Endurance race 22/11 Kaitoke definite [Archive]

nudemetalz

13th October 2009, 11:48

Alrighties.

THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING.

9.00am scrutineer
9.30am rider's briefing
9.35am practice
2 or 3 A & B races 10 laps each clockwise.

Lunch 30 mins

2 hour endurance race running clockwise direction - can ride on your own or have 2 riders.

Must have a minimum of one pit stop - sole rider jumps off - does one lap around his bike and jumps back on (would equate to same time as second rider jumping on)

Bike must be stopped at pitlane, pushed through pits and started again on dummy grid.

A & B riders will run together as the track is big enough to accomodate this.
However, as this is a fun event, please ensure the A riders be considerate of the B riders when passing.

Then if anyone has energy left, we do another couple of races afterwards in reverse direction.

Prizegiving and drinks at the end of day.

Kendog

13th October 2009, 12:38

Sounds like a good day to me.

Trudes and I will be riding Rangi :woohoo:

Trudes

13th October 2009, 12:45

nudemetalz

13th October 2009, 13:34

A rider or 2 have mentioned they want to do the whole 2 hours solo so I guess we can just make it however people want it.
However, would be good if the A riders team up with the B's and I'll strongly suggest that at briefing.

Skunk

13th October 2009, 13:44

Hey to make it fun, instead of solo riders running around their bike, how about they ride in, dismount and push bike through pit, eat a chocolate fish, remount and continue. I take it we're not having mixed A and B grade teams?
A chocolate fish is what you give everyone else when you crash - if they see it. If you try to hide it and get caught it's two chocolate fish to everyone.

hmurphy

13th October 2009, 16:09

I'm pretty keen to do the 2 hours by myself for the track time! Gotta keep improving! I don't mind doing a lap around my bike or eating a chocolate fish, sounds good to me. However I don't think I will be able to afford a million chocolate fish for the crashing I intend to be doing haha.

I might see if Dad wants to have a few laps of the endurance, get him hooked on buckets too. He sounded like he might be keen.

Str8 Jacket

13th October 2009, 16:14

Sounds good, might have to try and rope Malcolm into it...

Trudes

13th October 2009, 17:41

Just remember kids, endurance races are all about ENDURANCE, something that alludes many a young eager man ;)

speedpro

13th October 2009, 17:46

Just remember kids, endurance races are all about ENDURANCE, something that alludes many a young eager man ;)

The 2-hour in Auckland is a 2-hour sprint race. If you pace yourself you aren't going to get anywhere. Going by personal experience pacing yourself doesn't seem to reduce the risk of crashing either.

Str8 Jacket

13th October 2009, 17:48

Just remember kids, endurance races are all about ENDURANCE, something that alludes many a young eager man ;)

*ahem* is that a bit of jealousy I detect... :nono:

:laugh:

Trudes

13th October 2009, 17:50

Us slow fucks (apart from Sully60 on a borrowed bucket) were the only Wellingtonions to finish the BOB last year. Personally I'll be shocked if half the bikes entered will finish a two hour sprint (remember we don't have a whole heap of FXRs down here) :dodge:

Trudes

13th October 2009, 17:54

*ahem* is that a bit of jealousy I detect... :nono:

:laugh:

refer to my last post. There's no prizes for not finishing (or starting) :Pokey:

Str8 Jacket

13th October 2009, 17:55

Trudes

13th October 2009, 17:57

On the flip side, I was the only one to "go hard" during the warm up lap! :rofl:

Yeah, you and Dangerous!!! :laugh:

Str8 Jacket

13th October 2009, 17:58

Yeah, you and Dangerous!!! :laugh:

I did it for the drugs and especially the cast. Its not dangerous' fault that he's a ginga....

gav

13th October 2009, 18:17

:innocent: Classic!!

richban

13th October 2009, 18:17

Str8 Jacket

13th October 2009, 18:19

Will there be any Drug testing??

U offering mate?

gav

13th October 2009, 18:24

I can test some drugs if you want? :rockon:

nudemetalz

13th October 2009, 19:15

I shall have a rubber glove on to do some "testing also........ :buggerd:

richban

13th October 2009, 19:22

U offering mate?

Drugs no they are all mine.

But I will let you in on a secret don't tell anyone, but caffeine is a performance enhancing drug. I get 20mins of super human strength from one espresso. So I figure some sort of caffeine drip for the 2 hours and everything is sorted.

hmurphy

13th October 2009, 19:39

Drugs no they are all mine.

But I will let you in on a secret don't tell anyone, but caffeine is a performance enhancing drug. I get 20mins of super human strength from one espresso. So I figure some sort of caffeine drip for the 2 hours and everything is sorted.

Or do it the proper way and go for runs! Another advantage is you won't need to pull over every 10mins to take a slash from all the energy drink.

koba

13th October 2009, 20:09

Sounds good, might have to try and rope Malcolm into it...

:rolleyes: If thats what floats your boat...

fi5hy

13th October 2009, 21:25

Its a really good idea if you can get a second rider from out side the bucket group, everyone knows someone that has a road bike or race bike that looks down their nose at the bucket seen, Now is the time to pull them in for a ride a get them hooked, ya never know they might just ride you to the victory ???? :clap::clap::first:

Sketchy_Racer

13th October 2009, 21:33

Sounds great.

After 30mins in the rain at Kaitoki I was done in. So 2 hours buy yourself would be a mammoth effort.

Will there be any Drug testing??

Maybe instead of a chocolate fish it should be 5 short blacks.

Common man grow a pair!! Don't worry, once you sort your throttle you will be sweet man it'll be a walk in the park.

Its a really good idea if you can get a second rider from out side the bucket group, everyone knows someone that has a road bike or race bike that looks down their nose at the bucket seen, Now is the time to pull them in for a ride a get them hooked, ya never know they might just ride you to the victory ???? :clap::clap::first:

So who are you bringing in to partner with you fish?

fi5hy

13th October 2009, 21:35

We Willy Wintel

Skunk

13th October 2009, 21:37

I shall have a rubber glove on to do some "testing also........ :buggerd:
I've heard that about you...

Skunk

13th October 2009, 21:39

We Willy Wintel
The Bucket racer from way back? Hardly "outside Buckets" :lol:
I'll have to ask Stroud this weekend if he's keen...

fi5hy

13th October 2009, 21:42

I hope your not classing Willy with stroudy

Skunk

13th October 2009, 21:46

I hope your not classing Willy with stroudy
No, just doing the one-up-man-ship thingy... after all, Stroudy has raced a Bucket 2 hour before.

Better bring a lot of choco fish with Wintle...

xr-rider

14th October 2009, 20:52

i don't have a bucket anymore so if anyone wants a partner im free.

Str8 Jacket

15th October 2009, 05:58

i don't have a bucket anymore so if anyone wants a partner im free.

Try nzdating mate. You may have more luck there... ;)

fi5hy

15th October 2009, 07:38

You should call in Flame to ride with you Hels

quallman1234

15th October 2009, 09:29

You should call in Flame to ride with you Hels

That would be cool! :headbang:

Str8 Jacket

15th October 2009, 11:20

You should call in Flame to ride with you Hels

I wish!!! She dont ride "little" bikes... Though tempting her with a bottle of red wine may work... :whistle:

fi5hy

15th October 2009, 17:29

We all have ridden little bikes before, mind you that is the normal attitude until they actually get out their and have a go, then its ha call me next time you have one of these events please

Kendog

15th October 2009, 17:33

We all have ridden little bikes before, mind you that is the normal attitude until they actually get out their and have a go, then its ha call me next time you have one of these events please

Yep, ask Garry (Tazman)

xr-rider

15th October 2009, 18:51

Try nzdating mate. You may have more luck there... ;)

haha. ok, if someone wants a team mate for racing i am free.

F5 Dave

16th October 2009, 09:21

I wish!!! She dont ride "little" bikes... Though tempting her with a bottle of red wine may work... :whistle:

Yeah she was supposed to turn up last time for a go on the fiddy. Must have been awake all night worried about the awesome power so was too scared to show.:lol:

marsheng

18th October 2009, 11:26

Can anyone point me to a map of the track or a Google earth coordinate ?

Slingshot

18th October 2009, 11:43

marsheng

18th October 2009, 12:55

Is there a map of the track or a Google coordinate I can view. May be a double post. Still getting used to this forum.

nudemetalz

19th October 2009, 21:00

Okay, came up with a brain wave today.

Decided that we're going to use the chicane for the endurance race, even though we're going clockwise.

This is to facilitate those bikes leaving the pits enough room to rejoin the track. We have to bear in mind we have B-grade as well as A-Grade in this race and I want this to be as safe as possible.

Here's a basic pic of how it works...
<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v677/turbo_NZ/?action=view&current=Kaitokeendurance.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/turbo_NZ/Kaitokeendurance.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

Grumble, grumble, grumble from those fast riders not being able to take the fast corner onto the uphill straight, but....tough !!!!!

Kendog

19th October 2009, 22:05

That is a good idea.

Trudes

20th October 2009, 08:28

That's probably a good idea, although I'm not entirely sure it's necessary. We'll need someone on the gate to open it for riders going out and then close it again, so they can judge when the coast is clear and let the riders coming onto the track at a time when it's safe, no?

F5 Dave

20th October 2009, 08:49

I agree with Trudes. There will have to be a person on the gate anyway and if you are going as per normal you are more likely to notice someone at the gate.

nudemetalz

20th October 2009, 09:09

So my brainwave is actually a stinkwave?

Trudes

20th October 2009, 09:45

no no, it was good thinking Nudeys, just don't think we need to change what we're used to when it can be easily controlled. We're all big kids, we can exercise a little patience while the fat controller makes us wait til the coast is clear. Let's face it, each bike should only need to reenter the track once during the race, so not a big deal.

nudemetalz

20th October 2009, 10:14

I'm thinking being a 2-hour race, there may be some entering the pits more than once, but if you're all confident that it can work how it is, then we'll just leave it at that then.

Trudes

20th October 2009, 10:30

Do we have the use of transponders for the day?

nudemetalz

20th October 2009, 11:03

Unsure, going to get hold of Peter Cartwright and see what we can borrow/hire.

fi5hy

20th October 2009, 16:13

you can look at it another way their is three more corners per lap????:banana:

Trudes

20th October 2009, 18:10

I just think that by having a gate person controlling track re-entry to the track it'll be safer in the long run than people re-entering willy nilly, so even by blocking the corner off you still have people entering the track so makes little difference. JMO

Mudflaps

20th October 2009, 18:31

Is it in the rules/ethics of the endurance race to have one person doing half of a race on two different bikes? We have two bikes and three riders. Can we do that?

Trudes

20th October 2009, 18:52

How would you work that? One rider rides one bike, jumps off second rider jumps on that bike and the first rider jumps onto another bike that someone else has just come in on? Is that right? Why not see if you can get one more team mate and do an hour each, two bikes.

mossy1200

20th October 2009, 19:57

all4A50s

28th October 2009, 04:48

i don't have a bucket anymore so if anyone wants a partner im free.

I'll be bringing out Wani as well so there is a spare bike there if your interested.

I am teaming up with AJ from Weltec. Should make it a good race.

I'll also talk to Phil at Weltec about borrowing their bucket as well.

I do like the idea of 3 riders, two bikes. Can we include some sort of confidence course to be completed by the riders during the pit stop like;

come into pits.
dismount
drink a coffee
cigarette (either real or lolly)
pay the extra ACC fees
bribe an official
another coffee
bathroom stop

nudemetalz

28th October 2009, 08:10

I'll be bringing out Wani as well so there is a spare bike there if your interested.

I am teaming up with AJ from Weltec. Should make it a good race.

I'll also talk to Phil at Weltec about borrowing their bucket as well.

I do like the idea of 3 riders, two bikes. Can we include some sort of confidence course to be completed by the riders during the pit stop like;

come into pits.
dismount
drink a coffee
cigarette (either real or lolly)
pay the extra ACC fees
bribe an official
another coffee
bathroom stop

and make this a 6-hour race...... :zzzz: :rofl:

Skunk

28th October 2009, 21:28

I like the coffee idea.

Do you have to stop for it though?

nudemetalz

28th October 2009, 21:47

I can get you a tall black or short white if you want, Skunk.... :rofl:

hmurphy

28th October 2009, 21:49

As long as it doesn't mean the tyres go cold I'm sweet to do whatever haha. Press ups? Run laps? Do a 5 second burn out (minimum) then head back out? I will be doing the endurance by myself which I am definitely looking forward to! The new front sprocket should give me a little bit more punch and the new rear slick should make for less slide action too.

nudemetalz

28th October 2009, 21:58

I have a couple of ideas at the moment for what should be done at the COMPULSORY pitstop(s). This will be announced at rider's briefing, just so I can be a bastard !! :devil2::jerry:

However, if you have some good (sensible) ideas, PM me them through.

Trudes

29th October 2009, 06:00

I can get you a tall black or short white if you want, Skunk.... :rofl:
I'll have a tall black :blip::confused:

I have a couple of ideas at the moment for what should be done at the COMPULSORY pitstop(s). This will be announced at rider's briefing, just so I can be a bastard !! :devil2::jerry:

However, if you have some good (sensible) ideas, PM me them through.
This activity during the compulsory stop is just for the Heros doing it by themselves eh? To make their stop around the same amount of time as a rider change, right?

nudemetalz

29th October 2009, 07:39

This activity during the compulsory stop is just for the Heros doing it by themselves eh? To make their stop around the same amount of time as a rider change, right?

Of course it is. Can't have them having an unfair advantage, not that they'll make 2 hours on their own..... :chase: :jerry:

hmurphy

29th October 2009, 10:07

Of course it is. Can't have them having an unfair advantage, not that they'll make 2 hours on their own..... :chase: :jerry:

Are there even many of us doing it solo? Hah... we will see, Chris

xr-rider

29th October 2009, 20:56

I'll be bringing out Wani as well so there is a spare bike there if your interested

im keen. it will be good to be back on a bucket

xr-rider

30th October 2009, 20:17

how much?

mossy1200

6th November 2009, 20:54

Looks like I found possible ride with fi5hy so I have started my training .No excess beers(A dozen is one serve)definition of excess is 2 serves.
Low calorie sauce only(Tuimatoe).Not really sure if its low calorie but lets just pretend it could be.
Regular exercise.I have moved the couch further from the fridge.

Im in the best shape of my life.:wari:

More vic club action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw8Jmakzj8M

nudemetalz

9th November 2009, 11:27

Update for the endurance race:-

Pricing will be $40 per solo rider or $60 per team of 2 ($30 each).

Trudes

9th November 2009, 11:52

So that's $30 each for the 2 person team for the whole days racing? That's a good deal! :niceone:

nudemetalz

9th November 2009, 12:15

Yup, figured it would be an incentive for people to team up rather than being "super(wo)men".....

Trudes

9th November 2009, 12:18

Awesome! Now I just hope my team mate can nab a bike for the rest of the racing so she can get her full money's worth :banana:

Bert

9th November 2009, 20:40

We're in (CJ and myself), might actually have two bikes going too... though I swear I'm never going to attempt to weld up a chamber again.

on the side does anyone have carb jets to suit a mikuni TM28ss around 280-300 size (longer type)? or jet drills? she's still running a bit lean up top as far as i can figure out.
or my timing is way out (which would surprise me, but it looks right with the degree wheel and timing light).

F5 Dave

10th November 2009, 10:32

As a test try dropping out the main all together & start the bike. If it revs on full throttle the needle is the restriction & needs a thinner sharp tapered end. If it bogs by full then you'll be ok & just get some bigger jets.

Try running it up a steep hill & backing off the ignition so see if it makes a difference

xr-rider

10th November 2009, 18:06

Are there even many of us doing it solo? Hah... we will see, Chris

i will be doing it solo

Skunk

10th November 2009, 21:21

I may not be riding - in which case I'll be helping...

hmurphy

10th November 2009, 21:46

Oh howcome Andrew? You have to race mate!

Hilleye

10th November 2009, 21:47

Just moved to Wellington. Have Dangerous' old MB100 that I've brought up from Christchurch, but it needs a new rear slick. Will be turning up to watch, but will bring leathers etc in case anyone needs a co-rider for enduro. Will possibly bring bike so if someone has a slick (95/70 R17) they can get hold of or know is for sale I would be happy to hear from them. Or if someone needs a co-rider at this late stage and is prepared to accept an unknown quantity (I'm not super fast, but not super slow either. Don't know the circuit though) sing out as well.

hmurphy

10th November 2009, 22:12

I have a slick. I am replacing the slick on my bucket with a newer slick. It's still pretty good the one I am currently using. PM if you are interested

Hilleye

11th November 2009, 06:29

I have a slick. I am replacing the slick on my bucket with a newer slick. It's still pretty good the one I am currently using. PM if you are interested

Can't PM yet, not eough posts. Definitely keen on the tyre though.

Number One

11th November 2009, 18:30

Awesome! Now I just hope my team mate can nab a bike for the rest of the racing so she can get her full money's worth :banana:
If shit comes to shovel I will forego the other stuff no probs as $30 is still a good deal...hopefully poor Rangi survives with two bitches riding his arse!

Skunk

12th November 2009, 12:22

Oh howcome Andrew? You have to race mate!
Money - or the lack thereof...

nudemetalz

16th November 2009, 10:59

5 days to go........

Trudes

16th November 2009, 12:33

Yahhhhhh! Team Super Mega Dupa Bitch is ready and rearing to go, just been out for a practice session to check the tyres and we're all set! So loook out you stinky boys!:bleh:

Number One

16th November 2009, 15:49

Shouldn't that be 'Super Duper Mega Bitch' Trudes? ;)

Str8 Jacket

16th November 2009, 15:52

Go hard girls!!!!

:wari: :wari: :wari: :wari: :wari: :wari:

Trudes

16th November 2009, 17:03

Shouldn't that be 'Super Duper Mega Bitch' Trudes? ;)
:lol: I thought about that on my way to work and realised I put it the arseaboutface way, but hey, you and I can call ourselves whatever the fark we like eh?!:love:

Go hard girls!!!!

:wari: :wari: :wari: :wari: :wari: :wari:

Cheers chickidy!!:)

Str8 Jacket

16th November 2009, 17:06

hehe, you two will be sweet. 'Endurance' is the key word.... ;) :whistle:

Trudes

16th November 2009, 17:23

hehe, you two will be sweet. 'Endurance' is the key word.... ;) :whistle:

hehehe, are you implying that because the competition are men that they won't last 2 hours?:laugh:

Str8 Jacket

16th November 2009, 17:37

hehehe, are you implying that because the competition are men that they won't last 2 hours?:laugh:

Let's see if they can handle minutes first....

hmurphy

16th November 2009, 20:19

Phew the bike parts have pretty much been fixed up after yesterday and should be on the bike by Wednesday. Will be there on Sunday to kick some ass, or attempt to anyway

nudemetalz

20th November 2009, 07:10

Just had an email from Kartsport Welly. They asked me for approx. numbers of people attending as they'll be opening the shop.
Please ensure you utilise them rather than bringing your own food.

Kendog

20th November 2009, 07:24

Just had an email from Kartsport Welly. They asked me for approx. numbers of people attending as they'll be opening the shop.
Please ensure you utilise them rather than bringing your own food.

What are the approximate numbers?
I am really looking forward to this :woohoo:

nudemetalz

20th November 2009, 08:37

Well I figured about 25 bikes to 40 riders overall 60 odd people.

Should be a good day, weather forecast is okayish at this stage.

Kendog

20th November 2009, 11:35

Well I figured about 25 bikes to 40 riders overall 60 odd people.

Should be a good day, weather forecast is okayish at this stage.

Sweeeeeeet

Will we be using transponders?

nudemetalz

20th November 2009, 12:00

Unsure of that. I'll chat to Skunk about that.

Number One

20th November 2009, 17:21

two more sleeps to go!

Trudes

20th November 2009, 17:50

:woohoo::banana:

richban

20th November 2009, 20:31

Ready and keen. Bike is run in. (Started twice). Can't wait to do some laps.

I predict faultless engine performance and a glorious riding display. (for someone).

See you all on sunday.

Were we talking about this being an MNZ sanctioned event a one stage?

nudemetalz

21st November 2009, 12:01

No, just fun event.

just to remind :-

THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING.

9.00am scrutineer
9.30am rider's briefing
9.35am practice
2 or 3 A & B races 10 laps each clockwise.

Lunch 30 mins

(may have a couple of 5 lap A & B races if enough time )

2 hour endurance race running clockwise direction - can ride on your own or have 2 riders.

Must have a minimum of one pit stop - sole rider jumps off - does one lap around his bike and jumps back on (would equate to same time as second rider jumping on)

Bike must be stopped at pitlane, pushed through pits and started again on dummy grid.

A & B riders will run together as the track is big enough to accomodate this.
However, as this is a fun event, please ensure the A riders be considerate of the B riders when passing.

Then if anyone has energy left, we do another couple of races afterwards in reverse direction.

Prizegiving and drinks at the end of day.

MAKE SURE YOU ALL ATTEND THE PRIZE-GIVING. THERE WILL BE SOME SCOOTERAZZI-SPONSORED SPOT-PRIZES YOU MAY WIN !!!

all4A50s

21st November 2009, 15:21

tick tock:banana:

smell of buckets

followed by beer

what a nice way to spend the day.

hmurphy

21st November 2009, 16:54

I have been spending the whole day prepping the bike and my gear but I have a small problem. I haven't been successful in putting nylon on the front axle on each side of the forks. Because of the wings I have on the sides of the bike (you know what I'm talking about, the huge nylon blocks) I have never had the front axle dig into the ground in a crash. Ever. The rest of my bike is nyloned extremely well and has been crash tested many times and all that I seem to leave behind me in a crash are white lines from the nylon.

So basically, will I pass scruiteneering tomorrow without nylon on the front axle? The rest of the bike is more than race ready, it's crash ready. The bike meets all of the necessary requirements otherwise (and then some).

Cheers

nudemetalz

21st November 2009, 17:25

If you're confident it's okay, Hamish, then it'll be fine :)

hmurphy

21st November 2009, 17:44

Sweet cheers Chris. It has passed scruiteneering many times at Kaitoke and has been crash tested there many times, as recent as last Sunday in fact. See you all tomorrow, definitely looking forward to it!

nudemetalz

21st November 2009, 17:48

Me too,...as I listen to the hail on my roof.....:wacko:

quallman1234

22nd November 2009, 18:24

Here's some photo from today, unfortunately they turned out pretty soft.

Awesome event. Thanks to everybody involved running it especially Chris =), and Skunk for a bike to ride :2thumbsup.

<a href=http://img187.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=1001460h.jpg>Pictures Here</a>

Kendog

22nd November 2009, 19:13

Awesome day, awesome event. I had a blast.

Thanks to everyone that helped put it together and run the day.

Kendog

22nd November 2009, 19:20

Oh yeah, hope you are feeling better #1 :doctor:

F5 Dave

23rd November 2009, 08:35

Yeah it was a good day, nice to get out on a racebike again.

Glad to see you are back on a keypad No1, hope getting better.:2thumbsup

Trudes

23rd November 2009, 09:01

Mean Maori mean!!! Bad Rangi!!:spanking:

Number One

23rd November 2009, 09:07

Thanks guys - yeah I'm ok just very sore head and left hip and knee and generally torn muscles and bones from the clang.

Gutted - not only was it so early in the race but my bitchy team mate couldn't continue without me...sorry.

As for Rangi should've cooked me some fucking eggs!

Big thanks to Trudes and Dave (not sure your name but you very nice and now have Pamela) for taking care of me while the ambos came and helping me get the leathers off - there was no way I wanted to sacrifice those any more than I already had by tearing them up in the off.

BTW - even though I didn't want the ambo to come the nitrous made it all worthwhile :yes: That stuff was no good in childbirth but I can recommend it with head injury and banged up bod.

nudemetalz

23rd November 2009, 09:21

Just like to say:-

Firstly, pleased to hear Number One isn't too banged up and will recover nicely - good news :) !!

Secondly, thanks to everyone who attended yesterday and made it the awesome day it was. Even though I wasn't racing I had a ball watching everyone enjoying themselves.
The backwards-running Lemans start was an absolute hoot !!!

Also, thanks to the people (Skunk, Fishie etc) that helped me run the event and make it the success it was. There were some pretty tired looking people after that 120 mins.

And...thanks to the people that travelled a distance to attend, namely the Christchurch and Palmy North guys. Hope you had a blast :)

Cheers all :2thumbsup

xr-rider

23rd November 2009, 09:53

great event. thank you george for the bike, chris and everyone that organised the meet. also thank you to AJ for engouraging me to get back out with about 15 minutes left. I am very sore this morning and don't think i will do another 2 hour on my own again.

zxr400#150

23rd November 2009, 10:03

Mudflaps

23rd November 2009, 17:35

As others have said, cheers to everyone that made yesterday happen!!! Was such a great day! Racing wise and weather wise.

I had to laugh when every one was up on the deck at the end of the day, it was like a bad zombie movie with the walking dead all around:2thumbsup. Haven't seen so people limping around since...actually, I don't think i ever have!! A true reflection of hard people went out there. Was awesome having turns in the enduro and getting to watch a whole lot of different racers together.

And as for my day... I had a great day racing. Esp since I had a whole new rear end on the Tape Worm. The last set up had the rear sitting 15mm off centre and tracking to the right, Which I'm putting 50% of my crashes down to. So I met one of my goals, and had a full day without crashing!!!:banana::banana: Sounds stupid, but it was almost becoming a problem.

And a big thanks to my partner in crime Bert, who helped put my front brake pad back in after it fell out on the dummy grid at one of our transitions:lol::lol: Hence why we only ended up doing 61 laps! But 61 fun laps!!

And glad to hear #1 is ok. Was a bit worried for a bit. But she has a very nice dry reaching action, and the sound is just as good:2thumbsup

all4A50s

23rd November 2009, 17:59

Much thanks to Chris and Andrew for such a cool event. Thanks for the trophies. Amy was still finding it funny this morning that I got first for grade B and worst engineered bucket.

Thanks to AJ for teaming up with me. Sorry about the gear changer problems but we got there.

Im stoked my 50 lasted the day without mishap.

I'm pretty much a write off today with my right knee, back, neck head, both shoulders and right arm competing to be the sorest.

It was the third crash that did me in I think.

Apologies to who ever it was I collected when i came off coming into the home straight. First time I've seen a bucket rider sandwich so close up before.

My bike is well a truly in need of a new front tyre.

My daughters had blast riding the dirt bike there, but are gagging to get on the track so hopefully two more bucketeers in the near future.

It was great day, hopefully my body has recovered enough by TRRS.

Trudes

23rd November 2009, 18:17

And as for my day... I had a great day racing. Esp since I had a whole new rear end on the Tape Worm. The last set up had the rear sitting 15mm off centre and tracking to the right, Which I'm putting 50% of my crashes down to. So I met one of my goals, and had a full day without crashing!!!:banana::banana: Sounds stupid, but it was almost becoming a problem.

And a big thanks to my partner in crime Bert, who helped put my front brake pad back in after it fell out on the dummy grid at one of our transitions:lol::lol: Hence why we only ended up doing 61 laps! But 61 fun laps!
I rode a whole season on that fucked up thing, so HTFU!!;) Just kidding!
Good on you, I'm glad you had a good day with no crashing (especially passing me without feeling the need to harass my exhaust again :laugh:) Thanks for helping me with Ms Dry Retch 2009 too!:)

I have to say a big thanks to Bert also for offering to help me fix up Rangi enough to get back out and finish, by then however I had already resigned myself to the fact my day was done, once my boots come off I'm done. Thanks though :)

Kendog

23rd November 2009, 18:21

Another thanks to Bert, I had given up but he came to the rescue with some replacement hose clamps to keep my carb on :2thumbsup

Trudes

23rd November 2009, 18:23

Fark! What a good guy! Wonder if we can hire him as a pitbitch?!:laugh:

richban

23rd November 2009, 19:24

Yep had a blast out there. Thanks to Andrew for lending me his spare rear wheel after mine ate a bearing. Would have missed the hole enduro.

Cheers Mate

Also thanks to everyone that has helped out over the year with advice on riding and my engine tuning problems. Fish you win with the (might be a manifold leak). it was a manifold leak. Glen for showing us how fast you are supposed to go. And everyone for tuning up and racing. Chris great job on getting us the track. It's a great venue long may we ride there. Well done.

Mudflaps

23rd November 2009, 22:17

[QUOTE=Trudes;1129531212]I rode a whole season on that fucked up thing, so HTFU!!;) Just kidding!

Lol. To that I have nothing to say!!:oi-grr: I still left 50% for rider error, if you think that should be higher, just say!:lol::banana::lol:

I have so say a big thanks to Bert also for offering to help me fix up Rangi...

Yeah he is good like that. Great guy to have around. He is the man, and the whole reason I got into buckets!!! If I wasn't already married...:hug::lol:

Bert

24th November 2009, 05:28

I'd really like to thank everyone that organised the event. great venue for bucket racing; make sure you keep the Kart boys happy, so you don't end up losing the track again...

Great day, nice to get back out and play (wobble around) on buckets, thanks Dave for pairing up with me; not that I did much. Nice to meet some of you and catch up with some of the older guys. no doubt I'll be seeing more of me next year; now I have the bug again.

Also must say "bigups" to =CJ= (#8A), whom I calculated to be the first "B" grade rider home in the endurance race (only B grader to go the full distance :niceone:); only his third time out bucket racing & did the whole thing by himself.... :first:
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, as I'm hearing about it no end at work....:doh:

xr-rider

24th November 2009, 07:07

Also must say "bigups" to =CJ= (#8A), whom I calculated to be the first "B" grade rider home in the endurance race (only B grader to go the full distance :niceone:); only his third time out bucket racing & did the whole thing by himself.... :first:
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, as I'm hearing about it no end at work....:doh:

Im a B grader and done the whole thing on my own. im still sore this morning

cmac

24th November 2009, 08:49

Thanks to all who put the day together :clap:
I had a great day (even if my gear shift broke at about 1 hour) and I really enjoyed riding a new track. I've only ridden Ruapuna and Levels previously so this was completely different - no chance of a rest down the straight:shit:.
I must say that it was nice to be amongst such a nice group of people - thanks for making Wallace and myself so welcome.
Got back to Christchurch at about 4:30 am, staggered inside and had a nice long bath.
Can't wait for the next time.

Sketchy_Racer

24th November 2009, 09:31

F5 Dave

24th November 2009, 11:24

. . . . Would have missed the hole enduro.
. . . .
There was a Hole enduro? Is that like a donut eating contest? You're a bit too skinny for that I would think.

Kendog

24th November 2009, 11:34

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, as I'm hearing about it no end at work....:doh:
I am also B grade and finshed the race riding solo (minus a couple of stops to refit the carb)

Trudes

24th November 2009, 12:37

Yeah, us B graders are hard core alright!!!:niceone:

Bert

24th November 2009, 16:53

.....
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, as I'm hearing about it no end at work....:doh:

Sweet, I stand corrected.:niceone:

Number One

24th November 2009, 19:01

HARD CORE!!! (http://turfsm.com/uploaded_images/hard_core_heavy_metal_midget-758895.jpg)

Trudes

24th November 2009, 19:09

I still need to find out how to Un-see things!!!!:laugh:

Kendog

25th November 2009, 21:02

Secondly, thanks to everyone who attended yesterday and made it the awesome day it was. Even though I wasn't racing I had a ball watching everyone enjoying themselves.
The backwards-running Lemans start was an absolute hoot !!!

Are you able to post up the bike numbers and laps, I didn't hear my bike number during the presentation so am curious.

nudemetalz

26th November 2009, 07:30

Are you able to post up the bike numbers and laps, I didn't hear my bike number during the presentation so am curious.

Sure.

Place race# Laps

1- 47 - 143
2- 31 - 140
3- 8 - 133
4- 49 - 132
5- 45 - 128
6- 72 - 120
7- 9 - 120
8- 77 - 112
9- 141 - 109
10- 8A - 105
11- 21 - 102
12- 37 - 96
13- 38 - 84
14- 79 - 81
15- 13 - 75
16- 96 - 70
17- 28 - 68
18- 18 - 61
19- 16 - 37
20- 27 - 31

Number One

26th November 2009, 10:03

Wahoo we weren't last Trudes - even though we were out early on :headbang:

F5 Dave

26th November 2009, 10:05

um, yeah. That would be me. But technically I didn't start the race:wacko:

Was great to get out & do some laps thou.

Number One

26th November 2009, 10:11

um, yeah. That would be me. But technically I didn't start the race:wacko:

Was great to get out & do some laps thou.
Well you SAY that...but we are taking 2nd to last anyway :bleh: :laugh:

andrew a

29th November 2009, 19:26

Trudes

29th November 2009, 20:35

I had an OK days racing. I was gutted to be taken out by Gorge that took some time to fix the bike and droped us down in the placings. Thats racing. Big thanks to F5 Dave for your help and advise. Caleb looked to be getting more comftortable on the bike also. Had one moment on the grass going arount Trude hope I didnt bust your confindance.
Thanks to the organisers to.

Caleb is going great guns out there! Every time he passed me he never came too close,.... as for you, I know you can ride on grass so figured you'd get round me, or crash, either way it wasn't my problem, other lesser riders would have tried to stay on the track and have taken me out by doing so, so all sweet :)

marsheng

29th November 2009, 23:32

Hi Chris

Thanks for the frame. Just wondering if you have the dog bone and the spacers for the rear swing arm axil bolt ?
Let me know. marshland@marshland.co.nz

It looks like it might be a project for the CB125-CB150. I have a motor and a complete bike. It should fit in quite well.

We are at Ruapuna this weekend so I'm interested for see if my lap times will come down.

Cheers Wallace

nudemetalz

30th November 2009, 09:14

Hi Wallace,

Everything I gave you from the frame is all I had for that. Bet a person of your skill could make them though :)

nudemetalz

1st December 2009, 13:37

A discussion was had about the #8 rider John (the one on the 150 Pitbike) and that a couple of people thought he may have done more laps than was announced.

So,...I decided to recount them. Yes, an error was made, we were short by 5 laps. Sooooo..... this brings his total laps up from 133 to 138. Still in 3rd place however, with Fishy on 140 & Sketchy on 143.

1000 apologies for this.

Nudey.

b1kerb0b

1st December 2009, 14:07

I am also B grade and finshed the race riding solo (minus a couple of stops to refit the carb)

Yeah, I'm another B-grader who did the whole thing... apart from the time it took Mark to fix my clutch after I crashed not long after the start. LOL, and my lower right leg is still multicoloured from that spill :)

Awesome to see the recount moved John closer to Fish and Sketchy, those 3 certainly did pass me lots!

F5 Dave

1st December 2009, 17:06

Maybe this isn't the welly way (or even the thread?), but one does wonder at what stage it gets suggested that John buys a legal bucket?

Skunk

1st December 2009, 22:19

Maybe this isn't the welly way (or even the thread?), but one does wonder at what stage it gets suggested that John buys a legal bucket?
I'm with you Dave.

F5 Dave

2nd December 2009, 08:16

Actually I started feeling a little bad. My statement is without proof. I've never really looked at his engine (just kinda thought is was some wobbly pitbike thing), I've just heard that it is stuffed full of competition parts (actually I can't tell you if his engine is road based). But if rumour is true & it isn't legal then should abide by same rules as everyone else. As did Richban when his Vespa was fast enough & he did the honourable thing & bought a FXR.

Kendog

2nd December 2009, 08:28

honourable thing

bought a FXR.
I like your way of thinking :laugh:

F5 Dave

2nd December 2009, 09:37

Performed the dastardly deed
Took the cowards way out
Went to the dark side
Did a nasty
Piked out
Boo

Is that a Haiku?:mellow:

nudemetalz

2nd December 2009, 11:46

At the end of the day, John rides pretty damn well and as fast as the pitbike is, it looks like quite a handful to get around the track.
When he starts leaving the "normal race winners" behind in a straight line, I would reckon that would be the time to have a "chat" about it to him..

(BTW Just my opinion)

F5 Dave

2nd December 2009, 14:37

So if he rides pretty well then no one should have any issue if he does it on a bike that follows the same rules that everyone else does? That would be fine of course. And it may well be legal (I can't really remember what the engine looks like)

I mean if we allow people to race on bikes that aren't strictly legal to get them hooked/bolster numbers (again I'm not aiming this at John) surely there should be a sort of time limit on that? Again Rich is a good example.

Skunk's TF will take a C model RM125 barrel. I mean it isn't likely that he'll beat Glen, so there's no problem with that. Or TZ's GP125, I'm sure he's gagging to fit that 34mm carb.

At what point do the rules not apply?

Sorry I've taken the thread waay off line & the above isn't meant in a sarcastic tone, but just as questions we have to ask ourselves.:blink:

nudemetalz

2nd December 2009, 14:59

I hear what you saying, and you are completely right.
Putting a 34mm carb in place of a 24mm on a 125 would give it quite an increase in power, more than you could get from a water-cooled 100, IMO.

In Welly, we haven't followed the rule book to the last letter, but most riders know what to do and don't abuse them anyway. I don't recall seeing any XR200 or RG150 engined machines, but I could be wrong ;) j/k

andrew a

2nd December 2009, 16:25

I thought he was within the rules. It's a 150 4 strore chinese motor in a pit bike. The only issue would if it has competition performance parts on it? The motor is based on a CT110 motor. Mine didnt go that fast.

quallman1234

2nd December 2009, 19:50

I don't recall seeing any XR200 or RG150 engined machines, but I could be wrong ;) j/k

Well at Slipway there used to be a couple of guys who rode there RG150's in the actual races.

I reckon its fine until he starts winning or what not,as it is still kind of within the rules.
Richards scooter was a 180 something i believe.

richban

2nd December 2009, 20:13

Richards scooter was a 180 something i believe.

It was a 190. It had 17hp but enough torque to spin the world backwards.

See this is what happens when you wheel-stand the length of the start finish straight. I must say that was gold all the way. Well done that man.

What I see is John has a (sold as road legal pitbike that has been re-powered with a 150cc engine). Just like fish has a road bike re-powered. I don,t think it breaks any rules its just a little unconventional.

There has been lots of talk about buying brand new lunchen engines with cams pistons the works going into all sorts of fancy frames its the same thing? isn't it.

nudemetalz

2nd December 2009, 21:04

Very true. That wheel-stand was something else !!!

Skunk

2nd December 2009, 22:05

Trudes

3rd December 2009, 06:23

Same for those damn FXRs, where's the spirit? (Where's the tongue-in-cheek smiley?)
If enough pitbikes turned up maybe they could have their own race?
I'm of the opinion that as long as it's legal, regardless of how fast it gets ridden, it's fine. Rules are there for a reason. Saying to someone "it's not strictly legal but as long as you don't beat me then it's fine" but the minute they do you bring out the rule book and start telling them they can't play anymore is a little off, start how you mean to continue. If the carb's too big to be legal, put a smaller one on. It'd be like me nyloning up a 250 and bringing it out, will you all say it's fine unless I actually beat someone?

koba

3rd December 2009, 06:38

John may not even know the rules RE competition parts.
It's easy to forget not everyone is on the internet alot.

koba

3rd December 2009, 06:41

I'm happy as long as it's within the rules. Is a pitbike a Miniature Road Race bike or a pitbike?
IMO - in spirit no, on paper yes.
Are we racing Buckets or Pitbikes?

I'm OK with Pitbikes as long as everyone else is. Will everyone be happy if most of the bikes are pitbikes?
What if the pitbikes start winning all the time? Will everyone still be happy?

Do we say no pitbikes?
No points for pitbikes?

I'd say yes, I really don't see them flourishing. sure they are cheap and easy to get as a starter bike but I believe even good ones are inherently limited to a level that will not allow them to compete with a well sorted bucket. (Given equal riders etc..)

nudemetalz

3rd December 2009, 08:16

Saying to someone "it's not strictly legal but as long as you don't beat me then it's fine" but the minute they do you bring out the rule book and start telling them they can't play anymore is a little off, start how you mean to continue.

I was referring more to the fact that if a pitbike engine full of competition parts is faster than a tuned FXR/Loncin etc based engine then why bother with a rulebook if no-one adheers to it.
However, John's bike is really the only pitbike out there, he has fun, sure the thing is fast but we don't (didn't in my case) bother too much about it being legal or not quite.
Wellington bucketing is lax with rulebook regs of tuning compared to other parts of the country and that's what makes it so great to race within. Out-of towners have said that.

Trudes

3rd December 2009, 08:43

I was referring more to the fact that if a pitbike engine full of competition parts is faster than a tuned FXR/Loncin etc based engine then why bother with a rulebook if no-one adheers to it.
However, John's bike is really the only pitbike out there, he has fun, sure the thing is fast but we don't (didn't in my case) bother too much about it being legal or not quite.
Wellington bucketing is lax with rulebook regs of tuning compared to other parts of the country and that's what makes it so great to race within. Out-of towners have said that.

Does mean though that he's limited to racing in Wellington, and if he doesn't know the rules and goes somewhere else to race and they tell him he can't because it doesn't adhere to the rules then he may be very dissapointed. I just think it's easier to get things right straight off the bat than have people getting pissy. For sure if someone turns up with something that we all know is not entirely "legal" let them have a couple of races to see if buckets is something they want to continue with and if so, then they may have to do some modifications. It's like I can get away with having a pretty non-existent back brake here in Wellington, until I crash into someone because my front brake failed and I have no rear brake to stop me, and before I go to Taupo I know I have to do something about getting it sorted. I think at times we're a little too lax with the rules here... and just because "that's the way it's always been" doesn't make it right. Fun is great, that's what it's all about, however how about making a real effort to make sure it's as safe as we can possibly make it for everyone, that also means trying to make sure the rules are taken into account also. Why should there be one rule for some people and not for others? I shouldn't have to wear a back protector, I never fall off (Tui).

nudemetalz

3rd December 2009, 09:08

Actually speaking of back-protectors, I was a little disturbed to hear that not all people racing were wearing one on the 2-hour.

Trudes

3rd December 2009, 09:36

Maybe that rule hadn't been made known to all, and who was in charge of checking gear? We can have this same discussion every year if you like.

nudemetalz

3rd December 2009, 09:37

quallman1234

3rd December 2009, 11:09

Trudes

3rd December 2009, 12:56

nudemetalz

3rd December 2009, 13:12

Fair call,..and thanks, Fraulein Trudes.

My opinion is that from next year, you peoples clamp down on wearing the correct gear,..ie no back-protector, no ride.
I learnt the hard way after crashing hard in a multi-bike pile-up.

Just as important as the nyloning. I'll come out to the odd meeting (where my new family will allow) and help out.

jasonu

3rd December 2009, 13:51

Maybe this isn't the welly way (or even the thread?), but one does wonder at what stage it gets suggested that John buys a legal bucket?

Hey Dave,
Do you guys run a season points championship like they do in Auckland? If yes, then this guy on the 'fast' pit bike may well effect the final result by takeing points from others. Even if the pit bike is not awarded points for his finishes, he can still potentially effect the result of the race by diceing with/passing/slowing/knocking off the genuine points contenders on legal machinery. Rules are rules. Maybe try encouraging these guys to have a go in the practice sessions to get them enthused enough to get a legal machine.
Just saying.

saxet

3rd December 2009, 15:28

I think a definition of "competition parts" could be required as it could include hot cams for four strokes or aftermarket pistons for any bike.
Personally I think it's a bit vague as to where the line is and I gotta admit I'm confused as to how it all works out.

F5 Dave

3rd December 2009, 17:16

from chapter 24:
. . . Engines must be derived from non-competition motorcycles. Motocross, Road Racing,
Enduro and Go Kart motors and transmission parts are not permitted. There shall be no
restriction on the make, type or design of carburettor, ignition, exhaust, piston, cam, valve
springs or cooling system except for class eligibility. . . .

ok so that is pretty straight forward. If you are buying any parts that are designed for Racing/competition (apart from as mentioned pistons & cams) then it is not a legal part.

In fact it has cleared a up a grey area for me. A DS80 should be perfectly legal. As should for (for example) a pit bike.

But if one was to open a catalog & order some race parts, after market performance cylinder or head or whatever. That would clearly be a competition part. As we know they race pit bikes & there is a burgeoning market of hot up parts.

. . . And a Pocket bike is clearly a competition bike, not that you'd be crazy enough to try & enter one.

Number One

3rd December 2009, 17:52

not everyone is on the internet

Maybe that rule hadn't been made known to all, and who was in charge of checking gear? We can have this same discussion every year if you like.

Same conversation...Mmm hmmm indeed.

I recall (at the same time last year infact) a radical idea where it was suggested that a group of people each day or someone was charged with ensuring that everyone had one and calling for vounteers to volunteer to share on here etc etc etc. It takes people to step up, speak up and put up..and THAT is such a fucking thankless task sometimes innit?!

The issue I can't get my head around is why the hell anyone would get out there without a back protector, I would beg or steal one if I had to!

...perhaps though they just haven't crashed yet...so don't know that pain...show off bastards!

:lol:

quallman1234

3rd December 2009, 22:39

But if one was to open a catalog & order some race parts, after market performance cylinder or head or whatever. That would clearly be a competition part. As we know they race pit bikes & there is a burgeoning market of hot up parts.

Does Richard fit into this? I'm not sure what the deal is with his bucket. But i got the idea that he ordered certain 'race' parts for it from some china website.

Could be completely wrong.

Personally i'm apposed to kicking him out simply because, where else is he going to race?
If there is a sudden insurge of pit bikes, enough to make a race, then maybe they should get together and do just that. But for the time being there's only one out there who fits roughly into the poorly written rules.

saxet

4th December 2009, 07:46

:clap:

Personally i'm apposed to kicking him out simply because, where else is he going to race?
If there is a sudden insurge of pit bikes, enough to make a race, then maybe they should get together and do just that. But for the time being there's only one out there who fits roughly into the poorly written rules.

Ditto.:clap:

Trudes

4th December 2009, 08:05

I take it as we don't want to "kick him out", more if he wants to race a pitbike it, like the buckets, has to fall under the 'rules' as far as competition parts, engine etc.

F5 Dave

4th December 2009, 08:31

Does Richard fit into this? I'm not sure what the deal is with his bucket. But i got the idea that he ordered certain 'race' parts for it from some china website.

Could be completely wrong.

Personally i'm apposed to kicking him out simply because, where else is he going to race?
If there is a sudden insurge of pit bikes, enough to make a race, then maybe they should get together and do just that. But for the time being there's only one out there who fits roughly into the poorly written rules.

Richard fits in here:
"There shall be no
restriction on the make, type or design of carburettor, ignition, exhaust, piston, cam, valve
springs or cooling system except for class eligibility. . . . "

Easy to criticise the rules, but they were around before the term Pitbike had even been invented. Actually I think they are still quite well written.

Post Classic rules do go a stage further by saying that aftermarket big bore kits such as MTC kits are not legal. But that is implied by our rules & Post Classics do allow other race parts so they are coming from another direction.

richban

6th December 2009, 09:00

Richard fits in here:
"There shall be no
restriction on the make, type or design of carburettor, ignition, exhaust, piston, cam, valve
springs or cooling system except for class eligibility. . . . "

When I looked at modifying that engine the first thing I did was read and re read the rules. They are well writen and easily followed. Everything in my engine is custom the piston was a CBR piston made to fit. Valves are yamaha all the rest is fxr modifided. A proper bucket engine.

Sketchy_Racer

6th December 2009, 10:44

When I looked at modifying that engine the first thing I did was read and re read the rules. They are well writen and easily followed. Everything in my engine is custom the piston was a CBR piston made to fit. Valves are yamaha all the rest is fxr modifided. A proper bucket engine.

Yeah but it's faster in a straight line than mine and I don't like that so I may have to protest you, just so I can see the inside of your motor :D

Yow Ling

6th December 2009, 12:03

Yeah but it's faster in a straight line than mine and I don't like that so I may have to protest you, just so I can see the inside of your motor :D

$100 to look inside his motor is pretty expensive. Then all you would find is all the normal stuff

jasonu

6th December 2009, 13:43

$100 to look inside his motor is pretty expensive. Then all you would find is all the normal stuff

$100 to look inside the winning motor is a bargain. Have your vernier at the ready!!!

Yow Ling

6th December 2009, 14:51

does the protester even get to look?
We havnt had a protest in the last 4 or 5 years ive been racing so I wouldnt know. Maybe we need a protest tech centre , Ill set one up send all the dodgy motors here for examining !!!!

Kickaha

6th December 2009, 15:23

Actually I think they are still quite well written.

As do I, they're nice and simple and I think they are quite easy to understand

richban

6th December 2009, 19:51

Yeah but it's faster in a straight line than mine and I don't like that so I may have to protest you, just so I can see the inside of your motor :D

You think its fast now wait till I start cheating.

F5 Dave

7th December 2009, 08:24

$100 to look inside the winning motor is a bargain. Have your vernier at the ready!!!

I think the go on a 2 smoke is a quick flick with a rolly paper onto the oily barrel which will give you all the port info.

quallman1234

7th December 2009, 11:46

Fair enough', we'll see what happens. I'm sure Skunk and co will make the right decision and maybe nudge him towards a legal bucket ;).

all4A50s

7th December 2009, 23:30

okkkaaayyy,...Looks like Skunk will do a better job next year than I have done this year....

Actually I take that back. It's been a sh!t load of work this year, but rewarding. There's certainly been a lot of areas where I could have done better but no-one is perfect.

Same conversation...Mmm hmmm indeed.

I recall (at the same time last year infact) a radical idea where it was suggested that a group of people each day or someone was charged with ensuring that everyone had one and calling for vounteers to volunteer to share on here etc etc etc. It takes people to step up, speak up and put up..and THAT is such a fucking thankless task sometimes innit?!

The issue I can't get my head around is why the hell anyone would get out there without a back protector, I would beg or steal one if I had to!

...perhaps though they just haven't crashed yet...so don't know that pain...show off bastards!

:lol:

I agree. I've had a look at my gear after the two hour and if I had been not wearing one part or removed some padding/protection from my leathers there would have been a good chance I'd been joining in the ride to the ambulance.

A couple of questions over the rules;

Could one take a non performance bike such as a GSX250, seal up two cylinder's valve guides and race it in buckets? Not that I'm planning on it, just wondering if you'd be allowed to.

And what is the minimum age to race in buckets? And how big is too big when it comes to the gear one wears? Apologies in advance if someone has already answered this but I can't remember ever finding this out. Amy is starting to think about having a go later next year if she is allowed.

Skunk

8th December 2009, 09:05

I agree. I've had a look at my gear after the two hour and if I had been not wearing one part or removed some padding/protection from my leathers there would have been a good chance I'd been joining in the ride to the ambulance.

A couple of questions over the rules;

Could one take a non performance bike such as a GSX250, seal up two cylinder's valve guides and race it in buckets? Not that I'm planning on it, just wondering if you'd be allowed to.

And what is the minimum age to race in buckets? And how big is too big when it comes to the gear one wears? Apologies in advance if someone has already answered this but I can't remember ever finding this out. Amy is starting to think about having a go later next year if she is allowed.
All that is covered in the MNZ rules. See www.mnz.co.nz or there is a link to the rules under Resources on www.bucketracing.co.nz, but gear should fit well so it doesn't move when crashing. 13 is the minimum age. Yes a GSX250 is legal if the cylinders are non functioning.

nudemetalz

8th December 2009, 09:28

I think it's more cylinder is non-functioning !! ;)
Both and he ain't going anywhere... :rofl:

oh,....4-cylinder GSX250.....

Buckets4Me

8th December 2009, 13:01

Easy to criticise the rules, but they were around before the term Pitbike had even been invented. Actually I think they are still quite well written.

agree but pit bike's have been around since the 70's :scooter:

they where used to go from the pits to the stands shops garage shed race track or anywhere the lazy bastards couldn't be bothered to walk

when people started racing them I dont know but it's not surprising (look who was riding them)

also we have pit carts now (ex golf carts) and I know they arn't race preped YET :innocent: (just wait)