves a systemic failure in their system costing you the loses on your invoice. Of coarse you go for more costs and lost time in taking it to court if you win. This also can be explained quietly but firmly when they first ring you up to query why the invoice in the first place! Its now a game, the shoes on the other foot, your the puppet master, and your wasting their time!!
Look I haven't got time to embellish further but as I see it, this approach causes most pain and least amount of time wasting on your part.
That'll teach the old prick with the wasted life with a small wage and a lot of power and the guys who stood by and let it happen (incl his boss) a freckin good lesson even if you loose!
Just an idea, dunno if it will work but others here may know??
It would help a lot if your in business for yourself I'd imagine. Good luck! Dunno if it will even fly, but its only a piece of paper and 15mins in the start anyway and it will cause a bit of grief for the old prat with the power trip. Don't forget he probably does it 5 times a week to some poor sod!!
PS add a 1/2 hour for me will ya I've just lost 1/2 hour of architectural design charge out writing this LOL!!
paddy
13th October 2009, 15:18
Send them a bill for lost time say two hours plus travel. Your quite within your rights to send them this, as evidenced by there own issue of the warrent on the same day as they initially wasted your time!
There are some good thoughts there and the sentiment is right, but I don't think that "their own issue of the warrent [sic] on the same day" is "evidence" that you have the right to invoice them for your time.
I'm no lawyer, but I doubt you would get anywhere with this. They haven't engaged your services and so I doubt that you could collect on any invoice issued. I also doubt that Veda would collect the debt for you. The law already has recourse for this situation and you mentioned it later - the Small Claims Tribunal.
It would be nice if it did work that way though - I would be rich (and probably poor all at the same time).
PS add a 1/2 hour for me will ya I've just lost 1/2 hour of architectural design charge out writing this LOL!!
Just paid one click of bling. Will that be adequate?
Reckless
13th October 2009, 15:37
yeh mate cool! LOL!!!
Was just a few thoughts, others may comment!
That treatment would have me fuming, although I do work with Councils a lot so I have to be very patient and not upset them, as my next client may suffer because of a previous debate! Very fine line some days LOL!!
At least there are other options for a Warrant!
shingo
13th October 2009, 20:08
Yeah?
I've lived in both Aussie and Alaska - neither of those countries require regular inspections
Personally I find the six month roll around ridiculous
Especially when one of my vehicles gets used about twice in that period.
Just another example of NZ's $$ sucking bureaucracy if you ask me
Most of the states in Aus require regurlar vehicle inspections, or they require you to keep a vehicle road worthy which the police have been known to set up checkpoints specifically to check for.
crazyhorse
19th October 2009, 12:00
I took my bike into the Hastings VTNZ on Saturday. Got there by 8 am (opening time), paid for my warrant, lined her up. Then along comes Jo Blogg to tell me that they are really sorry, as there is no one on duty today to do my warrant.........WTF!!!! Why take the money, and then say - oh we are very sorry!.
They did not refund the money, but gave me a VTNZ voucher. So I rush off to Napier and get it done there - the most simplest warrant I have ever had - they hardly checked anything!
Lucky for me, all else went smooth, as I had a buyer coming down from the big smoke to buy it. And she's gone now. :weep:
Morepower
19th October 2009, 14:54
I took my bike into the Hastings VTNZ on Saturday. Got there by 8 am (opening time), paid for my warrant, lined her up. Then along comes Jo Blogg to tell me that they are really sorry, as there is no one on duty today to do my warrant.........WTF!!!! Why take the money, and then say - oh we are very sorry!.
They did not refund the money, but gave me a VTNZ voucher. So I rush off to Napier and get it done there - the most simplest warrant I have ever had - they hardly checked anything!
Lucky for me, all else went smooth, as I had a buyer coming down from the big smoke to buy it. And she's gone now. :weep:
The Guys in Napier at top end of Taradale road are ok , there are one or two bike guys working there.
On the opposite note my Ex turned up with her Holden a year or so back saying it had been making a funny noise when stopping , cant be the brakes she said just been and got a new warrant at testing station.
rear pads were down to metal and fronts just about gone 2 . This is a 4 wheel disk car with alloys so the pads arent invisable . 1 minute with a mirror and torch , dont mind them being tough as long as they are looking at the right things! not failing you because you have run the washer bottle dry ( yes they do this ) .
Hopeful Bastard
19th October 2009, 15:19
Took my car to VTNZ in levin almost a year ago i guess... Had some driving lights i had just installed. Get told they are too bright. so i go and change them. A week later, Go back and they now tell me that they have to turn off when i turn my headlights on.. Being a teenager in a sporty looking car but not powerful or modified or anything, Gives them reason to pick on me? :argh:
Makes me laugh to be honest.. They missed the broken engine mount, They missed the CV joints being stuffed.. 2 most important things you need when driving.. Is an Engine and turning wheels..
Took my car to Eckerslies Auto's 6 months ago with one of my Driving lights out and with the Relays stuffed, They wouldnt turn out when i turned my headlights on.. Took my car for a drive and he didnt even pick up on my steering being out of alignment..
So either VTNZ like picking on me and are blind stubborn Cu*ts or Eckerslies are dodgy buggers :eek5:
avgas
19th October 2009, 16:00
Classics that VTNZ have caused me.
Corona:
- Brake light full of water, so i go home drill a hole in the bottom of it, wait for it to redry - then retest it to pass
- Headlight height too high, so i drive around block, let out air pressure and do retest.
Chevanne:
- Rust....all around edges. So I paint whole car with house paint, edges gone.
GOGOGO
2nd September 2016, 12:05
Guess what? The tester in VTNZ lied in my report and when I complaint, the officer said "I believe our testers." HEHE I DON'T. And another tester insist on I am going to cheat with my supporter all the time though my test! I had enough for VTNZ!Give me back AA!!!!
Mike.Gayner
2nd September 2016, 12:11
Holy thread necromancy.
GOGOGO
2nd September 2016, 12:19
Holy thread necromancy.
I don't even know what should I do like the officer now saying,by looking at the mistakes you took before, what the test lied suppose to be the fact.
I should really record the test in that day.
mashman
2nd September 2016, 12:23
I don't even know what should I do like the officer now saying,by looking at the mistakes you took before, what the test lied suppose to be the fact.
I should really record the test in that day.
Even though VTNZ aren't supposed to breath test you, I'd say stop drinking before the test.
Banditbandit
2nd September 2016, 12:25
Holy thread necromancy.
More like necrophilia ... it's 17 years dead !!!
Mike.Gayner
2nd September 2016, 12:26
I don't even know what should I do like the officer now saying,by looking at the mistakes you took before, what the test lied suppose to be the fact.
I should really record the test in that day.
Either I'm having a stroke, or you are, because I don't understand a word of what you're saying.
GOGOGO
2nd September 2016, 12:31
Even though VTNZ aren't supposed to breath test you, I'd say stop drinking before the test.
HA HA THANK YOU:rolleyes:
jasonu
2nd September 2016, 14:40
Either I'm having a stroke, or you are, because I don't understand a word of what you're saying.
That's what you get when you live in a country full of foreigners...
Akzle
2nd September 2016, 14:48
That's what you get when you live in a country full of foreigners...
the only martians seem to be the one's running the sideshow..
MrMarko
2nd September 2016, 15:02
lol... you actually get your vehicles inspected.
Crasherfromwayback
2nd September 2016, 15:23
lol... you actually get your vehicles inspected.
You couldn't be more retarded if you tried. Cum Stain.
FlangMasterJ
2nd September 2016, 15:45
You couldn't be more retarded if you tried. Cum Stain.
http://i.imgur.com/QONVIyz.gif
Mike.Gayner
2nd September 2016, 16:01
That's what you get when you live in a country full of foreigners...
Yeah I wish we were more scared and jingoistic like Americans. Then the world would be a better place.
jasonu
2nd September 2016, 16:52
Yeah I wish we were more scared and jingoistic like Americans. Then the world would be a better place.
And don't you fucking forget it!!!
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MrMarko
2nd September 2016, 20:32
You couldn't be more retarded if you tried. Cum Stain.
At least i didn't have to utilize gravity to dribble off a chin.
Akzle
2nd September 2016, 20:45
You couldn't be more retarded if you tried. Cum Stain.
you mean he's not trying?
I dont know which would be more pathetic.
Crasherfromwayback
3rd September 2016, 00:55
At least i didn't have to utilize gravity to dribble off a chin.
Translate into English please?
you mean he's not trying?
I dont know which would be more pathetic.
I know right?
caseye
3rd September 2016, 09:24
Translate into English please?
I know right?
Get room you two! LOL. Gotcha's.
Maha
3rd September 2016, 10:53
Translate into English please?
Drool/dribble is a natural occurrence to some, whereas others need the natural phenomenon of gravity by which all things with energy are brought toward one another.
MrMarko
3rd September 2016, 11:50
Translate into English please?
I know right?
No i won't translate it lol
I'm sure you can summon the brain cells to action enough.
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