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mnkyboy
17th October 2009, 01:04
Ducati M900
At the end of the braking procedure ie ~5kph I get an annoying amount of brake shudder.
I have taken the calipers off and checked pads - needed a slight clean-up but nothing major. Re bled lines. Checked for warped discs.
Any other avenues to look at?
Cheers
one fast tl1ooo
17th October 2009, 06:25
It know's acc is coming, :oi-grr:
greenman
17th October 2009, 17:42
I had a bike that did this too. Only when braking lightly a low speeds. Disks and pads were fine, there were no seized pistons, it was just what it did.
Solution is to brake harder, and don't go looking for it.
The Pastor
17th October 2009, 21:38
check your wheel alignment could be wheel bearings too could be load of things actually.
F5 Dave
18th October 2009, 20:20
Residue on discs (and pads) can cause this. Disc warp is usually felt at higher speed as well & through the lever as well.
mossy1200
18th October 2009, 20:26
Clean and check the rivit pins on the discs.
nothingflash
18th October 2009, 20:28
I had a bike that did this too. Only when braking lightly a low speeds. Disks and pads were fine, there were no seized pistons, it was just what it did.
Solution is to brake harder, and don't go looking for it.
If it were me I'd get it looked at (depending on your DIY skill) given this is the difference between stopping and hitting something hard.
oldrider
28th October 2009, 21:58
Ducati M900
At the end of the braking procedure ie ~5kph I get an annoying amount of brake shudder.
I have taken the calipers off and checked pads - needed a slight clean-up but nothing major. Re bled lines. Checked for warped discs.
Any other avenues to look at?
Cheers
Yes, buckled wheel! (perhaps)
Get it spun and checked between centres! (in a lathe big enough for the job)
The axis between the axle, the brake disk's and/or the rim could be out of line with each other!
Sensei
28th October 2009, 22:51
Warped disc's show up as pulsing throught the brake lever when held on slightly , Headset bearing been loose is the first place to look then as pointed out the rotor button's may have become tight with dirt & need to be brakeclean washed & free'd up by turning back & forward .
CeeBee
24th November 2009, 14:38
Put a DTI gauge on the disc and check run out, this is the only way you will check a disc for warp, Max runout usually 002".
Trudes
24th November 2009, 16:30
Make sure your elbows are not straight and locked when braking, I found having bent elbows under braking stopped my shudder.
oldrider
22nd January 2010, 12:23
Ducati M900
At the end of the braking procedure ie ~5kph I get an annoying amount of brake shudder.
I have taken the calipers off and checked pads - needed a slight clean-up but nothing major. Re bled lines. Checked for warped discs.
Any other avenues to look at?
Cheers
Well, you posted this on the 17 October...........................so now you can post up just what your problem turned out to be and what the final solution was!
Or is this just another open ended inconclusive waste of time KB "please help me" threads, that are far too prevalent on here!
vifferman
22nd January 2010, 12:56
When I bought the VFR 5+ years ago, the brakes had a terrible shudder. I took the bike back and asked them to check the disk's runout. They said they checked it and it was "within limits". I assumed it was the disks, as one was a different grade steel to the other, and had some rusty/corroded patches on it. Some heavyish braking cleaned this off, and the shuddering lessened somewhat. However, it wasn't until I had the pads replaced that the problem disappeared altogether - one of the pads was badly (and unevenly) worn, possibly due to poor installation and/or maintenance.
Interestingly (or perhaps not...) I've always used SBS pads, up until Cycletreads recently replaced them with Ferodos (without asking me what brand I wanted). I dunno if it's because they're a more metal-rick compound or what, but they seem to be harder and more abrasive, and now the disk's surfaces are smoother and shinier than ever. I don't know how this bodes for disk life, but once they'd bedded in properly, the braking improved.
kwaka_crasher
22nd January 2010, 14:15
Or is this just another open ended inconclusive waste of time KB "please help me" threads, that are far too prevalent on here!
Yeah, pisses you off how selfish and self-centred people can be, doesn't it.
He's over here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/117212-Duc-slipper-clutch?p=1129616974#post1129616974) now asking about slipper clutches. I say fook 'em.
steve_t
22nd January 2010, 15:01
+1 for thinking if the discs are straight, that new pads will sort you out :niceone:
mnkyboy
23rd January 2010, 09:19
LOL
I didn't realise that it was obligitory to comment on everything posted on the internet.
I suspect that I had residue on the pads - After some heavy braking on the track the problem has gone.
F5 Dave
23rd January 2010, 09:25
Well perhaps you did get the rough end of the treatment, but I suppose it is polite to feedback the results so that people can find what worked for others, or perhaps even say thanks if someone's advice helped.
kwaka_crasher
23rd January 2010, 11:54
I didn't realise that it was obligitory to comment on everything posted on the internet.
It's not. I haven't replied to everything on the internet.
It comes down to manners. If you asked someone something in person and they took the time to reply, would you just turn around and walk off without a word?
mnkyboy
23rd January 2010, 13:15
It's not. I haven't replied to everything on the internet.
It comes down to manners. If you asked someone something in person and they took the time to reply, would you just turn around and walk off without a word?
Fair enough - I do appreciate the advice given.
TBH i was going to reply but the last 2 -3 months has been a crazy time.
kwaka_crasher
23rd January 2010, 14:42
TBH i was going to reply but the last 2 -3 months has been a crazy time.
I can appreciate that.. I bought something on TM and completely forgot about it until I got the reminder to place feedback!
FROSTY
25th January 2010, 20:35
I recently had someone here with a yamaha YZF. Hellof a racket from the front end. Pulled the bad mounting pins and they were pretty badly worn. allowingthe pads to rattle around really badly--New pins and back to a quiet front end
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