How many Kiwi Bikers are members of political parties?

[Hitcher]

While we're looking at ways of leveraging our "reach", where better to start than with card-carrying members of registered political parties.

While reading the "Ride to the National Party conference" thread, I thought that there is likely to be a bunch of our august contributors who are paid-up members of this outfit.

There's no need to "out" yourselves if you don't want to, but I'd be interested in any and all sensible contributions to the attached poll.

[slofox]

No one political party in NZ reflects fully what I believe in - some of them cover parts of it, but none of them do enough for me to merit me paying them money. Most of them have one or two good points but they all also have some stuff that I think is loony. So no, I don't pay any of them.

[rainman]

No one political party in NZ reflects fully what I believe in - some of them cover parts of it, but none of them do enough for me to merit me paying them money. Most of them have one or two good points but they all also have some stuff that I think is loony. So no, I don't pay any of them.

In what may be no surprise to those who have read many of my other posts, I'm closest to the Greens, so they (usually) get my vote, and at election time at least, some cash. At one stage this meant I was card-carrying. But not currently.

EDIT: Just seen you're looking for National party supporters... sorry, not here.

[munster]

Yes I am, but Bill & Ben don't hold much sway in the current parliament :-(

[Motu]

I used to go to the Hare Krishna sunday feast when ever I could.Lots of bullshit talks to go though before you could pig out on the free food.But I was never a member...I was just there for the free food.

[Big Dave]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1129477357&postcount=27

[Big Dave]

I used to go to the Hare Krishna sunday feast when ever I could.Lots of bullshit talks to go though before you could pig out on the free food.But I was never a member...I was just there for the free food.


And you liked like a longhair.

[Mom]

No card carrying supporter here either. My vote is mine. Nothing I want to share with others. The one thing that has never been discussed is how you vote in any home of mine since I left one that insisted on "one" way back in 1976. I have always voted though, anyone that doesn't needs a friggen kick up the bum in my book.

Mind you my vote does not count in my electorate, I am in a National stronghold and all that stuff. One more tick for Lockwood, will not change the overall vote, just like one vote less wont either.

Sure MMP apparently gave me a choice, but what choice?

Guess you will have to call me a swinger :D

[Ms Piggy]

No one political party in NZ reflects fully what I believe in - some of them cover parts of it, but none of them do enough for me to merit me paying them money. Most of them have one or two good points but they all also have some stuff that I think is loony. So no, I don't pay any of them.

Yep - what he said.

[twotyred]

" 'I think the puppet on the right shares my beliefs.' ...'I think the puppet on the left is more to my liking.'... 'Hey, wait a minute, there's one guy holding up both puppets!'”
~ Bill Hicks

[Ixion]

I used to go to the Hare Krishna sunday feast when ever I could.Lots of bullshit talks to go though before you could pig out on the free food.But I was never a member...I was just there for the free food.

Hey, I went there. Some of that food was good, for stuff that doesn't really class as food, but they had this one drink, vilest thing I ever tasted.

Gopals in Queen St was good too. And they didn't try to convert you there.

I almost got converted, this chick I was keen on went head and heels into it, saffron robes and all, so I said I'd be one too. But then I found that part of the deal was she wasn't supposed to let me screw her, which was the whole point of the exercise (so to speak, so to speak) . So I called it off. Dunno what hapened to her.

But I don't think the Krishnas classed as a political party.

I can't be a member of a politcal party cos I used to be a member of a political party which disappeared. So now none of them will have me.

[Hitcher]

Fascinating stuff so far. Perhaps political parties aren't as representative as they once were? That could be an interesting topic for discussion outside of this forum.

My thought was to develop some conversation starters for bikers who may be party members to use that their respective annual conferences. While the Nats is probably the first cab of the rank timing wise in relation to the ACC campaign, there are probably events looming. It was not my intention, as noted in my opening post, to out any Tory bikers. That's their decision.

[carl freimann]

card carrying member of ACT and candidate in last election. Best to get involved try to influence the process rather than bitching from the outside. ACT is the closest thing in this country to freedom for the people, small government, and personal rights are the pillars of the party. Hey we want to privatise ACC so it works like an insurance company not another bureaucratic slush fund. i will brace for the storm of protest. I am trying to get the ACT mps to meet the rally, will keep you posted. cheers and stay upright.(any day on two wheels beats any other day, ride on!!!):angry2::angry2::angry2::angry2::angry2:

[James Deuce]

card carrying member of ACT and candidate in last election. Best to get involved try to influence the process rather than bitching from the outside. ACT is the closest thing in this country to freedom for the people, small government, and personal rights are the pillars of the party. Hey we want to privatise ACC so it works like an insurance company not another bureaucratic slush fund. i will brace for the storm of protest. I am trying to get the ACT mps to meet the rally, will keep you posted. cheers and stay upright.(any day on two wheels beats any other day, ride on!!!):angry2::angry2::angry2::angry2::angry2:

You folks support the levy increase. I thought they would have taken your bike away from you by now.

Lets drop the "Insurance" pretense.

Keep ACT away from the rallies bud. They may not like the welcome.

[StoneY]

Guess you will have to call me a swinger :D

Ive gone BLIND!!!!!!

Was a Labour member, but joined Govt service and had to relinquish my membership for the role I was in (cant say much about it either)

Would have re-joined but I been busy riding my two motorcycles and pretending i'm still 17!!!!

[mossy1200]

Im thinking of starting my own.Its Mossy Motorcycle Party.I would abolish ACC levy on bikes and tax rugby players.Thats all ive got but it could be good for a few votes.:woohoo:

[Ixion]

Hitcher, (or any knowledgeable random), how does a hypothetical person start a politcal party. How much does it cost. Does it hurt. Do you need a midwife?

And, most importantly, is it legitimate to say that members of said politcal party amy also be , at the same time, members of any other politcal aprty if they wish.


I gots an idea.

[James Deuce]

$500 and a form.

[Ixion]

Wot form? Where? Why $500 ? Who does a hypothetical person bribe? Is there any of that stupid crap like being of good character or stuff. There allways seems to be something like that which buggers things up.

[James Deuce]

http://www.elections.org.nz/record/registers/registered-political-parties.html

[mossy1200]

Wot form? Where? Why $500 ? Who does a hypothetical person bribe? Is there any of that stupid crap like being of good character or stuff. There allways seems to be something like that which buggers things up.

You cant be of good character or you wont fit in.
Qualifications are.

You must be able to sleep through noise.
You must be able to keep straight face while lying.
Denial is your friend.
Any juicy info needs to be kept for damage control at later date.

[Ixion]

Where's it say 500 bucks? Says you gotta have 500 members. We got more than that here . (My member should count for at least two)

[mossy1200]

Where's it say 500 bucks? Says you gotta have 500 members. We got more than that here . (My member should count for at least two)
I second that and your nomination is now forwarded for KB vote.

[James Deuce]

Where's it say 500 bucks? Says you gotta have 500 members. We got more than that here . (My member should count for at least two)
My mistake there used to be a registration fee.

Full rules.
http://www.elections.org.nz/rules/parties/parties-nonelection/how-register-party.html

I can haz cheezburga now?

[Papa Bear]

Hitcher, (or any knowledgeable random), how does a hypothetical person start a politcal party. How much does it cost. Does it hurt. Do you need a midwife?

And, most importantly, is it legitimate to say that members of said politcal party amy also be , at the same time, members of any other politcal aprty if they wish.


I gots an idea.

IXION FOR PRIME MINISTER :woohoo:

Ya got my vote

[Ixion]

No. No cheezburga. I'm on a roill.

Would Larry the Lobster classify as a member? Do member's have to be human?

I got one of my idea's coming on. The last time this happened they had to call in the Auditors of Reality to sort it out.

[Ixion]

And I'm fuckin' serious. if these politcal barstools cna mess with us, we can mess with them .

They're doing it in NSW (http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/bikers-to-start-political-party/2009/01/17/1231609053553.html) ! We can too!

[quickbuck]

Im thinking of starting my own.Its Mossy Motorcycle Party.I would abolish ACC levy on bikes and tax rugby players.Thats all ive got but it could be good for a few votes.:woohoo:

Well, a few more than many parties..... Could be a little dangerous with 2011 being World Cup year as well.....

Guess that is the first lesson in "Can't please 'em all".

[mossy1200]

I just want what I used to have...









Moderatly overpriced registration costs.:argh:

Vote Ixion

[klingon]

... I can't be a member of a politcal party cos I used to be a member of a political party which disappeared. So now none of them will have me.

You were a McGillicuddy too?! :gob: Thought I was the only one.

[Ixion]

You were a McGillicuddy too?! :gob: Thought I was the only one.

No. I was a Communist.

This is serious business . Please retire.

Fuck me, one day this thread may be right up there with the front room of the Blackball pub.

[Ixion]

na,me must be less than 52 chars. Motorcycle Rights Party is only about 25

Need an auditor it says.

We has gotz bean counters. McJim, you're a a beanie? Hey , so is madDuck. We got beanies.

[Ixion]

Auditor needs to be a CA. We can work round that.

[carl freimann]

ACT wants no increase just a better deal, i am tableing a proposal to levy fuel only, pay as you go as it were. the more you use the more you pay, i spent several years scraping friends,dickheads, and locals off of the road as a voli firefighter, and you know the worst crashes bike or otherwise were caused by non-registered or warranted vehicles, and those drivers pay no fees at all but use the most of the dollars in mt experience, so a fuel levy will catch them too, and the lower rego will engender more warrant compliance.

[James Deuce]

ACT wants no increase just a better deal, i am tableing a proposal to levy fuel only, pay as you go as it were. the more you use the more you pay, i spent several years scraping friends,dickheads, and locals off of the road as a voli firefighter, and you know the worst crashes bike or otherwise were caused by non-registered or warranted vehicles, and those drivers pay no fees at all but use the most of the dollars in mt experience, so a fuel levy will catch them too, and the lower rego will engender more warrant compliance.
I would have thought ACT would be against rampant inflation as well.

[Ixion]

ACT wants no increase just a better deal, i am tableing a proposal to levy fuel only, pay as you go as it were. the more you use the more you pay, i spent several years scraping friends,dickheads, and locals off of the road as a voli firefighter, and you know the worst crashes bike or otherwise were caused by non-registered or warranted vehicles, and those drivers pay no fees at all but use the most of the dollars in mt experience, so a fuel levy will catch them too, and the lower rego will engender more warrant compliance.

ACC via an increased levy on fuel has been BRONZ policy for many years.

[oldrider]

Hey, I went there. Some of that food was good, for stuff that doesn't really class as food, but they had this one drink, vilest thing I ever tasted.

Gopals in Queen St was good too. And they didn't try to convert you there.

I almost got converted, this chick I was keen on went head and heels into it, saffron robes and all, so I said I'd be one too. But then I found that part of the deal was she wasn't supposed to let me screw her, which was the whole point of the exercise (so to speak, so to speak) . So I called it off. Dunno what hapened to her.

But I don't think the Krishnas classed as a political party.

I can't be a member of a politcal party cos I used to be a member of a political party which disappeared. So now none of them will have me.

I think your so called defunct party just changed it's colours from red to green! :whistle:

I do not belong to any political party but do have leanings toward some of the Libertarianz (freedom of the individual) points of view!

I voted National last election, hoping for some change towards "Law and order" but can not see any change yet nor any on the horizon!

I am deeply pissed off with this current attack on motorcyclists!

Even more so with the AA interference and attack on our means of transport and the enjoyment we derive from it!

[Ixion]

I think your so called defunct party just changed it's colours from red to green! :whistle:

I do not belong to any political party but do have leanings toward some of the Libertarianz (freedom of the individual) points of view!

I voted National last election, hoping for some change towards "Law and order" but can not see any change yet nor any on the horizon!

I am deeply pissed off with this current attack on motorcyclists!

Even more so with the AA interference and attack on our means of transport and the enjoyment we derive from it!

No, I just ate their food. I was broke, and the Krishnas' gave you cheap (or free ) food. Hey, and a young guy will agree to a great deal for a root.

You didn't have to agree with them . They fed you anyway (actually, that sort of puts them into the Christ space) .

I hate the AA because they have no justification to attack us. The ACC , it's just money - we cost them money, they want us to pay more. I can understand that . National party, they get upset because we don't conform to the lord and peon version of society.

But AA - they attack us from pure malevolence.

[Disco Dan]

I had dinner with John Key once, very nice man and very intelligent. This was prior to him becoming PM though.

[klingon]

I had dinner with John Key once, very good at making people think he is a nice man and very intelligent. This was prior to him becoming PM though.

Corrected for accuracy.

John Key is very talented at saying what he knows people want to hear. I have had the pleasure of his company on several occasions and depending what group I am in (eg bikers old ladies, students) I have heard him say very very different things on the same subject.

You should have heard what he said about motorcyclists behind closed doors at the National Party policy conference while we were protesting outside. :bash:

He can't keep this up for much longer without getting caught out, but it's a shame he has so many people believing he's the 'good guy' at the moment.

[quickbuck]

He can't keep this up for much longer without getting caught out......

Small country and all....
Same faces in different places.....

You have a point, many of us wear many different hats.

[Hanne]

Well I have feeling that a few uni guys may be on the list for the Bill and Ben party, courtesy of the sign up sheet circulating around Shadows in April last year after the chiller... ><

[klingon]

Well I have feeling that a few uni guys may be on the list for the Bill and Ben party, courtesy of the sign up sheet circulating around Shadows in April last year after the chiller... ><

I was at the Auckland version of Backbenchers (the political panel discussion thingy on TV). They held a special one in Mt Albert during the by-election. The rep from the Bill & Ben party showed up late and the bouncers wouldn't let him in because the venue was full. He did everything to persuade them that he should be allowed in, but they said he could only go in if someone else came out.

Poor guy phoned all his friends who were already in there, and not a single one would come out so he could go in. :lol:

Who needs enemies when you have friends like that?!

[ManDownUnder]

No - I don't usually subscribe to the whole damned manifesto of any one party in particular so they don't get my cash.

[carver]

In what may be no surprise to those who have read many of my other posts, I'm closest to the Greens, so they (usually) get my vote, and at election time at least, some cash. At one stage this meant I was card-carrying. But not currently.

EDIT: Just seen you're looking for National party supporters... sorry, not here.


http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=84688
plenty of voters though

I am a libertarianz regional co-ordinator.

check us out before you ask for anything

[Motu]

Gopals in Queen St was good too. And they didn't try to convert you there.


When they first tried to open their resteraunt in Queens St it was going to be All you Can Eat For $1 - in 246 above McDonalds.Hardly surprising Big M won the day.When they did open at the Civic it was all you could eat for 2 bucks - still a good deal.And I never went back for seconds,you got enough in the first serving.

People have got no idea these days on how to do things differently - they must all be on the same political web site of new ideas.Where are all the bright sparks to sizzle against the wet newspaper held up in defense by boring old farts.

[rainman]

I am a libertarianz regional co-ordinator.


Now why does that not surprise me....? :lol:

[carver]

Now why does that not surprise me....? :lol:

well, i have stated my position on here quite a lot

[short-circuit]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=84688
plenty of voters though

I am a libertarianz regional co-ordinator.

check us out before you ask for anything

Always suspected that aside from being severely egotistical you're a complete prick. Just confirmed my hunch.

[rainman]

Always suspected that aside from being severely egotistical you're a complete prick. Just confirmed my hunch.

That's a bit harsh, surely? I understand egotism correlating with the individual-centricity of libertarianism, but not all libs are pricks. Many, perhaps, but not all.

Anyway, I'm hopping out of this before the threadjack takes it to PD...

[StoneY]

IXION FOR PRIME MINISTER :woohoo:

Ya got my vote

Hey I already called that on the 20/20 thread!
Agreed Ixion for PM, Spankme for Deputy! (and her possum for Treasurer!)

[Bald Eagle]

Hey I already called that on the 20/20 thread!
Agreed Ixion for PM, Spankme for Deputy! (and her possum for Treasurer!)

and StoneY for Master-at-Arms

[Ixion]

...When they did open at the Civic it was all you could eat for 2 bucks - still a good deal.And I never went back for seconds,you got enough in the first serving.

...

And I sure ate a lot for me $2 !

[SPman]

Tinkered with Values and then the Progressive Greens (the Green Party in touch with reality), way back when, but then decided they were all mainly egotistical douchebags and have returned to my anarchistic roots!

[carver]

Always suspected that aside from being severely egotistical you're a complete prick. Just confirmed my hunch.

bad day at school?
were the kiddies mean to you?