Being scammed thru from my ad on Trade and Exchange

[Laava]

I have my bike on T&E at the mo and within 2hrs of listing I get offered $100 more than I advertised it for. I attach the text of the e-mail;
Hi,
I will like to know if the Ad is still available for sale and i will offer you $3,500.00 hope to read from you soon.
Brelia.

Brelia Moore

************************************************** ************************

The sender has specified the following reply address: breliamoore001@gmail.com .

The email was sent via a form on the Trade & Exchange website. The sender does not currently know your email address but will if you reply.

Trade & Exchange takes no responsibility for the content of this email.

Sender's IP: 202.154.130.162

So I respond as you do, ever hopeful that it is not a scam although I had a gut feeling, you know?
Hi Brelia, Yes the bike is still for sale. I had it running today and so I
know it is still in good order. Would you like me to send you some more
photo's? You are also able to come and view, but you realise the bike is in
Whangarei? Cheers, Al.
Then I get;
Hi,thanks for mailing back,i want you to send me the recent photos,
i am happy to read from you and i want you to know that am buying this
for Dad.......I would have prefer to come and inspect the Bike
and pay you in cash but i cant due to the nature of my work,I'm an
oceanist,i am at sea right now, and I am glad you accepted my offer.I
can only pay through paypal at the moment as i do not have access to
my bank account online,but i have it attached to my paypal account,
and this is why i insisted on using paypal to pay,all i will need is
your paypal email address to make the payment,and if you do not have
a paypal account yet,its pretty easy to set one up at www.paypal.com,i
will be expecting your email.I have a pick up agent that will come for
the pick up after payment has been sorted.
Email me here.
Brelia
Yeah so pretty obviously dodgy about here. I believe what they do is put the money in your Paypal account then ask you for the difference and then cancel the paypal? Anyone here shed some light or know a way around it?

[Mom]

Wankers! I have not heard about paypal being used like this, but I guess anything is possible. Contact paypal.

[Laava]

me;Hi Brelia, yeah no worries. I will set that up straightaway. What is your delivery address for when you complete the trans action? I can give you my bank account no too, that will be easier all round. Thanks Al.
them;Hi,
thanks for the mail and your cooperation my shipping agent will come for the pick up as soon as i make the payment,hope to read from you about your paypal email so as to make the payment asap.
Brelia.
Me;Hi Brelia, so tell me why you chose this particular machine to buy as a present for your Dad? Does he know about it? He will be dead chuffed I bet! Cheers Al.

Yeah Anne, pretty funny really! Not funny for those who get stung tho I'll bet!
Going on the ACC run tomorrow?

[Mully]

Indeed. They make the payment, and take the bike. Then reverse the paypal.

[Laava]

them; No i want to make it a surprise for him and i know he will like it
me; Cool! He is very lucky to be getting this particular machine. By the way, where abouts is this machine going to in the country as I am a professional bike mover and have a modest fleet of vehicles. Am having trouble getting the photo's to upload as we had massive power cuts in the north today. Ta Al

[mossy1200]

Yeh but pay pal has a negotiation on disputes for 28 days then a hearing to decide if a refund is given so I cant see how they could be pulling the get money and goods trick but would suspect that they want your paypal details so as to send bung invoice maybe...

[JMemonic]

Yeh but pay pal has a negotiation on disputes for 28 days then a hearing to decide if a refund is given so I cant see how they could be pulling the get money and goods trick but would suspect that they want your paypal details so as to send bung invoice maybe...

Hmm nasty thinking there but possibly the correct thinking, send you a letter by courier with the invoice and when you acknowledge receipt of package they have proof you took delivery of something.

[Laava]

them; Australia
me; Paypal won't let me have an account for 10 days, apparently thaty is their new policy to stop naive people from being scammed. Why do you want to pay for a bike as a surprise and then go thru all the heinous re-registration details in Oz? I don't get it?

Haven't heard back now for a while so I suspect they have given up!

[Hopeful Bastard]

haha... Sounds like you were gonna get ripped man..

[rainman]

Sender's IP: 202.154.130.162
...
I would have prefer to come and inspect the Bike
and pay you in cash but i cant due to the nature of my work,I'm an
oceanist,i am at sea right now, and I am glad you accepted my offer.

IP is from Actrix, hardly a vessel at sea. (What the hell is an oceanist anyway?)

My advice is never trade with a person who doesn't leave spaces after punctuation.

[Hopeful Bastard]

(What the hell is an oceanist anyway?)



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[peasea]

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Some geek who knows about the ocean and stuff and hangs out with Spongebob Squarepants?

[awayatc]

as you have figured out already it is a scam......
my daughter got something similar when selling her car through TM.....
If you would go on with it, you would get e-mails saying that money has been deposited in Paypal account, and it will be released to you as soon as you send them a money order...because , you see they accidently paid to much into paypal......

[gwigs]

IP is from Actrix, hardly a vessel at sea. (What the hell is an oceanist anyway?)

My advice is never trade with a person who doesn't leave spaces after punctuation.

The opposite of a Landist...:whistle:

[Jantar]

as you have figured out already it is a scam......
my daughter got something similar when selling her car through TM.....
If you would go on with it, you would get e-mails saying that money has been deposited in Paypal account, and it will be released to you as soon as you send them a money order...because , you see they accidently paid to much into paypal......
Ha, but that's not how PayPal works. PayPal deducts the exact amount of the invoice from the payers credit card or bank account, and imediately transfers it to the Payee's account. They can't "accidentally" pay too much, and if they somehow do, maybe because of an incorrect invoice, then PayPal's dispute system comes into play. So if they ask for any refund it can only be after you have received the funds from PayPal, and then the refund is of course via PayPal.

The Scammer could end up being the one scammed.

[Blackbird]

I had an almost identical approach when advertising the Blackbird through Trade Me. It was supposedly from an offshore oil platform near Australia. Had read about these scams before so simply reported it to the TradeMe people. Dead easy to spot - crap English and no real knowledge about the product being sold.

[Bow-Down]

Hey guys,
I got an email last night from this Brelia Moore offering $200 more than what I want for my bike so I replied saying yes it was available and gave some more details about the bike.
I found this a little suspicious so googled Brelia Moore and found this thread.
Ive emailed back with some harsh words and a warning.

Hope nobody gets sucked in by this scam.

[steve_t]

A dude I know baited one of these guys and it ended up that the guy was in Nigeria routing through a server in the US. It's a pretty common scam these days :angry2:

[GOONR]

Pay back time... 419Eater (http://www.419eater.com/), I love this site, well funny.

[Johnvfr]

Just Had exactly the same scam.Had a Car on T&E and got an email $100 more than asking price used exactly the same tex must just past and copy.
Thought it strange but thought play the game as it could well of been bought to go to the UK etc.Played the game right through to doing the money order on paypowl 10 mins later I get an email back from Brelia saying the $12750 had been deposited plus and additional $750 for the agent in the UK.I thought bloody hell its genuine.Heres the catch I had to send the $750 through a credit union account before my money would be relieced into my paypowl acc.This is via paypowl.What gets me is Paypowl let them do this.I returned an email to here saying is the car going to the UK.I get one back no Hamilton.I then send one saying Ill drive it down just transfer car price.
Game over havnt heard boo.Unbelievable.

[Squiggles]

They dont use Paypal, usually just a site that looks like it on the surface...

[CookMySock]

They dont use Paypal, usually just a site that looks like it on the surface...URL ?

Steve

[firefighter]

Just Had exactly the same scam.Had a Car on T&E and got an email $100 more than asking price used exactly the same tex must just past and copy.
Thought it strange but thought play the game as it could well of been bought to go to the UK etc.Played the game right through to doing the money order on paypowl 10 mins later I get an email back from Brelia saying the $12750 had been deposited plus and additional $750 for the agent in the UK.I thought bloody hell its genuine.Heres the catch I had to send the $750 through a credit union account before my money would be relieced into my paypowl acc.This is via paypowl.What gets me is Paypowl let them do this.I returned an email to here saying is the car going to the UK.I get one back no Hamilton.I then send one saying Ill drive it down just transfer car price.
Game over havnt heard boo.Unbelievable.

Not the sharpest knife in the drawer..........eh?

[Beemer]

It's definitely a scam as I saw a similar post on an Australian forum I belong to where the person was selling a car and was offered more through Pay Pal and the person buying it said they were an oceanographer or something!

Tell them to get lost!