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carver
18th October 2009, 20:48
I rode one back to back with a CRF250X, and loved the X and hated the DRZ...
but i have been offered a very cheap DRZ, and its not too bad.

anyone have anything to say about these?
reliable?tough?
i know it will be a bit of a pig in the tight stuff, what can i do to improve it?

also, the jetting always seems a bit strange on these, just in going between neutal and open throttle, there seems to be a lag.

tommorth
18th October 2009, 21:04
pretty sure they have a cv carb on them like a klx which would cause the lag in the throttle theres a kit for the klx so theres probably one for the drz

I rode one at thunder a few weeks ago it felt slow and gutless and had a very soft front end the electric start was nice the girls loved not having to kick it .
imo a good bike to learn to ride on commute or round up cows rekon an xr250 would eat it alive



This is straight from the suzuki aus site lol

A blend of lightweight control and torquey four-stroke performance is the hallmark of this taut, well-mannered missile. At its core, a compact 249cc four-stroke engine featuring dual overhead cams and four-valve Twin-Swirl Combustion Chamber cylinder head for strong torquey performance.

A no-holds-barred piece of mechanical mastery, the perfect power-to-weight prescription ensures the movements of the lightweight DR-Z250 are completely at your mercy. Change direction at will throw it around corners without a hint of complaint.

Street legal and streets ahead, the DR-Z250.

kezzafish
18th October 2009, 21:11
This is straight from the suzuki aus site lol

A blend of lightweight control and torquey four-stroke performance is the hallmark of this taut, well-mannered missile. At its core, a compact 249cc four-stroke engine featuring dual overhead cams and four-valve Twin-Swirl Combustion Chamber cylinder head for strong torquey performance.

A no-holds-barred piece of mechanical mastery, the perfect power-to-weight prescription ensures the movements of the lightweight DR-Z250 are completely at your mercy. Change direction at will throw it around corners without a hint of complaint.

Street legal and streets ahead, the DR-Z250.

Ha ha haaaa, funny as fuck

barty5
18th October 2009, 21:19
i know it will be a bit of a pig in the tight stuff, what can i do to improve it?



Hmmmm buy something better

carver
18th October 2009, 21:28
Hmmmm buy something better

God its cheap though

barty5
18th October 2009, 21:33
God its cheap though

Well then buy it sell it make some $$ and buy something better.:2thumbsup

vazza
18th October 2009, 21:39
Would be a terrible bike for offroading..

B0000M
18th October 2009, 22:24
if you rode it and a (im assuming its stock) stock crf250x back to back, and loved the crf in comparison, then the drz must be pretty bad!

in stock form i found the crf250x not very nice at all! once all the factory stranglings had been removed though its a nice trail bike.

if the drz is only appealing cos its cheap - as said, buy it and flick for a profit, then buy yourself a bike you do like!

if you end up with a crf250x i can offer a bit of knowledge in how to make them go well for mimimal cost

carver
19th October 2009, 04:41
Well then buy it sell it make some $$ and buy something better.:2thumbsup

not a bad idea


Would be a terrible bike for offroading..

ya think?is the 400 any better?


if you rode it and a (im assuming its stock) stock crf250x back to back, and loved the crf in comparison, then the drz must be pretty bad!

in stock form i found the crf250x not very nice at all! once all the factory stranglings had been removed though its a nice trail bike.

if the drz is only appealing cos its cheap - as said, buy it and flick for a profit, then buy yourself a bike you do like!

if you end up with a crf250x i can offer a bit of knowledge in how to make them go well for mimimal cost

the X was a stock 06, apart from tires.
the DRZ had a few mods, big lag in the throttle though.
The DRZ just felt useless at pace, the front is too soft, there was no peak in power, and in the mud it just fell over.

i rode this one o the road, through a park, up some stairs, and it felt ok, but the gearbox seemed tight.
the guys is asking half what they go for on trade me, even two third's less!

barty5
19th October 2009, 06:41
ya think?is the 400 any better?





it weight is a lot heavier suspension wont be much better

Shorty_925
19th October 2009, 07:18
We have a DR250, but a KX front end on it(was a write-off and front end was under engine). Cant say ive ridden it as yet(cant stand the rubber mounts from the KX top clamp), but wouldnt mind being even lazier and having an electric start! Seems though its a bit of a donkey and just chugs along or that could just be the old man and the way he rides it! haha

scott411
19th October 2009, 11:02
you get what you pay for, a DRZ250 is $7750 retail new, and CRF250X is around 13000 new, big difference, and a big difference in performance as well

B0000M
19th October 2009, 13:42
you get what you pay for, a DRZ250 is $7750 retail new, and CRF250X is around 13000 new, big difference, and a big difference in performance as well

that explains it pretty clearly

you usually get what you pay for

carver
21st October 2009, 18:45
that explains it pretty clearly

you usually get what you pay for

just look at lisa lewis, cheers for your help guys

vanmajor
21st October 2009, 19:08
Hmmmm buy something better


Agreed, I've ridden one and they're a pig.

secondfield
21st October 2009, 20:07
The guy who took out first place in the akatarawa enduro this year (rookies) was riding an old tin tank drz250. out of 17 starters only 3 of us finished. he was the only one who didnt hour out! Lol. Its not the bike its the rider.... but as far as fun factor goes ... well ...

carver
21st October 2009, 20:17
The guy who took out first place in the akatarawa enduro this year (rookies) was riding an old tin tank drz250. out of 17 starters only 3 of us finished. he was the only one who didnt hour out! Lol. Its not the bike its the rider.... but as far as fun factor goes ... well ...

I will get a DNS then!

FzerozeroT
21st October 2009, 21:54
Bit too much power for you young fulla, have a look at a DS80 :niceone:

behave yourself and I might let you have a spin on my new toy :devil2:

IIIRII
22nd October 2009, 08:30
I rode one back to back with a CRF250X, and loved the X and hated the DRZ...

Havnt you already answered the question yourself ?
DRZ isnt even in the same league as the crfx

carver
22nd October 2009, 18:10
Bit too much power for you young fulla, have a look at a DS80 :niceone:

behave yourself and I might let you have a spin on my new toy :devil2:

WR250 footy?


Havnt you already answered the question yourself ?
DRZ isnt even in the same league as the crfx

i like the X

its more what i had in mind

FzerozeroT
22nd October 2009, 19:43
450, traction is overrated

carver
22nd October 2009, 20:02
450, traction is overrated

haha, what made ya get that?

road legal?

warewolf
22nd October 2009, 20:41
Sounds like the DR-Z250 is not the bike for carver, but here's some thoughts from an ex-owner.

I had an '01 model. As far as I could find, they are the same bike back to around '94, although I found a review the other day from '97 claiming them to be "completely revised and dramatically better." Photos of '94 models looks the same... Regardless, she's not a modern bike by any stretch of the imagination but has won it's class in the Finke or Aussie safari or similar in nearly stock form, so isn't (or wasn't) a complete dog.

The rear shock in mine was revalved by Craig Brown @ Colemans, man what a difference!! Didn't change the front except raised oil height in a couple of stages, it was enough improvement on a cheap bike (I'm at/under the design weight so springs were acceptable). The Aussies say the forks are crap but respond very well to racetech improvements, and the shock is fine :wacko:

The carb is a Mikuni TM28SS flat slide. Mine had a horrible bog/lag that was lean stumble, as far as I could find. A couple of different shops tried to fix it, so did I: we never did. Lots of ppl online complain about it. Fiddled with the (sticking) accelerator pump improved it marginally, tried to get it to give more fuel sooner. Then I started reading on thumpertalk about AP timing (for WRs IIRC) and I decided to trade up :lol:

In woodhill/riverhead I'd get passed by the bigger bikes on the open stuff, then get held up/repass through the single track...that's riders of somewhat similar ability. On wet days, I'd do better, relative to everyone else. Rider was definitely the limiting factor when I did the GNCC.

I never bothered to even doing basic uncorking to mine, engine was all stock stock stock (but de-restricted of course). Staintune & rejet lift rwhp by 2hp or 10-ish%; too busy riding to muck around with stuff like that.

Main reason to trade up was for less weight (picking it up on steep muddy hills 6 times in a row trying to get going again really knackers you - they have big-arse hills down this way), better power to weight, and better suspension. Definitely a value-for-money bike that performed reasonably well as an all-rounder - it was also a commuter, tourer and sports road thrashmobile with a second set of wheels - but I outgrew it.

FzerozeroT
22nd October 2009, 22:19
haha, what made ya get that?

road legal?

I wanna do a wheelie over a certain bridge :lol:

na, the roads for pussies :P

carver
23rd October 2009, 05:44
Sounds like the DR-Z250 is not the bike for carver, but here's some thoughts from an ex-owner.

I had an '01 model. As far as I could find, they are the same bike back to around '94, although I found a review the other day from '97 claiming them to be "completely revised and dramatically better." Photos of '94 models looks the same... Regardless, she's not a modern bike by any stretch of the imagination but has won it's class in the Finke or Aussie safari or similar in nearly stock form, so isn't (or wasn't) a complete dog.

The rear shock in mine was revalved by Craig Brown @ Colemans, man what a difference!! Didn't change the front except raised oil height in a couple of stages, it was enough improvement on a cheap bike (I'm at/under the design weight so springs were acceptable). The Aussies say the forks are crap but respond very well to racetech improvements, and the shock is fine :wacko:

The carb is a Mikuni TM28SS flat slide. Mine had a horrible bog/lag that was lean stumble, as far as I could find. A couple of different shops tried to fix it, so did I: we never did. Lots of ppl online complain about it. Fiddled with the (sticking) accelerator pump improved it marginally, tried to get it to give more fuel sooner. Then I started reading on thumpertalk about AP timing (for WRs IIRC) and I decided to trade up :lol:

In woodhill/riverhead I'd get passed by the bigger bikes on the open stuff, then get held up/repass through the single track...that's riders of somewhat similar ability. On wet days, I'd do better, relative to everyone else. Rider was definitely the limiting factor when I did the GNCC.

I never bothered to even doing basic uncorking to mine, engine was all stock stock stock (but de-restricted of course). Staintune & rejet lift rwhp by 2hp or 10-ish%; too busy riding to muck around with stuff like that.

Main reason to trade up was for less weight (picking it up on steep muddy hills 6 times in a row trying to get going again really knackers you - they have big-arse hills down this way), better power to weight, and better suspension. Definitely a value-for-money bike that performed reasonably well as an all-rounder - it was also a commuter, tourer and sports road thrashmobile with a second set of wheels - but I outgrew it.


thatnks for that man



I wanna do a wheelie over a certain bridge :lol:

na, the roads for pussies :P

just like ambulances when you fall off...


I ran to the hospital