Registration On Hold Protest

[Mystic13]

I have just rung LTSA - 0800 108 809

I've put all of my road registered bikes registrations on hold. So one ends in November 2009 and another in June 2010 etc.

They allow you to put registrations on hold over the phone and it applies from the end of the period you're registered to. I don't care whether I will register or not when the renewal date comes. I want to let them know I am unhappy.

I wonder what it will be like if they get hundreds of calls from bikers putting registrations on hold out into the future as notice they're unhappy.

It's just a form of protest and a way to signal the government indirectly.

FYI
1/ If you choose to register within 3 months of the start of the "On Hold period" then your rego will be back dated to the start of that period.

2/ After 3 months of this period if you decide to register you will pay rego from that date.

3/ If the bike is sold and taken on by a new owner then registration will be from that date even if it is inside the 3 month period.


Cheers

[nosebleed]

Was/is there a fee?

[Coldrider]

I do not consider that to be a protest, the motorcycles on hold are not capable of a ACC claim when not on the road, unless you injure yourself moving them around the garage, or ride them on the road illegally.

[Mystic13]

Also let the lovely know in a nice way that this is as a result of the proposed ACC fees increase.

I will also email LTSA and let them know I've done this and why.

I was thinking about emailing ACC but I'm not sure that its worth contacting them because this is their baby. More noise to others may be more useful.

[Coldrider]

If the injuries are skewed in favour of a period (say summer), and mass motorcycles are only rego'd in this period, then at a future time ACC are not recovering enough to cover injuries they will only put the levies up again.

[Mystic13]

No fee.


I do not consider that to be a protest, the motorcycles on hold are not capable of a ACC claim when not on the road, unless you injure yourself moving them around the garage, or ride them on the road illegally.

Thanks for your comment.

Good point, and I am putting them on hold out into the future. Whether I decide to register or not will be made at the time. In future if the fee rises go through I would definitely register less bikes. I would still keep my road bike that I do high k's on registered. But this is about making noise that the government can see and know about.


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********** I also let the lovely lady know in a polite way that the on hold was in response to the proposed ACC fees. **********

********** I plan to email LTSA. I am hopeful that LTSA will be advising the Government that they are getting a large number of motorcycles putting their registrations on hold. **********

Would that message get through? I don't know but it seems to be worth a try.

[Swoop]

Was/is there a fee?
No.

You can also put a rego on hold, online.
https://transact.landtransport.govt.nz/transactions/LicensingExemption/entry.aspx

[Mystic13]

If the injuries are skewed in favour of a period (say summer), and mass motorcycles are only rego'd in this period, then at a future time ACC are not recovering enough to cover injuries they will only put the levies up again.

To what $3,000 a bike? At this point in time we need to make as much noise as possible or roll over and accept the pain.

There are already plenty of arguments going against the fee increase. Personally I think if the fee rise goes through they will see a drop in the number of registered motorcycles (i.e. more on hold) and they'll see a increase in the numbers of vehicles that pay part year registrations.

It seems that your argument would be that would see more increases.

This is just a way to protest and get a message through.

You're making an assumption that these will end up on hold.

My intention is to protest and make noise. Whether I register at the time it comes up for renewal or not doesn't matter.

What happens if hundreds or thousands of bikers ring in and put their rego's on hold from the end of the current period.

I see this as an effective form of lobby particularly if you email LTSA but you need everyone to play. The more noise the more we'll be heard.

Also a large number of bikes going on hold would mean that they would see their revenue stream falling and therefore they would be more inclined to seek other more reliable sources.

Don't under estimate the effects of making noise or destroying ACC's planned revenue model.

If this is loud and strong and bought to goverment attention then they'd likely look for more reliable revenue sources.

Which means they won't increase our fees.

[Coldrider]

It is the right thing to do if you are not actually using them.
Mine has been continually rego'd, can go months without use, but to say there is a 3 month period where I will not want to use it, I cannot commit to.
It would be the same price to rego for the next 12 months (as mine is due now), than to say rego for the next 3 months, put on hold for say 5 months, then rego for 4 months at the new price.

[Mystic13]

It is the right thing to do if you are not actually using them.
Mine has been continually rego'd, can go months without use, but to say there is a 3 month period where I will not want to use it, I cannot commit to.
It would be the same price to rego for the next 12 months (as mine is due now), than to say rego for the next 3 months, put on hold for say 5 months, then rego for 4 months at the new price.

Fair point. If you're going to rego the bike you'd want to do it as close to the increase date as possible. If you have a bike for rego now and you don't want to be without the rego then you'd register it. If the rego is further out then that's a different story.

If i'm riding a deregistered bike and get pulled up I'd be saying I was just heading in to register it.

The aim of "on hold" is to make noise.

Yes you can do it online. Although I'd still email LTSA. If phoning in and voicing to the lady so that if she gets to hear that 100 times does it get noted and advised.

Of course you could ring your bikes in one at a time as well.

Personally I think this is a good idea but we all know that ideas are like babies we all love our own.

Cheers

[Mystic13]

Email address for LTSA

info@nzta.govt.nz

Email address for ACC

consultation@acc.co.nz

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My email to LTSA

Hi

I wanted to advise that today I have put my motorcycle registration on hold in protest at the proposed ACC levy increase. My motorcycle rego number is .............

If ACC think they are going to get more money out of me they have misjudged the strong feeling of riders toward this unjustified increase which relies on poor statistics. The proposed fee increase is unwarranted and unfair.

I believe ACC's proposed increase has failed to take into account a drop in motorcycle registration income. They should look elsewhere for their income.


Kind regards

[Mystic13]

Anyone else think this is a good idea?

[Pixie]

Anyone else think this is a good idea?
Me
"sorry ossifer,I took it off hold on-line - must be a computer glitch

[pzkpfw]

0800 numbers cost them (LTSA, in this case, not ACC) money.

That'll make 'em take more notice.

(Not sure what effect it'd have. But it would register something, somewhere.)

[Subike]

Putting your reg on hold will have no difference to ACC, or the govmint.
reg fees are gathered ,
the ACC component is seperated by an accounting computor programme, then deposited in bulk each day into the ACC coffers.
Nobody would even notice the difference which would be a very low %.
Trying to withdraw finacial support from reg fees will do nothing.
This is a fight that needs to be In The Face of the Political Law Makers not the pocket of a bank account.
I keep my bike reg on hold, I have only registered it once for three months in the past 5 years, that was to cover a non reg vehicle infringment notice which was dropped when I produced the registration recepit dated for that day, it has a current WOF all the time.
This would not work for everyone, I live in a rural area, and I am a weekend rider, so the risk of getting caught is lower than city dwellers.
But back to the point.
Withholding reg as a protest will do nothing at all,
will not even come up on the radar as a blip as its only money transfers between computors,
thus is not in the face of those who change policy.

[Clockwork]

Removing our rego plates altogether may be a more obvious protest, but a lot (ie most) of us would need to do it and be prepared to wear the invitable fines.

[Rodney007]

rego's on hold FTW!!!!!!!!!

[pete376403]

Removing our rego plates altogether may be a more obvious protest, but a lot (ie most) of us would need to do it and be prepared to wear the invitable fines.

If you had no plate and if you were pulled by a cop and if you didn't produce your licence - how would they know who to ticket? Is failing to produce a licence an arrestable offence?

[kwaka_crasher]

If you had no plate and if you were pulled by a cop and if you didn't produce your licence - how would they know who to ticket? Is failing to produce a licence an arrestable offence?

You can be held until your identity is established.

[Ms Piggy]

If you're rego is on hold and you are still riding your bike and have an accident I assume your insurance would be invalid?

[Clockwork]

I'm not suggesting not paying your rego, just removing your plate. I wouldn't have thought that would invalidate your insurance.

[wingrider]

I'm sorry but I will not support any action that is going to piss off the Police even if they were to see it as a legitimate protest action.

To tie them up in processing this sort of thing is not on ( but I understand your intentions).

Why bring that sort of attention to yourself and more importantly give the media something more to bag us as irresponsible.

Remember that they (media) are looking for confrontational actions that will highlight that we are the bad guys.

I support you in your efforts to get this injustice addressed but we need to be careful.

There are many cops who are also just as pissed off as we are, are also riders and are being supportive of what is planned.

I wish I had other ideas that were constructive but at present I do not.

Please fellas this is not a personal attack on you. I am just as frustrated and want to punch someone as well.

[vgcspares]

ACC would be happy if we all put our regos on hold because the accidents would stop

The Cops would also be happy because they could nab anyone who still tried to have their own pet accident