Parliament meeting tonight

[MisterE]

Anyone in the WLG area. If you have never been to the parliamentary debating chamber tonight is your opportunity to go. Apparently they are meeting under urgency to push the legislation through (huge surprise)

How many people in full leathers can we get into the visitors gallery?

[Deano]

If the end date for consultation and receiving submissions is 10 November, how the hell can they do that ?

[Cajun]

and i heard just on the 4pm news that might not have numbers to push it thru

[MisterE]

No idea. But they are...


http://www.3news.co.nz/ACC-changes-under-attack-as-Maori-PartyACT-revolt/tabid/419/articleID/125578/cat/67/Default.aspx


Thu, 15 Oct 2009 2:57p.m.
By James Murray


Parliament may go into urgency this afternoon as the National Party tries to push through controversial changes to the law required to change ACC levies.

3 News has been told that the Maori Party and ACT are refusing to back the government's bid.

Neither party has spoken in parliament yet but ACC Minister Nick Smith has admitted that National are still in negotiation with their coalition partners.


This is breaking news - more details to follow.

3 News

[TerminalAddict]

have they not looked at the polls ? <_<

[bones135]

If they dont look at them then they havent seen them, if they havent seen them then why would they care

[Dave Lobster]

If they dont look at them then they havent seen them, if they havent seen them then why would they care

And if they haven't seen them, they don't exist.

[spookytooth]

and if they have seen them they don't give a fuck

[mossy1200]

I just extended my rego out to a full year.you can purchace more rego well before expiry but only once.Mines now until october next year.I dont trust those pricks.Wake up tomorrow and law is passed and rego is up simple.A proposed date next year will meen squat.

[duckonin]

and if they have seen them they don't give a fuck

Yep so fuck them!!!!

[James Deuce]

If it goes through under urgency, simply "forget" to pay your rego.

Can we all do that?

[Deano]

If it goes through under urgency, simply "forget" to pay your rego.

Can we all do that?

What is a rego ? :rolleyes:

My estimation of John Key and National just went down considerably.

I might even try and speak with him on ZB tomorrow am and ask how in a democratic society, the Govt can pass a law without first finishing consulting and receiving submissions.

[Laxi]

Parliament may go into urgency this afternoon as the National Party tries to push through controversial changes to the law required to change ACC levies.

3 News

this is not the acc levies themselves, this things so fucked up and so criminal that they need to change laws before there even allowed to shit on us like this:mad:

[DidJit]

From Radio New Zealand News:



Support still sought to make ACC changes law

Updated at 4:36pm on 15 October 2009

The Government has delayed introducing legislation on changes to the Accident Compensation Corporation, with the National Party saying it's still seeking support for the bill.

Parliament went into urgency on Thursday and MPs had expected the legislation, which will cut back on ACC entitlements, to be introduced during the afternoon.

ACC Minister Nick Smith told Parliament, however, that he was still seeking the support of the other parties in the government.

Copyright © 2009 Radio New Zealand

[StoneY]

If it goes through under urgency, simply "forget" to pay your rego.

Can we all do that?

F U C K I N A BRUVVER

Ive never adviszed anyone to 'run' from the law...untill 6.02pm last night, its now my default policy-

[jimbo600]

Bring back Helen Clark all is forgiven.......................

Um actually I'd rather pay $750 a year rego.

[Ixion]

Calm down folks.

What is happening here is NOT to set the new levies.

The government , as well as making us pay more, want to reduce some ACC entitlements. To do that they need a law change. Which is what this is about. Nothing (directly) to do with motorcycles at all.

Setting the levies doesn't require Parliament. It's all done between the Minister and the ACC.

And nothing will happen until 10th November. And probably not for a while after that. Much behind the scenes jockeying.

[ital916]

Calm down folks.

What is happening here is NOT to set the new levies.

The government , as well as making us pay more, want to reduce some ACC entitlements. To do that they need a law change. Which is what this is about. Nothing (directly) to do with motorcycles at all.

Setting the levies doesn't require Parliament. It's all done between the Minister and the ACC.

And nothing will happen until 10th November. And probably not for a while after that. Much behind the scenes jockeying.

I think you should change your title from "sweet gentle innocent old man" to "hulk like fire breathing motorcycling ninja". I think the current situation makes it appropriate.

[Genestho]

Ahhh Ixion, you are cowwect. :doh:

Parliament went into urgency on Thursday and MPs had expected the legislation, which will cut back on ACC entitlements, to be introduced during the afternoon.

[dogsnbikes]

If it goes through under urgency, simply "forget" to pay your rego.

Can we all do that?

certainly can the Doc said my medication would make me forgetful:2thumbsup

[DarkLord]

So they fucking should.

From my understanding (correct me if I am misinformed) with the current laws, some fuckwit can break into a house and get the bash from the owner, then go whining to ACC that he was injured and claim for it.

If the government and ACC want to save money that is the kind of shit they need to stop yesterday.

I wrote to my local MP this morning and received an email from her PA detailing how they are tightening up on some entitlements.

[CookMySock]

If the end date for consultation and receiving submissions is 10 November, how the hell can they do that ?hehe wake up and smell the shit.

Steve

[mnkyboy]

I'm really surprised Labour aren't trying to make hay while the sun shines.

Phil Goff (a rider himself) would make a few points imo if he took national to task over this.

I voted national, but the can get Fk'd if they push this through. Not because of the price rises but the way they have conducted themselves.

[Dafe]

I agree with Deano! I've just lost a heap of Respect for National and John Key.
Massive gains in respect to Maori and ACT.
Still fully hate Labour though - They caused this 13 Billion dollar crap

[jimbo600]

I agree with Deano! I've just lost a heap of Respect for National and John Key.
Massive gains in respect to Maori and ACT.

Yep same. I feel violated.

[vhot]

Anyone in the WLG area. If you have never been to the parliamentary debating chamber tonight is your opportunity to go. Apparently they are meeting under urgency to push the legislation through (huge surprise)

How many people in full leathers can we get into the visitors gallery?
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Have just heard this has been canned for tonite.

I want to start a private members bill...that moves that we as OWNERS are REGISTERED. then we can own whatever bikes \ cars we like and only pay once!

Well, how many cars can you drive at the same time? How many bikes can you ride at the same time?? Its crazy. That's my thoughts anyways!

[Flip]

I remember about 15 to 20 years ago filling parlament grounds with motorcycles last time ACC wanted to raise the rego for bikes. I still have the COM badge. Must dust off my old BRONZ membership.

[DarkLord]

I remember about 15 to 20 years ago filling parlament grounds with motorcycles last time ACC wanted to raise the rego for bikes. I still have the COM badge. Must dust off my old BRONZ membership.

Hell yeah. I'd be keen for that.

What happened last time? I was only a wee lad :baby:

[I'm motarded]

If it goes through under urgency, simply "forget" to pay your rego.

Can we all do that?

Hell yes, or all the bike owners in the country all put there rego on hold, that will fuck them

[zahria]

I'm really surprised Labour aren't trying to make hay while the sun shines.

Phil Goff (a rider himself) would make a few points imo if he took national to task over this.

I voted national, but the can get Fk'd if they push this through. Not because of the price rises but the way they have conducted themselves.

If Labour had a proper leader who could breath fire, they could take the dam govt to task.
Phil Goff is a wuss.

[StoneY]

I'm really surprised Labour aren't trying to make hay while the sun shines.

Phil Goff (a rider himself) would make a few points imo if he took national to task over this.

I voted national, but the can get Fk'd if they push this through. Not because of the price rises but the way they have conducted themselves.

Ive e-mailed that very idea to his secretary

[kb_SF1]

:headbang: If you have not already done so email N Smith, John Key and the National Ministers collectively with your concerns.

Links are:
n.smith@ministers.govt.nz
j.key@ministers.govt.nz
ministers@ministers.govt.nz

:mad:

[Dave Lobster]

Massive gains in respect to Maori

Don't get too carried away.

[CookMySock]

Hi Five!!!!!
<img src="http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2006/startracks/061127/borat.jpg">

Steve

[325rocket]

didnt ACT not support it because they want national to go further?
so we could be looking at $1000 + if rodders has his way

[bones135]

didnt ACT not support it because they want national to go further?
so we could be looking at $1000 + if rodders has his way

Yea & the maori party were looking at the options i think is what i heard, screw ACT too:Pokey:

[CookMySock]

didnt ACT not support it because they want national to go further?
so we could be looking at $1000 + if rodders has his wayNo support means no support, means no support!

It's not the end of the journey, but its a great obstacle. :lol:

Steve

[Laxi]

farrk off! 2morrow keys will just throw rodney another portfolio and give the maoris some fishing rights or some shit and they'll be all good

[bones135]

No support means no support, means no support!

It's not the end of the journey, but its a great obstacle. :lol:

Steve

It is a good start so long as they dont cave in in exchange for whatever crap they want. stand up to the assholes.

[4lakavat]

farrk off! 2morrow keys will just throw rodney another portfolio and give the maoris some fishing rights or some shit and they'll be all good

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha and thats it.
.

[AllanB]

farrk off! 2morrow keys will just throw rodney another portfolio and give the maoris some fishing rights or some shit and they'll be all good

Newspaper headline reads:

Maori TV get Rugby Rights

[5150]

Actually it's not good news people. If National doesn't get support, then they won't be able to cap what ACC really wants to charge us. In other words if this doesn't pass, then ACC is free to charge what ever they want, and as they mentioned it could be up to $1500 per bike per year. Thats my take on it anyway:(

[Thaeos]

Well they only need 1 of the party's to support it don't they. ACT probably will so there you go

[kiwi cowboy]

Newspaper headline reads:

Maori TV get Rugby Rights


Exactly whot i think but they dont want to come out in support of the acc debarcle untill tuesday because they think the public wont put the conection together if they wait a while the dickheads think were dumbarses:buggerd:

[dpex]

Exactly whot i think but they dont want to come out in support of the acc debarcle untill tuesday because they think the public wont put the conection together if they wait a while the dickheads think were dumbarses:buggerd:

You guys don't REALLY believe National has tossed Maori TV the rights to televise what is other than a little-known sport, on a world scale, just to get the Maori party to support the new ACC stuff, do you?

You cynical bastards!

Fact is, I agree.

So much for reasonable representation via MMP. They're all just bloody self-serving crooks, the lot of them.

Revolution is what we need. Burn a whole bunch of Catholics (and presume all MPs are Catholic)!

[kwaka_crasher]

I remember about 15 to 20 years ago filling parlament grounds with motorcycles last time ACC wanted to raise the rego for bikes. I still have the COM badge. Must dust off my old BRONZ membership.

I was there too. Which one were you? :lol:

[kiwi cowboy]

You guys don't REALLY believe National has tossed Maori TV the rights to televise what is other than a little-known sport, on a world scale, just to get the Maori party to support the new ACC stuff, do you?

You cynical bastards!

Fact is, I agree.

So much for reasonable representation via MMP. They're all just bloody self-serving crooks, the lot of them.

Revolution is what we need. Burn a whole bunch of Catholics (and presume all MPs are Catholic)!

Burn them? Can you make that look like mass suicide? otherwise imagine the acc payout bill too all the mp's family's :mad:

[rainman]

You guys don't REALLY believe National has tossed Maori TV the rights to televise what is other than a little-known sport, on a world scale, just to get the Maori party to support the new ACC stuff, do you?

You cynical bastards!

Fact is, I agree.

They haven't done anything of the sort. Instead of running their own bid, the MP now get to front some bastardised combined bid that gives McCully and the racist nutbars out there what they want, while stroking Pita Sharples's "mana". (And it'll probably still cost more). I used to have some respect for Sharples but he's so politically naive it's painful to watch.


Revolution is what we need.

Right on, man. (Seriously, you're completely right).

[modboy]

The Hon Retarded Nick Smith may well have fucked it up by being a retarded insensitive fuckwit.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/2968651/ACC-Minister-apologises-for-suicide-remarks

Looks like this may have scuttled any dubious cross-party support they may have had.

[rosie631]

Massive gains in respect to Maori and ACT.


Why for ACT? Reason they are not supporting it is cos they think the changes aren't tough enough. They think we should be charged even more

[StoneY]

Well, at least for whatever reason both allies fucked JK over today, good stuff

[MyGSXF]

I remember about 15 to 20 years ago filling parlament grounds with motorcycles last time ACC wanted to raise the rego for bikes.

93. I was there too.. :yes: