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ital916
18th October 2009, 17:43
Talked to a couple people today about the acc charges.

Itll be the death of motorcycling they say.

Itll kill big bikes they say.

Itll cause bike stores to shut down they say.

Well I say fuck acc....and the government.

Im not going to stop riding because of this. Even if I have to work three jobs to pay for the rego costs, Ill have my bloody bike and the day they try to price me off the road is they day I drive it through the front doors of parliment, straight into the chambers, give them all the big finger and tell them to fuck themsevles.

Look at this forum. This isnt destroying motorcycling. It has done the opposite, it has united a group that is used to fighting among themselves.

A slogan for the campaign, how bout. Lets fucking do this.

Some may quit. Im diggin in for the long haul.

Motorcycling will never die. NEVERRRR!

P.s this thread isnt meant to be adding to the campaign in any way, its a motivational thread.

98tls
18th October 2009, 17:47
Personally ive taken no notice of it really,there will be a hiss and a roar from the motorcycling public they in turn will knock a few hundy off the rego and everyone will go yea :banana:we showed them,reality is we still get arse raped just not to the same extent as we were going to.Game over.

ital916
18th October 2009, 17:49
Personally ive taken no notice of it really,there will be a hiss and a roar from the motorcycling public they in turn will knock a few hundy off the rego and everyone will go yea :banana:we showed them,reality is we still get arse raped just not to the same extent as we were going to.Game over.

well a dude showed me an article today where they proposed 1000 buck rego for 1000cc bikes like a couple years ago.

Genie
18th October 2009, 17:55
i'd like to say that owning a car used to be a luxary that very few could afford....owning a motorbike was another luxury. Having a tv was a luxury. We have it pretty sweet with all we have, 2 cars, 6 tv with dvd players, no motorbike as yet but i am not letting a price hike in rego stop me. To me it's about enjoying my life and if it costs....so be it. It is only money. Plus it's cheaper than me owning another horse!!!!!!

It will be my honour to go and spend $500 or so on to reg my new bike (when i buy it).....that $500 will give me freedom, fun, friends and a huge thrill!!!!!

ital916
18th October 2009, 17:56
i'd like to say that owning a car used to be a luxary that very few could afford....owning a motorbike was another luxury. Having a tv was a luxury. We have it pretty sweet with all we have, 2 cars, 6 tv with dvd players, no motorbike as yet but i am not letting a price hike in rego stop me. To me it's about enjoying my life and if it costs....so be it. It is only money. Plus it's cheaper than me owning another horse!!!!!!

It will be my honour to go and spend $500 or so on to reg my new bike (when i buy it).....that $500 will give me freedom, fun, friends and a huge thrill!!!!!

thats the spirit! :headbang::2thumbsup

98tls
18th October 2009, 17:57
May well go and buy a new Buell about now,could use the savings for rego.:clap:

McJim
18th October 2009, 18:01
'sgot a Rotax engine in hasn't it? Just coz Buell's gone pop don't meant the Europeans will stop supporting the wearable parts so why so cheap?

ital916
18th October 2009, 18:08
'sgot a Rotax engine in hasn't it? Just coz Buell's gone pop don't meant the Europeans will stop supporting the wearable parts so why so cheap?

Cos americans figure that the company has gone under so sales will all of a sudden stop. Now is the best time to buy a new buell. They come with a ten year parts guarantee. Thats ten years to put 700000 km on the thing.

Katman
18th October 2009, 18:09
Rather than being a motivational thread I think it's a very poorly thought out one.

You are virtually sending out the message that you don't care that the levy is going up as much as it is. If other motorcyclists start thinking like that they'll have made the politicans job that much easier.

mattian
18th October 2009, 18:13
Unfortunately it will mean the death of motorcycling as a weekend hobby, for those of you that own more than one bike and use a car as well.Those are the people who are going to find it a real stretch financially. For those of us that don't own a car and ride for our commute everyday and for fun on weekends it wont be so much of a slap in the face.

ital916
18th October 2009, 18:14
Rather than being a motivational thread I think it's a very poorly thought out one.

You are virtually sending out the message that you don't care that the levy is going up as much as it is. If other motorcyclists start thinking like that they'll have made the politicans job that much easier.

Fight for the best point mate but prepare for the worst. Ill fight the levy increases but it all reality they will go up, just not to the extent we are frightened off. What I've heard today is people saying even an increase in rego to 500 hundy is too much. For scooters it definately is, for a litre bike....not really.

As for thought out....meh, there are worse posts like mine. Specially this one about I read bout the mods needing to be stabbed with a pitchfork. Dude who wrote it, blew a gasket or something.

ital916
18th October 2009, 18:16
Can we safely assume that you and Katweasel sleep together. Just give in, or wait till someone tells you what to do next.

It's 2009, cretin. Cars, bikes, TV's and the like were luxuries when I was ten years old and the world as still mildly sane.

Today such items are not luxuries.

But you just go right ahead and pay. No doubt at the next affront you'll do the same thing.

But that's okay. In this world there has to be the meek and mild, and those who aren't.

I'm happy with you being a part of the meek and the mild because you provide me with a cause celebre to be otherwise.

Let's face it. Chicken shit is chicken shit, regardless of the smeller's nose.

Theres fighting a win-able battle and then fighting an un-winable battle. Fighting for no regos increases is futile. Fighting for a smaller increase in rego prices as well as a greater rider and driver education push is win-able.

Im not kidding myself, come next year, money is going out of pocket. As much as we all rar rar rar about not paying, they will just push through laws to increase no rego fines (maybe - can someone clarify the rules behind fines). But fighting so that next year the amount going out of pocket doesnt make me cry is worth it.

Katman
18th October 2009, 18:18
Theres fighting a win-able battle and then fighting an un-winable battle. Fighting for no regos increases is futile. Fighting for a smaller increase in rego prices as well as a greater rider and driver education push is win-able.

I think we should be fighting for a far fairer system.

Those who don't claim anything from ACC shouldn't be paying for those that repeatedly do.

Indiana_Jones
18th October 2009, 18:20
Motorcycling will never die. NEVERRRR!

P.s this thread isnt meant to be adding to the campaign in any way, its a motivational thread.

I'm with this guy.

As with my firearms, from my cold dead hands....

-Indy

Ixion
18th October 2009, 18:44
well a dude showed me an article today where they proposed 1000 buck rego for 1000cc bikes like a couple years ago.

More than a couple of years ago, that was the '93 protest ride. We stopped them then , we'll stop them now. Or at least have a bloody good go at it.

Me, I have a car for a toy. The bikes are my transport, there's no question quitting, I can't be having with walking to work at my time of life.

Who do you think you're kidding Mr Smith , if you think the old Biker's done ?

JohnR
18th October 2009, 18:45
I think we should be fighting for a far fairer system.

Those who don't claim anything from ACC shouldn't be paying for those that repeatedly do.


You mean like private accident insurance?:(

ital916
18th October 2009, 18:49
More than a couple of years ago, that was the '93 protest ride. We stopped them then , we'll stop them now. Or at least have a bloody good go at it.

Me, I have a car for a toy. The bikes are my transport, there's no question quitting, I can't be having with walking to work at my time of life.

Who do you think you're kidding Mr Smith , if you think the old Biker's done ?

Darn straight, I dont have a car. I have a bike to get from a to b, be it a to b touring, a to b canyon carving or a to b running the errands. Cant forget us young bikers. Im sure as hell not getting off bikes now that I've discovered the joy of riding.

98tls
18th October 2009, 18:54
I think we should be fighting for a far fairer system.

Those who don't claim anything from ACC shouldn't be paying for those that repeatedly do. The fight for fairer systems in this country should have been started many years ago,i in no way agree with the extent of the rego rises but find it amusing that everyones jumping up and down about $500 when we have been donating through the neverending welfare system for years,far more than rego rises.Governments in this country long ago worked out that they can pretty much do whatever they want.In this case its my belief they come out with an inflated version and will then trim it somewhat so the masses feel a little appeased.

Ragingrob
18th October 2009, 18:57
Darn straight, I dont have a car. I have a bike to get from a to b, be it a to b touring, a to b canyon carving or a to b running the errands. Cant forget us young bikers. Im sure as hell not getting off bikes now that I've discovered the joy of riding.

Such a joy that you get rides into uni by car rather than riding half the time??

:wacko:

Some people would rather be able to use there money for other things in life such as getting overseas. Getting three crappy jobs just to support riding a motorcycle would not have enough value for me, or many other people, I wouldn't call it "quitting" though, if it came down to that...

FJRider
18th October 2009, 18:58
As for thought out....meh, there are worse posts like mine. Specially this one about I read bout the mods needing to be stabbed with a pitchfork. Dude who wrote it, blew a gasket or something.

Yeah !!!!! ... read that one ... sounds like a tosser ...

Brian d marge
18th October 2009, 19:05
Yeeeehaaaaa

Pay dat monie

Stephen

The Stranger
18th October 2009, 19:33
so why so cheap?

It's over 600cc of course.

325rocket
18th October 2009, 20:43
A slogan for the campaign, how bout. Lets fucking do this.

Some may quit. Im diggin in for the long haul.

Motorcycling will never die. NEVERRRR!


fuck yeah. fuck the fuckers!

zahria
18th October 2009, 20:49
The fight for fairer systems in this country should have been started many years ago,i in no way agree with the extent of the rego rises but find it amusing that everyones jumping up and down about $500 when we have been donating through the neverending welfare system for years,far more than rego rises.Governments in this country long ago worked out that they can pretty much do whatever they want.In this case its my belief they come out with an inflated version and will then trim it somewhat so the masses feel a little appeased.

concur, my thoughts for a long time.

CM2005
18th October 2009, 20:53
I'll just put my bikes rego on hold or on farm, and try and avoid the coppers where possible

avgas
18th October 2009, 21:07
I imagine the bike will get less and less use as time continues. The RUC on the work wagon will go up and up......so either way in their mind they still win. But does ACC get money from RUC?

Indiana_Jones
18th October 2009, 22:38
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-Indy

peasea
19th October 2009, 05:48
Personally ive taken no notice of it really,there will be a hiss and a roar from the motorcycling public they in turn will knock a few hundy off the rego and everyone will go yea :banana:we showed them,reality is we still get arse raped just not to the same extent as we were going to.Game over.

Yeah, I can't help but think that they were probably aiming for 550-600 in the first place; just mention a higher figure and come back to where they feel the public will bend over. Whatever the figure they won't get a full 12 months out of me/us.

peasea
19th October 2009, 05:49
try and avoid the coppers where possible

............as always.

peasea
19th October 2009, 05:50
fuck yeah. fuck the fuckers!

Oh, that's so deep. Well spoken.

SARGE
19th October 2009, 05:57
gotta love Socialism, eh?.. in the US, our (full cover) vehicle insurance covers medical bills ...


why coulnt they do that here ?...


oh yea .. it makes sense..

ManDownUnder
19th October 2009, 06:11
gotta love Socialism, eh?.. in the US, our (full cover) vehicle insurance covers medical bills ...


why coulnt they do that here ?...

You're in New Zealand now mate. We don't do 'personal responsibility' here.

vifferman
19th October 2009, 09:08
I haintgonna quit.
Motorbicycling is the only thing that gives my life any meaning.

Genie
20th October 2009, 13:44
I haintgonna quit.
Motorbicycling is the only thing that gives my life any meaning.

please...not the only thing that gives your life meaning...surely there's more?

Ixion
20th October 2009, 14:01
Of course. Sex and beer. Of course, if you're a celibate teetotaller, motorcycling is all you have to fall back on.

And really sucks to be a celibate, teetotal non biker, now that ACC isn't going to pay out on suicides.

Brian d marge
20th October 2009, 14:05
gotta love Socialism, eh?.. in the US, our (full cover) vehicle insurance covers medical bills ...


why coulnt they do that here ?...


oh yea .. it makes sense..

My mate has lost his house , and pretty much everything , bike accident , helicopter ride , insurance didn't cover everything

I DONT want that in NZ


Stephen

It is with great despair that I share with you that Mark Brownlee from Sherman
Texas ,our rider on the Bonneville bullet was injured in a car motorcycle
accident and is now confined to a wheel chair. I just found out yesterday and
was really shocked. Mark is in good spirits under the circumstances and he was
sorry he had not gotten hold of me sooner but under the circumstances I was out
of reach. Mark lives in a very nice home inside a polebarn , unfortunately his
home is not wheel chair accesible and he is forced to stay in a motel at the
moment so he could escape the hospital! His occupation as a home inspector has
come to a screaching halt and he has mounting medical bills etc. Please consider
sending him a email a card , and possibly a donation. I intend to offer on ebay
our bonneville bullet DVD for Ten dollars, and I will give the proceeds to Mark
! I would like to help him any way I can and I wish I was in Texas. I will
include his email address and mailing address in closing and ask that any and
all of you who can spare anything send him something. Even if it is a gift card
, can goods , buy the video , send money, do all of the above . The hospital has
put a lien on his house and he has no income , no insurance, the helicopter life
flight alone is $22000.00 . I know we all need help and these are tough times
but if you can find it in your heart and spare anything , even time as I beleive
he is down their virtually all alone.

Dan Holmes
PayPal for any cash donations , and or purchase of video.
dch23@...

JMBRO9@...

Morcs
20th October 2009, 14:09
Id quite happily pay 1000 per year in rego, as long as the cops would leave us the fuck alone.

SARGE
20th October 2009, 16:09
My mate has lost his house , and pretty much everything , bike accident , helicopter ride , insurance didn't cover everything

I DONT want that in NZ


Stephen

It is with great despair that I share with you that Mark Brownlee from Sherman
Texas ,our rider on the Bonneville bullet was injured in a car motorcycle
accident and is now confined to a wheel chair. I just found out yesterday and
was really shocked. Mark is in good spirits under the circumstances and he was
sorry he had not gotten hold of me sooner but under the circumstances I was out
of reach. Mark lives in a very nice home inside a polebarn , unfortunately his
home is not wheel chair accesible and he is forced to stay in a motel at the
moment so he could escape the hospital! His occupation as a home inspector has
come to a screaching halt and he has mounting medical bills etc. Please consider
sending him a email a card , and possibly a donation. I intend to offer on ebay
our bonneville bullet DVD for Ten dollars, and I will give the proceeds to Mark
! I would like to help him any way I can and I wish I was in Texas. I will
include his email address and mailing address in closing and ask that any and
all of you who can spare anything send him something. Even if it is a gift card
, can goods , buy the video , send money, do all of the above . The hospital has
put a lien on his house and he has no income , no insurance, the helicopter life
flight alone is $22000.00 . I know we all need help and these are tough times
but if you can find it in your heart and spare anything , even time as I beleive
he is down their virtually all alone.

Dan Holmes
PayPal for any cash donations , and or purchase of video.
dch23@...

JMBRO9@...

then at THAT point the Lawyers get involved .. if the car driver was at fault he could and SHOULD be forced to pay, even to the point of losing HIS house, car, big screen TV etc ..


user pays at its purest form ..

i just sent a donation btw ..get well Mark

Brian d marge
21st October 2009, 01:11
then at THAT point the Lawyers get involved .. if the car driver was at fault he could and SHOULD be forced to pay, even to the point of losing HIS house, car, big screen TV etc ..


user pays at its purest form ..

i just sent a donation btw ..get well Mark
Thank he will appreciate that

Community in its purest form

Those 2 did wonders with that old enfield

Stephen

peasea
21st October 2009, 05:26
If I ever had to give up riding my motorcycle for whatever reason I'd be seeking assistance from ACC for loss of quality of life, mental trauma, alcohol addiction, depression, back pain (coz I'd be bent over 24/7 trying to suck my dick for entertainment) and any other gad-damned thing I could feign at the quack's office.

I'd probably earn more anyway.

davereid
21st October 2009, 07:27
I certainly wont be quitting, it will possibly be an incentive to move from a 650 to either end of the spectrum.. ie up to 1400 or down below 600.

It pisses me off as I actually enjoy using my bikes(s) for transport, not just a weekend blast.

Money alone is not my only motvation, and it will still be cheaper to take my scooter to work than the car, but not by much.

It will possibly tip the balance for new riders,who now would choose a 250 instead of a moped, or just get a car.

Brian d marge
21st October 2009, 13:41
Can we get Acc for loss of Motorcycle

I mean it is loss of quality of life , due to another idiot (s)

Therefore it must qualify for ACC

Stephen

portokiwi
21st October 2009, 14:00
:lol: I am just waiting for the big sales on bikes then I might be able to buy another bike...:( I miss riding soooooo much.:(

Brian d marge
21st October 2009, 19:03
:lol: I am just waiting for the big sales on bikes then I might be able to buy another bike...:( I miss riding soooooo much.:(

been watching and if anything the damn things are going

UP!!!!!


Stephen