Exhaust WOF testing. Failed.

[Morcs]

Apparently the can on my NC35 is too loud.

Its loud, but not outrageously loud. Its quiet compared to my Fazer, and a lot quieter than big twins like Tls and VTRs...

I tried getting a warrant at cycletreads as they know bikes, and will know whats important and whats beurocratic shit, but wasnt happy with the exhaust test.

Whats the manner in how its done? Im pretty sure it was done in the workshop. In a building. WTF. sound reverberates and is amplified?

Anyone know somewhere I can get a warrant?

If I pay for a warrant, I expect a warrant.

[sAsLEX]

There used to be a recognised international standard they could use to determine exhaust noise.

But they replaced that with a shit knee jerk law to the "Boi Racers"

[blossomsowner]

get my warrant done at ross taylor auto in pukekohe. Rode bike in........skidded to prove it had brakes. turned it off. They checked lights and mirrors and tyres, didn't start it or take it off the stand.
2 minutes.
warrant done.

[george formby]

:eek5:I got my wof done yesterday, at a car garage. Checked lights etc, pivoted bike on sidestand for wheel bearings front & rear. Cursory check of the brakes. Jobs a goodun. But I have indecently loud pipes & it never gets mentioned. I would suggest a local car garage, they have fewer facilitys to check a bike & seem to rush them through as if they are to much hassle. How does an open piped Harley get a warrant?
I was in cycletreads a while back for tyres & a Harley came up the ramp, I nearly shoited meself!

[Motu]

Whats the manner in how its done? Im pretty sure it was done in the workshop. In a building. WTF. sound reverberates and is amplified?


They have an Info sheet in their VIRM that tells them the test procedure and how to do it,what instruments are authorised.Noise is not quite what it sounds like.The limit for a bike is 100db,but unfortunately they have to fail you at 97db to allow for discrepancies.So then you have to supply proof that it is under 100db.

Get your arse into gear and get it quiet.

[zahria]

They have an Info sheet in their VIRM that tells them the test procedure and how to do it,what instruments are authorised.Noise is not quite what it sounds like.The limit for a bike is 100db,but unfortunately they have to fail you at 97db to allow for discrepancies.So then you have to supply proof that it is under 100db.

Get your arse into gear and get it quiet.

My VTR failed its wof too. Got standard cans put back on. Can't hear the thing now...

[tee]

Apparently the can on my NC35 is too loud.

Its loud, but not outrageously loud. Its quiet compared to my Fazer, and a lot quieter than big twins like Tls and VTRs...

I tried getting a warrant at cycletreads as they know bikes, and will know whats important and whats beurocratic shit, but wasnt happy with the exhaust test.

Whats the manner in how its done? Im pretty sure it was done in the workshop. In a building. WTF. sound reverberates and is amplified?

Anyone know somewhere I can get a warrant?

If I pay for a warrant, I expect a warrant.

Go to VTNZ parnell - The Strand. I took my MV F4 1000 with a race system (LOUD) & a 996SPS (NOT QUITE MV LOUD) with a termi race system - no drama's. passed 1st time in. :banana:

[dogsnbikes]

you will have to wait the 28days to go else wear as it will be loaded on to the system.......
I took the CB250rs with its new system and they didn't even test the noise leave which susprised me as it sounds more like an old british

[The Pastor]

dont worry

[Nibblet]

Hibiscus Coast Batteries Tyres & WOF Centre
15 Arklow Lane. Got my warrent there today. It truely took more time filling out the paper work then testing the bike. $25 and they do it outside and don't even bother hearing the bike running. Or the place next to the caltex on Kihekatia flats road in dairy flat, my old man takes his Guzzi with harley fish tail pipes (rowdy as hell) and the dude just prefers to talk about the bike while he puts a new sticker on it.

[Kickaha]

If I pay for a warrant, I expect a warrant.

You mean regardless of whether it meets the regulations or not?

[FROSTY]

you will have to wait the 28days to go else wear as it will be loaded on to the system.......

Sorry WRONG you can go somewhere else right away



You mean regardless of whether it meets the regulations or not?
Yea I thought the same thing -what you pay for is the TEST pass or fail is up to the tester

Morcs -there are actually 2 soundmeter tests but I wont go into that bit.
The important bit is that the noise test must be done in a specific way.
OUTSIDE--defined as an open area with no noise reflectve surfaces and
With background noise not exceeding a certain noise level.The meter must be set up at a set distance and angle from the exhaust.
One silly bit is that although MNZ specify an RPM the noise is tested at the LTSA dont.

[Morcs]

My VTR failed its wof too. Got standard cans put back on. Can't hear the thing now...
Thats one of the pointless things about this whole exhaust noise level thing, as you can put your stock cans on for the wof, get home and put the nice ones back on! they may as well not bother eh.


you will have to wait the 28days to go else wear as it will be loaded on to the system.......
Good to know. Cheers for that.


You mean regardless of whether it meets the regulations or not?
Within reason. I like it when issues are raised that I didnt find myself.
If its safe to ride, yes, I expect a warrant.

Ive found a place that will pass it too :)

[The Stranger]

Sorry WRONG you can go somewhere else right away



Correct. My boy's car failed on mods at one testing station and when it was pointed out that the mods were certified they wouldn't accept that they had missed the cert and still failed it. He drove to the next testing station and got the warrant - they didn't even pick up the mods or check the cert mind you.

[jimmy 2006]

ah, so your son is a boy racer? does he take after his father in his avasion of the law?

[Rodney007]

bro, your rvf is too loud but so is every sports bike with a muffler..

fu*k the 28 day thing, I failed at one place, passed at another 20 mins later... just goto where I said and youl pass, providing the rest of the bikes legit so tighten up your steering head and foot peg and youl be all good!

[Morcs]

ah, so your son is a boy racer? does he take after his father in his avasion of the law?

Mate, pm us your address, get some beers in the fridge, and we'll drop by one thursday night and have a yarn. Youll see we are actually a bunch of good coonts.

[ital916]

Apparently the can on my NC35 is too loud.

Its loud, but not outrageously loud. Its quiet compared to my Fazer, and a lot quieter than big twins like Tls and VTRs...

I tried getting a warrant at cycletreads as they know bikes, and will know whats important and whats beurocratic shit, but wasnt happy with the exhaust test.

Whats the manner in how its done? Im pretty sure it was done in the workshop. In a building. WTF. sound reverberates and is amplified?

Anyone know somewhere I can get a warrant?

If I pay for a warrant, I expect a warrant.

go to AA in glenn innes for a wof. They will use a torch to inspect the frame and test the brakes and indicators and lights. Thats bout it.

The bastard who tests the bikes though like to test the brakes by riding the bike around the center, he jumped on ma 250 a couple months ago when I was getting a wof and tested the brakes. If he tried that on my bird, he will get a swift kick up the arse.

[centaurus]

get my warrant done at ......... in pukekohe. Rode bike in........skidded to prove it had brakes. turned it off. They checked lights and mirrors and tyres, didn't start it or take it off the stand.
2 minutes.
warrant done.

Great mate! You've just painted a big target on their back. Now everybody knows (chances are, including the authorities) that they are giving WOFs too easy. Too bad you haven't posted their address too :mad:

And that's how things like this don't last. It's enough to pass one loud-mouth and all the town knows you are giving WOFs too easy (including the police) and before long you get in trouble.

[ital916]

Sorry WRONG you can go somewhere else right away



Yea I thought the same thing -what you pay for is the TEST pass or fail is up to the tester

Morcs -there are actually 2 soundmeter tests but I wont go into that bit.
The important bit is that the noise test must be done in a specific way.
OUTSIDE--defined as an open area with no noise reflectve surfaces and
With background noise not exceeding a certain noise level.The meter must be set up at a set distance and angle from the exhaust.
One silly bit is that although MNZ specify an RPM the noise is tested at the LTSA dont.

I hope they know how to use those sound level meters. Results will vary depending on whether a slow or fast response time is used, what the operational octave band and frequency range settings are. Whether it is swtiched to RMS and so on....bloody nuisance, sound level meters...and dB are a crock of shit, completey archaic and confusing as there are three different interpretations of dB.

[Morcs]

Great mate! You've just painted a big target on their back. Now everybody knows (chances are, including the authorities) that they are giving WOFs too easy. Too bad you haven't posted their address too :mad:

And that's how things like this don't last. It's enough to pass one loud-mouth and all the town knows you are giving WOFs too easy (including the police) and before long you get in trouble.

Well the original poster should edit their name out, and you should edit the name out of the quote.

[centaurus]

Well the original poster should edit their name out, and you should edit the name out of the quote.

Good point.

Done my post.

[Rodney007]

:banana: lol

[mikeey01]

As per the LVVTA standard 90-20(02)

Test site requirements
2.2(1) A test site used in the application of this standard must be an open outdoor site that:
(a) is predominantly flat, particularly within the immediate test area; and
(b) incorporates within a radius of not less than 3 metres (10 feet) from the sound level meter microphone:
(i) a space free from large sound-reflecting surfaces including buildings, walls, billboards, vehicles, trees, or shrubs; and
(ii) a solid surface such as concrete or asphalt, free of any loose or sound-absorbing material.

2.2(2)
Exhaust noise emission testing on a low volume vehicle may be carried out under a canopy, provided that no part of the canopy, including its supports, are within 3 metres (10 feet) of the sound level meter microphone.

Motorcycle engines
2.6(2)
The engine speed for the exhaust noise emission test of a motorcycle engine, must, for the duration of each test, be within a tolerance of +/- 5% of either:
(a) in the case of an engine that has a manufacturer’s engine speed maximum power (ESMP) that is known to the LVV certifier, 50% of that figure; or
(b) in the case of an engine that does not have a manufacturer’s ESMP that is known to the LVV certifier, or the manufacturer’s ESMP has become irrelevant because the engine is now outside of its original specification:
(i) 6000 RPM if the engine is a 2-stroke single-cylinder engine; or
(ii) 5000 RPM if the engine is a 2-stroke multi-cylinder engine; or
(iii) 3000 RPM if the engine is a 4-stroke single-cylinder engine; or
(iv) 2500 RPM if the engine is a 4-stroke twin-cylinder engine with 2 valves per cylinder; or
(v) 4000 RPM if the engine is a 4-stroke twin-cylinder engine with 3 or more valves per cylinder; or
(vi) 4500 RPM if the engine is a 4-stroke engine that has three or more cylinders;
or
(c) in the case where a low volume vehicle certifier believes the engine speeds specified in 2.6 (2)(b) are unreasonably high,
taking into account the type and age of the engine, he may apply an engine speed for the purpose of the sound level test at which he believes is appropriate for the engine, and at which the engine may be safely operated.

(a) in the case of a moped, 91 dBA; or
(b) in the case of a motorcycle with an engine capacity of 125 cc or less, 96 dBA; or
(c) in the case of a motorcycle with an engine capacity of more than 125 cc, 100 dBA; or
(d) in the case of an MA, MB, MC, MD1, MD2, or NA-class production vehicle that was manufactured before 1 January 1985, 95 dBA; or
(e) in the case of a scratch-built low volume vehicle of scratch-built sub-category ‘Historic Replica’, or scratch-built sub-category ‘Reproduction’ that is a replication or reproduction of a vehicle manufactured before 1 January 1985, 95 dBA; or
(f) in the case of an MA, MB, MC, MD1, MD2, or NA-class production vehicle that was manufactured on or after 1 January 1985:
(i) if first registered in New Zealand before 1 June 2008, 95 dBA; or
(ii) if first registered in New Zealand on or after 1 June 2008, 90 dBA.

[Rodney007]

woah busting out the big guns

[Gubb]

Go to VTNZ

Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

hahahahahahahaha.

hahahaha.

haha.

ha.

You just rocked my world.

[popa griffin]

Roll up chiken mesh. spray paint black. stuff down can....

Go back get warrent. Hope it doesnt blow out on the way or while there.

Go home pull out with some long plier type dohickies.

[Disco Dan]

Name and shame the shoddy places that give out dodgy WOF - we all have to use the roads !

If they dont pick up a simple noisy pipe then what else are they missing? I always take bikes/cars to VTNZ.

[bsasuper]

I have a loud can on one of my bikes. when its time for a warrant i simply bolt on the factory can, then change back, done

[FROSTY]

The bastard who tests the bikes though like to test the brakes by riding the bike around the center, he jumped on ma 250 a couple months ago when I was getting a wof and tested the brakes. If he tried that on my bird, he will get a swift kick up the arse.
Ya wanna explain that one to me please? If he ISN'T doing a brake test to ensure the bike stops then he aint doing his job.

[Gubb]

Name and shame the shoddy places that give out dodgy WOF - we all have to use the roads !

If they dont pick up a simple noisy pipe then what else are they missing? I always take bikes/cars to VTNZ.
VTNZ are more useless than the locally owned garage. Having consistancy is a foreign principle to them.See. (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1129452250#post1129452250)

[Conquiztador]

One of the new things the police will have "in the war against boy racers" is that they can now stop a vehicle and demand a re-check of WOF if they do not like what they see/hear. It was one thing I liked with NZ; that the police here did not have that power. If you had a WOF then it was legal (apart fror something obvious like no thread on tyres or something broken).

Thanks to teenagers in souped up crappy jap cars that is now gone. And it will be used against bikers to. So now there is a chance that you will have to do the muffler swap more than once every six months.

[Morcs]

Name and shame the shoddy places that give out dodgy WOF - we all have to use the roads !

If they dont pick up a simple noisy pipe then what else are they missing? I always take bikes/cars to VTNZ.

Theres a difference between 'dodgy' and 'lenient'

The type of warrant place that I like is one that wont fail you for minor things, but will still point them out and tell you the importance of getting them fixed.

Just like Roger at action wreckers
'you need a chain guard......... because ultimately you will die'

[peasea]

Theres a difference between 'dodgy' and 'lenient'



Quite right, and there's a big difference between those who have the paperwork to check your bike and a qualified motorcycle enthusiast.

I prefer the latter.

[rocketman1]

Apparently the can on my NC35 is too loud.

Its loud, but not outrageously loud. Its quiet compared to my Fazer, and a lot quieter than big twins like Tls and VTRs...

I tried getting a warrant at cycletreads as they know bikes, and will know whats important and whats beurocratic shit, but wasnt happy with the exhaust test.

Whats the manner in how its done? Im pretty sure it was done in the workshop. In a building. WTF. sound reverberates and is amplified?

Anyone know somewhere I can get a warrant?

If I pay for a warrant, I expect a warrant.

I have a SV with no baffles in the Yoshis's, yeah loud you think , but it passes the WOF at the testing station no problems, where as some of the smaller bikes dont.
My reasoning is the sound is loud and low like thunder, not a raspy high pitched sound that inline fours etc make, which push the meter over the limit.
The low resonance of the big cylinders and big pipes seems to dull the decibel meter to a lower reading.

[Pixie]

McLeod Motors in Helensville.Lou Keefe is a biker.
Does the warrants for BikeSport too.

[Pixie]

(apart fror something obvious like no thread on tyres or something broken).
.

I have thread on my tyres.You can see it through holes in the rubber

[Deano]

The limit for a bike is 100db,but unfortunately they have to fail you at 97db to allow for discrepancies.So then you have to supply proof that it is under 100db.


That's quite hilarious. With environmental noise it has to be shown by the local authority that the noisemaker is at least 3dBA over any limit, to allow for discrepancies.

No innocent until proven guilty with exhaust noise eh ? The onus is on the noisemaker to prove innocence.

I'd be interested to see what a lawyer's opinion was on this, cause it definitely isn't consistent.

[Motu]

I'd be interested to see what a lawyer's opinion was on this, cause it definitely isn't consistent.

Try it - but I doubt very much if you could make a case of it.The reason it is failed at a lower reading on the WoF ''Quick test'' is because such a test is inconsistent and not a controlled environment. If it was passed and the exhaust proved noisier than the ''Quick Test'',then the AVI would be guilty of issuing a WoF to a noisy vehicle.Someone has to take responsibility - in this case the customer.

[AllanB]

Someone has to take responsibility - in this case the customer.

Steady, that's a bit old school mate :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:


Modern practice it to BLAME everyone else.


At the end of the day if you want it LOUD and near that 100db, you pay your $150 or so to have it tested officially and get the relevant stickers for the specific pipes on the specific bike. This way you are fully documented.

[Corse1]

Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

hahahahahahahaha.

hahahaha.

haha.

ha.

You just rocked my world.


If they dont pick up a simple noisy pipe then what else are they missing? I always take bikes/cars to VTNZ.

VTNZ is a joke. "Please ride up to the light machine"
"Lights on High please"
"Handbrake please"
"Footbrake please"
"Indicator left then right please"

"Thankyou we will take it from here"

They looked at the tyres, never checked the brakes or steering, horn etc. They then turned the key on to get the mileage and that was it!!
Speed triple with Arrow race system last week.

Easy warrant but for those that do not maintain their bikes you want to be safe so the best place is a reputable motorcycle dealer :2thumbsup

That is if you have nothing to hide :angry2:

[p.dath]

If you are near Cycletreads, then try going just down the road to Action Bike Wreckors:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/wiki/Action_Bike_Wreckers

[Morcs]

If you are near Cycletreads, then try going just down the road to Action Bike Wreckors:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/wiki/Action_Bike_Wreckers

Depends on what day of the week you go down.
One day roger will fail you, the next he might pass you.
Never go at lunch otherwise he'll tell you to fuck off.

But hes a good coont and tells it how it is:
'you need a chain guard. I cant fail you for it though'
'it never had one?'
'yes it did. You should get one, otherwise you will die.'

lol

[roadracingoldfart]

Theres a difference between 'dodgy' and 'lenient'

The type of warrant place that I like is one that wont fail you for minor things, but will still point them out and tell you the importance of getting them fixed.

Just like Roger at action wreckers
'you need a chain guard......... because ultimately you will die'


I tend to agree with you about the "lenient" side of things ,
BUT
there is no such thing as interpreting either way of middle in a WOF inspection , there is simply a case of , meets the criteria and fails the criteria.
An AVI can not decide if he will be lenient and still stay on the correct side of the rules.
If he/ she does and an issue is later found he/she will be charged with the breach.
We all do it but if it comes back on us we are liable and it can be quite a nasty drop.

If you go to a certain inspector when you have a noisy pipe or any other issue you are aware of and then get failed , why do some people get miffed about it , if its in the Virm its how it has to be , we dont have to agree with it but its the rule.

Paul.

[Cr1MiNaL]

Personally I understand why Cycletreads have to be careful. But why offer WOF's in the first place when they know 10 other places out there will issue them when they won't. Personally when I go in for a WOF I want a wof not some sill reason like 'ur pipes too loud ffs'. I service my bike myself for the most part and know when and what is wrong with it so pls just give me my wof and here's 30 bucks. Think they've shot themselves in the foot a little here. Just my 2 shillings.

[MSTRS]

Think they've shot themselves in the foot a little here.

I don't think so. The issuer of a wof is the one who cops it from TANZ (or whoever) in the event a wof is deemed dodgy. Would you risk a huge part of your potential business for $30?
I have never found a wof issuer who uses a meter for the dB...just his ears...and if he reckons it's too loud, no wof. Until YOU provide proof (from a recognised LVV certifier) that your exhaust complies.

[Cr1MiNaL]

I don't think so. The issuer of a wof is the one who cops it from TANZ (or whoever) in the event a wof is deemed dodgy. Would you risk a huge part of your potential business for $30?
I have never found a wof issuer who uses a meter for the dB...just his ears...and if he reckons it's too loud, no wof. Until YOU provide proof (from a recognised LVV certifier) that your exhaust complies.

I don't agree. I see more posts on here 'against' than 'for' at this stage, not that that matters, I tend to make up my own mind. Cycletreads are a good store and I shop there regularly, but I will not be taking my bike in there for a WOF as I believe there is nothing wrong with a bike having loud pipes. Moreover, all I can think of are benefits of 'noisy' cans when riding on the road in Auckland. As a biker store they should know better than to pull fellow bikers up on things that are merely an annoyance and most of us will revert back to after the wof anyway.

[MSTRS]

...I believe there is nothing wrong with a bike having loud pipes....As do most of us. But what we believe and the law are not always in agreement. And we all know what happens when you fight the law

[Cr1MiNaL]

And we all know what happens when you fight the law

True. Although, fighting is not always the solution. A well directed 'challenge' has got me off many a ticket.

[vifferman]

I have never found a wof issuer who uses a meter for the dB...just his ears...and if he reckons it's too loud, no wof. Until YOU provide proof (from a recognised LVV certifier) that your exhaust complies.
Roger at Action Bike wreckers does have a meter (used it to demonstrate what I already knew - the VFR's engine in possibly louder than the zorst). However, like you said, AFAIK, he doesn't use it for tests, unless (presumably) he wants to verify to a pissed-off customer what his ears already told him. He's also not prepared to get into a shit fight about it, so if a guy (or gal) turns up with an obviously noisy bike, he won't even bother testing it - tells 'em to go elsewhere (as is his perogative).

[Cr1MiNaL]

Roger at Action Bike wreckers does have a meter (used it to demonstrate what I already knew - the VFR's engine in possibly louder than the zorst). However, like you said, AFAIK, he doesn't use it for tests, unless (presumably) he wants to verify to a pissed-off customer what his ears already told him. He's also not prepared to get into a shit fight about it, so if a guy (or gal) turns up with an obviously noisy bike, he won't even bother testing it - tells 'em to go elsewhere (as is his perogative).

Now that's a gr8 example of the biker comraderie I was refering to. If you know you are going to fail a bike due to it's pipes make it obvious before we swipe our cards ffs.

[YellowDog]

The cheapest and easiest solution is to have an insertable baffle made to quiet it down for the WOF and then remove it afterwwards.

[Motu]

Latest rules are that even if you have a WoF,and a Cop picks you up for excessive noise - you now have to get an objective noise test.That means going to the noise test centre,getting your bike certed for noise,and a non removable label attached.

[red mermaid]

Latest rules are that even if you have a WoF,and a Cop picks you up for excessive noise - you now have to get an objective noise test.That means going to the noise test centre,getting your bike certed for noise,and a non removable label attached.

And just to make sure you do, do this, you are likely to get a green sticker directing you to have an objective noise test.

Like it or not, the public have been up in arms about noisy vehicles, therefore the politicians have drafted rules, and are now expecting the police to use the powers they have and do something about noisy vehicles.

[Flip]

I dont know where all you folk live, but around these parts the public are pretty sick of hoons riding around at night with their nasty little jap cars with their nasty little modified exhausts going for it.

To me 97 db is lould enough espcially at night.

It's a pitty that the anti-boi racer regs are also being used against us but if it keeps a few of them off my roads I am a happy camper.

[Cr1MiNaL]

I dont know where all you folk live, but around these parts the public are pretty sick of hoons riding around at night with their nasty little jap cars with their nasty little modified exhausts going for it.

To me 97 db is lould enough espcially at night.

It's a pitty that the anti-boi racer regs are also being used against us but if it keeps a few of them off my roads I am a happy camper.

Says the guy with the Road king... zzzz

[red mermaid]

I've never been to the States, but I have being told that over there HD are quiet as, and straight pipes are not seen or allowed.

Can anyone who has being there confirm this?

[PeeJay]

I don't agree. I see more posts on here 'against' than 'for' at this stage, not that that matters, I tend to make up my own mind. Cycletreads are a good store and I shop there regularly, but I will not be taking my bike in there for a WOF as I believe there is nothing wrong with a bike having loud pipes. Moreover, all I can think of are benefits of 'noisy' cans when riding on the road in Auckland. As a biker store they should know better than to pull fellow bikers up on things that are merely an annoyance and most of us will revert back to after the wof anyway.

Heres an idea, why dont you get your warrant issuers certificate and then we could all get our warrants from you. no need to inspect the bike, we can pay by internet banking and you can just post it out.
Now that will show all those anal pricks who know nothing about bikes picking on trivial things to fail our bikes on.

[Cr1MiNaL]

Heres an idea, why dont you get your warrant issuers certificate and then we could all get our warrants from you. no need to inspect the bike, we can pay by internet banking and you can just post it out.
Now that will show all those anal pricks who know nothing about bikes picking on trivial things to fail our bikes on.

Na too much trouble. I just want to point the finger. You got a problem with that scooter boy?

[sAsLEX]

I tend to agree with you about the "lenient" side of things ,
BUT
there is no such thing as interpreting either way of middle in a WOF inspection , there is simply a case of , meets the criteria and fails the criteria.

I have no method of carrying a pillion passenger, I have no rear seat, yet I was made to re-install my rear pilllion footpegs prior to receiving a warrant.

There is some discretion in the rules.



I have never found a wof issuer who uses a meter for the dB...just his ears...and if he reckons it's too loud, no wof. Until YOU provide proof (from a recognised LVV certifier) that your exhaust complies.

Treads did.




Latest rules are that even if you have a WoF,and a Cop picks you up for excessive noise - you now have to get an objective noise test.That means going to the noise test centre,getting your bike certed for noise,and a non removable label attached.

An objective test conducted under dubious conditions and procedures not following any prescribed standards at that.

Funny how the 1976 Traffic Regulations has set standards and levels for noise testing just they weren't enforced and instead we have a poorly written and knee jerk influenced boy racer law....





Like it or not, the public have been up in arms about noisy vehicles, therefore the politicians have drafted rules, and are now expecting the police to use the powers they have and do something about noisy vehicles.

As above, the rules were already in place in 1976, politicians are stupid and need to make a big deal or recreating the wheel to appear to be doing something when introducing this new square wheel to replace the round one in place might not have been the best idea!

[red mermaid]

The Traffic Regs 1976 were mostly repealed about 10 years ago and weren't written to deal with the situations of the present day so new rules are been written and introduced constantly.

There is also a prescribed method for an objective test and it has to be carried out by a low volume vehicle certifier, so it is not dubious.

[Motu]

An objective test conducted under dubious conditions and procedures not following any prescribed standards at that.


You are thinking of the subjective noise test,which requires no meter,just the the tester to say,''I think that's too loud''.Using a meter is just to give visual proof that it's noisier than a stock system.

[PeeJay]

Na too much trouble. I just want to point the finger. You got a problem with that scooter boy?
You can point your finger all you like. We are after all in NZ, land of fingerpointers..

[Cr1MiNaL]

You can point your finger all you like. We are after all in NZ, land of fingerpointers..

Not bad for 42 posts, you didn't bite. Well done. Bling coming your way.

[sAsLEX]

The Traffic Regs 1976 were mostly repealed about 10 years ago and weren't written to deal with the situations of the present day so new rules are been written and introduced constantly.

There is also a prescribed method for an objective test and it has to be carried out by a low volume vehicle certifier, so it is not dubious.

The loud vehicles? That have the same limit as what was prescribed in the old law?

Which recognised standard of vehicle sound level testing does this test follow?


You are thinking of the subjective noise test,which requires no meter,just the the tester to say,''I think that's too loud''.Using a meter is just to give visual proof that it's noisier than a stock system.

I am not. The old law specified a BS to follow to test the volume of vehicle. They made one up for the new law.


The First Schedule states "when measured in accordance with test methods laid down in British Standard 3425 or in ISO 362 the maximum permitted noise level shall be-"
rah de rah....

[Motu]

They made one up for the new law.

Oh,so you want to use the old laws? That'd be nice,I would too...unfortunatly we have to go with what laws are in place now.