Sting gone out of MotoGP '09?

[slowpoke]

Like hell: Spies vs Toseland at Valencia is gonna be huge.

Place your bets!

[gav]

I would think Ben Spies may be targeting riders a bit higher up than James Toseland. :whistle:

[Sidewinder]

Like hell: Spies vs Toseland at Valencia is gonna be huge.

Place your bets!

spud we both know id waste them both.

[BigG]

Bring Haga up as well to partner Stoner, exciting eH!

[White trash]

My bet? Spies will stand on the podium.

Toseland will cry his eyes out.

Edwards will give someone "the shocker"

Rossi will say "For-me eet wassa veddy-good-race...."

[slowpoke]

spud we both know id waste them both.

I don't think they do nudie runs these days mate, you're a couple of decades late.

[roogazza]

Like hell: Spies vs Toseland at Valencia is gonna be huge.

Place your bets!

On that Yamaha I'm picking Spies to be close to Edwards, which is 5 or 6th ?
But I'm not picking him to beat Edwards !
Toseland to put in a big effort and stick it in the shrubbery ! Gaz.

[slowpoke]

On that Yamaha I'm picking Spies to be around Edwards, which is 5 or 6th ?
But I'm not picking him to beat Edwards !
Toseland to put in a big effort and stick it in the shrubbery ! Gaz.

I was thinkin' 'bout the same mate....but I doubt either of 'em will look half as speccy as you in your profile pic!

[roogazza]

I was thinkin' 'bout the same mate....but I doubt either of 'em will look half as speccy as you in your profile pic!

Ha, bit old huh? Like the gardening boots painted white ? G.

[johan]

Spies better keep those elbows in!

This will be good!

Toseland is already comparing laptimes with Spies:

“I’ve been looking at Ben’s race time and in two days on the bike we are nearly a second a lap faster..."

http://www.bikesportnews.com/articles/article.html?id=PORTIMAO_WSB_TEST_TOSELAND_FASTER_ THAN_SPIES_RACE_PACE_1&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=rss

[vifferman]

Don't forget when Bayliss had a wee go at MotoGp....

[TonyB]

Spies better keep those elbows in!

This will be good!

Toseland is already comparing laptimes with Spies:

“I’ve been looking at Ben’s race time and in two days on the bike we are nearly a second a lap faster..."

http://www.bikesportnews.com/articles/article.html?id=PORTIMAO_WSB_TEST_TOSELAND_FASTER_ THAN_SPIES_RACE_PACE_1&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=rss
Yeah but Toseland wasn't the fastest- not by a long shot. Several bikes were faster the Spies time, which would suggest that if Spies were there, he would have been faster too. Toesland only won a WSBK championship because he was on a factory Ducati at a time when Ducati were totally dominant.

[Wingnut]

Yeah but Toseland wasn't the fastest- not by a long shot. Several bikes were faster the Spies time, which would suggest that if Spies were there, he would have been faster too. Toesland only won a WSBK championship because he was on a factory Ducati at a time when Ducati were totally dominant.

Didn't he also win on a Hoooonda?

[Tony.OK]

Didn't he also win on a Hoooonda?

Aye..................one o dem sexy Ten Kate machines:niceone:

[White trash]

Spies better keep those elbows in!

This will be good!

Toseland is already comparing laptimes with Spies:

“I’ve been looking at Ben’s race time and in two days on the bike we are nearly a second a lap faster..."

http://www.bikesportnews.com/articles/article.html?id=PORTIMAO_WSB_TEST_TOSELAND_FASTER_ THAN_SPIES_RACE_PACE_1&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=rss
What a cock.

That's like me saying. "Last year in testing at Manfeild I was circulating at 68s a lap, the week before Craig gave me a hiding doing 69s. He won, but I'm faster"

Fucken laughable.

[gixerracer]

What a cock.

That's like me saying. "Last year in testing at Manfeild I was circulating at 68s a lap, the week before Craig gave me a hiding doing 69s. He won, but I'm faster"

Fucken laughable.
wot a cock you have neva ben close to that fast not even in your dreams:2guns::no::bleh::laugh::done:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Will be the third Yamaha home this time. 4th place behind Stoner, Lorenzo and Rossi.

[AllanB]

Moto GP - lost my viewing of that after the F-wits at SKY pulled it off Prime.

Every now and then I get to see a highlight or two on TV1.

Pisses me off as it was something I really enjoyed watching.

[gav]

Plenty of chance to download each race off the net if you were half interested in the racing ....

[Shaun P]

What a cock.

That's like me saying. "Last year in testing at Manfeild I was circulating at 68s a lap, the week before Craig gave me a hiding doing 69s. He won, but I'm faster"

Fucken laughable.


wot a cock you have neva ben close to that fast not even in your dreams:2guns::no::bleh::laugh::done:



I sense a cockfight brewing :eek5:

[gixerracer]

I sense a cockfight brewing :eek5:

I dont like violence maybe a meassure up jimmys missis told me how much smaller he is than me when i was there yesterday:Oops:

[White trash]

I dont like violence maybe a meassure up jimmys missis told me how much smaller he is than me when i was there yesterday:Oops:
She was just trying to make you feel better about being such a short cunt and stuck on a Honda to boot. She only loves you for your poetry talents anyway........

[Riff Raff]

I dont like violence maybe a meassure up jimmys missis told me how much smaller he is than me when i was there yesterday:Oops:

I think I actually said Jimmy's ego was smaller than yours. But if you want to flop out your wotsit for a measurement then that's fine....

[Shaun]

I think I actually said Jimmy's ego was smaller than yours. But if you want to flop out your wotsit for a measurement then that's fine....



He would need to find the piece of string it is attached to first, so he could find it to flop it out, that is why his mrs comes to see me at race meetings when he is pretending to be a racer

[denill]

Will be the third Yamaha home this time. 4th place behind Stoner, Lorenzo and Rossi.

Mmmm, a brave call and if it pans out anything like that, I for one won't be able to wait till '10..........:woohoo: :woohoo:

But hey, it has added a lotta interest to a done deal.

[carbonhed]

Mmmm, a brave call and if it pans out anything like that, I for one won't be able to wait till '10..........:woohoo: :woohoo:

But hey, it has added a lotta interest to a done deal.

A huge call.

I doubt he'll beat Edwards and with Tech 3 starting to struggle... maybe 8th?

[Crasherfromwayback]

A huge call.

I doubt he'll beat Edwards and with Tech 3 starting to struggle... maybe 8th?

He'll smoke Edwards's ass. If not this race...next season all season.

[carbonhed]

He'll smoke Edwards's ass. If not this race...next season all season.

So does this mean you're backing away from the third Yamaha home prediction?

Meh... whatever. Huge talent but flawed style that I doubt will translate well to a Moto GP bike.

[Crasherfromwayback]

So does this mean you're backing away from the third Yamaha home prediction?

Meh... whatever. Huge talent but flawed style that I doubt will translate well to a Moto GP bike.

Ahhhh...nope. Lorenzo 1st Yamaha home. Rossi 2nd Yamaha home...and SPIES 3rd Yamaha home. Edwards 4th Yamaha home.

Flawed style you say? Mmmmm...that's odd mate. His *flawed* style didn't seem to stop him winning a record number of poles in his 1st ever season of Superbike racing on tracks he'd never seen...and winning what...13 races was it? to Nori's 8??? Winning the title in his Rookie year...smashing lap records at most tracks he went to...

Yep...they guy is flawed and will never do any good.

[carbonhed]

Ahhhh...nope. Lorenzo 1st Yamaha home. Rossi 2nd Yamaha home...and SPIES 3rd Yamaha home. Edwards 4th Yamaha home.

Flawed style you say? Mmmmm...that's odd mate. His *flawed* style didn't seem to stop him winning a record number of poles in his 1st ever season of Superbike racing on tracks he'd never seen...and winning what...13 races was it? to Nori's 8??? Winning the title in his Rookie year...smashing lap records at most tracks he went to...

Yep...they guy is flawed and will never do any good.

Do you think he'd be riding like that if he'd gone through 125 and 250 GP's? Course not. Very talented Superbike banger but a Superbike banger nonetheless. Won't be running with the Aliens and his style won't suit a Moto GP bike.

Anyway we'll just have to wait till next week when Edwards will stuff him to the tonsils and every other rider within sight will be trying to do exactly the same to the noob.

[gatch]

He'll smoke Edwards's ass.

Motorcycling racing has taken a turn for the worse..

[Crasherfromwayback]

Motorcycling racing has taken a turn for the worse..

It'll be done in the best possible taste...

[gatch]

It'll be done in the best possible taste...

Reckon they'll be friends afterward ?

[gav]

Do you think he'd be riding like that if he'd gone through 125 and 250 GP's? Course not. Very talented Superbike banger but a Superbike banger nonetheless. Won't be running with the Aliens and his style won't suit a Moto GP bike.

Anyway we'll just have to wait till next week when Edwards will stuff him to the tonsils and every other rider within sight will be trying to do exactly the same to the noob.
WTF? You do know he's already raced a MotoGP bike and certainly didnt look out of place. :rockon: Guess it depends how tired those Tech3 engines are now for the last race of the year. No doubt Spies has a nice fresh new motor slotted in. Top 5 for Spies is certainly not out of the question. :scooter:

[XRVrider]

WTF? You do know he's already raced a MotoGP bike and certainly didnt look out of place. :rockon: Guess it depends how tired those Tech3 engines are now for the last race of the year. No doubt Spies has a nice fresh new motor slotted in. Top 5 for Spies is certainly not out of the question. :scooter:

Yep not out of the question, but its racing, dudes in front could take each other out etc... So if he gets better than 6th in an uneventful race then well done, I reckon he might just not have the experience at that top level, as it is higher than SB, but good luck to Spies but 6th max for mine. I think this race is more about Rossi and Stoner, and who wins that battle, Rossi will be gunning to beat Stoner after recent results.

[Crasherfromwayback]

WTF? You do know he's already raced a MotoGP bike and certainly didnt look out of place. :rockon: Guess it depends how tired those Tech3 engines are now for the last race of the year. No doubt Spies has a nice fresh new motor slotted in. Top 5 for Spies is certainly not out of the question. :scooter:

I'd say he wouldn't have a fucking clue. Never mind Spies raced the well out classed Suzuki and still did really well. He also seems to forget (or just wasn't around then) that Eddie Lawson, Wayne Gardner, Revvin Kevin, Wayne Rainey and Mick Doohan to name a few came from Superbikes I guess.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Reckon they'll be friends afterward ?

Nope. I don't think Spies gives a fuck about making friends at the track. And that's the way to go. I made very few...couldn't give a toss about that...not what you're there for.

[Racey Rider]

Did Superbikes race at Valencia? does he know the track?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Did Superbikes race at Valencia? does he know the track?

Yep...third round. Mind you...he set 11 pole posistion for the season on tracks he'd never seen...so doubt it'd matter that much if he hadn't been there. Obviously a very quick learner.

[slowpoke]

Nope. I don't think Spies gives a fuck about making friends at the track. And that's the way to go. I made very few...couldn't give a toss about that...not what you're there for.

So what were you there for?

Unless you are racing for National or International Championships there's no money it, so it's just for the sheer enjoyment isn't it? I'm not saying you go along to be all lovey dovey but I don't see why ya can't try your heart out on the track and share a laugh with like minded folks off it.

Most of it's only club racing for chrissakes. Even at Nationals level it's only a tin cup you are racing for, there are no sheep stations or pink slips involved. If you can't shake the hand, or share a beer with sthe blokes you've battling with, be it on the track or on the sports field, there's something not quite right I reckon. Isn't that the essence of sport?

[Crasherfromwayback]

So what were you there for?

Unless you are racing for National or International Championships there's no money it, so it's just for the sheer enjoyment isn't it? I'm not saying you go along to be all lovey dovey but I don't see why ya can't try your heart out on the track and share a laugh with like minded folks off it.

Most of it's only club racing for chrissakes. Even at Nationals level it's only a tin cup you are racing for, there are no sheep stations or pink slips involved. If you can't shake the hand, or share a beer with sthe blokes you've battling with, be it on the track or on the sports field, there's something not quite right I reckon. Isn't that the essence of sport?

Don't think I ever said I wouldn't shake hands and have a beer with competitors mate! I raced at National level and was there to win races. I was fairly agressive in my riding and a lot of people don't/didn't like that. I couldn't give a fuck...as I said...I didn't go there to make friends. I wanted to win races.

I came from a moto-x backround...and the dirt crew are far friendlier and more down to earth that the road race set. When I first went road racing...I was amazed at how many people wandered around like they were Eddie Lawson or something. Far too cool for their own good...and that was more often than not the peanuts at the back of the pack.

[codgyoleracer]

Don't think I ever said I wouldn't shake hands and have a beer with competitors mate! I raced at National level and was there to win races. I was fairly agressive in my riding and a lot of people don't/didn't like that. I couldn't give a fuck...as I said...I didn't go there to make friends. I wanted to win races.

I came from a moto-x backround...and the dirt crew are far friendlier and more down to earth that the road race set. When I first went road racing...I was amazed at how many people wandered around like they were Eddie Lawson or something. Far too cool for their own good...and that was more often than not the peanuts at the back of the pack.

Always thought you had a dirty background, - dontya know that most of us roadies are in it for the shiney leather suits and bullshit stories afterwards....... :-), Puddle jumpers only seem to have conversations about which bone they havent broken yet :-):blink:

[slowpoke]

Don't think I ever said I wouldn't shake hands and have a beer with competitors mate! I raced at National level and was there to win races. I was fairly agressive in my riding and a lot of people don't/didn't like that. I couldn't give a fuck...as I said...I didn't go there to make friends. I wanted to win races.

I came from a moto-x backround...and the dirt crew are far friendlier and more down to earth that the road race set. When I first went road racing...I was amazed at how many people wandered around like they were Eddie Lawson or something. Far too cool for their own good...and that was more often than not the peanuts at the back of the pack.

Sorry mate, wasn't meaning to have a go at ya (although though your paragraphs above almost contradict each other, lol). Each to their own, we've all got our own itch to scratch, eh?

I dunno, it's just been a succession of working shitty rosters at shitty mines across Oz, or offshore, to get to the point where I can actually afford to be one of those peanuts. It's far far too late in life to be aiming for world domination so I'm not gonna limit my enjoyment by making it conditional on results. Doesn't mean I'm not giving it 100% either, but at the end of a days racing I'm just happy to be there.

I look at Casey Stoner, Max Biaggi or Mat Mladin and for all their massive talent, incredible lifestyles etc they don't seem to be having a good time unless they are winning. They seem to lose sight of the fact that they are leading amazingly fortunate lives, and what they are doing is just a sport, not finding a cure for cancer. That's part of why I like Ben Spies and Troy Bayliss, they don't need to hate anybody to do well, and don't trip over their bottom lip if things don't go as planned. I like the way they've achieved what they have as much as what they've actually achieved. But that's just me, other people actually like Biaggi, go figure......

[Crasherfromwayback]

Always thought you had a dirty background, - dontya know that most of us roadies are in it for the shiney leather suits and bullshit stories afterwards....... :-), Puddle jumpers only seem to have conversations about which bone they havent broken yet :-):blink:

I can (and do) bullshit with the best of them mate!


Sorry mate, wasn't meaning to have a go at ya (although though your paragraphs above almost contradict each other, lol). Each to their own, we've all got our own itch to scratch, eh?


I look at Casey Stoner, Max Biaggi or Mat Mladin and for all their massive talent, incredible lifestyles etc they don't seem to be having a good time unless they are winning. They seem to lose sight of the fact that they are leading amazingly fortunate lives, and what they are doing is just a sport, not finding a cure for cancer. That's part of why I like Ben Spies and Troy Bayliss, they don't need to hate anybody to do well, and don't trip over their bottom lip if things don't go as planned. I like the way they've achieved what they have as much as what they've actually achieved. But that's just me, other people actually like Biaggi, go figure......

Mate...as you know...we're all different. Guys like that...they beat themselves up REAL bad not winning. But they'd do that playing cards too. It's just not in them to take getting beat. Other hate it...but hide it better. But I honestly very seriously doubt ANY one at the very top level likes it. Two really mellow cats that are both friends of mine (Stefan Merriman and Bruce Ainstey) are both that cool and laid back as far as you see...and to a certain extent they are...but boy...they aren't good at coming second.

I've played all sorts of sports over the years...and I've enjoyed all of them. Made a lot of good friends over the years doing them too...but my point was and is...that's not why I played them/did them. I got a kick/thrill out of beating them and winning. Still do. I admire anyone than can walk away happy after a hiding. I'm pretty gracious in defeat...but I fucking hate it.

[Cleve]

Yep...third round. Mind you...he set 11 pole posistion for the season on tracks he'd never seen...so doubt it'd matter that much if he hadn't been there. Obviously a very quick learner.

Someone please re post the classic Yamaha tongue in cheek video clip where Ben Spies tells us how he learns tracks so quick by imagining them as an animal shape...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Someone please re post the classic Yamaha tongue in cheek video clip where Ben Spies tells us how he learns tracks so quick by imagining them as an animal shape...

Hehehe..yep...that was my post originally...funny as I thought! I'll see if I can find it for you.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Someone please re post the classic Yamaha tongue in cheek video clip where Ben Spies tells us how he learns tracks so quick by imagining them as an animal shape...

Here ya go mate...

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Sep/090908spies.htm

[slowpoke]

I can (and do) bullshit with the best of them mate!



Mate...as you know...we're all different. Guys like that...they beat themselves up REAL bad not winning. But they'd do that playing cards too. It's just not in them to take getting beat. Other hate it...but hide it better. But I honestly very seriously doubt ANY one at the very top level likes it. Two really mellow cats that are both friends of mine (Stefan Merriman and Bruce Ainstey) are both that cool and laid back as far as you see...and to a certain extent they are...but boy...they aren't good at coming second.

I've played all sorts of sports over the years...and I've enjoyed all of them. Made a lot of good friends over the years doing them too...but my point was and is...that's not why I played them/did them. I got a kick/thrill out of beating them and winning. Still do. I admire anyone than can walk away happy after a hiding. I'm pretty gracious in defeat...but I fucking hate it.

Haha, thanks mate, well said!:niceone:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Haha, thanks mate, well said!:niceone:

Cheers Mate. Now get out there and kick some fucking arse!

[johan]

Go Ben!.............

[Cleve]

Here ya go mate...

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Sep/090908spies.htm

that's the one~! Brilliant. Cheers. Worth a 2nd look.

[Cleve]

Go Ben!.............

ahhh so in SBK sponsor outfit - not Tech 3...

[denill]

Go Ben!.............

Nice pic and <a href=http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Nov/091104-11.htm>Here's the Article:</A>

[denill]

<a href=http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Nov/0911040iax2.htm> Hmmmm, Wots Happening at Ducati?</A>

[Crasherfromwayback]

Go Ben!.............

Loving his leathers!

[White trash]

For me it's gonna be the best race of the season. Spies is gonna OWN!!!

[Crasherfromwayback]

For me it's gonna be the best race of the season. Spies is gonna OWN!!!

I'm standing by my prediction that he'll be the 3rd Yamaha home.

[denill]

<a href=http://www.superbikeplanet.com/getVote.jsp?pn=spies1104>And how would you vote?</A>

I voted for Top Five.

[carbonhed]

Well at least Spies is realistic.

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/154413/1/ben_spies_needs_a_miracle_for_2010_motogp_podium.h tml

Unlike anyone on here.

[Deano]

Well at least Spies is realistic.

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/154413/1/ben_spies_needs_a_miracle_for_2010_motogp_podium.h tml

Unlike anyone on here.

I'm betting that's his race psychology coming in to play. A tactical comment to lull his competitors into a false sense of security.

Plus, unless you're a Mair and talk the BS but back it up - it is better to play yourself down - reduces pressure and then if you don't win, you can say well I never thought I would. But, if (when) you do win, you can be very smug about it.

[White trash]

Well at least Spies is realistic.

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/154413/1/ben_spies_needs_a_miracle_for_2010_motogp_podium.h tml

Unlike anyone on here.
Yeah I read that, but I think it's typical Spies under stating his abilities. He's never been a "mouthy" racer (Unlike me and McDonald).

The fact that he finished as high as sixth on the Suzuki in MotoGP indicates to me that he'll run far more competitively on the Yamaha.

[roogazza]

For me it's gonna be the best race of the season.
Shaping up like it huh, hope weather is good and and a straight fight with no offs.

I'm standing by my prediction that he'll be the 3rd Yamaha home.
That's pretty safe Pete as long as he can get by the older gent at Tech3 ? or that'll make him 4th Yamaha. lol Gaz.
ps we'll chat further on that bike...

[denill]

I'm betting that's his race psychology coming in to play. A tactical comment to lull his competitors into a false sense of security.


Yep, there is no doubt that Spies is deliberately understating his expectations. (And good on him.)

He’s a racer and his mindset is no less than - the top step. :yes:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah I read that, but I think it's typical Spies under stating his abilities. He's never been a "mouthy" racer (Unlike me and McDonald).

The fact that he finished as high as sixth on the Suzuki in MotoGP indicates to me that he'll run far more competitively on the Yamaha.

Eh? Fuck off...I'm as good as I am modest!

Anyhow...if you think he's gonna do the bizzo...get your puny white ass to the TAB...Spies is paying $30.00.

[White trash]

Eh? Fuck off...I'm as good as I am modest!

Anyhow...if you think he's gonna do the bizzo...get your puny white ass to the TAB...Spies is paying $30.00.
"I'm taller than you..."

I'll have to check if I get any pocket money this week although I expect I've already spent it all on Steinlager.......

[Crasherfromwayback]

"I'm taller than you..."

I'll have to check if I get any pocket money this week although I expect I've already spent it all on Steinlager.......

Eh? How much Steinlarger doe $3.00 get?

[White trash]

Half a bottle at the local. I share it with one of the guys from work.

[Badjelly]

ahhh so in SBK sponsor outfit - not Tech 3...

It says here (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/04112009/23/ben-spies-yamaha-yzf-m1-revealed.html) that


He will join Tech 3 Yamaha for the first time during post-season testing next week.

Whatever that means.

It's not unknown for riders outside the factory team to get factory bikes and factory mechanics. :msn-wink:

[Crasherfromwayback]

I share one of the guys from work.

And you called me queer?

[carbonhed]

I don't think Spies is trying to fox his fellow riders... more likely he's trying to manage the overwought expectations of his more "enthusiastic" fans.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80033

Hope crashers got his Jorge Lorenzo and Colin Edwards voodoo dolls ready and an industrial sized container of pins to impale them with.... he'll be needing some kind on "intervention" this weekend.

Should be a great race. Can't imagine Rossi will be wanting Casey to go into the break with another win and with no championship considerations to cramp his style this time... Should be ballistic at the sharp end.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Hope crashers got his Jorge Lorenzo and Colin Edwards voodoo dolls ready and an industrial sized container of pins to impale them with.... he'll be needing some kind on "intervention" this weekend.

Should be a great race. Can't imagine Rossi will be wanting Casey to go into the break with another win and with no championship considerations to cramp his style this time... Should be ballistic at the sharp end.

Mate...for the 3rd time...I said I reckon he'll be the THIRD Yamaha home.

Behind Rossi and Lorenzo...but AHEAD of Edwards and Tosland.

Comprende?

[Dodgyiti]

I have not heard or read anything coming from Ben Spies that shows any big headed show pony crap. Pretty level headed fella it seems
Nice thing to have in Moto GP for a change, hopefully it will counter out the ego that is Marco Wollyheadedwoofter next year. Rossi seems toned down compared to the antics of Lorenzo and Marco

How much difference is in the bikes if Marco can jump on a SBK from a 2fiddy and grab a podium, talented clown that he is.

[carbonhed]

Mate...for the 3rd time...I said I reckon he'll be the THIRD Yamaha home.

Behind Rossi and Lorenzo...but AHEAD of Edwards and Tosland.

Comprende?

To be third at least one and possibly both of those two are going to have to fall off.

Hence the voodoo dolls...

Sorry if it went over your head.

So you still think he's going to sit on that bike for 2.5 hrs and beat Edwards?

Did many of your crashes involve concussions?

[Crasherfromwayback]

To be third at least one and possibly both of those two are going to have to fall off.

Hence the voodoo dolls...

Sorry if it went over your head.

So you still think he's going to sit on that bike for 2.5 hrs and beat Edwards?

Did many of your crashes involve concussions?

Oh I see...you're way smarter than me! Sorry mate. Well I'd say seeing as the first time he rode the R1 superbike at a track he'd never before seen, then fucking near beat Troy Baliss's lap record from the day before that a new bike is NOTHING to him.

I'd say seeing as he beat the Suzuki GP regulars with ease...once even while really sick...and seeing as he'd never really ridden that pile of poo either...would mean that yeah...the M1 will be no real problem.

I think that seeing as he won 11 poles on tracks he's never seen would also mean he's a fast learner. And 14 races in your rookie year? Hell...not even Troy Baliss or Doug Polen could do that despite superior equipment.

So 2.5 hours of practice...at a track he's actually been to...on a competitive bike...I reckon he won't need either Edwards or Toseland to fall off to finish 3rd Yamaha.

By the way..in all of my racing and or street crashes...I've never once been ko'd.

I simply recognize skill/class when I see it first hand. And I've seen Spies race first hand. Have you?

[johan]

Ben is one of a kind for sure!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Will be the third Yamaha home this time. 4th place behind Stoner, Lorenzo and Rossi.


So does this mean you're backing away from the third Yamaha home prediction?

Meh... whatever. Huge talent but flawed style that I doubt will translate well to a Moto GP bike.

Never have...read it again...3rd YAMAHA home.


Do you think he'd be riding like that if he'd gone through 125 and 250 GP's? Course not. Very talented Superbike banger but a Superbike banger nonetheless. Won't be running with the Aliens and his style won't suit a Moto GP bike.

Anyway we'll just have to wait till next week when Edwards will stuff him to the tonsils and every other rider within sight will be trying to do exactly the same to the noob.

Dunno...Stoner came from a dirt track backround. What do you think about that?


Well at least Spies is realistic.

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/154413/1/ben_spies_needs_a_miracle_for_2010_motogp_podium.h tml

Unlike anyone on here.

Oh...so over the top I didn't catch it!


I don't think Spies is trying to fox his fellow riders... more likely he's trying to manage the overwought expectations of his more "enthusiastic" fans.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80033

Hope crashers got his Jorge Lorenzo and Colin Edwards voodoo dolls ready and an industrial sized container of pins to impale them with.... he'll be needing some kind on "intervention" this weekend.

Should be a great race. Can't imagine Rossi will be wanting Casey to go into the break with another win and with no championship considerations to cramp his style this time... Should be ballistic at the sharp end.


To be third at least one and possibly both of those two are going to have to fall off.

Hence the voodoo dolls...

Sorry if it went over your head.

So you still think he's going to sit on that bike for 2.5 hrs and beat Edwards?

Did many of your crashes involve concussions?

Care to put money where your oversized mouth is?


Ben is one of a kind for sure!


Pretty ordinary if you asked coke (sorry carbon) hed. He's not only well smart...but a racing expert. Bet he's beat up all sorts of people on the track.

[XRVrider]

Enough on Spies, what's the general consensus of who will win?

[denill]

Spies completes first MotoGP free practice in Valencia

Wildcard Sterilgarda Yamaha rider Ben Spies got stuck into the first free practice session of the weekend at the Valencia MotoGP today. Despite being Spies' first outing on the Yamaha YZR-M1, the American made good progress, improving by nearly five seconds over the course of the session and finishing just over a second off the top five in 15th position. Spies made few changes to his M1, preferring to get as much track time in as possible as he begins to understand the different handling and power characteristics compared to his championship winning Yamaha YZF-R1 Superbike.

Tomorrow morning will see Spies looking to bring the set up of his bike further in line with his style of riding ahead of his first GP qualifying session on a Yamaha.


Ben Spies, Sterilgarda Yamaha Team - Position: 15thTime: 1'35.052

"It was actually a really good first session. Position wise it wasn't what we are used to but I haven't ridden a GP bike for a year and it's the first time I've set foot on a Yamaha so to be realistically only a second off being in the mix is pretty good. For the first day, and only 20 laps on the bike I'm happy. I'm starting to understand some of the characteristics of the M1. I'm going to keep baby steps and keep chipping away."

Massimo Meregalli - Sterilgarda Yamaha Team Manager

"For the first day here in this world with no experience on this bike or with these tires Ben did as usual a good job, but we didn't expect anything else. For sure just one practice is not enough time to say too much but we cannot say that we are not satisfied. Ben didn't want to use more than one set of tyres, he just wanted to spend some time on his bike and get used to the differences from his superbike. Tomorrow he will make another step, I'm very optimistic as I was all season with him."

[Crasherfromwayback]

Enough on Spies, what's the general consensus of who will win?

Stoner

Lorenzo

Rossi

[NZsarge]

Rossi


Lorenzo


Stoner



:bleh: :laugh:

[White trash]

Spies
Hayden
Melandri

Don't say I didn't fucken warn ya......

[discotex]

Spies
Hayden
Melandri

Don't say I didn't fucken warn ya......

That pigs will fly come Sunday or are you picking the back markers?

Top three:
Stoner
Rossi
Lorenzo

Spies will make a top 10 finish no worries. Top 5 well possible from what I've seen this year.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Spies
Hayden
Melandri

Don't say I didn't fucken warn ya......

You been smoking crack again?

[Shaun]

You been smoking crack again?


And drinking tequila

[carbonhed]

I'd say seeing as he beat the Suzuki GP regulars with ease...once even while really sick...and seeing as he'd never really ridden that pile of poo either...would mean that yeah...the M1 will be no real problem.



Mate the bangs on the head must have caused more damage than we thought because you talk endless shit.

This is what really happened.

He replaced Capirossi who was injured at Donnington... finished fourteenth and was handily beaten by Vermuelen in eighth. That means you were wrong shithead.

At Laguna he finished eighth and was handily beaten again by Vermuelen who was third. That means you were wrong again shithead.

The only place he beat Vermuelen was at Indianapolis. A track he's raced and tested on his whole racing life. A track that was included in the MotoGP calendar for the first time that year, an asshole of a track and a track that was experiencing the tail end of hurricane Ike. It was wet and cold and blowing so bad that the race was red flagged early. Perfect environment for local knowledge to shine through. He finished sixth and Vermuelen ninth.

Did you actually watch any of this you cracker dumbfuck?

Seriously you need to up your meds before your tiny pinhead explodes right off your shoulders.

Love and kisses.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Mate the bangs on the head must have caused more damage than we thought because you talk endless shit.

This is what really happened.

He replaced Capirossi who was injured at Donnington... finished fourteenth and was handily beaten by Vermuelen in eighth. That means you were wrong shithead.

At Laguna he finished eighth and was handily beaten again by Vermuelen who was third. That means you were wrong again shithead.

The only place he beat Vermuelen was at Indianapolis. A track he's raced and tested on his whole racing life. A track that was included in the MotoGP calendar for the first time that year, an asshole of a track and a track that was experiencing the tail end of hurricane Ike. It was wet and cold and blowing so bad that the race was red flagged early. Perfect environment for local knowledge to shine through. He finished sixth and Vermuelen ninth.

Did you actually watch any of this you cracker dumbfuck?

Seriously you need to up your meds before your tiny pinhead explodes right off your shoulders.

Love and kisses.

This is how I see it. He beat Capirossi at Laguna whilst sick as...and both of them at Indy with ease. Why wank on like a retard about poor Vermulen and Capirossi not knowing Indy...and saying Spies has ridden it all his life? What a tossbag. As you may've noticed...top racers like SPIES can learn tracks pretty quick...so no good sucking Vermulens arse by saying the poor guy doesn't know Indy...oh...and it was raining too...boohoo...haven't you noticed Vermulen is suposed to be a wet weather specialist mate?

So seeing as I said he beat the Suzuki regulars with ease (which he did at Indy) and once while he was sick (Capirossi at Laguna)...which part was total shit?

Oh that's right...none of it.

I think you think you're just a bit too good mate. But I bet you're not nearly as good or clever as you think you are.

[XRVrider]

Rossi

Lorenzo

Pedrosa

Stoner falls off battling with Rossi.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Hope crashers got his Jorge Lorenzo and Colin Edwards voodoo dolls ready

Hey Einstein...can you please explain why if I've said he'll finish behind Rossi and Lorenzo...I'll need a Lorenzo voodoo doll for my prediction to come right...oh yeah...Edwards may beat him...so I need Lorenzo to crash!!!

Well lets go right back to basics seeing as it's all you can cope with. I think Spies will beat both Edwards an Toseland. Better for you?


To be third at least one and possibly both of those two are going to have to fall off.

Hence the voodoo dolls...

Sorry if it went over your head.

So you still think he's going to sit on that bike for 2.5 hrs and beat Edwards?

Did many of your crashes involve concussions?

Over my head? You sure you're not now making up stories to cover your sorry ass?

Here's my offer. I'll bet you $100.00 cash he beats Edwards and Toseland.

Let me know if you're keen.

If not...fuck up.

[LBD]

Rossi
Lorenzo
Stoner
:bleh: :laugh:


That pigs will fly come Sunday or are you picking the back markers?

Top three:
Stoner
Rossi
Lorenzo

Spies will make a top 10 finish no worries. Top 5 well possible from what I've seen this year.

Stoner
Lorenzo
Someone esle
Rossi

[White trash]

Mate the bangs on the head must have caused more damage than we thought because you talk endless shit.

This is what really happened.

He replaced Capirossi who was injured at Donnington... finished fourteenth and was handily beaten by Vermuelen in eighth. That means you were wrong shithead.

At Laguna he finished eighth and was handily beaten again by Vermuelen who was third. That means you were wrong again shithead.

The only place he beat Vermuelen was at Indianapolis. A track he's raced and tested on his whole racing life. A track that was included in the MotoGP calendar for the first time that year, an asshole of a track and a track that was experiencing the tail end of hurricane Ike. It was wet and cold and blowing so bad that the race was red flagged early. Perfect environment for local knowledge to shine through. He finished sixth and Vermuelen ninth.

Did you actually watch any of this you cracker dumbfuck?

Seriously you need to up your meds before your tiny pinhead explodes right off your shoulders.

Love and kisses.
Ummm, how the fuck did a discussion on how a new rider to MotoGP will fare become a personal attack and shit slinging match? Ever raced a motorcycle? I mean "raced" not circulated at a track day.

HAve some respect, fuckhead.

(Roll on the infractions....)

[carbonhed]

This is how I see it. Blah blah blah blah.....

I think you think you're just a bit too good mate.

Mate... save it for someone who gives a shit what a banjo plucking, inbred, halfwit thinks

As for me thinking I'm too good... talk about projection. This whole crock of shit stems from the fact that you can't cope with the fact that I disagree with you... but look around you... this is the iterweb thingy... you're going to bump into people who think that you're a fuckwit... on a daily basis in your case... you're just going to have to learn to cope.

As for Friday practice. I don't like that top speed Spies is pulling. He's got a brand spanking engine and Toseland and Edwards are still floundering with the old shit. I didn't think they'd treat Edwards that way so that may prove significant as the weekend evolves.

Rossi
Stoner
Lorenzo

[Crasherfromwayback]

Mate... save it for someone who gives a shit what a banjo plucking, inbred, halfwit thinks

As for me thinking I'm too good... talk about projection. This whole crock of shit stems from the fact that you can't cope with the fact that I disagree with you... but look around you... this is the iterweb thingy... you're going to bump into people who think that you're a fuckwit... on a daily basis in your case... you're just going to have to learn to cope.

As for Friday practice. I don't like that top speed Spies is pulling. He's got a brand spanking engine and Toseland and Edwards are still floundering with the old shit. I didn't think they'd treat Edwards that way so that may prove significant as the weekend evolves.

Rossi
Stoner
Lorenzo

And who says he's got a brand new engine knobjockey? And why wouldn't Edwards and Toseland have new engines too After all..it's the last race of the season...the 'x' amount of engines won't really matter at the last round if they blow a couple up?

You're such an expert about racing...don't you know that drive out of corners = top speed down the straights? Oh that's right...your mum has never let you take her 675 near a track eh?

Prove some things to me (us) mate...or as I said...fuck off for good.

1: How many times has Spies raced/ridden/tested at Indy in the layout it was in for the GP.

2: Prove to me (us) Spies has a better (fresher) motor than Edwards/Toseland.

I could be wrong...but I'm starting to think that you may be

A: Short.

B: Gay but not yet ready to admit it.

C: Ten years old, short and gay.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Mate... save it for someone who gives a shit what a banjo plucking, inbred, halfwit thinks


By the way...I can't help but notice you're full of facts...bravado and hot air until someone asks you to put money where your oversized mouth is.

You're that sure of yourself...that you forgot to mention you've been offered the chance to win money due to your superior knowledge/brain capacity.

Bit like most couch racers. Big mouth...small cock.

[White trash]

By the way...I can't help but notice you're full of facts...bravado and hot air until someone asks you to put money where your oversized mouth is.

You're that sure of yourself...that you forgot to mention you've been offered the chance to win money due to your superior knowledge/brain capacity.

Bit like most couch racers. Big mouth...small cock.
Disrespectful small cock......

[Fatjim]

The official word on the subject.


http://www.motogpnews.com/home.php?pageid=1382&heading=Toseland+vs+Spies

[White trash]

Fucken MotoGP News dot com, best racing site there is.

"But it's not just Toseland who's under-pressure. In a season for JT where he's offered so little and still delivered less his long-time annoying manager Roger Burnett has had to face the prospect of even less people listening to him.
"I've been spouting my curly head off continuously all season with my usual bombardment of insignificant drivel but everyone seems to be ignoring me. I think WSBK will be a fresh start for us as most people there will have forgotten how irritating and pointless I actually am."

Gold.

[carbonhed]

And who says he's got a brand new engine knobjockey? And why wouldn't Edwards and Toseland have new engines too After all..it's the last race of the season...the 'x' amount of engines won't really matter at the last round if they blow a couple up?

You're such an expert about racing...don't you know that drive out of corners = top speed down the straights? Oh that's right...your mum has never let you take her 675 near a track eh?

Prove some things to me (us) mate...or as I said...fuck off for good.

1: How many times has Spies raced/ridden/tested at Indy in the layout it was in for the GP.

2: Prove to me (us) Spies has a better (fresher) motor than Edwards/Toseland.

I could be wrong...but I'm starting to think that you may be

A: Short.

B: Gay but not yet ready to admit it.

C: Ten years old, short and gay.

Man this must be what it's like having one of those annoying little dogs that keeps trying to hump your leg. Can't you just go back to yer kinfolk and fuck your sister?

I think Colin Edwards will beat Ben Spies in Valencia on Sunday. I'm abjectly sorry that I disagree with your awesomeness but... I just do. Where I got the idea that I was entitled to an opinion I don't know but I've found that the more an asshole like you tries to bully me out of it the more I'm determined to keep it . Plus it's fun watching you go batshit.

Maybe we could just wait for the event to unfold and if I'm wrong... well bravo to you and if I'm right... presumably you'll have to go out and kill yourself.

As for betting with you, really you're just not picking up on the fact that I don't want to be your friend, we haven't hit it off at all and the thought of taking your money or having any further contact with you just appalls me.

Have a nice night.

[johan]

... Can't you just go back to yer kinfolk and fuck your sister?
...


Wow, where do you get your inspiration from!?
Kiwibiker at its finest...

Back on topic, FP2 starts at 9.55pm. Tune in!

[BMWST?]

My bet? Spies will stand on the podium.

Toseland will cry his eyes out.

Edwards will give someone "the shocker"

Rossi will say "For-me eet wassa veddy-good-race...."

an my ahhhh riddum was veddy good

[BMWST?]

WTF? You do know he's already raced a MotoGP bike and certainly didnt look out of place. :rockon: Guess it depends how tired those Tech3 engines are now for the last race of the year. No doubt Spies has a nice fresh new motor slotted in. Top 5 for Spies is certainly not out of the question. :scooter:

i would say he will be fighting with edwards ,dovisioso,and de angelis.

FP1 times
1 27 Casey STONER AUS Ducati 1'32.813
2 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Yamaha 1'33.195
3 3 Dani PEDROSA SPA Honda 1'33.241
4 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Yamaha 1'33.499
5 14 Randy DE PUNIET FRA Honda 1'33.910
6 15 Alex DE ANGELIS RSM Honda 1'34.106
7 5 Colin EDWARDS USA Yamaha 1'34.123
8 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSOITA Honda 1'34.382
9 65 Loris CAPIROSSI ITA Suzuki 1'34.427
10 69 Nicky HAYDEN USA Ducati 1'34.462
11 36 Mika KALLIO FIN Ducati 1'34.696
12 33 Marco MELANDRI ITA Kawasaki 1'34.859
13 52 James TOSELAND GBR Yamaha 1'34.865
14 24 Toni ELIAS SPA Honda 1'34.873
15 11 Ben SPIES USA Yamaha 1'35.052
16 7 Chris VERMEULEN AUS Suzuki 1'35.131
17 41 Gabor TALMACSI HUN Honda 1'35.258
18 44 Aleix ESPARGARO SPA Ducati 1'35.458

[R6_kid]

I'm hoping Collins will place 5th or 6th. He's been pretty consistent all season and even managed a podium - I wonder how much faster he would have been on a proper factory bike?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Man this must be what it's like having one of those annoying little dogs that keeps trying to hump your leg. Can't you just go back to yer kinfolk and fuck your sister?

As for betting with you, really you're just not picking up on the fact that I don't want to be your friend, we haven't hit it off at all and the thought of taking your money or having any further contact with you just appalls me.

Have a nice night.

Well well well. My sister is a well talented musician that made more money from singing than you'll ever make from sucking cock.

Betting? You think I want to be your friend? I think I'd rather eat cat shit with a knitting needle than be your *friend*.

I bet you've got no friends. I bet you're an angry...short...fucked up loser that is either on the dole...or sucks cock for a living.

By the way...I dare you to say those things about my sister in front of her...I'll bet you a thousand dollars cash she could smash your face in too.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I think Colin Edwards will beat Ben Spies in Valencia on Sunday. I'm abjectly sorry that I disagree with your awesomeness but... I just do. Where I got the idea that I was entitled to an opinion I don't know but I've found that the more an asshole like you tries to bully me out of it the more I'm determined to keep it . Plus it's fun watching you go batshit.



Cool.

I think it's great that you think the guy who's balls you wanna suck will beat Spies.

I also think it's absolutely super duper gay old time you think that.

When did I say you couldn't have an opinion?

Are you new to motorcycles?

How long have you been riding?

Have you been riding your bike all this time?

Do you have a full licence?

Have you ever raced bikes?

Do you know what it's like to race bikes?

Do you know what it's like to risk your life to beat the next cunt?

If not...how come you're such an expert about all things racing?

Looking forward to your answers.

I reckon you're a fucking pussy.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Man this must be what it's like having one of those annoying little dogs that keeps trying to hump your leg. Can't you just go back to yer kinfolk and fuck your sister?


Hey expert! Just remembered that I brought an XR 1200 home for the weekend. I know you don't want to ever love me...and yeah... I know you're a lot better than me. But hey...why don't we go for a ride tomorrow just because? Lets do it!!!??? I can't wait to see how mucho you are and how well you ride...cause I reckon you're the man.

8018 666.

Looking forward to it.

Pete

[Fatjim]

I bet you're an angry...short....



Fuck, you got to be drunk spouting that shit off! lmfao!!!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Fuck, you got to be drunk spouting that shit off! lmfao!!!

Actually...sober and looking forward to it. 5' 10" and only 75 kgs.There ya go.

Do you wanna join Carbonring and myself for a wee *ride*?:sunny:

[Fatjim]

For a threesome. I figure I'd stick out about, being the only one over 5'5".

[XRVrider]

Dudes, this has got to be the closest thing I seen to an internet fight, lots of crap talk, and well, its on a computer so all the HARD MAN words look a bit well, empty. Who cares really, Rossi is world Champ, season over for results, so who comes 3 Yammy or 5th or 6th is really almost irrelevant.

As for a sister beating someone up cos shes a good singer, or betting when you do or dont want a bet... you can do this all day and not get anywhere. Crasher you bait peeps, its cool, just dont expect not to get shit, you aint NZ's best rider, fact, so chill man. Wait for the real race cos practice counts for feck all. Yes I have put my life on the line, it dont make me better than anyone else.

[White trash]

Holy fuck, and I turned the computer off last night because I thought the entertainment was gone.

I notice Spies is getting quicker still.

He's gonna thump Edwards. Fact.

Crasher is gonna give Carbon a little cuddle when they meet. Possibly.

Carbon knows everything there is to know about insulting people because they dont like his point of view. Fairly likely.

All those MotoGP cunts are lucky as hell I'm not on the same track as them. More than likely.

[White trash]

Hey expert! Just remembered that I brought an XR 1200 home for the weekend.

Let me tell YOU a bit about experts mate. They're very wary of Skirster steering locks.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Holy fuck, and I turned the computer off last night because I thought the entertainment was gone.

I notice Spies is getting quicker still.

He's gonna thump Edwards. Fact.

Crasher is gonna give Carbon a little cuddle when they meet. Possibly.

Carbon knows everything there is to know about insulting people because they dont like his point of view. Fairly likely.

All those MotoGP cunts are lucky as hell I'm not on the same track as them. More than likely.

I'm enjoying the windups with Carbon. Go Spies!


Let me tell YOU a bit about experts mate. They're very wary of Skirster steering locks.


Hah...so as to not ride off with the cunting steering locked (again)..I didn't lock it!

Fuck that...my wrist is only slowing coming right now after surgery from the last time.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Let me tell YOU a bit about experts mate. They're very wary of Skirster steering locks.

Hey pal...Spies is up to $70.00 at the TAB. Not that he'll win...but for sure he's getting quicker!

[White trash]

Hey pal...Spies is up to $70.00 at the TAB. Not that he'll win...but for sure he's getting quicker!
Might just have to pinch the missus credit card and through 20 bucks at the TAB then I think.

Cheers for the heads up.

[denill]

And there's the 3rd American (Hayden) in, I think, his best qualifying spot ever on the Ducati.

Could he finish his season on a high note? :woohoo:

[carbonhed]

I'm enjoying the windups with Carbon. Go Spies!


You're a sick, sick man.

Reading through this trainwreck of a thread this morning was like waking up with a pounding hangover alongside some dog faced old harridan that you'd never seen before and wondering just what the fuck you'd got up to the night before.

I'm going to withdraw to my racing couch with a beer and a few of my short, fat, gay friends and watch Qualifying. Go Edwards.

Assholes! :chase:

[Crasherfromwayback]

You're a sick, sick man.

Reading through this trainwreck of a thread this morning was like waking up with a pounding hangover alongside some dog faced old harridan that you'd never seen before and wondering just what the fuck you'd got up to the night before.

I'm going to withdraw to my racing couch with a beer and a few of my short, fat, gay friends and watch Qualifying. Go Edwards.

Assholes! :chase:

Don't drink so many that you nod off and miss the action!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Fuck, you got to be drunk spouting that shit off! lmfao!!!

And your point is?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Dudes, this has got to be the closest thing I seen to an internet fight, lots of crap talk, and well, its on a computer so all the HARD MAN words look a bit well, empty. Who cares really, Rossi is world Champ, season over for results, so who comes 3 Yammy or 5th or 6th is really almost irrelevant.

As for a sister beating someone up cos shes a good singer, or betting when you do or dont want a bet... you can do this all day and not get anywhere. Crasher you bait peeps, its cool, just dont expect not to get shit, you aint NZ's best rider, fact, so chill man. Wait for the real race cos practice counts for feck all. Yes I have put my life on the line, it dont make me better than anyone else.

Well funny thing is this...I tend to lose my rag easily...so does Carbon. To me..that's all good. He PM'd me...I said I'd buy him a beer and I would.

What is the internet if not a safe place to let of steam. Better than doing so in a pub and having a glass smashed in ya face!

And you putting your life on the line? Hell...while it may not make you better than anyone else...it does make you someone in my eyes that has balls.

Egos aside (and I've always fessed up to having an out of control one)..anyone that has balls is good by me. Better than wishing you had them.

[White trash]

Well funny thing is this...I tend to lose my rag easily...so does Carbon. To me..that's all good. He PM'd me...I said I'd buy him a beer and I would.

What is the internet if not a safe place to let of steam. Better than doing so in a pub and having a glass smashed in ya face!

And you putting your life on the line? Hell...while it may not make you better than anyone else...it does make you someone in my eyes that has balls.

Egos aside (and I've always fessed up to having an out of control one)..anyone that has balls is good by me. Better than wishing you had them.
What a pair of fucken queer-boys.

Kissy-kissy :)

[Crasherfromwayback]

What a pair of fucken queer-boys.

Kissy-kissy :)

There was no tongue involved though

[gav]

In the morning warm up Spies ended up 5th fastest, 3rd Yamaha, and 3rd American!! :Oops:
Stoner, Rossi, Edwards, Hayden and Spies top 5.
Then Lorenzo with Pedrosa down in 11th!
http://www.motogp.com/en/Results+Statistics/2009/VAL/MotoGP/WUP

[Crasherfromwayback]

Mate the bangs on the head must have caused more damage than we thought because you talk endless shit.


Did you see the race?

You were 100% more correct than me...I conceed defeat!

[slowpoke]

Spies will definitely be on Edward's Christmas card list.

Nothing too spectacular, just a "keep my nose clean, learn as much as I can" type effort from the young fella. I reckon he had a bit left in him, he certainly didn't have the bike as outta shape as he did the R1, just real smart riding with everything to lose and nothing to win.

[White trash]

Well fuck don't I feel like a dick.

In saying that, who would have predicted Edwards to be that consistant the whole race. I was interested in the copmentators comment re: Spies being concerned about the first half of the race as he had trouble coming to grips (no pun) with the outright grip of the new tyres.

Interestingly, come half race, he pulled finger and went good. I think there's probably three other riders in the field with the ability to get quicker as the tyres and handling goes off.

Well done Mr Spies, I'm looking forward to 2010 more than ever.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Well done Mr Spies, I'm looking forward to 2010 more than ever.

He did his fastest lap on the last lap...always a good sign!

I think he's smart enough to simply keep chipping away until he's at the pointy end...which I don't think will take all that long.

Indeed...bring on 2010 already.

[roogazza]

[QUOTE=slowpoke;1129503758
"keep my nose clean, learn as much as I can" [/QUOTE]

Mmmmmmm, subtle message for all in that. I was hoping for a real fight , but the new (smiling ) Stoner buggered that up.
Pedrosa looks great out in front , does he not?
The apprentices' can have another go at the G.O.A.T. next year, bet they'll be happy to see him retire ? G.

[denill]

The apprentices' can have another go at the G.O.A.T. next year, bet they'll be happy to see him retire ? G.


Ummm, what's the "G.O.A.T." Gaz??

[White trash]

Ummm, what's the "G.O.A.T." Gaz??
It's the Greatest Of All Time but is actualy a nic-name coined for Ricky Carmichael

[denill]

It's the Greatest Of All Time but is actualy a nic-name coined for Ricky Carmichael

Oh thanks. I remember now........

Why didn't you just say "Stoner" then Gaz, lol. :bash:

[roogazza]

Oh thanks. I remember now........
Why didn't you just say "Stoner" then Gaz, lol. :bash:

haha, nice to see your boy happy, hope he maintains that when the pressure comes back next year ?
Rossi must be thinking 'oh christ, I've got to this again next year, with youngsters biting at my bum '? (and no more gay jokes ! ) lol

ps Spies finished exactly where I guessed, which is what it is, isn't it , just guessing..... Gaz.

[johan]

Rossi doesn't like too much competition in the same garage:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/motorbikes/8349264.stm

Or is it just more "Italian journalism"...

[discotex]

Rossi doesn't like too much competition in the same garage:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/motorbikes/8349264.stm

Or is it just more "Italian journalism"...

He really did say that. I download the BBC coverage and he said that in the pre-race interview. Cheeky eh.

Of course Stoner and Rossi in the same garage isn't much better is it... I guess Rossi would like to beat Stoner on the same bike to prove a point (especially after Stoner wins the championship next year).

But perhaps Stoner would give Ducati the "me or him" thing too. I can't see Ducati taking Rossi over Stoner if it came to it. Perhaps Rossi and Burgess should go to Suzuki and help them make a decent GP bike ;)

[denill]

Spies finished exactly where I guessed, which is what it is, isn't it , just guessing..... Gaz.

Yeah, good guess - better than my 'rush of blood to the head' of top 5.

But hey 7th is pretty bloody terrific and no one would bet on Spies not being WC. Was Rossi turning in those sorta results in his early days??

[carbonhed]

I conceed defeat!

Thank fook for that. I couldn't take any more.

Still a monster performance from Spies though after 2.5hrs on the bike. I can imagine him being on the podium next year. Once he got a sniff of Dovi's group it was like watching the Terminator.

Still if I picture Stoner and Rossi at Phillip Island, Godlike and really on it, I can't for the life of me see him being within pissing distance.

What did you think of Stoner's explanation..."was the grid stategy wot dun it"?

[Badjelly]

What did you think of Stoner's explanation..."was the grid stategy wot dun it"?

What is a grid strategy, anyway?

[johan]

What is a grid strategy, anyway?

I found this explanation on Ducati's grid strategy... I don't know if it's accurate (dodgy translation?)



""Ducati has a special grid strategy, a procedure that allows their riders to complete the race without fear of running out of fuel.

The goal is warm the tires as soon as possible and avoid an excessive fuel consumption. The rider heads out on the spare bike and brings the tires up to temperature as soon as possible with no worry about fuel, because the bike he’s using will not be used in the race.

Instead of heading to the grid, the Ducati rider heads back to the pitlane and changes to his race bike and leaves the lane and rides back on track at a very low speed to minimize fuel consumption. Once on the grid the tires are replaced with those that have been brought up to the right temperature on the spare bike and kept up with tire warmers.

Unfortunately for Casey Stoner, the usual strategy didn’t work today at Valencia, because the Aussie was so psyched up, that he got on his race bike instead of his spare, didn’t return to the pitlane and his tires were simply cold.

Sometimes explanations are much more complicated than simply admitting we fucked up.""

http://www.gpone.com/news/News.asp?NNews=5867

[White trash]

I found this explanation on Ducati's grid strategy... I don't know if it's accurate (dodgy translation?)



""Ducati has a special grid strategy, a procedure that allows their riders to complete the race without fear of running out of fuel.

The goal is warm the tires as soon as possible and avoid an excessive fuel consumption. The rider heads out on the spare bike and brings the tires up to temperature as soon as possible with no worry about fuel, because the bike he’s using will not be used in the race.

Instead of heading to the grid, the Ducati rider heads back to the pitlane and changes to his race bike and leaves the lane and rides back on track at a very low speed to minimize fuel consumption. Once on the grid the tires are replaced with those that have been brought up to the right temperature on the spare bike and kept up with tire warmers.

Unfortunately for Casey Stoner, the usual strategy didn’t work today at Valencia, because the Aussie was so psyched up, that he got on his race bike instead of his spare, didn’t return to the pitlane and his tires were simply cold.

Sometimes explanations are much more complicated than simply admitting we fucked up.""

http://www.gpone.com/news/News.asp?NNews=5867
WTF???

Unsure how they work out that they can get back into the pits, do a real slow lap and still be on the grid before the lights go out. Lol.

What a crock

[Warr]

I found this explanation on Ducati's grid strategy... I don't know if it's accurate (dodgy translation?)
............
http://www.gpone.com/news/News.asp?NNews=5867

Here is the whole page translated Unfortunately Stoner (http://sysurl.systranet.com/?NNews=5867&systrangui=local%3B%2Fsnetcom/web&systranuid=aHR0cC13d3cuZ3BvbmUuY29tL25ld3MvTmV3cy5 hc3AvaXRfZW4=&systranbanner=1)

It sure produced a different race !
u tube footage not in english but the visuals say it all :) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHGY44hjNHQ)

[Badjelly]

Here is the whole page translated Unfortunately Stoner (http://sysurl.systranet.com/?NNews=5867&systrangui=local%3B%2Fsnetcom/web&systranuid=aHR0cC13d3cuZ3BvbmUuY29tL25ld3MvTmV3cy5 hc3AvaXRfZW4=&systranbanner=1)

Loosely translated



...Why hasn't Casey used the strategy, also previewed? And simple, because … she is Casey, it is formidable but he is like the Devil of the Tasmania of the comic strips, when it is loaded and ready to the shot, does not feel more nobody!...

:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

[Warr]

Loosely translated

… she is Casey

:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

You dont think that relating to Careys lack of facial hair ?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Thank fook for that. I couldn't take any more.

Still a monster performance from Spies though after 2.5hrs on the bike. I can imagine him being on the podium next year. Once he got a sniff of Dovi's group it was like watching the Terminator.

Still if I picture Stoner and Rossi at Phillip Island, Godlike and really on it, I can't for the life of me see him being within pissing distance.

What did you think of Stoner's explanation..."was the grid stategy wot dun it"?

hahaha...Stoner had a brain fade I'd say. Aye...Spies did good...but obviously you and I will never agree on how he's gonna go. The reason why I'm such a fan of the boy is that I was at Laguna Seca in '07' when he and Mladin went toe to toe and flat out smoked everyone else so badly...it was embarrassing for them. Spies was/is just like Mladin...stretching the fuckout of the throttle cable for 20 odd laps..all over the bike and charging like there's no tomorrow.

It's the same reason I'm such a fan of Stoners. To me...he's the hardest charger out there. To see him on a flying lap is unreal. This year at Phillip Island in the wet qualifying session...I think he was clocked at 320 clicks down the main chute...and there was standing water on the track not just dampness. Sick. A freak. Mind you...Mr Rossi is also a freak...but will he beat Ago's all time race win record before he calls it quits?

[discotex]

Top three:
Stoner
Rossi
Lorenzo

Spies will make a top 10 finish no worries. Top 5 well possible from what I've seen this year.

Ok so I picked the wrong crasher but other than that I'd say I nailed that prediction (figured it'd be Pedrosa that crashed because he hasn't for a few races now lol).

[gav]

Wonder how fast Stoner would be on that M1? Or even on a Honda maybe? He was pretty quick as a rookie on a customer spec bike with customer Michelins, I'd imagine that HRC must be keeping a watching brief at the goings on at Ducati. Stoner on Bridgestones on the #1 HRC bike would be a pretty tough combo. Pedrosa and Dovi are both only on one year contracts. 2011 could be very interesting!!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Wonder how fast Stoner would be on that M1? Or even on a Honda maybe? He was pretty quick as a rookie on a customer spec bike with customer Michelins, I'd imagine that HRC must be keeping a watching brief at the goings on at Ducati. Stoner on Bridgestones on the #1 HRC bike would be a pretty tough combo. Pedrosa and Dovi are both only on one year contracts. 2011 could be very interesting!!

I'm with you there Gav. He was carving it up on a satelite Honda in his first year better than any of these other chappies have since. I bet he'll be offered a shitload by the factories come 2011.

[carbonhed]

hahaha...Stoner had a brain fade I'd say. Aye...Spies did good...but obviously you and I will never agree on how he's gonna go. The reason why I'm such a fan of the boy is that I was at Laguna Seca in '07' when he and Mladin went toe to toe and flat out smoked everyone else so badly...it was embarrassing for them. Spies was/is just like Mladin...stretching the fuckout of the throttle cable for 20 odd laps..all over the bike and charging like there's no tomorrow.

It's the same reason I'm such a fan of Stoners. To me...he's the hardest charger out there. To see him on a flying lap is unreal. This year at Phillip Island in the wet qualifying session...I think he was clocked at 320 clicks down the main chute...and there was standing water on the track not just dampness. Sick. A freak. Mind you...Mr Rossi is also a freak...but will he beat Ago's all time race win record before he calls it quits?

Did Spies lose a single dogfight in WSBK when the R1 was healthy? Must have been good training with Mladin. He doesn't seem to bother with that defensive lines baloney, just Warp factor 9 and "come and have a go if you think you're hard enough". Rossi seems to have a similar approach.

I don't think Rossi will beat Ago's record. There's going to be trouble at Yamaha next year. Would you let Lorenzo go when Rossi's in the twilight of his career? There's too many good young guys hammering at the walls. If Spies gets in the mix, maybe one of the 250 GP guys hits the ground running, it's just getting harder and harder.

Has Pedrosa ever won a race that wasn't as boring as fuck to watch? Get holeshot, hope some bastard like Elias balks the chasers, get 1.5 sec gap over first two laps, settle into rhythm, ride to finish. Drives me mental. They should bring out the safety car five laps in. He'd never win another race :yes:

Can't imagine Ducati letting Stoner go... at any price. Nobody else has even looked like setting the world on fire with that bike. Can't imagine Rossi going there for exactly the same reason. Stoner on the other hand could probably podium anything. Shame he's such a fucking plank. The thought of having to listen to his drivel endlessly when Rossi retires is unbearable. Still there's always WSBK, should be great next year, can't wait.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Can't imagine Ducati letting Stoner go... at any price. Nobody else has even looked like setting the world on fire with that bike. Can't imagine Rossi going there for exactly the same reason. Stoner on the other hand could probably podium anything. Shame he's such a fucking plank. The thought of having to listen to his drivel endlessly when Rossi retires is unbearable. Still there's always WSBK, should be great next year, can't wait.

I guess it's more if Stoner wants to go rather than Ducati keeping him.

For Rossi to sign with Ducati...it could wipe mud all over a fantastic and amazing career if he (like all the others) didn't gell with it.

If Aoyama rides the RCV like he rode his RS 250 I'd say he'll go great guns.

Fuzzy wuzzy will be like Lorenzo and go fast as fuck and crash a lot.

All in all...a lot to look forward to.

Superbikes? The only thing that made me watch them this years was Spies. Interesting that Mladin said right from the start that Spies would win the title with two rounds spare. He would've if not for some dnf's that were no fault of his.

To me...shows us that if that's what Mladin had wanted to do...he could've kicked arse big time.

[carbonhed]

Superbikes? The only thing that made me watch them this years was Spies. Interesting that Mladin said right from the start that Spies would win the title with two rounds spare. He would've if not for some dnf's that were no fault of his.

To me...shows us that if that's what Mladin had wanted to do...he could've kicked arse big time.

Nah. If Haga hadn't hid that fucking bird and crashed. Ridden injured and crashed. Ridden even injurder and crashed again. Spies wouldn't have won fuck all. :yes:

Weird season though. No Honda till switch to Ohlins. No Suzuki full stop. Corser on BMW... zero impact. Biaggi not making the most of the Aprilia. I think it'll be better next year. Then there's Moto 2.

Actually I got the most pleasure out of the 600's WSS this year. Best noise and closest racing. Crutchdog rules.

[gav]

That to me, was the biggest shame that Mat Mladin didnt pack up his US Yoshi Suzuki team and go and shake up WSBK, about 3 years ago (at least). It always suprised me that someone like Mladin who appears so focused and driven, never had the urge to go back to Europe. He can't have been happy with the way he was treated in his 500GP career, signs a 3 year contract with the understanding that the first year was a learning year and then gets the boot at the end of the first season.

Another shame is we won't see another epic 250 race!
Moto2 has a lot to live up to after that season and final race.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Nah. If Haga hadn't hid that fucking bird and crashed. Ridden injured and crashed. Ridden even injurder and crashed again. Spies wouldn't have won fuck all. :yes:

Weird season though. No Honda till switch to Ohlins. No Suzuki full stop. Corser on BMW... zero impact. Biaggi not making the most of the Aprilia. I think it'll be better next year. Then there's Moto 2.

Actually I got the most pleasure out of the 600's WSS this year. Best noise and closest racing. Crutchdog rules.

Aye...poor old Nori. I really hope he wins the title next year!

Moto 2? Me...I love the 250 two smokers and will miss them.

[XRVrider]

Rossi

Lorenzo

Pedrosa

Stoner falls off battling with Rossi.

That closest pick then? Stoner did fall, just earlier than hoped :laugh: Just Pedrosa in the wrong spot... we shouldve expected he had it in em to win, bit hard to predict that though. Spies will come on good, but a long road to the very top, jeez they are fecking good huh.

[Crasherfromwayback]

That closest pick then? Stoner did fall, just earlier than hoped :laugh: Just Pedrosa in the wrong spot... we shouldve expected he had it in em to win, bit hard to predict that though. Spies will come on good, but a long road to the very top, jeez they are fecking good huh.

As Spies said himself...they're the best racers in the world. That's why I've always preferred watching it to superbikes. To me...and I know it's only my opinion...but man...there just seems to be something so sick and fast about those fuckers.

I've been to lots of superbike meetings...but I've never been in awe. You go to a GP...and feel VERY inadequate as a rider.

[slowpoke]

Nobody else has even looked like setting the world on fire with that bike.

Not quite true. Capirossi won back to back races in '05 and scored 3 pole positions in a row at one stage. He was leading the World Championship after 6 rounds in '06 until that massive first corner crash with Gibernau at Catalunya put him in hospital. He lost too many valuable points while trying to battle on through injury but it was a case of "what might have been".

[Badjelly]

Nobody else has even looked like setting the world on fire with that bike.


Not quite true. Capirossi won back to back races in '05 and scored 3 pole positions in a row at one stage. He was leading the World Championship after 6 rounds in '06 until that massive first corner crash with Gibernau at Catalunya put him in hospital. He lost too many valuable points while trying to battle on through injury but it was a case of "what might have been".

That was the 990: different bike. The 800s were introduced in 2007, the year Stoner won the championship.

[denill]

Can't imagine Ducati letting Stoner go... at any price. Nobody else has even looked like setting the world on fire with that bike. Can't imagine Rossi going there for exactly the same reason. Stoner on the other hand could probably podium anything.

MotoGP politics?

Read: "Under Suppo's management Ducati signed Casey Stoner and won the 2007 world championship - although Italian media sources have claimed for months that tensions between Stoner and Suppo were becoming unmanageable."

Maybe it was Suppo or Stoner gone at the first opportunity?

[denill]

<a href=http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Nov/091109vtestday1.htm>So - How Fast Were They Yesterday?</A>

[Crasherfromwayback]

<a href=http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Nov/091109vtestday1.htm>So - How Fast Were They Yesterday?</A>

Our man Spies is getting faster each and every time he rides the thing by the look.

[Matt Bleck]

Rossi: It's me or Lorenzo at Yamaha in 2011! (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/154480/1/rossi_its_me_or_lorenzo_at_yamaha_in_2011.html)

During an interview with the BBC, Valentino Rossi warned that Yamaha must choose between keeping him or team-mate Jorge Lorenzo for the 2011 MotoGP season.

"Yamaha have to decide between me and Jorge for 2011," he said. "I have a great option to join Ducati."

Lorenzo has been Rossi's closest rival this year, only losing the title to the nine time world champion at the penultimate round of the season.

Rossi has repeatedly stated his displeasure at developing a bike that will also benefit his closest championship rival. 2009 marks the first time that Rossi's team-mate has finished second in the championship.

Both Rossi and Lorenzo will remain at Fiat Yamaha next season.

[Cleve]

Rossi and his brilliant mind fuck games continue. This is all about that.
Watch him target Stoner and Lorenzo in different and cunning ways before and during 2010 season.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Rossi and his brilliant mind fuck games continue. This is all about that.
Watch him target Stoner and Lorenzo in different and cunning ways before and during 2010 season.

I'd rather see Yamaha say "Sure then...we'll let Lorenzo go...meet your new team mate...Casey Stoner"

[White trash]

I know he's "The Doctor", but FFS, who in this world is actually arrogant enough to say to their employer "Get rid of that guy, he's number two in the world and I don't wanna be on his team." (Other than Crasher of course....)

I hope Rossi DOES go to Ducati. Stoner will wipe the floor with him on the Ducati and Mr Spies will arse fuck him all over the track riding in the Fiat Yamaha team.

[Reckless]

I know he's "The Doctor", but FFS, who in this world is actually arrogant enough to say to their employer "Get rid of that guy, he's number two in the world and I don't wanna be on his team."

It may not be arrogance depends if he is contributing more than 70% to the development of the bike and Lorenzo doing very little but riding in on his coat tails, then he has a case. Only the team knows though. I guess we will find out sometime before 2011? LOL!!

I actually thought he came across really well in that interview in the BBC broadcaster. Not big headed at all, I like him, a true champion, thought she did a great job over the whole show to. Never downloaded the BBC torrent before but I will next time.



I hope Rossi DOES go to Ducati. Stoner will wipe the floor with him on the Ducati and Mr Spies will arse fuck him all over the track riding in the Fiat Yamaha team.

I see your not a Rossi fan LOL! I'd like to see him go to Suzuki (or someone) and let him bring another challenger into the mix at the top! Be bloody good if Aprilia entered an 800 V4 or Kawasaki came up. Ah well that's not gonna happen. What ever happens no one can take the 9 world titles off him!

BTW: I like Stoner but he couldn't have fucked up much bigger than throwing it down the track on the warmup! LOL!! Then to post the fastest times in testing. His team sure have been really good to him over this season!

[Crasherfromwayback]

BTW: I like Stoner but he couldn't have fucked up much bigger than throwing it down the track on the warmup! LOL!! Then to post the fastest times in testing. His team sure have been really good to him over this season!

His team would wanna be good to him...ain't no one else gonna win the championship for them on that thing.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I know he's "The Doctor", but FFS, who in this world is actually arrogant enough to say to their employer "Get rid of that guy, he's number two in the world and I don't wanna be on his team." (Other than Crasher of course....)

I hope Rossi DOES go to Ducati. Stoner will wipe the floor with him on the Ducati and Mr Spies will arse fuck him all over the track riding in the Fiat Yamaha team.

You called?

That's where you're wrong though matey. I'm arrogant enough to say "sign the fucker...and any fucker...I'll whip his arse anyway"

[johan]

snip

Be bloody good if Aprilia entered an 800 V4 or Kawasaki came up. Ah well that's not gonna happen. What ever happens no one can take the 9 world titles off him!

snip



Hasn't it been proposed to go back to 1000cc in 2011?

[pritch]

Hard to decide between Stoner and Bautista for the fuck up of the year.
One bins it on the warm up lap, and one bins it after the finish.

I guess a points decision to Bautista, he totalled his bike.

[discotex]

<a href=http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Nov/091109vtestday1.htm>So - How Fast Were They Yesterday?</A>

Nicky Haden seems to have figured out how to ride the Ducati... Or at least how not to ride it. Might make a few podiums next year if he keeps this up.


Never downloaded the BBC torrent before but I will next time.

BBC kicks arse. I watched the aussie round on Sky and was shocked how shite the commentators were. Talking utter crap and missing passes then being surprised someone was in front. Shocking stuff really.

[roogazza]

I'd rather see Yamaha say "Sure then...we'll let Lorenzo go...meet your new team mate...Casey Stoner"



I hope Rossi DOES go to Ducati. Stoner will wipe the floor with him on the Ducati and Mr Spies will arse fuck him all over the track riding in the Fiat Yamaha team.

and here's me thinking that you two would be quiet for a while after Valencia ??? :corn:

[Crasherfromwayback]

and here's me thinking that you two would be quiet for a while after Valencia ??? :corn:

Never! Seems to me a lot of people reckon Stoner is a whinger...but if you ask me...Rossi does more than anyone. Whaaaaa...I want bridgestone tyres...whaaaa...I want a wall between me and my team mate. Whaaaa...I wanna pick a much weaker team mate....whaaaa...I want my mummas titties

[slowpoke]

Not quite true. Capirossi won back to back races in '05 and scored 3 pole positions in a row at one stage. He was leading the World Championship after 6 rounds in '06 until that massive first corner crash with Gibernau at Catalunya put him in hospital. He lost too many valuable points while trying to battle on through injury but it was a case of "what might have been".


That was the 990: different bike. The 800s were introduced in 2007, the year Stoner won the championship.

Not really, I think only Honda started with a clean sheet of paper, the rest were/are pretty much just evolutions of the 990's.

Kinda funny that Honda were struggling after everyone said it was them pushing for the 800cc limit: 990 V5 - 1 cylinder = 792cc.

[MDR2]

WTF???

Unsure how they work out that they can get back into the pits, do a real slow lap and still be on the grid before the lights go out. Lol.

What a crock

Pretty easy I would say with the way DORNA run things. Everyone out for the sighting lap and then to the grid and then lets waste half a fucking our while the comentators walk the grid interviewing and talking about whats happened in the past week. Drives me nuts.

[MDR2]

I've made the prediction before in another thread. I'll make it again now. Lorenzo/Spies Fiat yamaha team 2011


Something else im thinking, if Suzuki want to start playing ball again, and not end up being the next Kawazaki (RIP) they need to front up some cash so good Rossi and burgess can't refuse and hope they can develop the bike a bit.

Lorenzo is the up and coming talent with quite a few more years ahead of him. Rossi, while he IS still winning races and even championships, can't seriously think of racing for too much longer. (2 or 3 more seasons max?)

Hell. it could just be a ratings thing... little bit of drama for the end of season to keep fans interested and wanting to see how it all pans out.

[denill]

I've made the prediction before in another thread. I'll make it again now. Lorenzo/Spies Fiat yamaha team 2011


Something else im thinking, if Suzuki want to start playing ball again, and not end up being the next Kawazaki (RIP) they need to front up some cash so good Rossi and burgess can't refuse and hope they can develop the bike a bit.

Lorenzo is the up and coming talent with quite a few more years ahead of him. Rossi, while he IS still winning races and even championships, can't seriously think of racing for too much longer. (2 or 3 more seasons max?)

Hell. it could just be a ratings thing... little bit of drama for the end of season to keep fans interested and wanting to see how it all pans out.

I agree with all of that. Some good calls IMO. :whistle:

[denill]

<a href=http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Nov/091110b.htm>Mmmmm, Interesting Times!</A>

[k14]

Never! Seems to me a lot of people reckon Stoner is a whinger...but if you ask me...Rossi does more than anyone. Whaaaaa...I want bridgestone tyres...whaaaa...I want a wall between me and my team mate. Whaaaa...I wanna pick a much weaker team mate....whaaaa...I want my mummas titties
Or maybe uchio's titties?

<a href=http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Nov/091110b.htm>Mmmmm, Interesting Times!</A>
Makes you wonder what is going on with Dovizioso? He was running near the front for the first 3/4 of the season and then he was virtually no where. Battling it out with melandri/kallio for 8th-10th. Same thing at the test. I wouldn't be surprised of midget and dovi are both looking for jobs at the end of next year if they don't start winning some races.

[White trash]

and here's me thinking that you two would be quiet for a while after Valencia ??? :corn:
C'mon Gaz, you know us.

Pete's the best thing that ever happened in road racing and I'm the biggest that never happened.........

[codgyoleracer]

C'mon Gaz, you know us.

Pete's the best thing that ever happened in road racing and I'm the biggest that never happened.........

C'mon Mr Mair, dont talk yourself down tooo much, I recolect you definatly kicked arse (for at least two corners anyway).... ;-)

[codgyoleracer]

Impressed and surprised by mr Spies performance, and Rossi can say what he likes. Stoner said whatever he liked when he was the champ and look where that got him.........

[codgyoleracer]

Pretty easy I would say with the way DORNA run things. Everyone out for the sighting lap and then to the grid and then lets waste half a fucking our while the comentators walk the grid interviewing and talking about whats happened in the past week. Drives me nuts.

oddly enough its the half hour grid walk that the wife enjoys the most (all the gossip and personalities), The grid girls arnt too hard to put up with in moist cases either.............

[MDR2]

Hard to decide between Stoner and Bautista for the fuck up of the year.
One bins it on the warm up lap, and one bins it after the finish.

I guess a points decision to Bautista, he totalled his bike.

lets not forget Jorge binning it on a Sighting lap... or does that not count?

[MDR2]

The grid girls arnt too hard to put up with in moist cases either.............


I prefer them moist too :whistle:

[codgyoleracer]

I prefer them moist too :whistle:

Well spotted

[Crasherfromwayback]

Impressed and surprised by mr Spies performance, and Rossi can say what he likes. Stoner said whatever he liked when he was the champ and look where that got him.........

Don't think Stoner has ever said who can be and who can't be his team mate has he?

Spies will finish the season in the top 5 next year I reckon...and be in it for the win 2011

[codgyoleracer]

Don't think Stoner has ever said who can be and who can't be his team mate has he?

Spies will finish the season in the top 5 next year I reckon...and be in it for the win 2011

Nope, dont think he has said that - but he certainly beacame cockier than his usual self . - Maybe these guys simply talk like this sometimes as a means of "self defence" to the media ?, as they are constantly in their faces looking for dirt and inuendo.
Personally unless i witness it first hand or hear comments on riders from a direct source that i know i can trust, most if this stuff needs to be dismissed as having much truth.

Top 5 for Spies you say ?, Hmmm, I suspect that will depend on the consistency of others, as there are at least 5 guys that would be expected to be up to a second a lap quicker at most tracks than him.
Would be great to see him duff them up though (as it would have been to see Bayliss do the same)

Roll on 2010 !

[roogazza]

C'mon Gaz, you know us.

Pete's the best thing that ever happened in road racing and I'm the biggest that never happened.........

We always have a bit of polite banter, Pete just wears different colour undies. I've been a Yamaha fan since the days of Read and Ivy . LOL. Gaz.

[codgyoleracer]

Quote Reckless: BTW: I like Stoner but he couldn't have fucked up much bigger than throwing it down the track on the warmup! LOL!! Then to post the fastest times in testing. His team sure have been really good to him over this season![/QUOTE]

No way he can be blamed for that, he opened the throttle to warm the tyre up & it spat him down the road. A lot of us have been there n done that , there aint no way its your fault (even though you happen to be the one turnin the throttle)
It "just happens" on occasions and is part of being brave enough to ride these stupidly fast and light motorcycles.
Much better to happen in the warm up than -not get enough heat & have it happen in turn one or two whilst leading a pack of bikes..............

[Crasherfromwayback]

No way he can be blamed for that, he opened the throttle to warm the tyre up & it spat him down the road. A lot of us have been there n done that , there aint no way its your fault (even though you happen to be the one turnin the throttle)
It "just happens" on occasions and is part of being brave enough to ride these stupidly fast and light motorcycles.
Much better to happen in the warm up than -not get enough heat & have it happen in turn one or two whilst leading a pack of bikes..............

You can (as I'm sure you would've had) also end up with a dud tyre. I've had two over the years that simply don't warm up/grip...and one that was actually out of round!

[codgyoleracer]

You can (as I'm sure you would've had) also end up with a dud tyre. I've had two over the years that simply don't warm up/grip...and one that was actually out of round!

We all know it " shit happens" , some people laugh at you for it and some people look for who to blame. Others just say " shit happens" and get back on board and go out and do it again & again.........

[Crasherfromwayback]

We all know it " shit happens" , some people laugh at you for it and some people look for who to blame. Others just say " shit happens" and get back on board and go out and do it again & again.........

And again...

[denill]

I know he's "The Doctor", but FFS, who in this world is actually arrogant enough to say to their employer "Get rid of that guy, he's number two in the world and I don't wanna be on his team." (Other than Crasher of course....)

I hope Rossi DOES go to Ducati. Stoner will wipe the floor with him on the Ducati and Mr Spies will arse fuck him all over the track riding in the Fiat Yamaha team.

Read: "After his bold statements to the BBC about Yamaha being forced to choose between he and teammate Jorge Lorenzo for 2011 and a possible ride with Ducati, Valentino Rossi is now backpedaling as quickly as possible from those statements.

Rossi took a shotgun approach to the story, telling the MotoGP press that the statements were taken out of context, hypothetical and that he has no control over what Yamaha does, anyway. He said that he has never spoken to anyone at Ducati about riding there and just mentioned Ducati as possible suitor in sort of a 'thinking out loud' fashion.

After Rossi left Honda for Yamaha, he wrote an extensive and entertaining account in his autobiography of the behind the scenes theater that actually went on between he, Yamaha and Honda, culminating with the Italian rider and Yamaha Team Manager Davide Brivio hiding under a table in the middle of the night as they conspired to get him on Yamaha's MotoGP team. Rossi is rumored to be working on a sequel to that book."

[Matt Bleck]

Read: "After his bold statements to the BBC about Yamaha being forced to choose between he and teammate Jorge Lorenzo for 2011 and a possible ride with Ducati, Valentino Rossi is now backpedaling as quickly as possible from those statements.

Rossi took a shotgun approach to the story, telling the MotoGP press that the statements were taken out of context, hypothetical and that he has no control over what Yamaha does, anyway. He said that he has never spoken to anyone at Ducati about riding there and just mentioned Ducati as possible suitor in sort of a 'thinking out loud' fashion.

After Rossi left Honda for Yamaha, he wrote an extensive and entertaining account in his autobiography of the behind the scenes theater that actually went on between he, Yamaha and Honda, culminating with the Italian rider and Yamaha Team Manager Davide Brivio hiding under a table in the middle of the night as they conspired to get him on Yamaha's MotoGP team. Rossi is rumored to be working on a sequel to that book."

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/154563/1/what_did_valentino_rossi_mean.html

Here are Rossi's exact words during that part of the BBC interview...

Suzi Perry (BBC):
You said you wanted to end your career with Yamaha. Do you still feel like that?

Valentino Rossi:
Not sure at 100 percent. It depends what happens next year.

Suzi Perry:
What does it depend on?

Valentino Rossi:
It depends about my performance. And the performance and the fight with Lorenzo. And the decision of Yamaha for 2011.

Suzi Perry:
You mean if they re-sign Jorge?

Valentino Rossi:
You know, I think Yamaha has to decide between me and Jorge. For 2011. It depends. Depends a lot. Is early to say. I have anyway a great option that is Ducati. To change bike and try to win with the Italian bike.

Suzi Perry:
Would you like that?

Valentino Rossi:
Yeah for sure it is a great motivation, but I prefer at this moment to stay with Yamaha, because I think the love between me and Yamaha - our relationship - is something special and change bike is 'unfaithful' [says in Italian]. I think for Yamaha it is very important that I finish my career together with them, and also for me it is important.

He is right, Yamaha will have to choose between him and Whore-hey, I doubt they can flip the bill for the both of them.

[codgyoleracer]

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/154563/1/what_did_valentino_rossi_mean.html

Here are Rossi's exact words during that part of the BBC interview...

Suzi Perry (BBC):
You said you wanted to end your career with Yamaha. Do you still feel like that?

Valentino Rossi:
Not sure at 100 percent. It depends what happens next year.

Suzi Perry:
What does it depend on?

Valentino Rossi:
It depends about my performance. And the performance and the fight with Lorenzo. And the decision of Yamaha for 2011.

Suzi Perry:
You mean if they re-sign Jorge?

Valentino Rossi:
You know, I think Yamaha has to decide between me and Jorge. For 2011. It depends. Depends a lot. Is early to say. I have anyway a great option that is Ducati. To change bike and try to win with the Italian bike.

Suzi Perry:
Would you like that?

Valentino Rossi:
Yeah for sure it is a great motivation, but I prefer at this moment to stay with Yamaha, because I think the love between me and Yamaha - our relationship - is something special and change bike is 'unfaithful' [says in Italian]. I think for Yamaha it is very important that I finish my career together with them, and also for me it is important.

He is right, Yamaha will have to choose between him and Whore-hey, I doubt they can flip the bill for the both of them.

So they are discussing 2011 - when his contract ends anyway ?, so whats the big deal?. He is stating facts Yamaha will choose one or the other or both (its their money afterall !)
Have i missed something ?

[Reckless]

I must say you'd have to be very careful of a woman like Suzi Perry.
A little flirtatious, Intelligent, Knowledgeable, good looking!
Rossi certainly opened up for her. LOL!!!

[denill]

"Rossi and Lorenzo, like Casey Stoner (Ducati) and Dani Pedrosa (Honda), are all out of contract at the end of 2010."

And that is going to make for VERY interesting times between now and then.

Yep, bring on 2010...................... :sweatdrop :sweatdrop

[Reckless]

What if Spies goes really well next season and Yamaha Promote him to No1!

Who would they drop Rossi, Lorenzo or both??

[denill]

<a href=http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Nov/091110b.htm>Mmmmm, Interesting Times!</A>

Compare Day 2 Moto2 Times:
1. Toni Elias (Gresini-Moriwaki) 1:37.279
2. Kenny Noyes (Antonio Banderas-Harris) 1:37.881
3. Xavier Simeon (Gresini-Moriwaki) 1:38.979
4. Joan Olive (Antonio Banderas-Harris) 1:39.266
5. Axel Pons (Pons-Kalex) 1:39.900

[denill]

Compare Day 2 Moto2 Times:
1. Toni Elias (Gresini-Moriwaki) 1:37.279
2. Kenny Noyes (Antonio Banderas-Harris) 1:37.881
3. Xavier Simeon (Gresini-Moriwaki) 1:38.979
4. Joan Olive (Antonio Banderas-Harris) 1:39.266
5. Axel Pons (Pons-Kalex) 1:39.900

And wonder how much those times would come down with one of the Aliens?

BTW It looks like there may be 5 Aliens now. :yes:

[Cajun]

Compare Day 2 Moto2 Times:
1. Toni Elias (Gresini-Moriwaki) 1:37.279
2. Kenny Noyes (Antonio Banderas-Harris) 1:37.881
3. Xavier Simeon (Gresini-Moriwaki) 1:38.979
4. Joan Olive (Antonio Banderas-Harris) 1:39.266
5. Axel Pons (Pons-Kalex) 1:39.900

funny seeing antonio banderas there.

[wharfy]

funny seeing antonio banderas there.

Yeah - is he like the new Steve McQueen :)

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah - is he like the new Steve McQueen :)

You're joking right?

He'll NEVER be a Steve McQueen of any sort or even close!

[wharfy]

You're joking right?


Um yeah that's what the smiley was for ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=233o3DL1DwE

[denill]

You're joking right?

He'll NEVER be a Steve McQueen of any sort or even close!

Watched 'On Any Sunday' last week. Forgot just how bloody good it was...............

The photography is right up there with todays stuff too.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Um yeah that's what the smiley was for ...



Thanks Christ. Had me worried for a bit mate...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Watched 'On Any Sunday' last week. Forgot just how bloody good it was...............

The photography is right up there with todays stuff too.

Aye. A fantastic film even now.

[pritch]

"Rossi and Lorenzo, like Casey Stoner (Ducati) and Dani Pedrosa (Honda), are all out of contract at the end of 2010."



So too Dovizioso. He's been something of an enigma in 2009. He was doing better last year on the Scot bike: third in Malaysia, fourth at Valencia, and fifth in the Championship. Maybe Puig got him...