BIKOI - When?

[Ixion]

I need some discussion about the timing of the BIKOI, before Wednesday's meeting.


Firstly, the general when.

Firstly, we need to bear in mind that things take time to organise. People need to apply for time off work, accomodation needs be organised, people need to remember where they left the bike and so on.

Secondly, we want to time it for maximum impact on the people that matter, viz the politicians.

In that regard we need to do it while Parliament is still in session . According to their website (Parliament has a web site. How RADICAL) the House sits on Nov 17, 18, 19, 24, 25 and 26 and Dec 8, 9, 10, 15, 16, 17 and 22. Which my calender says are Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays. Nice life for some. But, awkward for us.

I think that we don't need to do anything UNTIL Novemeber, submissions don't close until the 10th. Until then the only people interested are the ACC, and it's not them we're trying to convince. They've already made their minds up. We want maximum presence around the time the pollies are considering the ACCs formal proposals. I'm guessing a couple of weeks after submissions close?

Thirdly, we need to bear in mind that some folk will be coming from quite a distance. We are not all hard men who can ride 600km in a few hours - there may be small bikes along (I certainly hope so) , even learners. And it's no good blasting down and getting there at 7pm ( or, much worse, crashing on the way! PLEASE, no bins, folks) . So, for some, there'll need to be an overnight stop on the way.

Fourth. We don't want to piss of the general public . Pollies, yes. Sheeple, yes. ACC definately. But not Joe Citizen, that keen and incisive thinker. We want him on our side, which is hard to manage if he's three hours late home or to work, cos a bunch of bikers locked up the motorway (Do they have motorways in Wellington ? Just askin').

From the POV of people being able to get there, I'd suggest

A mass meeting somewhere in Welly on Sunday middayish. Almost everybody should be able to make that. Real far flung types can leave Saturday, overnight somewhere short of Welly and roll in Sunday morning. Closer types , obviously hit the road early Sunday.

That can make it no time off work for most if that's important. At worst, one day.

Then those that can stay in Welly Sunday night and Monday morning mount a formal protest to deliver the petition (we need to have one to legitimise being in Parliament grounds- every subject may petition the Crown)

That works, sort of. It has logistic advantages re time off work. And holding the mass protest meeting on Sunday, shouldn't cause any major congestion to annoy people that we don't want annoyed.

But based on the above , Monday may not be a good day for it?

Moving it forward a day to Monday/Tuesday is OK for travel, people can travel down on Sunday, but it means more time off work ? And dumping dozens (OK, I'm cynical - I don't believe many wil stay the distance) into Wellington traffic on Monday may not be a good look?

And how does all of this work for Souf Islanders?

Give me some thoughts please folks. Then I'll put up a poll to choose between the popular options. It would probably help if you indicate what area you are coming from

[davereid]

Burt Monroe Rally is end of November.. Lots of Norf Islanders may be coming back from there about 1-2 Dec

[Skyryder]

I need some discussion about the timing of the BIKOI, before Wednesday's meeting.


Firstly, the general when.

Firstly, we need to bear in mind that things take time to organise. People need to apply for time off work, accomodation needs be organised, people need to remember where they left the bike and so on.

Secondly, we want to time it for maximum impact on the people that matter, viz the politicians.

In that regard we need to do it while Parliament is still in session . According to their website (Parliament has a web site. How RADICAL) the House sits on Nov 17, 18, 19, 24, 25 and 26 and Dec 8, 9, 10, 15, 16, 17 and 22. Which my calender says are Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays. Nice life for some. But, awkward for us.




I think that we don't need to do anything UNTIL Novemeber, submissions don't close until the 10th. Until then the only people interested are the ACC, and it's not them we're trying to convince. They've already made their minds up. We want maximum presence around the time the pollies are considering the ACCs formal proposals. I'm guessing a couple of weeks after submissions close?

Thirdly, we need to bear in mind that some folk will be coming from quite a distance. We are not all hard men who can ride 600km in a few hours - there may be small bikes along (I certainly hope so) , even learners. And it's no good blasting down and getting there at 7pm ( or, much worse, crashing on the way! PLEASE, no bins, folks) . So, for some, there'll need to be an overnight stop on the way.

Fourth. We don't want to piss of the general public . Pollies, yes. Sheeple, yes. ACC definately. But not Joe Citizen, that keen and incisive thinker. We want him on our side, which is hard to manage if he's three hours late home or to work, cos a bunch of bikers locked up the motorway (Do they have motorways in Wellington ? Just askin').

From the POV of people being able to get there, I'd suggest

A mass meeting somewhere in Welly on Sunday middayish. Almost everybody should be able to make that. Real far flung types can leave Saturday, overnight somewhere short of Welly and roll in Sunday morning. Closer types , obviously hit the road early Sunday.

That can make it no time off work for most if that's important. At worst, one day.

Then those that can stay in Welly Sunday night and Monday morning mount a formal protest to deliver the petition (we need to have one to legitimise being in Parliament grounds- every subject may petition the Crown)

That works, sort of. It has logistic advantages re time off work. And holding the mass protest meeting on Sunday, shouldn't cause any major congestion to annoy people that we don't want annoyed.

But based on the above , Monday may not be a good day for it?

Moving it forward a day to Monday/Tuesday is OK for travel, people can travel down on Sunday, but it means more time off work ? And dumping dozens (OK, I'm cynical - I don't believe many wil stay the distance) into Wellington traffic on Monday may not be a good look?

And how does all of this work for Souf Islanders?

Give me some thoughts please folks. Then I'll put up a poll to choose between the popular options. It would probably help if you indicate what area you are coming from

Depends on the number of South island bikes that will be attending. The biggest problem is getting across the straight and the time it will take to get back home; distance etc. But the other option and this has been mentioned in another thread is a 'gathering' in Smith's electorate of Nelson to coincide with the parliment protest. If there was a long weekend that would be different but the Nelson ride could be accomplished in a normal weekend. I know Smith will not be there but it is the unity of bikers that will be noticed.

Just a thought.


Skyrder

[Maha]

So its looking like, make your own way day there on the elected day? no Pied Piper senario? smaller groups possibly? which is good idea.
You may have to just choose a day Ixion, putting a poll up wont really achieve anything really accept 'oh fuck I cant go on that day'.
If a date is set now, then everyone who wishes to attend can start arranging thier life around it now, may get too hard to sort things 10 days out.

[Ixion]

So its looking like, make your own way day there on the elected day? no Pied Piper senario? smaller groups possibly? which is good idea.
You may have to just choose a day Ixion, putting a poll up wont really achieve anything really accept 'oh fuck I cant go on that day'.
If a date is set now, then everyone who wishes to attend can start arranging thier life around it now, may get too hard to sort things 10 days out.

My idea is the regional coordinators (once we get them) can lead a group from their area. It would be desireable to ahve some sort of group arrangement, for the larger areas. If nothing else, this may be a lot longer trip than some have done, they may feel better for support around them. But some folk will prefer to make their own way , especially if they can arrange accomodation along the way.

Others may link into a regional group along the way.

Best not to have the groups too large. Large groups need more sheparding. And smaller groups make it hard for the cops in case they are instructed to stop us.

[Maha]

My idea is the regional coordinators (once we get them) can lead a group from their area. It would be desireable to ahve some sort of group arrangement, for the larger areas. If nothing else, this may be a lot longer trip than some have done, they may feel better for support around them. But some folk will prefer to make their own way , especially if they can arrange accomodation along the way.

Others may link into a regional group along the way.

Best not to have the groups too large. Large groups need more sheparding. And smaller groups make it hard for the cops in case they are instructed to stop us.

Can I suggest they each start a seperate regional thread?
I did that with my Westpac Rides last year and it worked out well.

[GOONR]

Can I suggest they each start a seperate regional thread?
I did that with my Westpac Rides last year and it work out well.

I like this idea, I doubt that I would be able to get to welly but really want to add my support, a local thread will mean I won't miss anything relevant to my area.

[Jantar]

The ferry timetable is:

InterIslander
Depart Picton Arrive Wellington
6:25am 9:35am
10:05am 1:15pm
1:10pm 4:20pm
2:25pm 5:35pm
6:05pm 9:15pm
10:25pm 1:35am

Bluebridge
Departs Picton * 2.00am except Sunday Arrives Wellington 5.20am
Departs Picton 8.00am except Saturday Arrives Wellington 11.20am
Departs Picton 2.00pm Arrives Wellington 5.20pm
Departs Picton 7.00pm Arrives Wellington 10.20pm

For Central Otago riders that would take 2 days to get to Wellington, 1 day there, and 2 days to return, so the actual day of the week won't make much difference. I would suggest that whatever day is decided, CO riders would go to Christchurch on day 1, Picton the next morning and catch the 2:00pm or 2:25pm crossing to Wellington.

While I like the idea of the group of motorcyclist getting larger all the way, I can see merit in lots of smaller groups.

[Mully]

I can't really make it to Wellington this year (can't take any leave cos of the wedding in December)...

I'm happy to be part of a group that goes from say Maha's place to John Key's office (I'd like to detour past his house too - 100 bikers cruising gently through Parnell would be awesome)

If we were going to have N00bs riding from, say, Hamilton, I'm happy to ride there and escort them back up to Key's office.

Pick a weekend - I'll make the time.

[cs363]

I'm in for a protest ride in Wellington whatever the day.

November 5th appeals as a day for an assault on parliament....

[Fatt Max]

Dont know if this would have legs but of there are people who cant make it to Welly, there could always be a co-ordinated protest outside the central ACC offices around the country.....

Appreciate it is the politicians we are getting into but profile is profile....??

The focus is for as many of us to get to welly as possible but a united fornt nationally would not go unnoticed.

Just a thought

[Ixion]

Yep. regional BIKOI. They're in the plan.

[StoneY]

Yep. regional BIKOI. They're in the plan.

I vote for Nov 17

Great way to spend my birthday!
Kicking polliticians in the nads

:2thumbsup

[Katman]

I'm lucky. I can tell the boss to go fuck himself.

I'll take off whatever time is nescessary.

[Mully]

I'm lucky. I can tell the boss to go fuck himself.

I'll take off whatever time is nescessary.

Yeah, well. I've heard about your boss......

[Katman]

Yeah, well. I've heard about your boss......

Yeah, he's a miserable old prick.

:msn-wink:

[klingon]

Ixion, you are right about the sitting schedule in the House. MPs are in the debating chamber on Tuesdays and Wednesdays from (I think) 2pm until 10pm and Thursdays 2pm until 6pm. That is the only time they are required to be in the Beehive. The rest of the time on those days they tend to be in their offices (somewhere in the parliamentary complex).

On Mondays and Fridays MPs are generally in their 'home' electorates, or travelling elsewhere in the country for pre-arranged meetings.

So if we want to give sympathetic MPs an opportunity to meet with us (and everyone else an opportunity to look out their office windows and see us arriving en masse) then we would be best to be there Tuesday lunchtime-ish. That is also when the political journos are most likely to be there.

[klingon]

I would also like a wee bit of clarification about what we want to do when we get there. I assume it will primarily be a media event so we want the spectacle of us all arriving and gathering, with flags etc.

Will we present the petition to an MP on the steps of parliament? It seems traditional with this kind of thing - and gives the cameras something to focus on. Also gives people who can't make it there on the day an opportunity to add their voice.

I assume there will be a speech from that BRONZ guy - will speeches also be invited from politicians? Others?

[cs363]

I'm lucky. I can tell the boss to go fuck himself.

You're not the only one, if some of the posts on KB are anything to go by... :dodge: :lol:

[Katman]

You're not the only one, if some of the posts on KB are anything to go by... :dodge: :lol:

If I had a dollar............

[klingon]

By the way, my vote is for November 17th :)

[The Stranger]

I'm lucky. I can tell the boss to go fuck himself.

I'll take off whatever time is nescessary.

I note a lot of people tell your boss to go fuck himself.

[Katman]

I note a lot of people tell your boss to go fuck himself.

Yep, he can't claim he's not used to it.

[veny]

Well this noob poster but long time rider might be keen to make the journey to Wellington. Probably others from the SI. But where the hell would everyone stay? Under the stars? What if it's pissing down?

Or maybe just keep an eye out for a local bikoi...
Except, no parliament down here to make as much of an impact.

[Ixion]

I would also like a wee bit of clarification about what we want to do when we get there. I assume it will primarily be a media event so we want the spectacle of us all arriving and gathering, with flags etc.

Will we present the petition to an MP on the steps of parliament? It seems traditional with this kind of thing - and gives the cameras something to focus on. Also gives people who can't make it there on the day an opportunity to add their voice.

I assume there will be a speech from that BRONZ guy - will speeches also be invited from politicians? Others?

Yes, primarily PR. And, somewhat , to send the "oh-er what a lot of upset voters".

The petition thing is customary- and technically is the reason why they can't keep you out , since every subject is entitled to petition the Crown.


If Mr Smith had the guts to front up (not expecting it) I guess we'd have to let him make a speech. Wouldn't go far as to say that Parliament is the olny place we'd be visiting.

BTW - does anyone know which seats are marginal National?

[klingon]

Also keep in mind it's not just National we are trying to influence. In the end their MPs will be instructed how to vote (this won't be a conscience vote). We are also (more?) trying to influence their coalition partners and/or those who might vote with them to get the legislation through.

Act and the Maori Party will be the ones National expects to be on their side.

Also United Future, Greens, Progressives (Jim Anderton) et al

[Maha]

Also keep in mind it's not just National we are trying to influence. In the end their MPs will be instructed how to vote (this won't be a conscience vote). We are also (more?) trying to influence their coalition partners and/or those who might vote with them to get the legislation through.

Act and the Maori Party will be the ones National expects to be on their side.

Also United Future, Greens, Progressives (Jim Anderton) et al

True, very true, now where does Rodney Hyde hide?
Might invite him for a pillion ride on the day....:cool:

[Ixion]

No legislation to get through, it's a Minister's decision.

Other parties aren't likely to figure us being pissed off with them , and voting accordingly.

Though if there are any sympathetic MPs amongst other parties, we'll try to butter them up

So far, we have Rick Barker and Darien Fenton .

EDIT: Strategically, an arguement could be made for trying to persuade Mr Hyde to attach the whole thing to the "privatise ACC" platform - thus at least delaying it. Complicated though, in the short time available .

[Ender EnZed]

BTW - does anyone know which seats are marginal National?

http://www.electionresults.govt.nz/electionresults_2008/electoratestatus.html

New Plymouth was extremly marginal. But anywhere with a small number in the right hand column (and a National incumbent) would be worth a protest.

[klingon]

http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/MPP/Parties/

It's all a numbers game. There are 122 MPs so 61 votes are needed to pass any piece of legislation.

National = 58 MPs
Labour = 43
Greens = 9
Act = 5
Maori Party = 5
Progressive = 1
United Future = 1

So if National can count on the support of either Act or the Maori Party, the legislation will go through. No individual National MP is going to put his/her job on the line by voting against the Govt.

[klingon]

No legislation to get through, it's a Minister's decision...

Oh yes - you posted this while I was working out my post.

You're right of course - it's the other changes to ACC that need legislation changes. The levy we're talking about is already enshrined in legislation, and the Minister can decide on the amount any time he likes. :rolleyes:

[Ixion]

http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/MPP/Parties/

It's all a numbers game. There are 122 MPs so 61 votes are needed to pass any piece of legislation.

National = 58 MPs
Labour = 43
Greens = 9
Act = 5
Maori Party = 5
Progressive = 1
United Future = 1

So if National can count on the support of either Act or the Maori Party, the legislation will go through. No individual National MP is going to put his/her job on the line by voting against the Govt.

Yes, but in this case there is no legislation. You're thinking of the amending ACC legislation that Smith is currently trying to put together. That's a completely different matter to our issue.

ACC levies are just signed off by the Minister under regulations.

So, if a few Nat MPs come along and whisper in his ear "Gee, Nick, don't you think we're upsetting those bikers a bit much, they've got votes remember, and there seem to be an awful lot of them in my electorate that are really pissed off with us. Just saying, for the good of the party, like", then Mr Smith may think a bit harder about the wisdom of said signing off.

[Mom]

Yeah, well. I've heard about your boss......

I have met him, reasonable bloke in the flesh, but dodgy as bro :yes:


If I had a dollar............

Me too, me too :sunny:


Well this noob poster but long time rider might be keen to make the journey to Wellington. Probably others from the SI. But where the hell would everyone stay? Under the stars? What if it's pissing down?


Or maybe just keep an eye out for a local bikoi...
Except, no parliament down here to make as much of an impact.

Dont stress too much about that, there are bikers around Welly that will offer up couches /beds/floors etc closer to time :yes: Great bunch those Welly mob :yes:

[Mom]

,
Give me some thoughts please folks. Then I'll put up a poll to choose between the popular options. It would probably help if you indicate what area you are coming from


Just a heads up Ixion. I am on first name basis with. and have the 24/7 mobile number of the motoring journalist for the Harold. He is not anti bike and loves a good story :yes:

I may, or may not have a heap of other media contacts too :innocent:

Whistle out, happy to make contact with people :yes:

[Mully]

True, very true, now where does Rodney Hyde hide?

Isn't he the member for Parnell - near a certain Mr Key's whare?



Waitakere could be a starter too (and a Minister)- what true Westy wouldn't be pro bike.


We could probably get Paula Bennett to go pillion... She seems like she would. I'm happy to deliver anything (legal) to Ms Bennet if we go that way.

And David Cunliffe is gunning for the top Labour job - he'll media whore for anyone. So will Lynne Pillay to desperately keep herself relevant (specially since she thought her seat was safe last year.....) Phil Goff's a waste of skin, so no point in asking him to help. (less popular than "margin of error" as I understand)

[cheesemethod]

Anybody feel like crashing a party tomorrow?
http://www.national.org.nz/Events/DisplayEvent.aspx?EventID=1554

[Ixion]

The more media the better. Once we have firm dates n such wheel them in

Is there any particular date sthat are better/badder from a media point of view - eg do they all spend Friday getting pissed or such like?

In the meantime, you COULD start dropping mysterious hints about "this BIKEOI things that's going down next month . Any idea what it is ? "

[taff1954]

And of the Naki crew fancy a wee ride to the National party headquarters in New Plymouth?


More than happy to let Mr. Young know that there's more than a few people here in the 'Naki who won't want to vote National..........

[cheesemethod]

I also work for a media establishment and will be letting the news producer know all the details.

[Ixion]

3pm . Mangere. Sounds like a starter, if we could must a decent roundup of bikes. We'd need at least a hundred or so to be impressive.

Won't get near him. too many cops with bangbangs round him. But if they have to smuggle him out the back way , he's bound to ask why.

Nothing illegal, of course :innocent:. Just citizens exercising their civl right to congreate, and protest.

Could be a good chance to kick off.

Weathers ungood , but.

We'd need some banners.

And we STILL don't have a slogan.

[Ixion]

More than happy to let Mr. Young know that there's more than a few people here in the 'Naki who won't want to vote National..........

Can you set up a date? Next few weeks or so?

We'll do a media release beforehand. Which means that there'll probably be a cop presence when you get there, but that's fine. We don't want to give him the bash or anything, just point out that he's pissing off the people he depends on for his cushy mealticket.

[klingon]

3pm . Mangere. Sounds like a starter, if we could must a decent roundup of bikes. We'd need at least a hundred or so to be impressive.

Won't get near him. too many cops with bangbangs round him. But if they have to smuggle him out the back way , he's bound to ask why.

Nothing illegal, of course :innocent:. Just citizens exercising their civl right to congreate, and protest.

Could be a good chance to kick off.

Weathers ungood , but.

We'd need some banners.

And we STILL don't have a slogan.

This event needs a new thread. Yay! Bikoi Part I

[cs363]

Hm. Auckland Central has GOT to be a starter - all those scooters!

Nikki Kaye is a mountain biker, so may have some sympathy for two wheelers?

[taff1954]

KBers in the 'Naki PM me, let's see if we can get the ball rolling here..........

[cs363]

KBers in the 'Naki PM me, let's see if we can get the ball rolling here..........

Should start a new thread on that, discuss the best date and then put an entry in the KB calendar. Then people can add their names to the list of riders.

[Katman]

Post deleted , by *someone*. So I guess I won't be contacting her after all.

And, you take that line with me again lad, and we'll be having words, and not nice ones.

What WILL fuck us over badly is if your obsessional rancid hatred of every other motorcyclist gets picked up on. "Taupo motorcycle dealer admits that motorcyclists are dangerous , selfish etc etc and definately deserve to be taxed off the roads". Just what we need. You sort *YOUR* shitt out, and rein in your "Everything in the world is our fault and we all deserve to suffer horribly" shit until this is over.

I'm planning on being there on Wednesday night. (And yes, by that time my cheque should be banked so I will be a financial member of BRONZ).

You can then take whatever line with me you like.

If you are placing yourself as a figure head for this action you would be well advised to think before you open your mouth.

[pzkpfw]

If you are placing yourself as a figure head for this action you would be well advised to think before you open your mouth.

There's no time for a (new) vote on who is "figurehead", and someone needs to do it, so just fucking back off.

This is not the time for inter-rider bickering. (Geez, today I waved at a scooter. (Poor bugger nearly fell off)).

You may not like that particular word from Ixion, but I think it was well advised. I think that politicain needs to know how unhappy we are. Ixion was not suggesting we crap on his letter-box or something.

There's also not much time available to have every statement run through the Katman "will this offend little old lady's" filter.


Edit: sadly I've just realised the jury service I signed up for before this ACC thing came out (see what a good citizen I am?) may mean I can't legally join the ride. If that's the case (depends exactly when the ride is) I hereby offer to Ixion to pay half the cost of his petrol during the protest. As thanks for doing stuff for all of us.

[Little Miss Trouble]

I'm in, text going out to non-kbers now:D

[taff1954]

Should start a new thread on that, discuss the best date and then put an entry in the KB calendar. Then people can add their names to the list of riders.

Thanks, guess I should really have thought of that myself.. done

[GOONR]

Really?

So you're happy to have someone who has placed themselves at the forefront of protest action call a member of parliament that we are relying on 'bintys'.

What the fuck is that going to achieve?I'm just glad that someone has stood up and is organising something, and now is not the time for arguments.

[carver]

a lot of people are sympathetic to the cause, dont do a deliberate "piss off the public"

the truckers protest went well, follow that

[carver]

There's no time for a (new) vote on who is "figurehead", and someone needs to do it, so just fucking back off.

This is not the time for inter-rider bickering. (Geez, today I waved at a scooter. (Poor bugger nearly fell off)).

You may not like that particular word from Ixion, but I think it was well advised. I think that politicain needs to know how unhappy we are. Ixion was not suggesting we crap on his letter-box or something.

There's also not much time available to have every statement run through the Katman "will this offend little old lady's" filter.


Edit: sadly I've just realised the jury service I signed up for before this ACC thing came out (see what a good citizen I am?) may mean I can't legally join the ride. If that's the case (depends exactly when the ride is) I hereby offer to Ixion to pay half the cost of his petrol during the protest. As thanks for doing stuff for all of us.

how about me?

[Ixion]

how about me?

I already elected you as Regional Cordinator for the Tron. Did I forget to mention it to you?

[Ixion]

Play nice?

I prefer to place my support with someone who understands the importance of a particular situation.

Refering to Members of Parliament, who we may well need to rely on the support of, as 'bints' is not going to do us any favours.

So, are you going to contact her or not? You can report results on Wednesday.

[carver]

I already elected you as Regional Cordinator for the Tron. Did I forget to mention it to you?

oh, sweet!
i already do it anyway for someone else

[Katman]

So, are you going to contact her or not? You can report results on Wednesday.

I thought you were going to contact her.

Just don't call her a 'bint'.

:weird:

[Ixion]

I thought you were going to contact her.

Just don't call her a 'bint'.

:weird:

No, I delegated it to you, in light of sensitivities and all that. In a post which also seems to have disappeared.

[GOONR]

....In a post which also seems to have disappeared.It's gone to Pointless Drivel. :girlfight:

[Smokin Joe]

Can I suggest that we liase with the Ulysses guys and maybe ride with them for the larger impact?

[Ixion]

We're looking at that, only thing is initial indication is that they don't want to do anything until january. When/if they do, we'll certainly look at joining them, but I don't know that it would be wise to defer all action until january (especially as the MPs are on holiday them )

[PrincessBandit]

It's gone to Pointless Drivel. :girlfight:

Yes, but I'm not sure why my post did when all i suggested was that courtesy and respect might be helpful when dealing with the people we hope might be assist our cause.

[la 102]

i want to be part of this. im from new plymouth, inda naki.
where do i go to be part of the 'bikoi'
cheers
:headbang:

[ital916]

You guys wanna get some numbers in auckland. Then you have to get students on our side. There are hundreds of riders at uni, give them a reason to protest (which they have) and they will protest. Im sure ixion has asked this of the auckland uni club.

[klingon]

You guys wanna get some numbers in auckland. Then you have to get students on our side. There are hundreds of riders at uni, give them a reason to protest (which they have) and they will protest. Im sure ixion has asked this of the auckland uni club.

The first protest is TOMORROW at 9:30am! See Ixion's calendar entry for more info.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=2198&day=2009-10-18&

How many protesting students do you think you could round up at short notice for a rainy Sunday morning? That will be a test of committment. :lol:

[ital916]

The first protest is TOMORROW at 9:30am! See Ixion's calendar entry for more info.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=2198&day=2009-10-18&

How many protesting students do you think you could round up at short notice for a rainy Sunday morning? That will be a test of committment. :lol:

Damn you and your logic to bloody hell. :girlfight:

[klingon]

Damn you and your logic to bloody hell. :girlfight:

:rofl:

Ah yes... I remember being a student a long, long time ago... rainy Sunday mornings were not my best time.

But this is important! :rolleyes:

[Ixion]

i want to be part of this. im from new plymouth, inda naki.
where do i go to be part of the 'bikoi'
cheers
:headbang:

Go to the Naki Regional Bikoi thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=110250)

[klingon]

Go to the Naki Regional Bikoi thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=110250)

Mr Ixion, your inbox is full.


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[StoneY]

Ok have we decided a date?

I have opened a Wellington dedicated Bikoi thread
Dates are needed now

I also think its time to get media sort of used to the word?? ;)

Has anyone told any reporters?

[ital916]

I have been saving a pitchfork for this very day.

I knew it would be used someday, I call it "stabbie"

Capable of impaling multiple politicians simulatenously. Even has a new age computer designed ergonomic grip for smoother stabbing action and clip for attaching lynching rope. Constructed from treated timber and carbon alloy steel, for greater strength and durability during repeated stabbings.

Oh yeah, I have been saving this for a big occassion. I will have to get the extra long burning mob torches out of the garage.

[Ixion]

Mr Ixion, your inbox is full.

I cleared some space. Actually I cleared some yesterday too, and it all gotten used up. So I've cleared some more.

[klingon]

I cleared some space. Actually I cleared some yesterday too, and it all gotten used up. So I've cleared some more.

I didn't actually have anything important to say to you. I'm just jealous that you are so popular that your inbox fills up. :cool:

[Bend-it]

Once the details are decided, can you update the 1st post, so people can see it there without going through 4 million posts... :)