An alternative to the SV for protwins

[racerhead]

This bike is being raced on the Irish road circuits and is clearing up. Its a Kawasaki ER-6
Its won pretty much every race entered. Built and riden by Ryan Farquar

[Biggles08]

This bike is being raced on the Irish road circuits and is clearing up. Its a Kawasaki ER-6
Its won pretty much every race entered. Built and riden by Ryan Farquar

Wiggles from Mt Eden Motorcycles races one of these quite successfully...watch for him this year starting at PMCC this weekend...he's pretty quick!
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[george formby]

Ryan Farquar

That guy would be quick on a C90! Wanna buy my TDM?

[SWERVE]

From what i have been told they dont make quite the peak hp as an SV but make up for it in the handling/chassis department.
I know there are a few racing but nobody seems to have "realised the potential" yet................ unless the is a rocketship being built as we speak.
probebly not as easy to get performance parts either.
however i am sure ryan F has got his all "sorted" lets face it a rider of his calibre doesn,t ride "a dog' eh

[george formby]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teNQuI0YtRg&feature=related
Click the linky dink to see some oyrish road racing...

[steveyb]

Have a look at the Cagiva Raptor 650.
Not sure if it is homolgated for Pro-Twin though.
Suzuki engine, more HP, better suspension, better exhaust etc.
Might be worth a punt?

[wharfy]

Have a look at the Cagiva Raptor 650.
Not sure if it is homolgated for Pro-Twin though.
Suzuki engine, more HP, better suspension, better exhaust etc.
Might be worth a punt?

And they look good too !!!

[lukemillar]

Could you make an "Ozzy 450" out of a Daytona 675? :whistle:

[GSVR]

Could you make an "Ozzy 450" out of a Daytona 675? :whistle:

Think your confussing Protwin with F3.


I think the ER6 is more comparable to the Suzuki Gladius both which IMO would not make that good a Protwin bike.

The Raptor is good but someone would have to get MNZ to homolgate it and the Hysung GTR has had recent improvements that could make it a very good proposition. Even if it aint that great put a good rider like Jay on one and I reacon he could be very hard to beat this year.

A Fischer MRX 650 with all the options from the states would be awesome but only a fool would allow them into the class.

[lukemillar]

Think your confussing Protwin with F3.


Actually, I was thinking outside of the box! I take it the rules state that it has to be a production twin?

[GSVR]

Actually, I was thinking outside of the box! I take it the rules state that it has to be a production twin?

Only bikes allowed are those homologated by MNZ. Only exception would be if a club wrote some supplementry rules for their race meeting.

All the rules are online @ http://www.mnz.co.nz/competitionrules.aspx

In order to think outside the square or bend the rules you first have to have an intimate understanding of them.

[lukemillar]

In order to think outside the square or bend the rules you first have to have an intimate understanding of them.

Jeez - lighten up dude. It was just a thought ;) And I know - not the best :rolleyes:

[gatch]

Could you make an "Ozzy 450" out of a Daytona 675? :whistle:

how about half a hayabusa motor in a gsxr6 chassis..

[codgyoleracer]

how about half a hayabusa motor in a gsxr6 chassis..

Yip , a good idea for F3, could be a bit weighty though ?

[GSVR]

Yip , a good idea for F3, could be a bit weighty though ?

Could see that getting very messy around the airbox!

Still like the idea of a top of the range 748 duke with 650 barrels. You get oversized everything so cranking up the load will still have a super reliable bike.

Or very latest 250GP bike fitted with custom made 250GP style motor (you are allowed to build your own motor right?)

Lost count of how many times I have read the rules but still don't understand them.

[neil_cb125t]

the 748 ive been told they are real heavy.... but like your way of thinking!!

[GSVR]

the 748 ive been told they are real heavy.... but like your way of thinking!!

Ducati Desmosedici GP9 (2009) Specifications
Approximately 170 kW (230 hp)
148 kg (330 lb)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ducati_Desmosedici


Ducati 748R
106HP (79kW)
192kg (423.3 pounds)

http://www.motorbikes.be/en/Ducati/2002/748%20R/

Suzuki SV650
71 hp (53 kW) @ 9,000 rpm
175 kg (386 lb)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_SV650

I'm sure the Duke can be put on a diet and loose many of those kg's. And the biggest benefit is the engine can be stressed considerably more than the SV650 without shitting itself. And it can suck in plenty of air under the current rules.

Of course the repowered 250 GP bike option is the best of the two ideas but its also alot more controversial.

[neil_cb125t]

Ducati Desmosedici GP9 (2009) Specifications
Approximately 170 kW (230 hp)
148 kg (330 lb)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ducati_Desmosedici


Ducati 748R
106HP (79kW)
192kg (423.3 pounds)

http://www.motorbikes.be/en/Ducati/2002/748%20R/

Suzuki SV650
71 hp (53 kW) @ 9,000 rpm
175 kg (386 lb)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_SV650

I'm sure the Duke can be put on a diet and loose many of those kg's. And the biggest benefit is the engine can be stressed considerably more than the SV650 without shitting itself. And it can suck in plenty of air under the current rules.

Of course the repowered 250 GP bike option is the best of the two ideas but its also alot more controversial.

20Kgs is allot to drop!! as Ducs aren't filled with crappy material like an SV. For the Desmo to drop 20kg would be real hard!!

A 125gp bike with a CR500/KX500 donk in it - now theres a handful!!

100KGs /100HP easily do able!!:rockon:

[slowpoke]

Nup, 160kg is doable, you just need a biiiiiig cheque book!

That moto-genius Thorsten Durbahn has already got a 999 (virtually same as a 749) down to 160kg's, with fuel, as evidenced here: http://www.ducati-999.com/

[Sidewinder]

well yeah didnt you know pple raced them aswell?

[codgyoleracer]

20Kgs is allot to drop!! as Ducs aren't filled with crappy material like an SV. For the Desmo to drop 20kg would be real hard!!

A 125gp bike with a CR500/KX500 donk in it - now theres a handful!!

100KGs /100HP easily do able!!:rockon:


I was told that SV's were made from melted down historic bikes like Kwaka 400's & the like......., so that does explain a bit :-)

[Ivan]

Ducati Desmosedici GP9 (2009) Specifications
Approximately 170 kW (230 hp)
148 kg (330 lb)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ducati_Desmosedici


Ducati 748R
106HP (79kW)
192kg (423.3 pounds)

http://www.motorbikes.be/en/Ducati/2002/748%20R/

Suzuki SV650
71 hp (53 kW) @ 9,000 rpm
175 kg (386 lb)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_SV650

I'm sure the Duke can be put on a diet and loose many of those kg's. And the biggest benefit is the engine can be stressed considerably more than the SV650 without shitting itself. And it can suck in plenty of air under the current rules.

Of course the repowered 250 GP bike option is the best of the two ideas but its also alot more controversial.


Has anyone thought sometihng Moto2 a 600 engine in a 250gp chassis and theres guys doing it over seas racing but instead of running it as a 600 do thetriple to it thatd be a awsome bike very very light and good handling chassis with a really good engine in it proved by Chris and Kirk that the 2 Chris has built are blimmin fast

[wharfy]

Nup, 160kg is doable, you just need a biiiiiig cheque book!

That moto-genius Thorsten Durbahn has already got a 999 (virtually same as a 749) down to 160kg's, with fuel, as evidenced here: http://www.ducati-999.com/

That is a horny looking bike !!!

[JayRacer37]

No one has mentioned the OBVIOUS non SV650 pro twin other than the ER - a Hyosung! :sunny: :bleh:

[SWERVE]

Oh we know about the hyosung jay!:2guns:
new one has good HP too i believe.:chase:
Where is it man................. is it it the batcave at the moment:shifty::bleh:

[codgyoleracer]

No one has mentioned the OBVIOUS non SV650 pro twin other than the ER - a Hyosung! :sunny: :bleh:

My motto though Jay is , to never ride anything that you cant pronounce the name of ploperly.... :-)

[neil_cb125t]

I was told that SV's were made from melted down historic bikes like Kwaka 400's & the like......., so that does explain a bit :-)

Ahhhh That is where they get their good gene's from.... so what are HYOSUGNSNS?!?! made from.....

must be like a drink in the States called Mikes hard lemonade....the lable on the back says "we can't tell you what mike puts in his lemonade, all we can say is that 12 lemons go into his shed and only 4 make it out!"

back on topic Mr Farquar is not a slow rider neither... wonder what he could do on a post classics machine....I do here the ER has a funny re shock arrangement??

[JayRacer37]

My motto though Jay is , to never ride anything that you cant pronounce the name of ploperly.... :-)

Hell, how do you justify those Ducatis you have? :bleh:

[JayRacer37]

Oh we know about the hyosung jay!:2guns:
new one has good HP too i believe.:chase:
Where is it man................. is it it the batcave at the moment:shifty::bleh:

It's in my cave... :)

[gixerracer]

It's in my cave... :)

you poor poor bastard:Oops:

[Shaun]

you poor poor bastard:Oops:



Richard Scott and partner do not seem to think so:scooter:

[SWERVE]

Cmon Jay ..just a hint of when we see you out on the "beastie':soon:

[Ivan]

Yeah its the big silence to see the Hyosung I wonder if the typical Jay Backing into bends will work on the poor beastie haha

[JayRacer37]

I'm not sure when it will be ready yet.

Soon, I hope :)

[Ivan]

I'm not sure when it will be ready yet.

Soon, I hope :)

but will you be backing it into the bends?

[JayRacer37]

Dunno. Depends if its nesacary or not. I'm sure I could, but if it isn't faster (for me)...

[Ivan]

haha Its pretty awsome how sideways I have seen you go