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cheshirecat
20th October 2009, 18:11
ACC is a bureaucracy and they run on adminstrative detail. It is also their weak point. I know I've lived in the UK and they thrive on it. Bureaucracy is also their weak point. The ACC themselves admit admin costs have increased because people are licensing their vehicles for shorter times - they don't mention it's because some can't afford the full year.

If we tie up ACC and Nat MPs with countless questions, queries, problems, adjustments to personal and vehicle details (Goodness me, my Honda changed colour last night - notify. Oops seems to have returned to red today- notify)
They must be feeling the effects now just going off these forums, can you imagine their inboxes.

A big thing in the UK was to send a letter to the Revenue say 'RE your letter of the inst' knowing there was no letter and it took 6 months for them to search and find out. You could also put one department in contact with another trying to find out obscure details as required by the Official Information Act.

There is a wealth of opportunity here

40,000 bikers mean 40,000 questions having to be dealt with.

Another point.
As bikers we enjoy a high profile and can operate like media gorrilla warfare.

These increases hit everyone hard, it's a recession, it's not like a 10% increase. It's the arrogance of power from a situation caused by their mismanagement to which they are not answerable.

We can use our high profile to help publicise everyone's concerns, small business, cyclists, cars (and they are a few of them)

Anyway just my 2 cents

CookMySock
20th October 2009, 20:54
40,000 questions, lol thats fucken funny az. That will fuck them up. :killingme

Steve

rainman
20th October 2009, 22:04
I'd really you rather didn't waste my tax dollars on 40,000 pointless OIA requests, and all you'd achieve would be:

1. Waste money and productive effort,
2. Make government officials less happy about fulfilling their accountability obligations, and
3. Make bikers look like dicks

But if you wanna, hey it's a democracy, anyone can play.

Pixie
21st October 2009, 08:58
I'd really you rather didn't waste my tax dollars on 40,000 pointless OIA requests, and all you'd achieve would be:

1. Waste money and productive effort,
2. Make government officials less happy about fulfilling their accountability obligations, and
3. Make bikers look like dicks

But if you wanna, hey it's a democracy, anyone can play.

My response:

1. You're talking about a government department :lol::lol::lol::lol:

2. See 1.

3. you may want to pay $750 so you don't look like a dick to another dick (ACC drone)

Clockwork
21st October 2009, 09:39
I'd really you rather didn't waste my tax dollars on 40,000 pointless OIA requests, and all you'd achieve would be:

1. Waste money and productive effort,
2. Make government officials less happy about fulfilling their accountability obligations, and
3. Make bikers look like dicks

But if you wanna, hey it's a democracy, anyone can play.

No effective protest is without its casulaties, this may be one way to direct the pain to where it is needed.

wingrider
21st October 2009, 10:00
All politicians and large companies employ 'spin doctors" ( PR, press secretaries etc) who write the dribble that is released to the public.

In the case of politicians these people have an affilliation to the political party they work for.

Any politician who does not proof read the release and check it for accuracy is open to ridicule as is the present case.

Likewise the CEO of any department.

They are then fair game to be targeted with a response to verify their claims AS SHOULD BE THE PERSON WHO WROTE IT.

Other employees are just that, workers like the majority of us. ( and i bet there are a few riders within ACC)

To put pressure on them that will result in undue work related stress because the boss is demanding they fix the stuffup is unfair and may result in alienating those who are probably supporting us.

It is the individuals who are making the statements. lets make them responsible for their own shortcomings.