Newby to Kiwi Biker from France (marigami)

[marigami]

Hi everybody,

As I am very involved in biking in France and like it I kept wondering how it was for bikers in New Zealand, first of all because I'd so like to come over!
I am a she-biker (first and foremost I DO apolozise, english is not my mother tongue so please be kind with me) and at the moment I owns 2 bikes, used to have 3 but had to sell one, needed money!
Here in France it is not so easy to be a trus biker, even more as a girl and, above all, a tiny girl : see I am not 5 feet and it was difficult to find bikes for me.
But I managed, I currently have a zephit 750 and a 400 bandit.
I have my driving licence since 2000 but I've been interested in bikes for more than 20 years as my father was a biker as my brother and my sister's friends.
I do not have car at all neither car driving licence.
I've got to know about the kiwi bikeers and will be glad to tell you more about the french bikers.
Hope you will help and tell me.
See you.

[Paul in NZ]

Welcome... Don't wory about your english, its better than our french... besides, using words like She-Biker is just unbearably cute..... Bound to get the attention of the dateless and desperate...:innocent:

[YellowDog]

Hey Marigami,

Your English is already better than most on here and also if you try too hard with getting your English right, we won't be able to imagine a sexy French accent whilst reading. :yes:

Welcome to KB.

[marigami]

Thank you for your warm welcome.
And I feel terribly sorry for my mistakes as I reread my post, oops, I think my fingers got all mixed up and I typed too quickly !
And she-bikers, uhhh wasn't it the right word ? :Oops::Oops:
I have the feeling that in the future I will keep on making a fool of myself with my odd words...:yes::yes:
So I think you have understood that I have a Zephyr, not a zephit (shame on me...).
Now it is 8.30 pm in France, making my dinner.
And I do not mind getting contacts, uhh I mean I will be happy to write and know more about NZ and bikers and so.
And I am going to read more thread on the forums in order to know what are the proper words for all the part of the bike in english.
I already know for brake (that's the "freins", do not say the s) and gear and saddlebag but I learnt today pillion, which we translate in french as "passager" or "sac de sable" (SDS) which means the person which can give you grip enough for your bike but not too heavy to keep the speed and balance on.
Needless to say that, as a petite, I can't really have a good pillion, I mean no heavy male at least (that will be the end for the dateless I think):wari::wari:! But I hae always been called good pillion myself!
I always dreaded to have a heavy pillion and the bike goes up down (arghh what is the word for this, you know as if the back of the bike is much more heavy than the front so the top is getting up like, like uhh like....I don't know.
But sometimes having a man with me can be very useful espcially when I need someone to lift my bike or when I am tired, men can be useful sometimes :whistle::whistle::whistle:

[Mom]

Welcome to KB. The best things come in little packages :D

[Quasi]

Bonjour Marigami and welcome to KB. Its a lovely place where you are going to meet all sorts of interesting and unusual people, and maybe even a few "she bikers". You have capitivated us already with your interesting translations:sunny:

[NighthawkNZ]

Thank you for your warm welcome.
And I feel terribly sorry for my mistakes as I reread my post, oops, I think my fingers got all mixed up and I typed too quickly !
And she-bikers, uhhh wasn't it the right word ? :Oops:
I have the feeling that in the future I will keep on making a fool of myself with my odd words...:yes:
So I think you have understood that I have a Zephyr, not a zephit (shame on me...).
Now it is 8.30 pm in France, making my dinner.
And I do not mind getting contacts, uhh I mean I will be happy to write and know more about NZ and bikers and so.
And I am going to read more thread on the forums in order to know what are the proper words for all the part of the bike in english.
I already know for brake (that's the "freins", do not say the s) and gear and saddlebag but I learnt today pillion, which we translate in french as "passager" or "sac de sable" (SDS) which means the person which can give you grip enough for your bike but not too heavy to keep the speed and balance on.
Needless to say that, as a petite, I can't really have a good pillion, I mean no heavy male at least (that will be the end for the dateless I think):wari:! But I hae always been called good pillion myself!
I always dreaded to have a heavy pillion and the bike goes up down (arghh what is the word for this, you know as if the back of the bike is much more heavy than the front so the top is getting up like, like uhh like....I don't know.
But sometimes having a man with me can be very useful espcially when I need someone to lift my bike or when I am tired, men can be useful sometimes :whistle:

Having a to heavy pillion on the back can unstable the bike, as there is more weight on the back than over the front, this means the bike is very light in the steering (thats not a good thing). Pillion and rider have to have a bit of trust with each other...

Oh welcome to the site, sorry about my bad english and it is my first language... :sweatdrop:crazy: (there is a lot of good info on this site, and alot more bullshit so be warry of that ;) )



I have the feeling that in the future I will keep on making a fool of myself with my odd words...

There a lot of people on here do worse... (at time even me)

"She biker" made me laugh (in a good way) it wasn't wrong terminoligy, but probably not quiet right either, female biker...

[sels1]

Bonjour! Welcome to KB.


And I feel terribly sorry for my mistakes as I reread my post, :
Dont worry, you are easier to understand than some people on here!

[marigami]

I do agree with you as for the trust between biker and ones pillion, that's the most important this relationship.
And she-biker, well shame on me (blushing everywhere...).
I mean that I am a girl and a biker!
And I feel this is so very unfair as I think here in NZ you can still find easily 200 and even 400.
I can't tell how difficult it have been for me to find my 400 Bandit, we do not even have 200 around anymore or only kind of vintage bikes as are my zephyr and bandit (I mean for the french they are).
So either you are tall (well taller than me, but THIS is an easy thing...) either you do not have bike at all, or only 125, and with limited speed.
Arrghh
And sorry what does mean the steering?
i like mecanics too as my bikes being quite "old" I must very often do the maintenance myself or with the help of friends.
I have so much questions to ask but I don't know where I could post them and well I do feel now a bit shy, to make the first step in a thread...
But I do like the mecanics forum, it is very interesting.

[naphazoline]

Welcome onboard KiwiBiker Marigami.:yes:

Great to have more international bikers,and more she-bikers too. :)

[BiK3RChiK]

Hi marigami, Welcome to Kiwibiker. Don't be shy! It's always good to see another biker chick...

[marigami]

Well thanks again.
But I did already post some messages, yes I did it !
And I would like to introduce you to our french built and created bikes which I am very proud of!
But I don't know whether it will interest someone and where to post that thread.
They are just... beautiful ohhhhh I so wished I could be taller to be able to have one (and to have much more money too as they are expensive but really worth it!).
May I ask the admin whether and wher to post this ? I don't know.

[CookMySock]

Marigami, if you would like to come here for a biker holiday them you must!

NZ is really great place to ride, and you will see Kiwis are very helpful. It will be easy for you to buy a bike and sell it when you are finished with it.

You could reply and post pictures in this thread if you choose. There is no problem with that.

Steve

[marigami]

Marigami, if you would like to come here for a biker holiday them you must

Steve

How I whish I could but for the time being noway for me !
But I do hope I will.
The problem will be to find a bike low enough for me to actually ride it !!

So here are some links and pictures of our fabulous french made bikes, called VOXAN.
Here is the wikipedia link (although the french one is more complete).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voxan

And some pictures :

http://www.voxan.com/voxan/gamme.asp

You can have the technicals by clicking on each bike.

I actually fall in love with the Cafe Racer. Sorry I do not know how to actually insert the picture...oops !
Those bikes are beautiful, I did ride them all ..while I was at a show but of course never will be able to ride them in real sigh !
They are quite expensive but, to make comparison, say they are a bit like Triumph range, and Triumph are very good bikes.
We are few in France to really know and like them but very enjying them and they are really recognized as being very good bikes.
The only thing is that we are so used to japanese and german bikes than getting in between is not an easy thing.
Well and there have been an other previous french made bike, called BFG.
It was actually made with the engine of ...a car, a french car.
So here it is : http://www.motoplanete.com/BFG/BFG.php

Engine was 1300 and I can tell you that they are very solid and useful bikes, one of my friend has one and a side car (ehh is that the right word by the way?).

Those are the most recent french made bikes.
Of course there have been others french made bikes famous during from the 30's to the end of the 50's.
And bikers are still using them, I mean the ones that are passionates about them.
This is true they are great.
They are "vintage" bikes.

[dogsnbikes]

Welcome Marigami......your fit right in here.. I use to see alot of bikes in Marseille in the early 90's around the old port outside cafe's alot like what you see here now,

Have fun here:yes:

[Cheshire Cat]

I always dreaded to have a heavy pillion and the bike goes up down (arghh what is the word for this, you know as if the back of the bike is much more heavy than the front so the top is getting up like, like uhh like....I don't know.


Wheelies? :lol:

Welcome to the site!!:rockon:

[CookMySock]

How I whish I could but for the time being noway for me !
But I do hope I will. The problem will be to find a bike low enough for me to actually ride it !!

I actually fall in love with the Cafe Racer.Yes the Cafe Racer is beautiful. New cafe racers here are expensive also, and the only way is for many people to build one.

There are lots of bandit 400 bikes here.. some of them quite cheap.. so if you fit the bandit ok then you could just get one of those.

One day you must come. I have a frenchy mate in my town, Florent, (I can hardly understand him hehe) and I hope he will show me France one day, but he is not very interested so far - maybe I talk too much! :crazy:

Steve

[dogsnbikes]

, - maybe I talk too much! :crazy:

Steve

you never steve :rofl: somebody had too

[vifferman]

Bonjour, Marigami! :wavey:
Your English is very, very good. As some have said, it's better than that of many of the so-called English speakers on KiwiBiker.
As for "she-bike", that is perfectly acceptable and understandable, but "biker babe" is better, although not as grammatically correct.

What part of France are you from? I had a quick visit there last September (Nice, Lyon, Avignon, Paris, Calais) and we are going back next year, to Paris and the Alsace region. "La Belle France", indeed! C'est tres jolie!

[marigami]

Ohh thank you very much for looking at Voxan, I though nobody would..
hmm am I too naive aor candid I wonder and I am sorry if I am, say it is because of the language...
Good to know there are a lot of 4OO Bandit here, they are hard to find in France.
And they are perfect for me, but to find some of it when it needs to be fix is really quite a story omph !

Thank yo also Cheshire Cat (marvelous name indeed) for the wheelies, yes that's it.
And where do you live Dangerous Bastard (sorry but this sounds really weird to write and to say, I do prefer your real name, if it is yours)? I thought several times to actually settle in NZ and started to but I actually do not know whether I'll could find a job.
Well I do not mind changing as I did before but I need just to cross the final step !
And if YOU come in France, don't forget to get a bike and go for a nice ride in the mountains, with small roads with twist and turns all the way long till you nearly feel fed up and keep wondering "when does this finish, it is too much"...
That's the best way to actually learn how to perfectly drive, you have to know your bike and yourself, not to go at full speed but always play with the gear (I hope I do use the wold well), 1 then second, third, then back to second, four for a while but beware of the turn..
Tiring, demanding but so much fun !

[marigami]

Bonjour, Marigami! :wavey:
Your English is very, very good. As some have said, it's better than that of many of the so-called English speakers on KiwiBiker.
As for "she-bike", that is perfectly acceptable and understandable, but "biker babe" is better, although not as grammatically correct.

What part of France are you from? I had a quick visit there last September (Nice, Lyon, Avignon, Paris, Calais) and we are going back next year, to Paris and the Alsace region. "La Belle France", indeed! C'est tres jolie!


Hello, thanks for your french !
I am currently leaving in the suburbs of Paris but I lived for a while in Normandy (Le Havre) with my ex BF and we had some nice rides there and in other parts of France.
Well now I need to learn the technical terms for the bike in english otherwise I am going to be lost trying to follow you.
Are they a lot of straight roads in NZ or do you also have twist and turn roads (sorry I have a lack of vocabulary here, hope I make myself understand)?
I really want to know more about the country and the way bikers ride and live here, because I suppose the geography of NZ might be quite different from say Europe ?!!
But I already know wheather can be very cold, isnt it ?I saw there is a gathering (we call it in french une concentr, short way for concentration) very famous during cold weather.
Is that a bit like the famous The Elephants in Germany ? Never been there but wish I could.

[dogsnbikes]

http://www.engmore.com/home.php link to another french bike one I have like for a while

[marigami]

Waouh thanks for the link... I didn't know them.
I must say they look very good, they are jewels. But I wonder how one can actually ride them on a long term journey ?
They look like kind of custom bike, I actually wonder if ther all french made (I mean engine and all) or if for example only the frame is french, I must find out.
And they are all V engine I mean the engine is not parralel to the road but V and aside (arghhh please give some words in english !!!:crybaby::crybaby::crybaby::angry2::angry2:).
And they are very distinctly built I mean no soft curves here they are YOUR bike and no one else.
And which was th bike you had actually ?

Actually this experience for naked strong french bikes failed.

[Cheshire Cat]

Thank yo also Cheshire Cat (marvelous name indeed) for the wheelies, yes that's it.

Thankyou :D :scooter:

[avgas]

http://www.lazareth.fr/

would love to meet this god

[marigami]

http://www.lazareth.fr/

would love to meet this god

Wouh I like what it did with the Buell....and the Vmax..; well all of them.
Maybe when I'm rich I'll ask him to build a custom bike for me at my height...
Kidding but not so much I wish I could.
Well thank you boys for those links you gave me something to know today.

[vifferman]

Are they a lot of straight roads in NZ or do you also have twist and turn roads (sorry I have a lack of vocabulary here, hope I make myself understand)?
Yes, perfectly understandable.
Some roads here are straight, but many twist and turn, especially in hilly country or around the coastline. Outside of the major cities, New Zealand is not very populated, so the main highways are only dual carriageway (one lane going in each direction). Motorways with two lanes or more are found only near the major cities.

The geography of New Zealand is relatively young, and shaped by erosion and volcanic activity, so it does not have the weathered, rounded topography of parts of Europe. However, it has the Southern Alps as the backbone of the South Island, so this gives it both a similar topography, as well as similar weather to Europe, with a more continental climate (cold in winter, hot and dry in summer). However, most of New Zealand has a maritime climate, very changeable, frequent rain showers, and mild climate. Here in Auckland, for example, the sea is very close on both sides of the land, so there is frequent rain (thought not often heavy), and the temperature ranges from a maximum of maybe 26 or 27C in summer, to hardly ever below 0 C in winter.

[marigami]

Thank you very much for this Vifferman and your description.
All right then you from now on I try to get some spare money (sniff no more shopping... joking) to come over NZ and try to have nice rides.
Here currently we are at the beginning of autum temperature are still quite mild for this time of year.
But I long to be in real winter time which is not so common nowdays.
I do not have a car so I ride my bike on day to day basis, but not so much since I live in Paris : first because riding in Paris can be very dangerous (cars and bikers can be very crazy) and next because it is not so very handy for me to get all my stuff as a biker and then get changed. And riding with skirt and heels is not very good....
Well it is time for me to go to bed, it is 12 pm for me here and I am really VERY happy to be here and to have found this forum and to share with NZ bikers.
I wish you all a good night (or day?) and see you tomorrow.
I still have so much to learn and know.

[MikeL]

Bonsoir Marigami et bienvenue sur KB. Tout le monde ici parle couramment français, seulement ils ne veulent pas le dire parce qu'ils s'amusent à se moquer de vos efforts en anglais...
Sinon, s'il y a des choses que vous ne comprenez pas, écrivez en français. Il y a au moins un de nous qui pourra vous répondre.

[Ypawa]

Kia ora marigami & welcome to kb -hope ya enjoy kb and its members :sunny:

[george formby]

Kia Ora,
Check these petit honeys out from across the channel. http://www.mac-motorcycles.com/
I rode around France on my UK based TDM 850 a couple of years ago. Mulhouse (Alsace is gorgeous & so is Kronenburg), Saumur, Bayeux & a few places in between. A beautiful country & I have to admit when I tried to use my schoolboy french, friendly, helpful people. A similar laid back view to life as Kiwis too. The police WRX's on the motorway were an eye opener & the Peage's cost a fortune when the sat nav tells lies. I may be over this winter for another trip & to visit some more boulangere, nom nom nom. If you can ride in Paris you can ride anywhere!:eek5:

[The Stranger]

Thank you for your warm welcome.
And I feel terribly sorry for my mistakes as I reread my post, oops, I think my fingers got all mixed up and I typed too quickly !
And she-bikers, uhhh wasn't it the right word ? :Oops::Oops:
I have the feeling that in the future I will keep on making a fool of myself with my odd words...:yes::yes:


You may find this French-Kiwi translator (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php?u=10029) helpful.

[CookMySock]

Ohh thank you very much for looking at Voxan, I though nobody would.. It's a very nice bike, and very stylish, like all things French.

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Steve

[pete376403]

But I already know wheather can be very cold, isnt it ?I saw there is a gathering (we call it in french une concentr, short way for concentration) very famous during cold weather.
Is that a bit like the famous The Elephants in Germany ? Never been there but wish I could.
The Brass Monkey Rally (Raid) www.brassmonkeyrally.org.nz is probably the biggest but there are others - cold kiwi for example.

Not very cold, not since global warming kicked off, anyway:rolleyes:

[marigami]

Bonsoir Marigami et bienvenue sur KB. Tout le monde ici parle couramment français, seulement ils ne veulent pas le dire parce qu'ils s'amusent à se moquer de vos efforts en anglais...
Sinon, s'il y a des choses que vous ne comprenez pas, écrivez en français. Il y a au moins un de nous qui pourra vous répondre.

Merci beaucoup pour ce massage, j'espère que personne en tous les cas ne se moquera trop.... En tous les cas, si j'ai des soucis de traduction, je viendrais vers vous.
Merci encore.

[marigami]

You may find this French-Kiwi translator (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php?u=10029) helpful.
Thank you very much this is very handy indeed....

[howdamnhard]

Welcome Marigami , don't worry about your English, it is better than my French. It's great listening to you and getting your perspective of biking in another country. Interesting about the avialability of various Cc ratings and types of bikes.
Just how short are you,surely there must be more bikes out there that you would fit ? It's good that you are hands on with looking after your bikes.
The car drivers are just as crazy over here and we have a wide variety of rodes just like France has.
Take care and stay in contact.

[marigami]

Welcome Marigami , don't worry about your English, it is better than my French. It's great listening to you and getting your perspective of biking in another country. Interesting about the avialability of various Cc ratings and types of bikes.
Just how short are you,surely there must be more bikes out there that you would fit ? It's good that you are hands on with looking after your bikes.
The car drivers are just as crazy over here and we have a wide variety of rodes just like France has.
Take care and stay in contact.


Hi thanks for your message and yes I stay in contact.
I am very petite (i don't like the word short) 4feet 11. So it was a big deal to find bikes not too heavy and low enought for me but I did find them!
An other challenge was my driving licence and the training for it: very very difficult to find a teacher willing to teach be (they did not trust my abilities,a woman so petite bla bla) so I had to fight and to really prove myself I was worth it.
Well I succeed but pff what a hard time.
How is the way you actually learn to ride here in NZ? Do you have dofferent types of driving licence for different types of bikes ?

[CookMySock]

How is the way you actually learn to ride here in NZ? Do you have dofferent types of driving licence for different types of bikes ?To start with, everyone must past two simple tests. One test is about the road rules, and the other test is make sure we can use the brakes and not wobble and fall off in a puddle. It is very simple. After this, we must only ride bikes with a small engine (under 250cc) and we have to keep our speed low, which means we should not ride on the motorways. After 12-18 months we may apply for another test which tests to see if we are competent motorcyclist, then we may carry passengers and ride larger cc bikes. That is the simple description of it.

There is no training required, and we are not taught how to brake, steer, and swerve as they do in France. There are many bike crashes here in NZ because of this, and I think NZ should use the French training system.

Steve

[MyGSXF]

Hi Marigami

Welcome to KB!!! awesome to have another chicky babe on board!! :2thumbsup

I live in Nelson, in the top of the South Island, Tis known as being a slice of paradise here! Here's some pics of a ride over our famous Takaka Hill, to Golden Bay.. to show you what the area looks like :woohoo:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=969684&postcount=12

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=969692&postcount=13

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=969705&postcount=14

You'll have to save up & come over & check it out for yourself!!! :banana:

[marigami]

Hi Marigami

Welcome to KB!!! awesome to have another chicky babe on board!! :2thumbsup

I live in Nelson, in the top of the South Island, Tis known as being a slice of paradise here! Here's some pics of a ride over our famous Takaka Hill, to Golden Bay.. to show you what the area looks like :woohoo:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=969684&postcount=12

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=969692&postcount=13


http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=969705&postcount=14

You'll have to save up & come over & check it out for yourself!!! :banana:

Wouhh beautiful pictures, that look great lucky you.
So weel I'll have to find the few bad pictures I still have to show you some of my trip in France, particularly one in Auvergne (this is the centre of France, quite moutainous and nice old twist and turn road yummy).
And yes you're right I already started to save money to come over.. this very morning. I save by not buying my usual hot chocolate before going to the office, shame !!

[marigami]

To start with, everyone must past two simple tests. One test is about the road rules, and the other test is make sure we can use the brakes and not wobble and fall off in a puddle. It is very simple. After this, we must only ride bikes with a small engine (under 250cc) and we have to keep our speed low, which means we should not ride on the motorways. After 12-18 months we may apply for another test which tests to see if we are competent motorcyclist, then we may carry passengers and ride larger cc bikes. That is the simple description of it.

There is no training required, and we are not taught how to brake, steer, and swerve as they do in France. There are many bike crashes here in NZ because of this, and I think NZ should use the French training system.

Steve

France might not be the best training system (by the way they are trying to modify it and to make it even more difficult..in order to limit also the -too-high rate of young bikers accidents and injuries, good luck!) but it is not so bad.
So there are 2 different ways to get your biker driving licence.
One : you are a... car driver with your driving licence full and with all your points (yes there are 12 points on your driving licence and if you have accidents or fees, your points are deduced) and you are driving for more than 2 years...
So you can have a 125 cc without mandatory training session at all (but some more intelligent do have some lessons nevertheless....).
This is very stupid in my opinion and cause too many accidents because some people does not even know the bikes (or scooter by the way), does not know how to break or else.

Second : you want to drive a bike but are under 18, you can still have your bike driving licence but you MUST have a torough training session, first with code training and the test, then with lessons on how actually drive a bike. And then the exam itself with differents steps with A, B, C or D.

Those steps are : driving test within the limit of a special area with special "things" (sorry lack of vocabulary again)I mean special way of driving your bike : slowly, faster, breaking in a sudden, turn, move your bike with and without the engine on, lifting the bike from the ground, moving the bike ahead and in the reverse.
Then you have several questions on the mechanics and how to behave propoerly in several occasions.
And the last one is driving in urban area and in the country (when possible). All those steps with the inspector.
If You have one C on one of those 3 steps, you fall. So beware.
If you pass, you can drive a 125cc.

Third : you are over 18 years, either driving a 125 cc for some years, a car (herrk) or just starting.
You can then start the same path (I mean the code test if you eventually did not already have it) and the training lessons which are even tougher and more complete. I mean the whole process is even more complicated, as you are supposed to drive, when in possession of your bike driving lesson, a 5OO cc although your speed would be limited at 90 kmh and only 34 ch.
As you noticed in France, 250 and 400 are very rare. So you start directly with 500 cc.
after 6 months (I am not sure now, don't remember), you can change your bike for something more than 500.
That's why a lot of stupid head too young have too much accidents because after the 500 cc they choose something too powerful for them !
Sorry for this very loooooong post.

[CookMySock]

There is much much more training in the french system. I think it is far better than the NZ system.

Young boys are always going to have accidents on bikes. That is what boys are like. If they can't do it on bikes, they will do it some other way.

We go to the track to do racing, and then behave on the roads.

Steve

[howdamnhard]

Hi thanks for your message and yes I stay in contact.
I am very petite (i don't like the word short) 4feet 11. So it was a big deal to find bikes not too heavy and low enought for me but I did find them!
An other challenge was my driving licence and the training for it: very very difficult to find a teacher willing to teach be (they did not trust my abilities,a woman so petite bla bla) so I had to fight and to really prove myself I was worth it.
Well I succeed but pff what a hard time.
How is the way you actually learn to ride here in NZ? Do you have dofferent types of driving licence for different types of bikes ?


Well what you lack in size you make up for in determination,well done for sticking to your guns and getting your bike licence.:clap:
Petite is a good word ( only if you are not as wide as you are short:lol:)
Here in N.Z. you have to do a basic handling course then a theorectical learners test. Then your on your learners for 6 months(if your old like me , longer if your younger), then you do a practical test and get your restricted for another 6 months and finally a full licence after another practical.
Only one license for all bikes but can't ride anything bigger than 250cc until you get your full.

[bezajel]

Bienvenue Marigami, (et je m'excuse en avance aussi, parce que votre anglais est mille fois mieux que mon français, mais j'essaerai néanmoins :shutup:).

C'est toujours bon de voir de nouvelles 'biker chicks' ici (c quoi le mot pour 'she-biker' on français?). Je vois que vous avez déja trouvé le forum Biker Angels.

Si vous vous trouvera un jour en Nouvelle Zélande, (prés de Wellington) je serais heureuse de vous rencontrer, et.... .... show you around! (pardon, je ne sais pas traduire cela!). :)

à plus!! :sunny:

[marigami]

Bienvenue Marigami, (et je m'excuse en avance aussi, parce que votre anglais est mille fois mieux que mon français, mais j'essaerai néanmoins :shutup:).

C'est toujours bon de voir de nouvelles 'biker chicks' ici (c quoi le mot pour 'she-biker' on français?). Je vois que vous avez déja trouvé le forum Biker Angels.

Si vous vous trouvera un jour en Nouvelle Zélande, (prés de Wellington) je serais heureuse de vous rencontrer, et.... .... show you around! (pardon, je ne sais pas traduire cela!). :)

à plus!! :sunny:

Hi;

Many thanks for your answer and your effort.
Et votre français est très bon, franchement, très bien répondu !

Happy to be there on this forum and to be able to share some points of view (and improve my english by the way!).
I am looking forward to meet all of you or at least to be able to discuss and enjoy time with you.

[Zuki lover]

Welcome to KB and sure you will enjoy NZ when you arrive:woohoo: