Am I out of line for asking people to remove their helmets?

[Sparky Bills]

We have had a few issues with people walking through the shop wearing their helmets lately.
I still find it extremely rude when people walk up to you and try to talk to you while still wearing their helmet.
Specially if they wear balaclavas under them as some are very hard to understand talking through a muffled peice of cloth.

I have asked a number of people to please remove their helmets while in the shop. Not only to be polite, but also so we know who is in the shop at certain times.

This has been met with a number of different reactions.
Most of which make me feel like i have just sworn at their mothers.

So a question i have is Am i out of line for asking them to remove their lid while in the shop?

Regardless of the reaction I get on here, I will continue to ask people to remove their helmets when they are in the shop. Just wanted to know how others view this topic.

[riffer]

Sell more Shoei Multitecs Martin.

Problem solved.

[DevoDave]

Bill, completely in order, I support you all the way.

[Rockbuddy]

what sort of shop?? any shop other than a gass station no your not out of line

[st00ji]

do you not have to remove your helmet at gas stations anymore?

i hate getting gas just for the fact of having to go through the gloves helmet BS one extra time before i get home

(still beats filling up a car though)

[AllanB]

Is it a bike shop?

I always remove my helmet when entering any form of shop. As you have stated it is just good manners, plus there is the hearing issue.

If there is any agro I suggest you state, "my hearing is a bit dogey and your voice was muffled and unclear through the helmet".

And in a shop it is surely a security issue for you and your staff - bloke with helmet on "buys" a $5 part then punches you while the till is open .....

[Rockbuddy]

do you not have to remove your helmet at gas stations anymore?

i hate getting gas just for the fact of having to go through the gloves helmet BS one extra time before i get home

(still beats filling up a car though)

ive never removed my helmet at gas stations nor have i ever been asked to

[cs363]

So a question i have is Am i out of line for asking them to remove their lid while in the shop?


Simple answer - no. It's rude to wear your helmet into a shop (gas stations excepted), unless perhaps you're Joseph Merrick.

[Hans]

Simple answer - no. It's rude to wear your helmet into a shop (gas stations excepted), unless perhaps you're Joseph Merrick.

What he said.

[Trudes]

Totally in line I'd say. To me it's like guys who wear a hat at the dinner table (yes Ronin, and socks during sex),(OK, maybe I'm a bit old fashioned when it comes to manners), it's rude, and if you want people to understand what you're saying, take the helmet off.

[Virago]

I recall reading on here about a bike shop sales guy who, when in this situation, would chuck a helmet on and mumble back at the customer...

[sunhuntin]

totally in line. i remove my lid as soon as im off the bike, except for gas stations [unless im making an extended stop like having something to eat] maybe get a sign and stick it in the front window or door.

[Owl]

Not at all Sparky, but I think it's bloody rude to be asked if you could "Please put your helmet back on"!:weep:

[Murray]

As long as they wave at you it doesnt really matter

[Devil]

It's completely rude to wear a helmet inside, that INCLUDES gas stations.
Doesn't matter where you are, same rule applies with hats and for me, sunglasses. The latter also when talking to someone more formally.

[James Deuce]

Give them hell mate. Their mums obviously didn't.

[Zuki lover]

NO not at all ... I take mine off every time....................:done:

[martybabe]

I don't see a problem with it if you ask politely.

Personally I always remove mine, no bugger understands me when I'm speaking normally and they can read my lips so a helmet just adds to the communication problem.

Might be a bit different if someone told me to remove my helmet in a gas station though, not sure how I'd react to that.

[Jantar]

You are quite in order to request that helmets be removed, along with balaclavas, burqas, etc. You should always be able to identify who you are dealing with.

[nosebleed]

Why on earth would someone want to browse through a shop with their helmet on??

For getting gas it's understandable, we're only there for a few minutes so it's not worth it, but actually shopping? Mental.

[Ms Piggy]

So a question i have is Am i out of line for asking them to remove their lid while in the shop?
I don't think you're out of line at all. There are several valid and reasonable reasons for asking someone to take off their lid relating to both practicality and safety.

I honestly can't understand why someone would want to keep their helmet on inside a shop and then try and hold a conversation!???

[Pussy]

Not out of line at all, Martin.
It's simple good manners to remove your helmet, and it shouldn't have to be asked for

[James Deuce]

I honestly can't understand why someone would want to keep their helmet on inside a shop and then try and hold a conversation!???

I can. It's mostly to do with them being a self-involved adolescent dick.

[AllanB]

Plus - you cannot blow on your pie with a helmet on - safer communities together.

[Ms Piggy]

I can. It's mostly to do with them being a self-involved adolescent dick.

Awwww yeah....too true.

[cs363]

Why on earth would someone want to browse through a shop with their helmet on??

For getting gas it's understandable, we're only there for a few minutes so it's not worth it, but actually shopping? Mental.

Even at gas stations I usually take my helmet off, though if it's pissing with rain or freezing cold and I'm on a mission to get somewhere, I'll sometimes make an exception to this rule. After all, in this situation you are the one filling the bike (in most cases) and then just walking in and handing over the dosh, so you barely need to speak).


Not out of line at all, Martin.
It's simple good manners to remove your helmet, and it shouldn't have to be asked for

Pretty sure they'd ask you to put it back on..... :bleh:

[MIXONE]

i keep mine on because my face would scare away all your customers.

[Pussy]

Pretty sure they'd ask you to put it back on..... :bleh:

I heard when you were born, they slapped your mother!

[McJim]

Anyone rude enough not to remove their helmet when entering a shop or a building is just a badly educated fuckwit.

I often comment to petrol station workers that they should provide a better place for bike helmets as many pumps are designed without sufficient flat space to park your lid.

If someone can't be bothered removing their helmet I wouldn't bother acknowledging their question.

[cs363]

i keep mine on because my face would scare away all your customers.

Are you Pussy's twin brother? :whistle:


I heard when you were born, they slapped your mother!

Hearsay evidence is not admissible. :finger: :laugh:

[george formby]

It's just basic manners innit! Precisely why I like my flip face hemlet, I can pop into the garage & still look vaguely human.

[Headbanger]

Anyone rude enough not to remove their helmet when entering a shop or a building is just a badly educated fuckwit.

I often comment to petrol station workers that they should provide a better place for bike helmets as many pumps are desuigned without sufficient flat space to park your lid.

If someone can't be bothered removing their helmet I wouldn't bother acknowledging their question.

Sorted.Close the thread:done::done::done:

[ajturbo]

do you not have to remove your helmet at gas stations anymore?

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i have NEVER removed my helmet to just fill up with gas...

no-one has ever asked me too..

if they did, i would ask them if they wanted my money or not..?:2guns:

[Headbanger]

if they did, i would ask them if they wanted my money or not..?:2guns:


If I were a servo worker I'd say no, Don't want your money, Give us back our gas and rack off.....:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Owl]

If I were a servo worker I'd say no, Don't want your money, Give us back our gas and rack off.....:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Guess you don't work in a servo then!:laugh:

[2wheeled Gasman]

I agree with AJ.
If they want to remove your helmet before going into a servo they should put a sign up at price signage pole.Then at least you have a choice at which servo to gas up at, that way no one gets upset. Or serve you from the after hours window.
But I'm all for helmets off when at the shops looking round for general stuff:confused:

[vifferman]

No, you're not out of line.
I leave mine on at the service station, but that's solely because:
- It's just a very quick visit (usually less than 2 minutes inside), with little communication required
- The guy at the service station I go to doesn't mind (I asked, and he said no bikers take their helmets off, and he doesn't care)
- There's no need for any face-to-face interaction, if you get what I mean.

At banks, or malls, or shops where I'm browsing, I ALWAYS take my helmet off. When I buy bus tickets for my wife, I leave it on - same deal as the service station: it's always the same shop, they know me, it's a quick transaction.

[Headbanger]

Guess you don't work in a servo then!:laugh:

If I did I'd imagine there would be numerous threads here on KB about that fuckwit working at the servo.....

[duckonin]

If I were a servo worker I'd say no, Don't want your money, Give us back our gas and rack off.....:laugh::laugh::laugh:

In a case such as, I would keep my money and drive off anyway, I did offer to pay so it is not a drive off, other than that YOU can come out and serve your petrol into my bike,then bring back my change...As I always pay in cash. I don't use one of them time wasting cards,like to be personal when handling my money that way I know how much I have left.

[Headbanger]

In a case such as, I would keep my money and drive off anyway, I did offer to pay so it is not a drive off, other than that YOU can come out and serve your petrol into my bike,then bring back my change...As I always pay in cash. I don't use one of them time wasting cards,like to be personal when handling my money that way I know how much I have left.

I remember visibly upsetting a servo attendant many years ago when I wouldn't let him fill up my bike.

I guess he got all his self-worth from the only menial task he was capable of doing, and was crushed when some bastard turned up and refused to let him use his one and only skill.


And gong back to your post....You would drive off?

Why would you have had a helmet on in your car? Looking to rob the place?

Think I'd lock the door to the servo and call the cops if some mad bastard was sitting in their car on the forecourt wearing a helmet.

[jackie]

In a case such as, I would keep my money and drive off anyway, I did offer to pay so it is not a drive off,

Swap petrol for a television and you'll find it doesn't quite work like that.

[wickle]

In a case such as, I would keep my money and drive off anyway, I did offer to pay so it is not a drive off, other than that YOU can come out and serve your petrol into my bike,then bring back my change...As I always pay in cash. I don't use one of them time wasting cards,like to be personal when handling my money that way I know how much I have left.
To leave without paying is theft!

[Laxi]

farrk! not this crap again:brick:
edit: lets see here.... search "remove helmet"...... 1st 3 pages hmmm
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=99461&highlight=remove+helmet
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=94582&highlight=remove+helmet
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=91368&highlight=remove+helmet

[dipshit]

So a question i have is Am i out of line for asking them to remove their lid while in the shop?

Not at all.

The trouble is a lot of motorcyclists have shit for brains.

[Ixion]

No. Provided you provide some place for people to put them.

It can be very difficult trying to 'browse' in a shop holding a helmet.

You either struggle to do things one handed (try putting clothes back on a hanger with one hand!); or put the helmet on the floor which can be a pain if you are moving steadily along a rack or show case etc. And then someone usually seems to lick it or fall over it.

Provide a shelf for helmets , with a sign. Point it out and ask folk to remove them.

[Clivoris]

Nothing wrong with asking man.

[Sparky Bills]

Its a motorbike shop.
Thanks for the support people.
Beware people if you wear your lids inside. I shoot to kill :2guns:

[Swoop]

Plus - you cannot blow on your pie with a helmet on - safer communities together.
Open face helmets???

[bezajel]

Why on earth would someone want to browse through a shop with their helmet on??

For getting gas it's understandable, we're only there for a few minutes so it's not worth it, but actually shopping? Mental.

Ditto to this. I always feel like enough of a dick keeping my helmet on getting gas (but I still do it).


No. Provided you provide some place for people to put them.

It can be very difficult trying to 'browse' in a shop holding a helmet.

You either struggle to do things one handed (try putting clothes back on a hanger with one hand!); or put the helmet on the floor which can be a pain if you are moving steadily along a rack or show case etc. And then someone usually seems to lick it or fall over it.

Provide a shelf for helmets , with a sign. Point it out and ask folk to remove them.

I know! People are always licking my helmet when I leave it on the floor! :lol:

(But hilarious typos aside, I've never been to a shop with a special place to put a helmet. That would be sweet.)

[slofox]

NOBODY gets served in my shop if they don't remove their helmet...coz it's a booze shop and I hafta ID them dinni?
Same for hoodies...I feel like sticking a sign up in the window...


"Hoodie Wearing Bastards STAY OUT!!"

On the grounds that if they are keeping the hoodie on they are prolly underage and trying to hide the fact...besides, ya never know if they're gunna pull out a knife or not...which is why I keep a length of pipe handy...

[avgas]

undo your fly, flop you dick out. then continue to talk to them. After about 5 minutes of trying to talk to them ask "Oh sorry is this distracting you? I never realize these things - I imagine it must be the same for you and your helmet. What condition do you have?"

[IdunBrokdItAgin]

Your shop your rules. I assume it is a bike shop we are talking about.

Generally, leaving your helmet on is rude and just plain lazy, I only leave it on when paying for gas if it is ok with the service attendant (which I check through the art of mime when walking into the station). All other times I take it off.

[Conquiztador]

Most of which make me feel like i have just sworn at their mothers.
.

Ah! Now it makes sense! From this I conclude that you work in South Auckland and his mother is following him with a jandal in her hand. My friend, the helmet is for protection!

[ajturbo]

If I were a servo worker I'd say no, Don't want your money, Give us back our gas and rack off.....:laugh::laugh::laugh:
and they would be more than welcome to get it out of the bike...

[madmal64]

Sparky its you place. Your rules. I personally take my lid off any time ther is a transaction happening. Gas included. :done:

[Robert Taylor]

What about sunglasses so you cannot see the eyes of the person who is talking to you?

[sunhuntin]

What about sunglasses so you cannot see the eyes of the person who is talking to you?

i take those off if im in a shop simply cos otherwise its too dark to see anything! that includes getting gas cos i wear an open facer. have to take them off to see into the tank. lol.

[325rocket]

nope not out of line at all.

[X.T.C]

I wear my helmet on the inside...
tucked away nicely in my pants...

[Dean]

If you can see my eyes with my helmet on is their any problem? Next you will be asking me to take off my pants and breifs because youve caught a glimpse of the one eyed snake but dont see balls. "cmon show us what your hiding under there, shop policy, dont dude me mr! I saw what you were smuggling down there it must be a handlebar grip because I see a pole but no balls now make it schnappy".

[Ixion]

I know! People are always licking my helmet when I leave it on the floor! :lol:

(But hilarious typos aside, I've never been to a shop with a special place to put a helmet. That would be sweet.)

Well, I know Mr Bills works in a bike shop.

So, I'm assuming a LOT of peepz wearing helemts. Wouldn't expect anything in a normal shop, I just plant it on the counter

And, being a bike shop, it's going to be full of bikers, which means there's bound to be a bunch of randoms shuffling round on the floor licking stuff. Y'know what those bikers are like.

[AD345]

Leave your helmet on your bloody bike!

Whats the matter with you lot? Jeez wayne

[tribsanor]

[QUOTE=Ixion;1129477494]No.






And then someone usually seems to lick it or fall over it.


Why would anyone wanna lick your helmet ?::blah::sick:

[Ixion]

[QUOTE=Ixion;1129477494]No.






And then someone usually seems to lick it or fall over it.


Why would anyone wanna lick your helmet ?::blah::sick:

It's a bike shop. There's always some random crawling round licking stuff. Don't you notice that in the bike shops in your area ?

[Sparky Bills]

Dont know if you lot have been into our shop or not, but we have some pretty nice bikes and gear so maybe some people get the uncontrolable urge to lick everything...
Hey... What ever gets ya going.
Just clean it up afterwards so the next person can do the same with minimal contamination :shutup:

[McJim]

I just assumed Ixion was talking about dogs.

[Ixion]

Eh? no, helmets, Why would anyone want to crawl round licking dogs? Ewww. You must have some strange people in your part of the country

[Ozzie]

Eh? no, helmets, Why would anyone want to crawl round licking dogs? Ewww. You must have some strange people in your part of the country

I've seen your lid Ixion, used to white didn't it?

If given the choice, I think I'd go for the dog over your lid, least I know what shit the dogs had on it.

General rule, helmut on when on bike, in dairy and the gas station.

Dairy knows me, they know I'm only after smokes, they know what type, what size, fark, they probably even know my pin.

Been asked to take the lid off at a gas station once, that pissed me off big time, but not half as much as being asked to prepay $20.

Otherwise, lid on is rude and ignorant. It takes away most of the common polite interactions, good morning, hi, smile, etc.

Just rude IMHO

[monkeymcbean]

Just need to get a nice sign that says 'no helmets' 'no licking' at the door entrance, one of those footpath signs that people kick and trip over all the time..

[Beemer]

It's completely rude to wear a helmet inside, that INCLUDES gas stations.
Doesn't matter where you are, same rule applies with hats and for me, sunglasses. The latter also when talking to someone more formally.

I have to agree - I still think it's rude no matter where it is. If someone in a bike shop would like you to take your helmet off when talking to him, why do staff in gas stations get so much flack for expecting the same thing?

[dipshit]

I have to agree - I still think it's rude no matter where it is. If someone in a bike shop would like you to take your helmet off when talking to him, why do staff in gas stations get so much flack for expecting the same thing?

Plus you look like a retard walking around inside a shop with a full-face helmet on.

[ching_ching]

Knock 'em to the ground, get your mate to hold 'em down, lift the visor, plant your mushy butt over their face, unleash one almighty goddamn smelly fart and then slam the visor shut. Then stand back and watch the fireworks begin. I bet they won't want to wear a helmet in your fale ever again.

[McJim]

But what if you don't have a fart brewing?

[Thaeos]

But what if you don't have a fart brewing?

Always carry a portable fart canister for such an occasion

[Ozzie]

But what if you don't have a fart brewing?


SHIT!

Have curry and/or chilly regularly, push, if you shart, then it aint on your nose!

[mynameis]

What kind of dickhead walks into a bike shop with their helmet on, especially if you're going to spend a little bit of time in there and/or have a half decent convo with someone.

Only simple courtesy to take it out. Servos it's a different thing you walk in say hi pay and leave within secs.

But bike shops.

There's a similar thread on here somewhere about servo and helmets.

[mynameis]

Totally in line I'd say. To me it's like guys who wear a hat at the dinner table (yes Ronin, and socks during sex),(OK, maybe I'm a bit old fashioned when it comes to manners), it's rude, and if you want people to understand what you're saying, take the helmet off.

Question, if you're wearing a cap not a hat why do you have to take it off if you go somewhere like a pub or club?


I recall reading on here about a bike shop sales guy who, when in this situation, would chuck a helmet on and mumble back at the customer...

Hahaha, must have been crasherfrom...


You are quite in order to request that helmets be removed, along with balaclavas, burqas, etc. You should always be able to identify who you are dealing with.

Burqas? :weird: Their husbands would skim your chops off.


Plus - you cannot blow on your pie with a helmet on - safer communities together.

That's sooooo 10 days ago.


i keep mine on because my face would scare away all your customers.

Hahahaha :lol:


Anyone rude enough not to remove their helmet when entering a shop or a building is just a badly educated fuckwit.



Yes there are lots of badly educated fuckwits around.


farrk! not this crap again:brick:
edit: lets see here.... search "remove helmet"...... 1st 3 pages hmmm
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=99461&highlight=remove+helmet
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=94582&highlight=remove+helmet
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=91368&highlight=remove+helmet

I was gonna say the last thread had 300 odd replies :laugh:

[marigami]

Sorry for interfering but further to think wearing helmet while shoping is rude,I think it is obvious bikers should not keep it while shopint or else!
I do not know for NZ but here in France you have to remove first your helmet before paying for example to get oil (of course not when you are using machine and only your credit card), especially for the youngers.
Otherwise in most places you won't get oil at all!
And anyway I think tha helmet can be quite intimidating for people it is better to show your face and pay a little attention to people for a while.