F&P appliance service question

[pete376403]

Slightly bike related - it has been used to wash beer glasses after a ride :-)
Anyway, F&P DD601 dual dish drawer, the main power board (filter board) blew up while the top drawer was being used. Hence the top drawer is up and locked - and full of dishes. Anyone know how to turn the lid motors to unlock the drawer? The board fried badly enough to melt the connectors going to the top drawer, so I can't just install a new board and power the lid up.
I think know why the board fried, the cable/hose guide for the bottom drawer broke and the loose end stopped the lid closing properly, resulting in a flood.
New board, 2 new cable guides and a new loom - probably only marginally cheaper than getting a new d/drawer. But if I dump this one theres 3/4 of a dinner set and most of the good knives and forks in there as well.

[Laava]

Swap you for an old VCR with a mint copy of Goodbye Pork Pie jammed inside?

[mossy1200]

How did you get the front panel off the top drawer with it shaut as the lock pins are out of sight at that point?
The dc drive motors wind a thred bolt that pulls the lid down.If you have the front panel off then you should be able pull the guide rails forward if you pressure the draw front up and the motors will release perhaps.

[Sam I Am]

Ouch ous did the same but just flooded the bottom (a hair dryer to the rescue) once apart the motors that wind the top down look like they are just little 12v with a worm drive ( reminded me of toy motors ) if you can find wires you could try to jump them...
worce case if you are going to ditch it i recon you could force it open... but the brushed stanless handle is only plastic so it would soon snap...

[JimO]

those dishdraws are crap, no wonder fnp is fucked here

[riffer]

It's rooted Pete.

Use a crowbar to jemmy off the front cover.

[pete376403]

How did you get the front panel off the top drawer with it shaut as the lock pins are out of sight at that point?
The dc drive motors wind a thred bolt that pulls the lid down.If you have the front panel off then you should be able pull the guide rails forward if you pressure the draw front up and the motors will release perhaps.
Yeah well thats the problem. I cant access the top drawer motors at all. I've removed the bottom drawer easy enough, thats how I got at the filter board.
I could try putting 12v onto the top drawer motor wires, I suppose.
Go and get the battery out of the bike...

[mossy1200]

Yeah well thats the problem. I cant access the top drawer motors at all. I've removed the bottom drawer easy enough, thats how I got at the filter board.
I could try putting 12v onto the top drawer motor wires, I suppose.
Go and get the battery out of the bike...

They are a dc drive motor so should work ok.I only worked on a couple after they changed from inflation seal to pull down lid.The drive motor wires should be accessable from the small rear inspection panel or its get out the tin snips for you im afraid.

[peasea]

Slightly bike related - it has been used to wash beer glasses after a ride :-)
Anyway, F&P DD601 dual dish drawer, the main power board (filter board) blew up while the top drawer was being used. Hence the top drawer is up and locked - and full of dishes. Anyone know how to turn the lid motors to unlock the drawer? The board fried badly enough to melt the connectors going to the top drawer, so I can't just install a new board and power the lid up.
I think know why the board fried, the cable/hose guide for the bottom drawer broke and the loose end stopped the lid closing properly, resulting in a flood.
New board, 2 new cable guides and a new loom - probably only marginally cheaper than getting a new d/drawer. But if I dump this one theres 3/4 of a dinner set and most of the good knives and forks in there as well.

I read the first line and fell off me fuckin' chair!

What was the problem again?

[Mully]

It's rooted Pete.

Use a crowbar to jemmy off the front cover.

I concur.

If it's fucked. Trash the bastard to get your stuff.

[hayd3n]

i have a few consoles here what generation is the dish draw
a m8 of mine grabbed a few before he was forced to leave

[Swoop]

"Sabre saw" is the answer you are looking for.

A workmate has had the same problems with his unit. Required a techy to come out and replace wiring and boards.

F&P are crap.

[Flatcap]

Had a similar thing happen with the brain on our F&P - just about set the house on fire
F&P supplied a new brain, we had to pay to have it put in. They were quite good about it as we had no receipt for it.

Lasted about 4 years, took it to the tip a few weeks back

[Forest]

Another faulty F&P appliance?

Why am I not surprised...

[Pixie]

Good O'l F&P eh!
Wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.

As an electronics tech,I only buy appliances with mechanical timers.If the marketing says "microprocessor controlled",I tell the salesman to stick it.

Buy Euro or US

[avgas]

Good O'l F&P eh!
Wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.

As an electronics tech,I only buy appliances with mechanical timers.If the marketing says "microprocessor controlled",I tell the salesman to stick it.

Buy Euro or US
Disagree with you a bit there.....Korean electronics works.
Not only that - but mechanically speaking ALOT simpler than what the euros and brits make. LG and Samsung drives consist of a controller, drive motor and belt........the undercarriage of all the euro and american washer looks like a V6 holden....
F&P problem is it was never commissioned by an electronics tech......more an electrical engineer who's only clue was horrible PLC's.
If it had an actually uC or FPGA brains - they probably never have a prob with them.

[JimO]

i had a friend who worked making the things she wouldnt own one