Long weekend coming up. PLEASE don't fuck up

[Ixion]

OK?

Right now, a long weekend of bike crashes is the very last thing we need,

Keep it upright, take it easy. DON'T FUCK UP.

If you kill yourself, we'll collectively give your ghost the bash. OK.

[scissorhands]

The Bikeoi too, not a good look.

Ride safe.

[Katman]

This thread needs to be somewhere that has greater exposure.

Get it moved to GBR.

[StoneY]

As he said
Need as many LIVE bikers as possible next month, keep the carnage down peoples have a great labour day

[Ixion]

Without wishing to be unduely cardigan, this



The TMF will be out in force! Watch out nubs we will own ya LOL


sort of thing , form another thread, we do NOT want right now.

[sunhuntin]

good point. i truly hope we can get to tuesday [or whenever the weekend road toll cuts out] without a single biker death.

[Ixion]

Or injury !

In fact NO BINS AT ALL. Ok?

[Katman]

Why is this thread in Biker Politics & Law?

Put it were it will be seen, for fucks sake.

[James Deuce]

I'm confined to quarters, so my ACC claim will come out of the $610 million we're allowed to spend.

[merv]

I leave the weekend in the hands of the TMF, I'm off to Sydney.

p.s. how come it is the "few" did the "many" perish before I knew about the TMF?

[Kiwi Graham]

Good call Les.
If there is ever a time to be on our game its now. TMF keep it sunny side up and all the rest take it easy!

[Ixion]

I leave the weekend in the hands of the TMF, I'm off to Sydney.

p.s. how come it is the "few" did the "many" perish before I knew about the TMF?

Matthew 22:14 I assume.

[davebullet]

Since some people don't care about their lives... think of your money! The excess on insurance, cost of pubic transport if you don't have your bike whilst being fixed and if license fees go up and all... you cannot AFFORD to bin!

[Katman]

........is motorcycle carnage this weekend.

Please everyone remember that the media spotlight is on us.

[Laxi]

it sounded better when ixion said it:lol:

[Ronin]

This thread needs to be somewhere that has greater exposure.

Get it moved to GBR.

Tell you what, you toodle off to GBR, if we are not there in 5 minutes, start without us.

[Katman]

it sounded better when ixion said it:lol:

It may well have - but how many bother to look in Biker Politics & Law?

[Ronin]

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[Pussy]

........is motorcycle carnage this weekend.

Please everyone remember that the media spotlight is on us.

Good call, Steve

[R6_kid]

I won't be partaking in any motorcycle carnage this weekend. My bike has no front end until Tuesday.

[PrincessBandit]

I probably won't be partaking in any riding either....the outlaws are staying at the mo....

And it's a good call, regardless of who is saying it.

[James Deuce]

I won't be partaking in any motorcycle carnage this weekend. My bike has no front end until Tuesday.

Remember: It's impossible to wheelie a unicycle.

[AllanB]

A timely and valid comment Katman.

Just imagine the headlines if 2-3 bikers die ..........

[Kiwi Graham]

Bobbing about in my boat with the whanau this weekend. Fully paid up with the coastguard in case ya wondering ;)

Wonder wher you got the idea for this thread from :lol: Well said all the same.

[paturoa]

Taking the spawn and Mrs P off for a dirty weekend. Not a road registerred bike amongst them (x4).

If we have an ACC claim, I make sure its against rugby or such like, and not m'cycles!

[AllanB]

Bobbing about in my boat with the whanau this weekend. Fully paid up with the coastguard in case ya wondering ;)

Are boats registered?

Boat trailers are, but are the boats?

Should be ...... plenty of boating accidents......... 3 dead this week.........:weep:

[Kiwi Graham]

Are boats registered?

Boat trailers are, but are the boats?

Should be ...... plenty of boating accidents......... 3 dead this week.........:weep:

No there not!

People are that obtain qualifications and a VHF license. Both myself and my wife studied and got boatmaster qualifications and a VHF license through the coastguard, but there are plenty out on the water with nothing more than chlly bin to their name.

[AllanB]

No there not!...

Thanks - interesting in light of the motorcycle ACC situation. Someone tell BRONZ to add boats to the list.

[Mully]

Thanks - interesting in light of the motorcycle ACC situation. Someone tell BRONZ to add boats to the list.

That was part of the argument for putting the levy on petrol.....

Good call Katman. Keep it safe people.

[ready4whatever]

yeah and everybody who watches the news will be shaking their head and agreeing with nick smith if they see us acting like hoons

[taff1954]

Too true Katman

Spotted a fair few bikes rolling into New Plymouth this evening - everyone well geared up, taking it easy through the crappy road works on the northern entry to the city. They were a good advert for the way we all need to ride, especially now with the public eye starting to become so focused on bikers.

Keep it safe out there this weekend folks - and every other day as well.

[avgas]

And if your going to do it. Do it properly - last thing we need is more ACC claims cos they can fix you.
The squids know who I'm talking to - make Darwin proud

[mynameis]

........is motorcycle carnage this weekend.

Please everyone remember that the media spotlight is on us.

Well there's probably going to be one or two somewhere.

More so there'll be shit loads of pigs around!

[caseye]

A timely reminder.
Weather looks great for Saterday and Sunday, enjoy yourselves out there everyone and remember ride smart, ride safe.

[MadDuck]

A timely reminder.
Weather looks great for Saterday and Sunday, enjoy yourselves out there everyone and remember ride smart, ride safe.

For goodness sake! We dont go out riding to fall off and kill ourselves and a thread on KB isnt going to change anything.

[Mikkel]

Well, let's just say I hope they have swept the grit of the roads through Arthur's and Lewis passes. Greymouth is where it's at this weekend.

[Gremlin]

The excess on insurance, cost of pubic transport if you don't have your bike whilst being fixed and if license fees go up and all... you cannot AFFORD to bin!
Thats why I always have a 2nd bike handy to ride... or steal a loner from the shop :lol:

Tis OK, I did about 2500km last weekend, died twice, so I should be ok for this weekend... I can only do 300 odd km, as its almost up to service interval.

[dipshit]

Yep, the last thing we need in Tuesday morning papers is the usual - "6 dead on the roads over the weekend, 3 of which were motorcyclists"

[Gremlin]

Well, I made it back from another 320km ish without dying a single time!!

I've heard others died 3 times last weekend, so I'm obviously not trying hard enough :confused:

[AD345]

yeah and everybody who watches the news will be shaking their head and agreeing with nick smith if they see us acting like hoons

I hoon, therefore I am

[Laxi]

went for a ride over the paikak hill today, loads of bikes cause the rimutakas were closed, not a single rider in the usual, hunched over attack position, now if acc could just do somthing about the bunch of cyclists riding 3 across, and the 2 boy racer fuck heads on the wrong side of the road:no:

[bones135]

Well i rode to whakatane yesterday to visit my son & family & rode back today. Heaps of bikes on the way & did not see any acting stupidly, was awesome riding weather too, hope everyone had as much fun as i did :ride:

[gijoe1313]

Over the start of these long weekends, I tend to avoid riding where there are many vehicles herding in long packs, strung along like the entrails of a leviathan, heading towards its doom ...

Heck, yesterday, I didn't even get on my bike(s)! :o :dodge: Today, I drove and was carted around in a cage! :pinch:

But, now, tonight with a lot of the mad motorbike munching vehicles ensconced in their caves or tethered up for the night, I shall don my red ninja pajamas and go for a wee bit of a tootle somewhere! :msn-wink:

Gotta luv'them horrordays where the melding of machine and flesh all take on a ghastly theme when they combine in ways not intended :no:

Ride safe, be safe out there peeps (and yes, mr gijoe1313 does intend to take mucho care himself).

[PrincessBandit]

Managed to do the Maraetai/Whitford loop this afternoon. Lots of bikes out and about. Only one incident where I worried RipperRoo would follow the example of one rider who passed all three of us plus a cue of cars plodding along the open road at an annoyingly slow 80kph. (In a windy stretch between Maraetai and Clevedon) Thankfully he decided it probably wasn't such a good idea with his mother and father riding behind him, assessing what he was doing. He did admit that if he'd been on his own he probably would have. Reminded him again that staying safe and alive is much more important than risking dodgy overtakes. The lesson being that patience can save your life and sometimes has to be a motorcyclists friend.

[Katman]

He did admit that if he'd been on his own he probably would have. Reminded him again that staying safe and alive is much more important than risking dodgy overtakes.

Did you remind him who is uncle is?

[200BUSA]

And how many road deaths this weekend were bikers?

[Tink]

Managed to do the Maraetai/Whitford loop this afternoon. Lots of bikes out and about. Only one incident where I worried RipperRoo would follow the example of one rider who passed all three of us plus a cue of cars plodding along the open road at an annoyingly slow 80kph. (In a windy stretch between Maraetai and Clevedon) Thankfully he decided it probably wasn't such a good idea with his mother and father riding behind him, assessing what he was doing. He did admit that if he'd been on his own he probably would have. Reminded him again that staying safe and alive is much more important than risking dodgy overtakes. The lesson being that patience can save your life and sometimes has to be a motorcyclists friend.

good on you mum!!!


On a finer note.. surely ACC and those that be... are making bikers more aware to cages by the new levies....

the weekend is not over, and already one cage has put a biker and a child in hospital... www.xtra.co.nz tonight... my thoughts with them both!

Stay safe tomorrow... as its forecast for thunder storms...

[PrincessBandit]

Did you remind him who is uncle is?

I think I might continue to ride with him and discuss our rides encouraging good riding habits and risk assessment. (Plus reminding him that he can't power himself out of trouble on a ginny compared to the litre bike setting the tempting example he saw today).

[howdamnhard]

So far so good , despite the wonderful condition of some of our roads I encountered. But then there is still tomorrow,maybe I should take the cage.:eek:

[caseye]

Managed to do the Maraetai/Whitford loop this afternoon. Lots of bikes out and about. Only one incident where I worried RipperRoo would follow the example of one rider who passed all three of us plus a cue of cars plodding along the open road at an annoyingly slow 80kph. (In a windy stretch between Maraetai and Clevedon) Thankfully he decided it probably wasn't such a good idea with his mother and father riding behind him, assessing what he was doing. He did admit that if he'd been on his own he probably would have. Reminded him again that staying safe and alive is much more important than risking dodgy overtakes. The lesson being that patience can save your life and sometimes has to be a motorcyclists friend.

And did you remind him that someone else might miss his sorry arse if he did!
On ya guys.

[ready4whatever]

I've seen heaps of bikes out this weekend the weather was awesome today. Spent it out at sea though. Cant wait until i get a damn job and my new bike. This summers gonna be a beauty

[mynameis]

And how many road deaths this weekend were bikers?

1 in critical condition after a head on collision near Huntly on SH 1 today.

[NighthawkNZ]

1 in critical condition after a head on collision near Huntly on SH 1 today.



http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/6386185/huntly-traffic-moving-again/
Early indications from a Serious crash Unit analysis are that a southbound car intending to turn across the highway was shunted in the rear, forcing it into the path of a northbound motorbike.

sounds like a tailgater... but they are not dangerous according to a few on here

[mynameis]

sounds like a tailgater... but they are not dangerous according to a few on here

Yeaah..unfortunate though.

[NighthawkNZ]

Yeaah..unfortunate though.

unfortunately yes...

[rainman]

A motorcyclist died near Greymouth yesterday after crashing into a bridge on State Highway 6 at Coal Creek.

The rider was travelling with a group of friends and speed may have been a contributing factor, police said.


Not a completely flawless weekend, sadly.

[mynameis]

unfortunately yes...

Another one :

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10605480

[ukusa]

Not a completely flawless weekend, sadly.

lots of bikes around for the Greymouth street races, sounds like may have been a group ride heading there/coming home.
Sad

[ital916]

It was a bad weekend for car drivers too, too many fatalities all around. :no:

[Cheshire Cat]

My bad luck started before the weekend!! TYPICAL!!! Bloody murphy eh.

[nothingflash]

went for a ride over the paikak hill today, loads of bikes cause the rimutakas were closed, not a single rider in the usual, hunched over attack position, now if acc could just do somthing about the bunch of cyclists riding 3 across, and the 2 boy racer fuck heads on the wrong side of the road:no:

Yeah mate we went over there yesterday too...a group of about 15 cyclists about 3-4 wide taking up the whole lane coming towards us not giving a fuck what was behind them...

[Cheshire Cat]

Yeah mate we went over there yesterday too...a group of about 15 cyclists about 3-4 wide taking up the whole lane coming towards us not giving a fuck what was behind them...

They should harden the fuck up and have to pay rego as well. just as much as all the other 2wheels on the road.:2guns:

[Laxi]

Yeah mate we went over there yesterday too...a group of about 15 cyclists about 3-4 wide taking up the whole lane coming towards us not giving a fuck what was behind them...

you just feel like giving 1 a slap on the back of the head as ya ride past dont ya? :rofl:

[McJim]

Yeah mate we went over there yesterday too...a group of about 15 cyclists about 3-4 wide taking up the whole lane coming towards us not giving a fuck what was behind them...

And why should they? It should be the responsibility of the driver behind to see what's in front of him/her. Oh sorry that's right you fellas have a whole set of rules drafted out for other road users that simply don't apply to you.

you're on motorcycles so should be forgiven all your misdemeanours.

Fucken hypocrite.

[nothingflash]

you just feel like giving 1 a slap on the back of the head as ya ride past dont ya? :rofl:

Yeah or grab one by the back of the seat and pull him along at 100k :laugh:

[nothingflash]

And why should they? It should be the responsibility of the driver behind to see what's in front of him/her. Oh sorry that's right you fellas have a whole set of rules drafted out for other road users that simply don't apply to you.

you're on motorcycles so should be forgiven all your misdemeanours.

Fucken hypocrite.

WTF? These guys chose to ride 3-4 wide (taking up a whole lane) with vehicles behind them clad only in lycra moving maybe 20kph in an 80kph area and on blind corners (when we came across them).

It is not a matter of rules - I would have thought it comes down to common sense - clearly some of them don't give that too much thought and it would seem neither do you when you feel it necessary to reply to a post.

:tugger:

[Drogen Omen]

Motorcyclist dies after crash.

well so much for an accident free long weekend...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10605480&ref=rss

[Laxi]

And why should they? It should be the responsibility of the driver behind to see what's in front of him/her. Oh sorry that's right you fellas have a whole set of rules drafted out for other road users that simply don't apply to you.

you're on motorcycles so should be forgiven all your misdemeanours.

Fucken hypocrite.

before you spout of calling people names McJim, read your road code, think you'll find a set of "road rules drafted out for" all road users, 1 of them is that bikes (moto included) can only ride single file, think they did this for safety:blink:

[chasio]

before you spout of calling people names McJim, read your road code, think you'll find a set of "road rules drafted out for" all road users, 1 of them is that bikes (moto included) can only ride single file, think they did this for safety:blink:

A bit O/T but that's a common misconception. Cyclists are permitted to ride two abreast as long as they are not passing any other vehicles, moving or parked. Sadly the law is taken to the point of common sense failure and many ride side-by-side on narrow, windy or otherrwise inappropriate bits of road, which is plainly stupid. 3-4 abreast is clearly not allowed and cyclists know it.

I suspect a 'safety in numbers' mentality applies though. If they feel like everyone is out to get them, they'll pack up as it feels safer, even though it is probably putting everyone in greater danger due to driver/biker obstruction and frustration. Slapping them on the head, grabbing a seat or blaring a horn as you pass (or running them off the road in a ute) only increases the feeling of vulnerability, and in my view encourages packing in many cyclists. It's a vicious circle.

Yes, I do ride a treadlie as well. I try to do it considerately.

[caseye]

A bit O/T but that's a common misconception. Cyclists are permitted to ride two abreast as long as they are not passing any other vehicles, moving or parked. Sadly the law is taken to the point of common sense failure and many ride side-by-side on narrow, windy or otherrwise inappropriate bits of road, which is plainly stupid. 3-4 abreast is clearly not allowed and cyclists know it.

I suspect a 'safety in numbers' mentality applies though. If they feel like everyone is out to get them, they'll pack up as it feels safer, even though it is probably putting everyone in greater danger due to driver/biker obstruction and frustration. Slapping them on the head, grabbing a seat or blaring a horn as you pass (or running them off the road in a ute) only increases the feeling of vulnerability, and in my view encourages packing in many cyclists. It's a vicious circle.

Yes, I do ride a treadlie as well. I try to do it considerately.

Good for you, at least thats one person on a bicycle I can rely on to move over.
While I sympathise with the many bicyclists who ride appropriately, I am finding more and more groups of em bunched exactly as you've said.
Of course they're just around the blind bend in the dip and they're moving at snails pace.
One has to slow right down and wait for an opportunity to safely pass them, I even don't mind that so much, it's the bloody mindedness of them as a bunch who wave the one finger and express their displeasure at being disturbed on "their road" that really grates with me.

[chasio]

Indeed you can rely on me to pull over and to shout up to the bunch as well, like many others... Of course there are cocks everywhere and I try not to ride with them. The most dangerous cyclists :2guns: are the ones who are mainly used to driving cages, in my wildly generalised opinion!

[avgas]

A bit O/T but that's a common misconception. Cyclists are permitted to ride two abreast as long as they are not passing any other vehicles, moving or parked.
Yes and no, they cant take 1 law and miss out the others - thats why they are laws...
from the LTSA website:
Safety rules for cyclists

* Cyclists must wear an approved safety helmet. Always fasten it securely, by following the manufacturer's instructions.
* It's a good idea to wear brightly coloured or reflective clothing when cycling. That way you'll be easier to see.
* Don't ride your bicycle on a footpath unless you are delivering newspapers, mail or leaflets, or there is a sign indicating it is a shared pedestrian and cycle path.
* At intersections, you must:
o follow the rules for motor vehicles, or
o get off your cycle and walk across.
* You can only ride alongside another cyclist or moped. You must not ride alongside a car, truck or other motor vehicle.
* Always ride in single file if passing another vehicle.
* Your cycle must not be towed by another vehicle.
* Your cycle can only tow a trailer (one designed to be towed by a cycle) and must not be fitted with a sidecar.
* You must not carry a pillion passenger on your cycle unless you have a pillion seat and footrest. If you are carrying a child, the pillion seat must protect the child's legs from the wheels.
* You must not leave a cycle blocking a footpath.
* Where there is an adequate cycle path or cycle lane, cyclists should use it.
* You must ride with lights on when it is dark (from 30 minutes after sunset until 30 minutes before sunrise).
* You must keep your cycle in good working condition.

Hand signals for cyclists

You must give a hand signal at least three seconds before stopping or turning.

Always check to make sure your hand signals have been seen and understood.

Look well behind you to make sure there is room for you to turn, pull out or pass safely.
I used to ride on the road - but it is far to dangerous these days. Thanks to other wanker cyclists out there - some drivers have a chip on their shoulder.
I personally think the 2 abreast rule is bullshit - its needs to be staggered formation.

[Morcs]

Didnt touch the bikes all weekend.

Worst time of the year for riding. dunno why you all bother.

[LBD]

And why should they? It should be the responsibility of the driver behind to see what's in front of him/her. Oh sorry that's right you fellas have a whole set of rules drafted out for other road users that simply don't apply to you.

you're on motorcycles so should be forgiven all your misdemeanours.

Fucken hypocrite.

I hope thats a spot of Southern Sarcasm creaping in between your words there young Jim

[modboy]

before you spout of calling people names McJim, read your road code, think you'll find a set of "road rules drafted out for" all road users, 1 of them is that bikes (moto included) can only ride single file, think they did this for safety:blink:

Incorrect.

Go read the road code - clearly states cyclists may ride 2 abreast.

Good call McJim, +1

But then, motorcyclists never do anything stupid or irresponsible, let alone anything that annoys any other road user - do we guys - so we got the right to bitch about everyone else.

[NighthawkNZ]

I have nothing against cyclists being on the road, (even though McJim thinks I do) and I have nothing against them being 2 a breast if the conditions are right...

I have seen them 3 or 4 a breast taking up a whole lane with a flow of on coming traffic... making it very difficult and dangerous for all parties... if they are two a breast and the conditions are good for them to do so... I have no issue...

But 4 abreast and not moving over taking the whole lane not allowing traffic behind you to pass becasue they don't move over or even go to 2 abreast or single file to allow the backed up traffic to pass... well thats another story

Just like motorcyclists need to respected other vehicles (All including cyclists) on the road, so do cyclists themselves... We all use it together so we need a little bit of respect for each other. Just like motorcyclists there is a minority that gives them all a bad name

[Tink]

WTF? These guys chose to ride 3-4 wide (taking up a whole lane) with vehicles behind them clad only in lycra moving maybe 20kph in an 80kph area and on blind corners (when we came across them).

It is not a matter of rules - I would have thought it comes down to common sense - clearly some of them don't give that too much thought and it would seem neither do you when you feel it necessary to reply to a post.

:tugger:

I might just have to bling ya Mr flash... example: Motorbike riding over bridge smacks into car going slower...(it happened)... guy on bike broke his leg... whose fault is it... relevant to cyclists who actually go a lot slower... same as blind bend, having rode a bike I would never ride 2 abreast unless it was a straight (dead straight) even surfaced road.

Maybe we need cycle lanes after all.. which are paid for buy the cyclists... you ride a bike on a public road (theory) of at speed (not a child), then you pay something... its such a hard world we live in... maybe courtesy is the strength of the argument not who is right or wrong.:hug:

[crazyhorse]

They should harden the fuck up and have to pay rego as well. just as much as all the other 2wheels on the road.:2guns:

I agree with that one.

I really am not sure why we cover so many other people on our registration costs.................... :calm:

[avgas]

I have nothing against cyclists being on the road
Thats nice of you. Thanks to ACC - I DO.
I dislike the following from now:
- Cyclist on the road
- Divers who swim with sharks
- Bungie Jumpers
- Body Builders
- Triathetes
- Rugby Players
- Netball Players
- People who cant handle knives properly
- Unskilled riders/drivers
- Cricket players......

Because thanks to you wankers I am looking at paying more for ACC. I do not perform these tasks personally - but thanks to you not paying for them, I have to pick up the slack.:angry2: