Had a chat with a bike cop.

[skidMark]

Well he went past the almighty katana rrr...rr swung a U turn, i pulled into carpark, he never put his lights on...

but anyway hopped off my bike and there he was...

blah blah long story short license breaches the risk i took blah blah blah

i know...

what i do question is...

he would not let me ride home, said i effectively had no license because the bike was over cc, well... i have a bike learners... yes i was breaching license conditions, but as far as i am aware he cannot forbid me to ride it home, ie if you get pulled over for after hours on a car restricted license they let you drive home...

but no he said i should have also been forbidden to ride home other times i have been pulled over for license breaches... so i had to get my mate to come pick me up and a whole lot of fucking around just to get the bike home...

nothing i can do about the ticket i knew what would happen if i got stopped blah blah...

but i don't see how he can say no i wont let you ride home because you are in breach of a license condition, he said it is effectively the same as having no license...

which is a crock of shit...

i think our coppers need to do there homework, credit though he seemed a genuinely nice guy just doing his job, but i still think he had no right to forbid me to take it home because i would be breaching a license condition, in the past i have been told if you get pulled up on way home show them this ticket etc etc.

he told me i either had to have a mate with a full show up within 15 minutes to ride it home, or he would take the key to central so i couldn't ride it and to pick the key up later, he told me to push the bike home...

obviously i laughed in his face and told him i'm not pushing a 250kg bike 5km's of mostly steep uphill home...

they over pay cops.

EDIT: i am not over my demerits, nor am i disqualified he told me i was on 50 demerits and this ticket is another 25 demerits, yet forbid me to ride the bike, said i can still drive car etc obviously

[wbks]

cus your a wally and you let him get away with it

[R6_kid]

Cops are supposed to do the same for restricted drivers if they have passengers (kick the passengers out before they let the person go) or not let them drive off if after 10pm (depending on by how much obviously).

It's basically like saying "you're in trouble for doing this, but I'm going to let you continue breaking the law".

Sounds like you got your assed served to you. :clap:

[Big Dave]

cus your a wally and you let him get away with it

I strongly disagree. He would have got away with it anyway.

With you on the Wally part.

[PrincessBandit]

Oh dear Mark. You shouda' texted me. I'd have come and ridden your bike home for you.

Seriously though, even though it didn't turn out well good on ya for pulling over even if his lights weren't on. Could have been worse if you'd tried to do a runner....

[wbks]

NO skidmark you filthy nazi i will not bear your offspring RE rep

[paulmac]

He obviously doesn't know the law as well as you so ring his commander and offer your services !!!!!!!!

[Ender EnZed]

he never put his lights on...

Maybe I'm missing something. Why'd you pull over?

[skidMark]

Maybe I'm missing something. Why'd you pull over?


i pulled into a car park as if thats where i was going anyway, he was behind me and my rego was out so was hoping he wouldn't follow, i figured chances were he would light me up anyway.

so.... who wants a cheap katana/ swap for a 250...

[skidMark]

NO skidmark you filthy nazi i will not bear your offspring RE rep


awww u check your rep every 5 minutes, how adorable :girlfight:

[R6_kid]

:lol::lol::lol:

worlds smallest violin playing in the background...

[skidMark]

Cops are supposed to do the same for restricted drivers if they have passengers (kick the passengers out before they let the person go) or not let them drive off if after 10pm (depending on by how much obviously).

It's basically like saying "you're in trouble for doing this, but I'm going to let you continue breaking the law".

Sounds like you got your assed served to you. :clap:

i have had that problem nor anybody i know they give you the ticket then send you on your way.

[wbks]

awww u check your rep every 5 minutes, how adorable :girlfight:Not as adorable as an anti-semitic redneck with a mental age of 12...
Anyway... Was there really any problem with saying "yes I'll push it home" and riding it off the moment he left? He probably thought you were retarded for not doing that. Hes just doing his job and I'm sure as a bike rider he understands you aren't actually going to push that all the way

[skidMark]

Not as adorable as an anti-semitic redneck with a mental age of 12...
Anyway... Was there really any problem with saying "yes I'll push it home" and riding it off the moment he left? He probably thought you were retarded for not doing that. Hes just doing his job and I'm sure as a bike rider he understands you aren't actually going to push that all the way


read post one dick nose, he said if i didn't have a mate come he would take the keys so i would have to push it.

[wbks]

read post one dick nose, he said if i didn't have a mate come he would take the keys so i would have to push it.could have swore I hit a nerve with that post

[skidMark]

could have swore I hit a nerve with that post


Oh i thought you were writing an auto-biography?

[Big Dan]

could have swore I hit a nerve with that post

wbks: how can you hit a nerve when the person has no nerves :P

Seriously thou mark

you didn't bring this on yourself for drawing attention to yourself. The key to staying out of trouble is if a cop is following you just play it cool and not draw the attention of them by either erratic movements(like you did) or changing driving/riding style and acting nerveous







Waits for the bite of mark lol

[YellowDog]

I won't let my rego expire.

In other countries they can scan your rego from cameras above bridges.

At $750 a pop they may see a cost justiufication for doing the same here.

[Ixion]

We talked about that last night at the Chiller.

It's sort of self defeating - cos if cameras are checking regos cops won't bother (they don't really care all that much, assuming you're not being a dick). And the camera can't check that the rego matches the bike! Only knows the PLATE has a current rego.

[Milts]

Maybe he should have let you ride off, then stopped you half a block later and given you another ticket for riding outside your conditions again? Do you really see a problem in him not letting you ride home? Can you imagine if someone was driving drunk, got a ticket, then was able to continue driving home? Under the law that's very similar to what happened here, the theory is that you're not allowed a larger bike because it's dangerous until you've had 18 months or so experience on a smaller bike...

[dipshit]

What a loser.

[<G>]

Did he mention pies?

[pzkpfw]

Not that I'd suggest such a course of action, but it sounds like some people need to spend a couple of bucks getting spare keys made.

[steve_t]

How much longer u got on your learners?

[scumdog]

Maybe he should have let you ride off, then stopped you half a block later and given you another ticket for riding outside your conditions again? ...

Hoo-boy, imagine SMs screams THEN.!:crybaby:

(Would have been more sneakier to have called up a mate to wait down the road a bit - and just as SM is thinking all is sweet - BAM! - 'the man' gets him again..:doh:)

[ready4whatever]

should of killed him and hid his body in a nearby drain

[SMOKEU]

It's basically like saying "you're in trouble for doing this, but I'm going to let you continue breaking the law".


The cops let you drive/ride away if they green sticker your vehicle or hand out a fine for a noisy exhaust, among other things.

[shafty]

Grow up, take it on the chin or clean up ya act, don't moan about it here.

[Bend-it]

Grow up, take it on the chin or clean up ya act, don't moan about it here.

What else is KB for then, if not for moaning on?!?

ooh, and organising Bikois... :clap:

[Squiggles]

What he really means is... ride off and ill give you another for not listening the first time :msn-wink:

[Toot Toot]

Why the fuck havnt you got your full yet you fucking retarded fuckwit?
Grow up.

[Thaeos]

Why the fuck havnt you got your full yet you fucking retarded fuckwit?
Grow up.

lol... 10ch

[Donor]

Ah Toot - never afraid to ask the REAL question everyone else has avoided...

:edit:

The bike was more CCs than your current endorsement allows for.

Ergo, you have no endorsement for that bike, you are not permitted to operate it.

Same principle as an unlicensed car driver being forbidden to drive until they have attained the appropriate license.

So, WHO needs to do their homework Mark?

[p.dath]

I'm not familiar with the law in this area (confiscation of keys), but from the cops perspective I can see it being a simple case - you didn't have a licence permitting you to ride that vehicle.

If a copy pulls over someone driving a 40T truck and trailer, and they only have a car licence, should the cop let them also go on their way?

Can anyone point to the legislation around confiscation of keys (or property in general)?

EDIT: Should the cop have kept pulling you over, giving you more demerit points, till you completely lost your licence? Seems the cop gave you the easier option.

[Patrick]

blah blah long story short license breaches the risk i took blah blah blah

i know...

what i do question is...

he would not let me ride home, said i effectively had no license because the bike was over cc, well... i have a bike learners...

So you know how to scratch and win.... big deal.

He did it right. THAT is why you had to walk.

You have not shown any ability to ride a bike on a road. The basic handling test is not really showing any ability, is it.....?

How long have you had your 6L for?

If longer than 6 months, be ashamed...................

Get your 6R.... and a 250......

[gammaguy]

they over pay cops.

\


no they dont.if they paid them MORE we would get a better service from them,and also then maybe we would get more competent police to deal with all the losers,rapists,murderers,thieves and idiots(on and off the road) they already have to deal with.

Its a thin blue line alright,but we all yell real loud when we need them to help US.just hope someone is listening when we need them.....

also it is high time we had a slplit between traffic and ordinary cops,so both sets could do their job better.

[pc220]

What a fucking dickhead SM:weep:

[R6_kid]

Are your parents proud of you Mark?

[glanvillejon]

Sounds like he didn't really like you cuz, I would suggest you stick with the 250 till you get your full!! I know its hard, I went mental over having to ride my GN for so long, but the rules are in place for a reason. Therefore, considering most of us had to go through the same thing and stuck to it, I really have no sympathy for you mate. Go hard and get the FULL!!

[Indiana_Jones]

<img src="http://cdn0.knowyourmeme.com/i/3376/original/1244741954750.jpg">

-Indy

[Qkkid]

Well he went past the almighty katana rrr...rr swung a U turn, i pulled into carpark, he never put his lights on...

but anyway hopped off my bike and there he was...

blah blah long story short license breaches the risk i took blah blah blah

i know...

what i do question is...

he would not let me ride home, said i effectively had no license because the bike was over cc, well... i have a bike learners... yes i was breaching license conditions, but as far as i am aware he cannot forbid me to ride it home, ie if you get pulled over for after hours on a car restricted license they let you drive home...

but no he said i should have also been forbidden to ride home other times i have been pulled over for license breaches... so i had to get my mate to come pick me up and a whole lot of fucking around just to get the bike home...

nothing i can do about the ticket i knew what would happen if i got stopped blah blah...

but i don't see how he can say no i wont let you ride home because you are in breach of a license condition, he said it is effectively the same as having no license...

which is a crock of shit...

i think our coppers need to do there homework, credit though he seemed a genuinely nice guy just doing his job, but i still think he had no right to forbid me to take it home because i would be breaching a license condition, in the past i have been told if you get pulled up on way home show them this ticket etc etc.

he told me i either had to have a mate with a full show up within 15 minutes to ride it home, or he would take the key to central so i couldn't ride it and to pick the key up later, he told me to push the bike home...

obviously i laughed in his face and told him i'm not pushing a 250kg bike 5km's of mostly steep uphill home...

they over pay cops.

EDIT: i am not over my demerits, nor am i disqualified he told me i was on 50 demerits and this ticket is another 25 demerits, yet forbid me to ride the bike, said i can still drive car etc obviously

Still Mark you shouldnt have been on a bike over 250cc anyway so he had every right:girlfight:
When he did a check on you he probably saw how much of a naughty little boy youd been:lol:
The law is there for a reason you just need to learn to respect it no matter how good a rider ya are.:cool:

[oldrider]

Getting our case across regarding ACC is looking less likely with every post on this thread! :(

[Danae]

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[scumdog]

Getting our case across regarding ACC is looking less likely with every post on this thread! :(

Once again: 'Our own worst enemy':(

[ynot slow]

Getting our case across regarding ACC is looking less likely with every post on this thread! :(


Once again: 'Our own worst enemy':(

Was thinking that myself,and when the bikoi is arranged we don't want this happening either,we need all bikes wof,rego,and riders licensed accordingly.

FFS grab a 250 do the full,heck do a defensive riding(driving)course to shorten the waiting time as well,assuming your under 25yr.

[AllanB]

I'm more worried about you riding off to these deserted car-parks. I saw a documentary on TV a while ago about weird men hanging out at these........


End of the day bud you should NOT have been on it. Get your full and give it heaps after.

[Taz]

Skidmarks still on his learners :lol:. :clap: Why have you not progressed?

[Conquiztador]

May 2006 SkidMark tells us that he got a speeding ticket and the cop wrote down his license number. That's over 3 years ago.

So over 3 years on Learners.

No symphaty from me.

[marty]

Read it and weep, loser. Hope you locked up next time:


Contents
Part 1 Amendments to Land Transport Act 1998

26 New section 121A inserted

The following section is inserted after section 121:

121A Enforcement officer may give directions or immobilise vehicle if driver breaches certain licence conditions

(1) An enforcement officer may exercise all or any of the powers conferred by subsection (2) if the enforcement officer believes on reasonable grounds that a person who is for the time being in charge of a motor vehicle has, in relation to a prescribed class of motor vehicle, breached any condition of a class 1 or class 6 learner licence or a restricted licence held by that person.

(2) The enforcement officer may—
(a) forbid the person to drive a motor vehicle until that person is able to comply with the conditions of that person's learner licence or restricted licence:
(b) direct the person to drive to a specified place (for example, the person's home):
(c) take possession of all ignition or other keys of the vehicle, and for that purpose require the person to deliver up immediately all such keys:
(d) take any steps that may be necessary to make the motor vehicle immobile or to move the motor vehicle to a place where it does not constitute a traffic hazard.

(3) An enforcement officer may arrest without warrant a person who fails to comply with a power exercised under subsection (2).

(4) The power to take possession under subsection (2)(c) or to immobilise or move under subsection (2)(d) continues until—
(a) the driver is able to drive the vehicle without breaching the conditions of that driver's licence; or
(b) another person is able to drive the vehicle without breaching—
(i) that person's licence:
(ii) any enactment.

[CookMySock]

What's he going to DO about it bro? Hold onto your belt so you cant ride away?

He CAN ticket you again if he sees you, but I don't think he can tell you what to do. In fact, unless you are under arrest, the cops are rather limited about what they can compel you to do.

I take the "no" approach. If they fail my attitude test, I SHOW them (do not hand it to them) my license and then leave. They can sort the paperwork out, I am uninterested. There are plenty of cops who prepared to be fair and not take the fine-tooth-comb throw-the-book hold-you-up-for-twenty-minutes approach.

If they have taken something of yours, an easy test is to demand they return it immediately. If they must - then they will, unless they are very brave or very stupid.

Another thing you can do if they mention taking keys, is forbid them from touching your bike. "Do not touch my motorcyle" or "You are warned not to touch my motorcycle."

A lot of the time, the police will ask if they can do something, or guesture towards it, and then take a lack of objection as a consent. You must make it politely, but firmly very clear to them that unless you are compelled by legislation you do not consent.

Steve

[skidMark]

Grow up, take it on the chin or clean up ya act, don't moan about it here.


wasnt having a moan my ticket was fair, not letting me go home with 5 years of riding experiance is what pissed me off, geez whose gunna win the skimark keeping his license bet.... im at 75 demerits... lol:headbang:

[skidMark]

What's he going to DO about it bro? Hold onto your belt so you cant ride away?

He CAN ticket you again if he sees you, but I don't think he can tell you what to do. In fact, unless you are under arrest, the cops are rather limited about what they can compel you to do.

I take the "no" approach. If they fail my attitude test, I SHOW them (do not hand it to them) my license and then leave. They can sort the paperwork out, I am uninterested. There are plenty of cops who prepared to be fair and not take the fine-tooth-comb throw-the-book hold-you-up-for-twenty-minutes approach.

If they have taken something of yours, an easy test is to demand they return it immediately. If they must - then they will, unless they are very brave or very stupid.

Another thing you can do if they mention taking keys, is forbid them from touching your bike. "Do not touch my motorcyle" or "You are warned not to touch my motorcycle."

A lot of the time, the police will ask if they can do something, or guesture towards it, and then take a lack of objection as a consent. You must make it politely, but firmly very clear to them that unless you are compelled by legislation you do not consent.

Steve


i said id just ride anyway and i got the...

"you cant because i am forbidding you to, if you ride it i will arrest you"

etc etc

hes on kb apparently...

rides a v strom and has ridden with toto etc...

if i see him on his roadbike ill show him how to really ride then shove him in a ditch...

i could've done a runner i just couldn't be fucked. was still hungover as a mother fucker cus i was out on town til 5am

[Big Dan]

i said id just ride anyway and i got the...

"you cant because i am forbidding you to, if you ride it i will arrest you"

etc etc

hes on kb apparently...

rides a v strom and has ridden with toto etc...

if i see him on his roadbike ill show him how to really ride then shove him in a ditch...

i could've done a runner i just couldn't be fucked. was still hungover as a mother fucker cus i was out on town til 5am

Nice one you fuckwit

you have just threatened the life of a cop on a public just after you said he is on KB - you must really want to be arrested and sent to jail

and saying you were still hungover why the fuck ride then did you get breath tested cause no doubt you would have still been over the limit

your a liability to yourself and to others on the road - its people like you that cause the gubbermint to hammer riders with the proposed ACC levies

I have just two more words for you "GROW UP"

[skidMark]

Read it and weep, loser. Hope you locked up next time:


Contents
Part 1 Amendments to Land Transport Act 1998

26 New section 121A inserted

The following section is inserted after section 121:

121A Enforcement officer may give directions or immobilise vehicle if driver breaches certain licence conditions

(1) An enforcement officer may exercise all or any of the powers conferred by subsection (2) if the enforcement officer believes on reasonable grounds that a person who is for the time being in charge of a motor vehicle has, in relation to a prescribed class of motor vehicle, breached any condition of a class 1 or class 6 learner licence or a restricted licence held by that person.

(2) The enforcement officer may—
(a) forbid the person to drive a motor vehicle until that person is able to comply with the conditions of that person's learner licence or restricted licence:
(b) direct the person to drive to a specified place (for example, the person's home):
(c) take possession of all ignition or other keys of the vehicle, and for that purpose require the person to deliver up immediately all such keys:
(d) take any steps that may be necessary to make the motor vehicle immobile or to move the motor vehicle to a place where it does not constitute a traffic hazard.

(3) An enforcement officer may arrest without warrant a person who fails to comply with a power exercised under subsection (2).

(4) The power to take possession under subsection (2)(c) or to immobilise or move under subsection (2)(d) continues until—
(a) the driver is able to drive the vehicle without breaching the conditions of that driver's licence; or
(b) another person is able to drive the vehicle without breaching—
(i) that person's licence:
(ii) any enactment.


its all good...

i aint stopping next time.

:lol:

[R6_kid]

You should take your pills Mark.

[Ixion]

Read it and weep, loser. Hope you locked up next time:


Contents
Part 1 Amendments to Land Transport Act 1998

26 New section 121A inserted

..t.

Is that amendment actually in force yet? I thought that was part of Crusher Collins efforts, still before the House? But I may be behind the fair.

[insane1]

skidmark for fucks sake grow up you little prick and learn you might just be the one in the ditch ypu usless cunt.

[glanvillejon]

its all good...

i aint stopping next time.

:lol:
Fuck your an arsehole little mummy's boy, grow the fuck up, get yourself a set of balls and lick them! Oh my god, I thought you were just a silly boy until I read your last 2 posts, you don't deserve to be on a bike, or on this site. I dear say you will be the one in the ditch if you see that cop again, you will probably quiver like a little bitch. Fuck me, what ever you do DON'T GET YOUR LICENSE INFACT HAND IT BACK!

[Big Dan]

I hope there are cops reading this thread

I'm sure there is more than enough evidence here to be able to cancel Marks licence and to arrest him on conspiracy and threatening to endanger other road users

Whats the law about that for anyone in the know ?

[skidMark]

Nice one you fuckwit

you have just threatened the life of a cop on a public just after you said he is on KB - you must really want to be arrested and sent to jail

and saying you were still hungover why the fuck ride then did you get breath tested cause no doubt you would have still been over the limit

your a liability to yourself and to others on the road - its people like you that cause the gubbermint to hammer riders with the proposed ACC levies

I have just two more words for you "GROW UP"


Dude...

you came on this site because of bruces death... that was december 2006....

you are still yet to get a bike

and yet your holier than thou opinion keeps flying around

and if i came home from town at 5am.... i didn't ride until 2pm... there was no way in fuck i was still pissed.

and lol at the internet death threat...

[skidMark]

skidmark for fucks sake grow up you little prick and learn you might just be the one in the ditch ypu usless cunt.


says the guy with a yoshimura tri oval on a fucking scooter :rolleyes:

[glanvillejon]

Dude...

you came on this site because of bruces death... that was december 2006....

you are still yet to get a bike

and yet your holier than thou opinion keeps flying around

and if i came home from town at 5am.... i didn't ride until 2pm... there was no way in fuck i was still pissed.

and lol at the internet death threat...
Keep it up, your making heaps of friends!

[insane1]

skidmark iv"e done a lot in my short riding life if you keep pissing people off someone will say fuck you and it will all be over ,also i can outride you on anything i just dont need to prove im a dumb cunt like you .

[Big Dan]

Dude...

you came on this site because of bruces death... that was december 2006....

you are still yet to get a bike

and yet your holier than thou opinion keeps flying around

and if i came home from town at 5am.... i didn't ride until 2pm... there was no way in fuck i was still pissed.

and lol at the internet death threat...

Well for once your right on one thing mark yes it was bruces death that brought me to the site. Congrats for having a correct fact for once btw

I have my reasons for not having a bike and thanks to you your justifying one of them cause i dont trust other road users to ride and i'd rather stay out of jail and alive then share the same road as you

Do you really think the achocol you drank would be out of your system after 7 hours wake up sunshine it stays in your system for 24 hours

I'd like to know what the officer would think about the threat and i'm sure his family wouldn't be happy

[insane1]

skidmark i think the remark bout leaving to cop in the ditch will be classed as a threat against his life ,dont be annoyed if they turn up to arrest you for that threat which they prpbably will.

[R6_kid]

Do you really think the achocol you drank would be out of your system after 7 hours wake up sunshine it stays in your system for 24 hours

'45mins per standard drink' apparently... but that's besides the point. With the amount of weed that Mark claims he smokes it's astonishing that he's not a more chilled out kind of guy.

[Thani-B]

How about I babysit the Katana so you arent tempted to ride it? I'll even lend you the gn to go for your restricted on.

[zeocen]

Holy fuck these threads are awesome

[Chrislost]

skidmark for fucks sake grow up you little prick and learn you might just be the one in the ditch ypu usless cunt.


Ole markie here dosnt ride anywhere near hard enough to crash man!
hes only guna crash by getting taken out...

[Maha]

skidmark iv"e done a lot in my short riding life if you keep pissing people off someone will say fuck you and it will all be over ,also i can outride you on anything i just dont need to prove im a dumb cunt like you .

The irony of that david is, he gets the odd threat, but to date, I have yet to see anyone fullfill on a threat towards him, even when he meets them face to face at party's they just laugh it off.

[Mully]

So, is the point of the thread for Mark to have a whine about the cop being wrong? He doesn't seem to be whinging about the ticket.

According to this:
http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/factsheets/63.html
They can impound if:

you don't hold (or have never held) a driver licence or your licence has expired, and you have been forbidden to drive by a police officer until you have obtained or renewed your licence

You could argue that Mark doesn't hold the correct licence for that class of vehicle (I dunno if they do that though).

Of course, Mark could argue that he has a class 6 - just an "L" and he might win based on that argument. Of course, in the meantime, the cops could make him miserable for a while......

Meh.

When can you actually get your licence Mark?

[Big Dan]

There are some funny as Tags to this thread lol those who have done them PM me so i can give ya some bling

I'm also amazed that Mark hasn't realised that 99% of the threads he starts complaining about he been hard done by will inevitably turn against him, but any attention is good attention. I bet he most likely waved to the cop to follow him and talk to him cause he felt lonely and wanted attention

[steve_t]

LOL. This is a pisstake right? :girlfight: Surely SM is just trying to take on Pistonbroke for reds

[SixPackBack]

The irony of that david is, he gets the odd threat, but to date, I have yet to see anyone fullfill on a threat towards him, even when he meets them face to face at party's they just laugh it off.

Child abuse is frowned upon..........:whistle:

[Big Dan]

LOL. This is a pisstake right? :girlfight: Surely SM is just trying to take on Pistonbroke for reds

Mark isn't that smart to do that

[Chrislost]

Well he went past the almighty katana rrr...rr swung a U turn, i pulled into carpark, he never put his lights on...

but anyway hopped off my bike and there he was...

blah blah long story short license breaches the risk i took blah blah blah

i know...

what i do question is...

he would not let me ride home, said i effectively had no license because the bike was over cc, well... i have a bike learners... yes i was breaching license conditions, but as far as i am aware he cannot forbid me to ride it home, ie if you get pulled over for after hours on a car restricted license they let you drive home...

but no he said i should have also been forbidden to ride home other times i have been pulled over for license breaches... so i had to get my mate to come pick me up and a whole lot of fucking around just to get the bike home...

nothing i can do about the ticket i knew what would happen if i got stopped blah blah...

but i don't see how he can say no i wont let you ride home because you are in breach of a license condition, he said it is effectively the same as having no license...

which is a crock of shit...

i think our coppers need to do there homework, credit though he seemed a genuinely nice guy just doing his job, but i still think he had no right to forbid me to take it home because i would be breaching a license condition, in the past i have been told if you get pulled up on way home show them this ticket etc etc.

he told me i either had to have a mate with a full show up within 15 minutes to ride it home, or he would take the key to central so i couldn't ride it and to pick the key up later, he told me to push the bike home...

obviously i laughed in his face and told him i'm not pushing a 250kg bike 5km's of mostly steep uphill home...

they over pay cops.

EDIT: i am not over my demerits, nor am i disqualified he told me i was on 50 demerits and this ticket is another 25 demerits, yet forbid me to ride the bike, said i can still drive car etc obviously

you know whats LOL?
you only got your licence back last year after loosing it for trying to race some guy and sideswiping him while tryna kick his door in.
and your already 75% down the loosing it again road.

[Big Dan]

you know whats LOL?
you only got your licence back last year after loosing it for trying to race some guy and sideswiping him while tryna kick his door in.
and your already 75% down the loosing it again road.

Are you serious the dipshit tried to kick in a car door while racing?

[Squiggles]

You fail hard.

[Big Dan]

August 07...
Its 2 years, not one, my bad

If any cops read this thread can you please PM i would like to discuss something with you

Thanks

[la 102]

drive safely... your only a learner too !
L

[PirateJafa]

says the guy with a yoshimura tri oval on a fucking scooter :rolleyes:

Hahahaha. His exhaust system is probably worth more alone than your entire garage of thrashed rubbish and whatever that Daihatsu piece of trash car is you bought.

Ooooh the irony!

[Ixion]

..

You could argue that Mark doesn't hold the correct licence for that class of vehicle (I dunno if they do that though).

..

No. He has a valid licence for the class of vehicle (Class 6, motorcycle).

The offence is breach of licence condition. Same as car drivers on 1R (or 1L) taking passengers. Or any L/R licence being out after 10pm. Or not displaying an L plate. Or a 6L exceeding 70kph.

Of course, noone here would ever have done any of those things ?

[Mully]

No. He has a valid licence for the class of vehicle (Class 6, motorcycle).

Yeah, I know. I was thinking that the cop may have made that argument - and that while Mark could contest that (probably successfully), in the meantime, the cop has made Mark's life difficult

[Big Dan]

Yeah, I know. I was thinking that the cop may have made that argument - and that while Mark could contest that (probably successfully), in the meantime, the cop has made Mark's life difficult

No one makes marks life difficult. Mark does that all on his own

The cop did his job mark fucked up End of story!!!

[Kickaha]

Of course, noone here would ever have done any of those things ?

As consistently as Mark? probably not

[PirateJafa]

As consistently as Mark? probably not

Wrong.

But wethey just don't mention it again as much as Mark. Or bitch if wethey get caught.

[insane1]

maha the point is you dont threatin the life of a police officer and then brag about it on the net this could get him into serious shit and it's probobly bout time to ,if he does this sort of shit again lose his licence for good.

[skidMark]

There are some funny as Tags to this thread lol those who have done them PM me so i can give ya some bling

I'm also amazed that Mark hasn't realised that 99% of the threads he starts complaining about he been hard done by will inevitably turn against him, but any attention is good attention. I bet he most likely waved to the cop to follow him and talk to him cause he felt lonely and wanted attention

it was a troll dicknose.

[skidMark]

maha the point is you dont threatin the life of a police officer and then brag about it on the net this could get him into serious shit and it's probobly bout time to ,if he does this sort of shit again lose his licence for good.


then i'll just buy a litre bike and have no plate... lol

[skidMark]

No one makes marks life difficult. Mark does that all on his own

The cop did his job mark fucked up End of story!!!


the next time i see you dude... there will be words...

anyways... i'm off to the gym ;)

[kwaka_crasher]

if i see him on his roadbike ill show him how to really ride then shove him in a ditch...

Just one small part missing from your plan - exactly how are you going to get him to follow you into the ditch?


Is that amendment actually in force yet? I thought that was part of Crusher Collins efforts, still before the House? But I may be behind the fair.

No - you are correct. Commencement 1 December 2009. In other words, not yet.


The cop did his job mark fucked up End of story!!!

The cop exceeded his powers at this time.

[insane1]

skidmark pull your head in or you will end up in jail it"s your choice.

[skidMark]

it's not my fault you're all slow.

[Mully]

anyways... i'm off to the gym ;)

Hang on - this must be another troll.

[skidMark]

Hang on - this must be another troll.

errrrin the last 2 weeks ive gained 8kg...

i got a fight coming up with someone so im bulking up a bit

[Firefight]

errrrin the last 2 weeks ive gained 8kg...

i got a fight coming up with someone so im bulking up a bit








yeah and I know who my moneys on !!


http://perezhilton.com/2009-10-18-meet-most-likely-the-worlds-smallest-man

F/F

[bikerboy011]

errrrin the last 2 weeks ive gained 8kg...

i got a fight coming up with someone so im bulking up a bit

Bahahhahaha :lol: lol

[glanvillejon]

Two words....... hole....dig

[SPORK]

errrrin the last 2 weeks ive gained 8kg...

i got a fight coming up with someone so im bulking up a bit
I'm super proud of you for being able to defy conventional-er, I dunno- MEDICAL FACT by putting on 4kg of muscle a week. You should tell some bodybuilders your tips bro.

[peasea]

anyways... i'm off to the gym ;)

Funny you should mention that. I was asked to help out today.

Question was "Can you help me with the gym beam".

I completely misunderstood and put my hand up immediately. Turns out it was all about assembling some gymnastics equipment and not getting on the piss after all.

:argh:

[Pussy]

I'm super proud of you for being able to defy conventional-er, I dunno- MEDICAL FACT by putting on 4kg of muscle a week. You should tell some bodybuilders your tips bro.

It's simple.... he hasn't had a crap for two weeks. That's why he's so full of shit, and 8kg heavier

[Big Dan]

I think its pretty low and the most stupidest thing to do if this is indeed a usual "troll" by Mark

One of theses days Mark you will wake and realise what a complete twat you have been. The way you are going you will be lucky to make 30

You say there will be words if we meet again. Well i can guarantee that we will NEVER be in the same place again, if by some strange miracle that we are then you can by all means have words but they will fall on deaf ears cause i wont be listening

Btw thats a nice car in your profile pic. Is it a Mirage or 323

Link to poll http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=110576

[Dean]

read post one dick nose, he said if i didn't have a mate come he would take the keys so i would have to push it.

The only thing you'll be pushing is a fat mexican calling you his little puto where you suck and he "chupa", when you end up as his bitch in prison because you do this kind of shit Mark. Snap out of it man, if you want to race take it to the track, dont be a faggot ass and complain to us. And they say Im the next skidmark - Bullshit im as clean as a 30 second spray and walk away no demerits bitch.

[Patrick]

....also it is high time we had a slplit between traffic and ordinary cops,so both sets could do their job better.

After only 17 years? LOL.....


....,we need all bikes wof,rego,and riders licensed accordingly.

A nice thought..... but some are actually our (as in bike riders) worst enemies, helping out the ACC cause to raise levies.........................................


What's he going to DO about it bro? Hold onto your belt so you cant ride away?

He CAN ticket you again if he sees you, but I don't think he can tell you what to do. In fact, unless you are under arrest, the cops are rather limited about what they can compel you to do.

Depends.... with the limited "advice" given there, this "could" be more bad advice............

I take the "no" approach. If they fail my attitude test, I SHOW them (do not hand it to them) my license and then leave.

Fair enough. We can inspect it though.... Good luck with the leaving thing. Alan DUFF lost that case in the end.

They can sort the paperwork out, I am uninterested. There are plenty of cops who prepared to be fair and not take the fine-tooth-comb throw-the-book hold-you-up-for-twenty-minutes approach.

True...... it can be sent "in the post" but that depends if the address given was right in the 1st place.... but then that just means another $750 ticket.... :whistle:

If they have taken something of yours, an easy test is to demand they return it immediately. If they must - then they will, unless they are very brave or very stupid.

Another thing you can do if they mention taking keys, is forbid them from touching your bike. "Do not touch my motorcyle" or "You are warned not to touch my motorcycle."

What if they wish to test the lights, brakes, indicators, whatever, to see if it in good working order...?

A lot of the time, the police will ask if they can do something, or guesture towards it, and then take a lack of objection as a consent. You must make it politely, but firmly very clear to them that unless you are compelled by legislation you do not consent.

Steve

Not quite. Informed consent is usually the base line.


i said id just ride anyway and i got the...

"you cant because i am forbidding you to, if you ride it i will arrest you"

etc etc

hes on kb apparently...

rides a v strom and has ridden with toto etc...

if i see him on his roadbike ill show him how to really ride then shove him in a ditch...

i could've done a runner i just couldn't be fucked. was still hungover as a mother fucker cus i was out on town til 5am

Dumber than a dumb thing there...... Most likely a pure troll.

If he is a KBer, he will see this, know who it is that was dealt with in this way, perhaps act on the idle threat.... and you might become his favourite "target..." Those bike riders are pretty damned good on them machines.


....and if i came home from town at 5am.... i didn't ride until 2pm... there was no way in fuck i was still pissed.

You're wrong..............


then i'll just buy a litre bike and have no plate... lol

I didn't know litre bikes can outrun helicopters......... and radios...........


The cop exceeded his powers at this time.

Not quite....

If one is physically or mentally unable to control a vehicle, they can be forbidden to drive, just as an example.... been around for years.....

He has a scratch and win.... has shown no ability to ride a bike...... could be argued that it falls into that category.

And if he was left to continue to ride on by the cop, and has a crash......... killing himself or heaven forbid, anyone else.... I wonder what the headlines will be.........

[Patrick]

No. He has a valid licence for the class of vehicle (Class 6, motorcycle).

The offence is breach of licence condition. Same as car drivers on 1R (or 1L) taking passengers. Or any L/R licence being out after 10pm. Or not displaying an L plate. Or a 6L exceeding 70kph.

Of course, noone here would ever have done any of those things ?

True.

What can/should be done though...

He can be given a traffic offence notice for learner breaches... if he has 4 or more previous graduated licence breaches,

He can be fronted in court on the breach instead of getting an instant fine, and disqualification sought under Section 80 of the Land Transport Act.

The usual result then, is a fine and disqualification, as well as the 25 demerits added toward the next 100 mark when the licence is given back later.....

[Mully]

If one is physically or mentally unable to control a vehicle, they can be forbidden to drive, just as an example.....

Fuck, that's half of KB gone then....

[skidMark]

I think its pretty low and the most stupidest thing to do if this is indeed a usual "troll" by Mark

One of theses days Mark you will wake and realise what a complete twat you have been. The way you are going you will be lucky to make 30

You say there will be words if we meet again. Well i can guarantee that we will NEVER be in the same place again, if by some strange miracle that we are then you can by all means have words but they will fall on deaf ears cause i wont be listening

Btw thats a nice car in your profile pic. Is it a Mirage or 323

Link to poll http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=110576


its a daihatsu charade detomaso it's my project cage. ;)

[SPORK]

Is the project to see how much money you can pour into a POS?

[skidMark]

Is the project to see how much money you can pour into a POS?


Sorry i wasn't aware the project was your mother?

[SPORK]

Fuck I'd rather see that than some idiot 'doing up' a motherfucking Daihatsu.

[skidMark]

Fuck I'd rather see that than some idiot 'doing up' a motherfucking Daihatsu.


lmfao...

daihatsu which is essentially a toyota...

with works lightweight race wheels...yokohama tyres... half cage... full intake and exhaust... 4 point harnesses, race bucket seats and a evo 3 bodykit, with fully adjustable suspension all round...

thats about a quarter of the list because i don't wana sound like im gloating because at the end of the day its only a fucking cage...

its just my play toy...

you can have them when you earn enough... ;)

[centaurus]

I won't let my rego expire.

In other countries they can scan your rego from cameras above bridges.

At $750 a pop they may see a cost justiufication for doing the same here.

My brother lives in UK and there apparently, if you miss paying your rego on time, they just send you the fine home automatically. No need for camera or any other costly setups. Their explanation is that if you don't have the car on the road, you should exempt it. If it doesn't have an exemption, it is unlawfull to let the registration lapse so they automatically fine you when that happens (I think there is a grace period but it's not too long).

[SPORK]

lmfao...

daihatsu which is essentially a toyota...

with works lightweight race wheels...yokohama tyres... half cage... full intake and exhaust... 4 point harnesses, race bucket seats and a evo 3 bodykit, with fully adjustable suspension all round...

thats about a quarter of the list because i don't wana sound like im gloating because at the end of the day its only a fucking cage...

its just my play toy...

you can have them when you earn enough... ;)

You're still driving around in a shopping cart, bro. Make sure your Grandma isn't upset at you ruining her car.

[Indiana_Jones]

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:lol:

-Indy

[skidMark]

You're still driving around in a shopping cart, bro. Make sure your Grandma isn't upset at you ruining her car.


yer errr 160 hp 700kg shopping cart...

i'm setting it up for fast cornering... not straight line shit...

and most trolleys vear left, all the best parts come from germany...

i got a mini trolley for my pikelets

[peasea]

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BARRY BOYS (www.barryboys.co.uk)

:lol:

-Indy

It certainly is the right colour for a lemon.

[ready4whatever]

its a daihatsu charade detomaso it's my project cage. ;)

my mate has a daihatsu charade turbo. apparently its using one of the subaru twin turbos. frontmount etc etc. the blow off valve cracks me up. "meep"

[scumdog]

It certainly is the right colour for a lemon.

And more waves on its bodywork than you'll find at Muriwai beach....

[peasea]

And more waves on its bodywork than you'll find at Muriwai beach....

I'd rather see it in a rip at Piha......without the surf lifesavers.

[Richard Mc F]

then i'll just buy a litre bike and have no plate... lol

Pray tell, where would you get the ready's to do that, HP is out WRONG CLASS OF LICENCE.

WTF are you that slow a learner:wacko:

Sort your shit out Mark.........yeah you can come to the shop and whine, I may not listen, or I may take the piss........do it in real time not at the key board, you ain't so flash at thinking on your feet, fuck just thinking appears to be a challenge:dodge:

[skidMark]

Pray tell, where would you get the ready's to do that, HP is out WRONG CLASS OF LICENCE.

WTF are you that slow a learner:wacko:

Sort your shit out Mark.........yeah you can come to the shop and whine, I may not listen, or I may take the piss........do it in real time not at the key board, you ain't so flash at thinking on your feet, fuck just thinking appears to be a challenge:dodge:


No no no, when i come into the shop i am quick at thinking on my feet, i just keep it simple so your brain can process it. it's hard when your surrounded by all the honda gayness

[Taz]

Skidmarks still on his learners...... He aint learn't anything yet tho :zzzz: