Bid here auction site

[Jantar]

Yes, the one advertised at the top of this Kiwibiker. http://www.bidhere.com/?ref_id=4d7

There is some good stuff on there going at rediculously low prices, even taking into consideration the cost of the bids. Has anyone actually bought anything from this site, and if so, was it delivered OK?

I see someone with the username Kiwibiker is a heavy participant.

[Street Gerbil]

Ugh... Are those guys for real?
Just tried to register and got the following error message:
Member Sign Up Area
Saving of data was unsuccessful.

Database server tells following message:
You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'where status=1 order by name' at line 1


Does not look like a company mature enough to be trusted with a credit card...

[rainman]

Has a bit of a dodgy whiff to it all - no real info on where the products come from, no committed auction price ("usually 60-95% off retail" is a bit vague), their "guarantee" is not much of one at all, and they have FAQs saying the product is unfortunately sometimes not available...

It would be a good little money spinner if they can make it work well enough though.

[cs363]

Yeah, I had a look at it and came away with a distinct rodent smell filling my nostrils.
You have to pre-pay for bidding points (so if the site folds they've already got your dosh) and the bloody auctions keep resetting all the time, so you'd either have to sit there all bloody day or take a stab at what you think it will be worth to you and throw an auto bid on.
And...there doesn't seem to be any way to delete your account.

[Jantar]

Has a bit of a dodgy whiff to it all - no real info on where the products come from, no committed auction price ("usually 60-95% off retail" is a bit vague), their "guarantee" is not much of one at all, and they have FAQs saying the product is unfortunately sometimes not available...

It would be a good little money spinner if they can make it work well enough though.
Its the old story: "If it looks too good to be true, then it probably isn't true". There are some good things on there, but I'm not about to spend many hundreds of dollars (I did say a lot of good stuff) if I can't be sure that I would get the product at the end.

[cs363]

Its the old story: "If it looks too good to be true, then it probably isn't true". There are some good things on there, but I'm not about to spend many hundreds of dollars (I did say a lot of good stuff) if I can't be sure that I would get the product at the end.

Agreed. I'd love to hear from someone that has actually had something from this site.... if there is anyone...

[sil3nt]

They make a killing on this. Fairly sure it has another name which if you google will come up with a website telling you how stupid this is for you and how awesome it is for them. Basically each bid you make costs you money and adds 0.02 cents to the auction. So something that sells for 50 dollars would have 2500 bids that earn the site $1 (made that up don't remember what it costs) for each bid so an easy 2500 dollars for them!

[sil3nt]

Ah just remember the other name is bidrivals and here is what you get when you google it: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090716000832AAaITOI

[cs363]

Ah just remember the other name is bidrivals and here is what you get when you google it: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090716000832AAaITOI

There you go, the source of the rat smell revealed.

Thanks sil3ntwar :niceone:

[PrincessBandit]

Anyone know why it's at the top of kb pages then?

[The Stranger]

Yes, the one advertised at the top of this Kiwibiker. http://www.bidhere.com/?ref_id=4d7

There is some good stuff on there going at rediculously low prices, even taking into consideration the cost of the bids. Has anyone actually bought anything from this site, and if so, was it delivered OK?

I see someone with the username Kiwibiker is a heavy participant.

No - anything that flashes in my face can get fucked. I wouldn't care if they were giving GSXRs away I wouldn't go there - ever.
On a positive note, it did inspire me to kill all flash adverts.

[White trash]

I wouldn't care if they were giving GSXRs away I wouldn't go there - ever.



Easy tiger, GSXRs are very hard to come by ya know.

[Jantar]

OK, here's the test to see if its legit or not. I used the free bids they give you on sign up and won a PANASONIC Lumix DMC-TZ7-K Digital Camera valued at over $800 for $0.02. So I've now paid $0.02 via Paypal, so lets see if the camera arrives. :2thumbsup

[pzkpfw]

OK, here's the test to see if its legit or not. I used the free bids they give you on sign up and won a PANASONIC Lumix DMC-TZ7-K Digital Camera valued at over $800 for $0.02. So I've now paid $0.02 via Paypal, so lets see if the camera arrives. :2thumbsup

So there was only one bid on that "auction"?

Or do I misunderstand your post?

Did you use the free bids plus one more that you paid for?

What was the final price on it? How many bids?

[JATZ]

OK, here's the test to see if its legit or not. I used the free bids they give you on sign up and won a PANASONIC Lumix DMC-TZ7-K Digital Camera valued at over $800 for $0.02. So I've now paid $0.02 via Paypal, so lets see if the camera arrives. :2thumbsup

:corn: :wait: :corn:

[Street Gerbil]

Congrats!
The site is down now so worst case scenario you had been scammed to the tune of $0.02.
Just my $0.02 :-)

[Mandy]

I just won a Camcorder... Now I'm just waiting for it to arrive...

Bargin price of 12 cents

I didn't even win the auction. The scamming bastards that bid after me got caught out because they have two accounts at one address (apparently its in the rules I didn't read).

BTW who is KiwiBiker on Bidhere?

[nothingflash]

I'll reserve my opinion (that it sounds like a pile of shit) until Jantar confirms if is item ever arrives.

They didn't charge you $800 for postage did they Jantar?

[Mandy]

Ok now THIS sounds too good to be true...

They are sending it to me for FREE...

They don't charge postage...

http://nz.bidhere.com/FAQ/id/528/gr_id/4/#question36

[sil3nt]

I'll reserve my opinion (that it sounds like a pile of shit) until Jantar confirms if is item ever arrives.

They didn't charge you $800 for postage did they Jantar?That is where im expecting they hit you.

[SpankMe]

I thought it was gonna be another TardeMe site. :confused: Site didn't turn on until the banners went up.

Will be very interesting to see if anything turns up in the mail for anyone.

[Jantar]

So there was only one bid on that "auction"?

Or do I misunderstand your post?

Did you use the free bids plus one more that you paid for?

What was the final price on it? How many bids?

Yes it was the only bid, so the final price was $0.02. So this was one of my free bids, and postage is free.

[Jonno.]

I thought it was gonna be another TardeMe site. :confused: Site didn't turn on until the banners went up.

Will be very interesting to see if anything turns up in the mail for anyone.

Interesting? That would be water into wine material :lol:

[pzkpfw]

Yes it was the only bid, so the final price was $0.02.

Ah.

So it looks like they screwed themselves, so far, by the low interest (new site).

Overseas these kinds of sites have been banned because they are essentially a dodgy lottery system.

You are lucky that you were the only person to buy a "ticket" for one of them.

[nothingflash]

Ah.

So it looks like they screwed themselves, so far, by the low interest (new site).

Overseas these kinds of sites have been banned because they are essentially a dodgy lottery system.

You are lucky that you were the only person to buy a "ticket" for one of them.

If of course the item is not "lost in transit"...

[zeRax]

well


apparently my Bidhere

Nikon D90 VR Twin lens $2850 rrp camera was shipped today

spent $130 bux

so ill let you guys know weither i get it or not :P
bit of a gamble !


i see spankme and jantar and kiwibiker on there alot

[EJK]

That's some serious business!!!!!!!!

Holy Christopher Columbus, who havn't thought of that?

[Beemer]

No - anything that flashes in my face can get fucked. I wouldn't care if they were giving GSXRs away I wouldn't go there - ever.
On a positive note, it did inspire me to kill all flash adverts.

I agree - would never buy anything from anyone who thinks flashing ads in my face is a good idea!

[Mandy]

I got an email from then this morning saying that the camcorder was out of stock.
They're apparently going to send me a digital camera worth twice what the camcorders RRP was.
Awaiting delivery....

[MSTRS]

I got an email from then this morning saying that the camcorder was out of stock.
They're apparently going to send me a digital camera worth twice what the camcorders RRP was.
Awaiting delivery....

That's a lovely shade of blue you have on your face. Can I suggest that you resume breathing?

[dave_a]

bastards wont even let me sign up

[Mandy]

That's a lovely shade of blue you have on your face. Can I suggest that you resume breathing?

Haha don't get me wrong! I'm sure as hell not holding my breath for this one!:corn:

[pzkpfw]

well


apparently my Bidhere

Nikon D90 VR Twin lens $2850 rrp camera was shipped today

spent $130 bux

so ill let you guys know weither i get it or not :P
bit of a gamble !


i see spankme and jantar and kiwibiker on there alot

Do you mean the final price for the camera was $130 ?

At $0.02 increase per bid, that would mean 6,500 bids were made.

What do people pay for the right to bid on this site?

i.e. How much money did they get for those 6,500 bids?


edit: found it on the site. $0.75 each.

So those 6,500 bids got them $4,875 (+ that $130!).

Someone's "winning"!

[pzkpfw]

Another example off their site:

Lexar CF memory card.
Claimed savings: NZD 167.56
Winning Price NZD 4.74

That means 237 bids were placed. (4.74 / 0.02)

Those bids earned the web site $177.75 (237 x 0.75)

Plus the price "paid" = $182.49 (177.75 + 4.74)

So the website has you thinking someone got a good deal, which they did, but lots and lots of people bought air.

[slick]

Had a quick look at the finished auctions and there is a 1000 bid pack that was won for $10.14 ($23.66 including the cost of bidding).

Now assuming the winning bidder made about 5 bids (out of a total of 13) then the 1000 bid pack cost him $17.89 which makes the cost of a single bid 1.7 cents instead of the standard price of 75 cents.

The only problem is if they then say the item is out of stock and they send you something else 'more valuable' that you didn't want!

Also the auctions appear to be never ending as long as people keep bidding!?

[Mandy]

I just hit them up about their 'help' section saying that bids cost 75 cents when you get charged 90 cents for them.

Turns out its AUD$0.75 per bid.

They are going to refund me 15 cents for every bid I have bought. I havent really spent a lot on this website, but for those who have... hit them up!
Every little bit helps right?

[zeRax]

Do you mean the final price for the camera was $130 ?

At $0.02 increase per bid, that would mean 6,500 bids were made.

What do people pay for the right to bid on this site?

i.e. How much money did they get for those 6,500 bids?


edit: found it on the site. $0.75 each.

So those 6,500 bids got them $4,875 (+ that $130!).

Someone's "winning"!


no, i made about 90 dollars of bids and camera was $32.50 or some such ending price, so <130 bux all up

[zeRax]

I just hit them up about their 'help' section saying that bids cost 75 cents when you get charged 90 cents for them.

Turns out its AUD$0.75 per bid.

They are going to refund me 15 cents for ever bid I have bought. I havent really spent a lot on this website, but for those who have... hit them up!
Every little bit helps right?


hmmm?

i dont get it >_< everything is listed in NZD for me, .90 per bid, paid .90 nzd per bid,,, hmmm ?


why are they refunding u 15 cents per bid ? ive put $180 into site to date
but ive made good money on it :) assuming camera arrives in a few days

[pzkpfw]

no, i made about 90 dollars of bids and camera was $32.50 or some such ending price, so <130 bux all up

Thanks for the details.

So final price $32.50 = 1625 bids (32.50 / 0.02)

That means they were paid $1,218 (assuming $0.75 per bid) + $32.50

So you got the camera (good on you...) for < $130; but the web site got another ~~ $1,128 ($1,218 minus your $90) off other people.

[Mandy]

hmmm?

i dont get it >_< everything is listed in NZD for me, .90 per bid, paid .90 nzd per bid,,, hmmm ?



Yea they have changed the help page since I hit them up about it...
It now has the price of the bids in 4 different currencies (abit OTT?).

[dave_a]

I would be expecting it to turn up, Did they say what model camera it was?

[Mandy]

So the Camera I won on BidHere finally arrived this morning. Its brand new and the same model they said they were going to send... :first:

So I guess its not a scamming website after all?

My partner also won a Wii and it has been delivered to (read: I got a Wii for my birthday) :yeah:

[pzkpfw]

So I guess its not a scamming website after all?

Except for the people who paid money to bid, and didn't get a camera sent to them.

[Jantar]

Except for the people who paid money to bid, and didn't get a camera sent to them.
If they really wanted the camera, they do have the option of clicking on "Buy Now", and all the money they have spent on bids for that item are deducted from the price they have to pay. Shipping is still free.

Around Xmas time I'll be looking for a new TV worth a few thousand. I'll bid on one on this site, and if I reach the stage that I've spent 3/4 of the value on bids, then I'll simply withdraw and "Buy Now".

[nothingflash]

So the Camera I won on BidHere finally arrived this morning. Its brand new and the same model they said they were going to send... :first:

So I guess its not a scamming website after all?

My partner also won a Wii and it has been delivered to (read: I got a Wii for my birthday) :yeah:

Well fuck me....good stuff.

[mashman]

i'm having a completely different experience with them. I'll not say more just now because i'm likely one of a very few and it's a great thing that you guys are getting things hassle free!!! did anyone get a contact number for these guys as they're hell bent on not providing me with a point of contact for my "query", to the extent that they have stopped answering my emails!!! In fact are their any consumer law guys in here that could maybe help a fella out on a couple of things???

[Mandy]

I'd just get Target or someone like that onto it and let them do all the work for you! They usually get pretty good results.

[mossy1200]

So there was only one bid on that "auction"?

Or do I misunderstand your post?

Did you use the free bids plus one more that you paid for?

What was the final price on it? How many bids?

They have bid packs being auctioned and say the retail is $900 nzd for 1000 bids so does this indicate the bid cost is 90cents each?
By the time an auction reaches $30 they would have received 1500 bids at 90cents each so thats $1350 in bids plus $30 for the win so it easy to see were the money is made.
If you have a paypal invoice then it means they have accepted that you won for whatever value it was.They wouldnt invoice unless you won the item so assume its yours.They will be working averages and for them win on most loose on some.Almost every lucky person gets hooked and continues bidding on other items so its loose in the long run and winners spread the news to others and they grow bigger lists of bidders every day.They are running odds like casino.

[mossy1200]

Do you mean the final price for the camera was $130 ?

At $0.02 increase per bid, that would mean 6,500 bids were made.

What do people pay for the right to bid on this site?

i.e. How much money did they get for those 6,500 bids?


edit: found it on the site. $0.75 each.

So those 6,500 bids got them $4,875 (+ that $130!).

Someone's "winning"!
they have bid packs on auction claiming 1000bids carries retail value of 900nzd so you can assume bids cost 90cents each to place.

[Jantar]

My camera arrived yesterday, and its exactly as advertised. Absolutely top of the line, digital still plus movie. My credit card was debited a total of $0.02 and that included postage and packaging. So looks like a genuine site to me.

[k14]

Yeah it is fully legit, my MP3 player showed up on Wednesday. All as stated, cost me $0.02. Probably won't bid on anything else though, too many people know about it now.

Seems as though the company is based in auzzie (my package was sent from there) but they may send stuff from specific regions so the goods work in the country that the bidder won the auction in. Just a guess though.

[mossy1200]

Yeah it is fully legit, my MP3 player showed up on Wednesday. All as stated, cost me $0.02. Probably won't bid on anything else though, too many people know about it now.

Seems as though the company is based in auzzie (my package was sent from there) but they may send stuff from specific regions so the goods work in the country that the bidder won the auction in. Just a guess though.

And the more people that get in the longer the auctions go on each and the higher their returns.Its like a pyrimid scheme.Those in first are the only winners because the site reaches saturation .The average return per auction will get higher and higher.Calculated a few and they are returning twice retail already.

$`1125 tv is 42 in bids means $46 times 50bids per dollar times 90cents per bid = $2200 plus the $46 win and its still going.

Ill post the final return if it ever finishes...


Here is a better one camera worth $2872 has $272 on it meaning 13600 bids at 90 cents = $12,240 return so far and climbing

[mossy1200]

Online chat conversation with them.

Please wait for a site operator to respond.

You are now chatting with 'bidhere'

you: camera worth $2872 has $272 on it meaning 13600 bids at 90 cents = $12,240 return so far and climbing

bidhere: Welcome to Bidhere, How can I help you?

you: camera worth $2872 has $272 on it meaning 13600 bids at 90 cents = $12,240 return so far and climbing

you: seems like a pyrimid scheme

bidhere: yes, we are to be honest frustrated with that climb and want it to end soon, it's been there for 3 days.

you: people lose money quickly

bidhere: Its not a pyramid scheme, it is run by members, and as you can see, none of the bidders are giving up on it.

bidhere: another Nikon D90 which started a few hours ago, ended for around $2

bidhere: they have a option to buy it anytime

bidhere: and get the bid money they spent on item off from retail, so they're not really losing money.

you: yes but as interest in the site increases so does your profit margins

bidhere: They are aware of the fact they can buy it, that's the reason they're still bidding on it.

bidhere: nothing wrong with profit margins, we still will bring cheaper deals to customers.

you: doesnt help people who cant afford the product and are trying to get a bargin because they cant buy it without enough money

bidhere: That's the reason we have buy now and winning tips, if you followed it, you won't waste your money.

you: I believe this is moraly wrong but if you can sleep at night thats your call.Wont catch me bidding though.

bidhere: and no one is being forced to participate, they don't have to.

you: see ya

bidhere: why is it morally wrong to give away some cheap deals to people?

bidhere: what is wrong with it? how about the lotto that government runs?

you: for every cheep deal there is hundreds that walk away with nothing

bidhere: or the casinos?

bidhere: not really, they can anytime buy it for discount.

you: doesnt make casinos moraly right does it?

bidhere: so you should bid on it, if you want to buy the product. have fun bidding, if you dont win, buy it anyway

[k14]

I don't see what your problem is. No one is forcing anyone to go and spend their own money on the site. Everyone that bids is fully aware of the process. They are not decieving or lieing about anything. 100% up front and making a good business idea work.

I suppose you go into the warehouse and give them stick for having a 200% markup on their stock too?

[mossy1200]

I don't see what your problem is. No one is forcing anyone to go and spend their own money on the site. Everyone that bids is fully aware of the process. They are not decieving or lieing about anything. 100% up front and making a good business idea work.

I suppose you go into the warehouse and give them stick for having a 200% markup on their stock too?

Because like a pyrimid scheme as the members increase the auctions last longer increasing in value and even though you can purchace the item and include the amount you spent bidding not everyone can afford to do that and lose every sent they spent.Think logic and say its a $2700 camera.What percentage of the bidders do you think can afford the camera or would spend that money on the camera even if they could.Trapped into a buy it for retail or lose all the bidding money.Its designed to hook those who cant afford.

[sil3nt]

My login mysteriously stopped working. They wouldn't send me a password to my email so i tried a new login and now apparently i have multiple accounts. Bullshit site that shouldn't be allowed to operate. Glad people got there stuff for 2 cents although i have my doubts since i have never seen any auction go for 2 cents i even checked the site at some ridiculous time in the morning and bids were still going. And the things that people said they had just won didn't appear on the ended auctions page (expect one person). Hope people don't waste too much money and let these fuckers get super rich for nothing.

[Jantar]

....i have never seen any auction go for 2 cents i even checked the site at some ridiculous time in the morning ....
Remember this site isn't just a New Zealand one, and what may be a ridiculius time in the morning for you is late morning in USA or mid evening in Perth.

I am satisfied that it is genuine, but now that it has a good number of members I don't expect to see the bargains that were going during the first week. I probably won't be bidding on it again until mid way through next year when we are planning on upgrading our TV. I'll buy enough bids to actually buy the TV, and if it gets to the stage that I am approaching using most of my bids I'll just click on the Buy Now.

The ones who will lose money are those who bid on something they aren't really intending on buying anyway, or those who just treat the site as an online raffle at $0.90 a ticket.