About common courtesy

[Maha]

Would it be fair to say that, if you are riding on the road and approaching another bike and there is room to pass (and ithe other bike maybe not going as quick as you) that you be sure, to make sure that other bike knows you are there? Rather than keep your speed up and pass, maybe sit on his mirror for a few seconds?
Had this senario last weekend, I was behind about three cars, a passing was 2 km up the road but I thought I would take these cars now, quick look in my mirrors as I move to the right and fuck me, theres a bike beside me....no real drama, I often check my mirrors, real often in fact. But there are times when even bikers dont see other bikers.

[Edbear]

Would it be fair to say that, if you are riding on the road and approaching another bike and there is room to pass (and ithe other bike maybe not going as quick as you) that you be sure, to make sure that other bike knows you are there? Rather than keep your speed up and pass, maybe sit on his mirror for a few seconds?
Had this senario last weekend, I was behind about three cars, a passing was 2 km up the road but I thought I would take these cars now, quick look in my mirrors as I move to the right and fuck me, theres a bike beside me....no real drama, I often check my mirrors, real often in fact. But there are times when even bikers dont see other bikers.

Yeah, I agree. I try to ensure the rider has seen me behind him but the same has happened to me and I've been surprised not to have noticed a biker coming up behind me. I feel it was at least in part my fault for not being aware, I had my mind on other things, or was concentrating on traffic ahead. Usually I am checking my mirrors constantly in traffic.

[CookMySock]

It's best if we all follow the same procedure, and that procedure is set out in the road code. If we start making up our own methodology, then everyone is going to be doing their own thing, and that is asking for trouble.

Maybe the rules can be bent here and there, but be it on the rule-benders' head, wallet, and neck.

edit: I agree it is very surprising when any vehicle turns up unannounced.

Steve

[AllanB]

Motorcycling is dangerous - I know this as the Government told me so this week so it must be true.


Nick Smith we should always check our mirrors before passing and when one is passing one should always consider the driver/rider in front.


Now if all the bikes had big rowdy pipes you may have heard him. But the government has stopped that as it upsets the other road users.

[Maha]

Yeah, I agree. I try to ensure the rider has seen me behind him but the same has happened to me and I've been surprised not to have noticed a biker coming up behind me. I feel it was at least in part my fault for not being aware, I had my mind on other things, or was concentrating on traffic ahead. Usually I am checking my mirrors constantly in traffic.

Yeah I wasn't pissed off, I was right behind him again two passing lanes up but, it could have been a little different had I not checked my mirrors again just as I went to pass.
If I am in a situation where, I am behind cars for a kilometer or two, I frequent the use of my mirrors and as im taking that last look, I am generally moving out (probably a bad habit) and this is what happen last weekend.

[Maha]

Motorcycling is dangerous - I know this as the Government told me so this week so it must be true.


Nick Smith we should always check our mirrors before passing and when one is passing one should always consider the driver/rider in front.


Now if all the bikes had big rowdy pipes you may have heard him. But the government has stopped that as it upsets the other road users.

This is not an ACC Thread, although A.C.C is in the thread title....:shifty:

[ajturbo]

yeah... i try to let "them" know i am coming......(bright light helps)

[Murray]

Perhaps you could wave at each other before passing???

[2wheeldrifter]

Yeah I like to sit behind them for a moment, watch their mirrors and take note if they have seen me... if so then I make the intention to pass.

and fuck I'm gone.... :oi-grr: all done safely as 100k's IS the limit :2thumbsup

[2wheeldrifter]

Perhaps you could wave at each other before passing???


Big stick... tap them on the shoulder would help in some cases :lol:

[ckai]

I always follow the "first-in-line" principle. But it goes for anything, if I come up to the back of a few vehicles, I wait to see if the person in front of me wants to pass first. They were there first so they have the right to pass first. If they still don't, then it's my turn. I do this with group rides or driving the car. If you don't do this sort of thing in group rides...oh the carnage. I'll pull out with someone else passing but always give them first go.

It's just polite really. Where's the manners gone?

Had a similar situation happen to me, except it was a Land Rover following me. The wife was behind me on her bike, then it was the LR. Saw a straight (no I didn't check the mirror) and I gunned it, then I saw a bloody green thing in the mirror. Dunno if I pulled out in front of him but I made the stupid mistake of assuming everyone follows a similar logic to me. A quick lesson learned.

[Rodney007]

WAAAAAaaaaaaaaa WWWAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaa

do you come here and moan about how toilet paper sticks to your ass?

[Maha]

WAAAAAaaaaaaaaa WWWAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaa

do you come here and moan about how toilet paper sticks to your ass?

Is that directed at me??

[Rodney007]

Is that directed at me??

for anyone that uses a toilet

[Maha]

for anyone that uses a toilet

Not man enough to own it eh?
Well, I use wet wipes for starters..

And please please point out where I am moaning?

[mynameis]

Obsolutely, you see why they always say sorry didn't see ya. Sometimes we even go where the hell did you come from :lol:

[Rodney007]

Not man enough to own it eh?
Well, I use wet wipes for starters..

And please please point out where I am moaning?

no im not man enough, im actualy a whimpy little white boy with no pubies.

[ynot slow]

Road code says look in mirrors every 3 seconds,easier said than done on a bike.
Is surprising how quick a bike or car can appear.

[Maha]

Obsolutely, you see why they always say sorry didn't see ya. Sometimes we even go where the hell did you come from :lol:

That has happened forom time to time, but never before at the point of me about to pass other vehicles (I better be careful what I say here. Rodney maybe watching) like I said in the 1st post 'no drama' and the other bike did not vanish off into the distance. When I approaching another bike (which is a rear thing :rolleyes:) I would look at thier helmet to judge head movement and conclude that they have seen me (its just what I do) This sort of thing can happen on passing lanes/motorways also, you maybe in the outside lane and someone wants a bit of your space.

[dipshit]

I always follow the "first-in-line" principle. But it goes for anything, if I come up to the back of a few vehicles, I wait to see if the person in front of me wants to pass first. They were there first so they have the right to pass first. If they still don't, then it's my turn. I do this with group rides or driving the car.

I take the same approach too. And even if i am passing another bike, i still move completely into the other lane to make the pass. The extra time waiting for the other lane to be clear enough, is extra time for the bike in front to notice me in their mirrors.

I have seen too many dumb/lazy as fuck motorcyclists that think they can just push past in the one lane or on the centre line to overtake another bike. No courtesy whatsoever.

[Voltaire]

Had a similar one last year on a classic bike run , I was part way thru passing a car when another bike overtook me...to my suprise.
Turned out his bike had no current rego or wof....so in hindsight not surprised.
Put me off group rides with riders I don't know.

[GOONR]

WAAAAAaaaaaaaaa WWWAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaa

So you have heard my bike then, il4 250, sounds just like that.....:laugh:

[Headbanger]

WAAAAAaaaaaaaaa WWWAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaa

do you come here and moan about how toilet paper sticks to your ass?

Toilet paper sticks to your arse?

WTF have you been eating?, My poo is slick as....

[PrincessBandit]

On the motorway this week I had another rider come up behind me but instead of passing in the other lane he sat just back from my right hip for a while. I even slowed so he could get in front of me but he seemed quite content to just sit in my mirror. He did eventually pass only to slow, then I took off past him up the Bombays. I'm now starting to wonder when my ticket is going to arrive in the post.....perhaps he saw a stationary van which I missed......shit!

[Ms Piggy]

to make sure that other bike knows you are there?
On my 5 day a week commute into work if I end up directly behind another rider I make sure they know I'm there by waiting until they've looked in their mirrors etc. before I pass them. And if another rider is behind me and we're lane splitting I'll shift back into the lane so they can get past me.

My pet peeve when commuting is riders who hold up others by not merging back into traffic when a rider is behind them and clearly wanting to get past. I assume it's partly cos they're not checking their mirrors enough or don't give a rats arse. Sorry that might be a little :Offtopic:

[Maha]

On my 5 day a week commute into work if I end up directly behind another rider I make sure they know I'm there by waiting until they've looked in their mirrors etc. before I pass them. And if another rider is behind me and we're lane splitting I'll shift back into the lane so they can get past me.

My pet peeve when commuting is riders who hold up others by not merging back into traffic when a rider is behind them and clearly wanting to get past. I assume it's partly cos they're not checking their mirrors enough or don't give a rats arse. Sorry that might be a little :Offtopic:

The topic is 'common courtesy' and that covers more than what I first spoke about. I hear what you are say about merging, if I were to pass and there was a bike following me I get back into line and go to the left of my lane to give the other rider room, its not difficult.

[Ms Piggy]

The topic is 'common courtesy' and that covers more than what I first spoke about. I hear what you are say about merging, if I were to pass and there was a bike following me I get back into line and go to the left of my lane to give the other rider room, its the difficult.

Yeah that's what I was meaning...obviously where practical and possible. I wonder if courtesy is also about safety? That whole idea of riding like everyone on the road is out to get ya. Not in a paranoid way but basically always being alert to what's around us...I've failed that one several times though myself :pinch:

[CookMySock]

I made the stupid mistake of assuming everyone follows a similar logic to me. A quick lesson learned.This is what I was hinting at earlier. If we all just follow what the law says, then there are no surprises. There are times and places for bending the rules, as bikers do, but you carry the can.

Steve

[cs363]

I always follow the "first-in-line" principle. But it goes for anything, if I come up to the back of a few vehicles, I wait to see if the person in front of me wants to pass first. They were there first so they have the right to pass first. If they still don't, then it's my turn. I do this with group rides or driving the car. If you don't do this sort of thing in group rides...oh the carnage. I'll pull out with someone else passing but always give them first go.

It's just polite really. Where's the manners gone?

Likewise, though as far as group rides go I'm not a big fan and rarely ride in big groups as there always seems to be at least one idiot with penis size compensation issues...

Manners, common courtesy and common sense are all very rare things these days.

[gatch]

If I catch up to someone on a bike that I don't know, then I make sure that I drop back a few hundred meters then cane it past as close and as fast as possible, just so they know I'm the fuckin man.

If its someone I know, then I hit their kill switch for added street creds, then text them later to give them shit about riding like such a homo.

Whats this bollocks about curtasy ?

[mstriumph]

.................... But there are times when even bikers dont see other bikers.

some call me a cynic .......... i prefer to call myself a realist

truth is i view EVERY OTHER ROAD USER I DON'T KNOW PERSONALLY, cage truck or bike, before or behind, as a source of potential threat and stupidity and treat them accordingly ... ie monitor them with wary suspicion until i'm safely out of range

i'd LIKE to think that Bikers are superior road users in all respects, truth is if they've been riding for a number of years they probably are ............... but, unfortunately, in a road situation i don't have time or inclination to quiz them about their experience nor the xray eyes needed to see thru their full-face and count their wrinkles .............. therefore i treat them all as fuckwits and ride, whilst in their vicinity, to suit.

:rolleyes:

[caseye]

If I catch up to someone on a bike that I don't know, then I make sure that I drop back a few hundred meters then cane it past as close and as fast as possible, just so they know I'm the fuckin man.

If its someone I know, then I hit their kill switch for added street creds, then text them later to give them shit about riding like such a homo.

Whats this bollocks about curtasy ?

LOL Gatch! Tui's anyone?

Maha, it's a timely reminder that just because we are riding bikes it's not enough to assume anything.I check often to but like Voli I've been caught in the same trap, head check is the best bet.

[Ypawa]

[QUOTE=DangerousBastard;1129463599]This is what I was hinting at earlier. If we all just follow what the law says, then there are no surprises. There are times and places for bending the rules, as bikers do, but you carry the can.

Best advice ive seen , plain & simple :cool:

[howdamnhard]

I always follow the "first-in-line" principle. But it goes for anything, if I come up to the back of a few vehicles, I wait to see if the person in front of me wants to pass first. They were there first so they have the right to pass first. If they still don't, then it's my turn. I do this with group rides or driving the car. If you don't do this sort of thing in group rides...oh the carnage. I'll pull out with someone else passing but always give them first go.
I do the same but check my mirrors and do a headcheck ( blindspot can be a bitch) before moving out to overtake. When I overtake them I do it as quickly as possible(fuck the speed limit) with clear road in front of me.( I'm a scaredy cat).:baby:

[gatch]

LOL Gatch! Tui's anyone?

Maha, it's a timely reminder that just because we are riding bikes it's not enough to assume anything.I check often to but like Voli I've been caught in the same trap, head check is the best bet.

Tui for sure, I pass other bikes the same way as any other traffic. I figure its your own responsibility to look after yourself on the road yeah ? Indicate and leave plenty of space, what else can be reasonably expected ?

[ajturbo]

If I catch up to someone on a bike that I don't know, then I make sure that I drop back a few hundred meters then cane it past as close and as fast as possible, just so they know I'm the fuckin man.

If its someone I know, then I hit their kill switch for added street creds, then text them later to give them shit about riding like such a homo.

Whats this bollocks about curtasy ?
LOVE your style man...!!

i like what you do with kill switch/txt.... i will be trying that next time....!!!


hahahahahahaha:banana:

[CookMySock]

truth is i view EVERY OTHER ROAD USER I DON'T KNOW PERSONALLY, cage truck or bike, before or behind, as a source of potential threat and stupidity and treat them accordingly ... ie monitor them with wary suspicion until i'm safely out of range

i'd LIKE to think that Bikers are superior road users in all respects, truth is if they've been riding for a number of years they probably are ............... but, unfortunately, in a road situation i don't have time or inclination to quiz them about their experience nor the xray eyes needed to see thru their full-face and count their wrinkles .............. therefore i treat them all as fuckwits and ride, whilst in their vicinity, to suit.Gee you need a hug ay?

Not all bikers are like that, by a wide margin. I have never ever had any biker demonstrate how much of an asshole they can be.

I always always approach with caution and usually ride along for while as a gesture of friendship. Strangely, a few have regarded me with great suspicion when I do this.. Too many wrinkles? :(

Steve

[caseye]

Gee you need a hug ay?

Not all bikers are like that, by a wide margin. I have never ever had any biker demonstrate how much of an asshole they can be.

I always always approach with caution and usually ride along for while as a gesture of friendship. Strangely, a few have regarded me with great suspicion when I do this.. Too many wrinkles? :(

Steve

You wrinkles? never. LOL nice one DB, is good advice and yes some do seem to sit back and look suspiciously over their shoulder at you.:banana:

[Chrislost]

So you have heard my bike then, il4 250, sounds just like that.....:laugh:

Your probably the c-unit that sped up my road before, earning me a lecture from a neighbour as i took my bike out to do exactly the same.

[GOONR]

Your probably the c-unit that sped up my road before, earning me a lecture from a neighbour as i took my bike out to do exactly the same.Nope not me, my bike ain't been out since Friday, sad I know.

[george formby]

I been caught the same way once or twice. I use my mirrors a LOT & turn for a life saver 99% of the time. 1% of the time I've had a scare & a wobble. Last summer a rider sat right on my shoulder in the blind spot, finally passed me inches away, when I noticed them, they then sat 2 feet behind the middle of a campervan, swerving out to see if they could overtake. The big quarry lorry coming the other way looked like it scared them! I guess it shows the importance of good habits & good observation but also the limits of the human condition. If I'm not sure when I overtake I will give a courtesy flash of the headlight or even a wee toot on the horn. I maybe misjudged & thought of as being aggressive but I am seen & thats the bottom line.

[Pixie]

Yeah, I agree. I try to ensure the rider has seen me behind him but the same has happened to me and I've been surprised not to have noticed a biker coming up behind me. I feel it was at least in part my fault for not being aware, I had my mind on other things, or was concentrating on traffic ahead. Usually I am checking my mirrors constantly in traffic.

It's a wonder you did hear the loud exhaust,as we all know loud exhausts are good because they let people know when we are approaching them.