2 litre bikes?

[Gremlin]

Somebody I know mentioned today that they were being made...

Is this true, or are they cruisers? If they are a sports bike what sort of performance are they capable of, bearing in mind they still have only 2 wheels...

[Bob]

Somebody I know mentioned today that they were being made...

Is this true, or are they cruisers? If they are a sports bike what sort of performance are they capable of, bearing in mind they still have only 2 wheels...

Only bikes of that capacity I know of are cruisers - Rocket III, VN2000 etc.

Personally, I think it is a bit sad that all the companies seem to be doing are bringing out bikes with bigger and bigger engines. What about the end of the market that doesn't need huge cc engines? Or would like a light, well handling bike?

There was an interesting test done in Bike magazine this month - they took an R6 and with a lot of work, retuned it so that it was less top end, had a fatter midrange etc. Then they tried it out on 20 riders along with a standard R6. All they said was "one of them is a bit different from the other".

18 out of 20 riders preferred the retuned one, despite it losing out at the top end.

Arguement was; 15 years of development by the Japanese has been going in the wrong direction.

[Biff]

Didn't a company named Van Vean (spelling?) release a two-litre bike in the 70's? A Dutch company I think, and I believe the bike was an OCR2000??

Just Googled - Apart from the spelling of Van Veen I was pretty much right. The engine appears to have been a Comotor (Citroen-NSU). May even have been a Wankel. Anybody else know what the fork I'm talking about?

[Bob]

Didn't a company named Van Vean (spelling?) release a two-litre bike in the 70's? A Dutch company I think, and I believe the bike was an OCR2000??

Just Googled - Apart from the spelling of Van Veen I was pretty much right. The engine appears to have been a Comotor (Citroen-NSU). May even have been a Wankel. Anybody else know what the fork I'm talking about?

I thought the Van Veen (which seemed to my uneducated eye to be quite advanced for the time) was powered by a Wankel Rotary Engine, but I think it was "only" one litre, not two.

[Biff]

I thought the Van Veen (which seemed to my uneducated eye to be quite advanced for the time) was powered by a Wankel Rotary Engine, but I think it was "only" one litre, not two.

I always thought it was a two litre? But I wouldn't bet my butt on it.

http://www.classicmechanics.com/bissue/2003-05.htm

[Krusti]

Just go get a Boss Hoss.....350 Chev V8...would be fun if ya didn't do corners...one gear..GO...:Punk:

[bugjuice]

I thought there were a few 2+ cruisers and hogs around..
there's always the viper..

[vtec]

A 2 litre wankel? ... on a bike? The biggest rotary that they put in road going cars is a 1.8 litre, however theres a guy in NZ with a quadrotor 2.6 litre, and damn that is a fast car (fourre). The chance of there being one that big on a motorbike would be pretty slim, unless it was made as a very limited edition special something. Interesting idea though.

[speedpro]

A 2 litre wankel? ... on a bike? The biggest rotary that they put in road going cars is a 1.8 litre, however theres a guy in NZ with a quadrotor 2.6 litre, and damn that is a fast car (fourre). The chance of there being one that big on a motorbike would be pretty slim, unless it was made as a very limited edition special something. Interesting idea though.
Mazda Cosmos have a triple rotor engine designated the 20B.

Possibly the 2L designation for the OCR came from the idea of doubling the rotary capacity to get an equivalent reciprocating engine capacity. You can bet the marketing guys had a hand in that as well.

[vtec]

Yeah sorry my mistake, I know all about rotors, but for some reason i thought that 3/2 x 1.3 litres was 1.8 when it is actually 2 litres.. just a lapse in brain power . Still try putting that on a motorbike.

[250learna]

if you look at what a rotary 2l puts out in the 90's from cosmo... then work back 30odd years and take away power for technology advances... it would still be far too much power for a bike in thouse days...traction would be the first problem on old rubber i assume, and such bike would be legendary sitting nicely on every biker's wall poster as opose to us sitting around thinking if it ever even existed. :disapint:
still im only guessing here and if this beast realy did exist i bow down to its greatness :yeah: and i hope you will post some pics :mobile:

[dangerous]

Somebody I know mentioned today that they were being made...

Is this true, or are they cruisers? If they are a sports bike what sort of performance are they capable of, bearing in mind they still have only 2 wheels...
well theres 'Munch' a 2000cc 4cyl of 1970
http://www.cybermotorcycle.com/gallery/classics/images/Munch%20NSU.jpg

[dangerous]

well theres 'Munch' a 2000cc 4cyl some with turbo, 260hp.
And theres the 03 model a 2000cc 4cyl some with turbo, 260hp

http://www.motobykz.co.uk/Munch/breitseite.jpg

http://www.motobykz.co.uk/Munch/Munch_track2.jpg

ENGINE
Type/No. of cylinders DOHC four-stroke, transvers in-line four-cylinder
Cooling system liquid cooling
Materials aluminium alloy (engine),
magnesium alloy (oil sump),
fairings made of carbon fibre .
Displacement 1,998 cc
Bore/stroke 86/86 mm
Valves 16, (hydraulic lash adjustment)
Turbocharger Schwitzer, max. charge pressure 0.9 bar, operates smoothly at an engine speed of 2000 rpm
Intercooler charge-air cooling
Compression ratio 9,0 : 1
Engine control Motronic - Münch Mammut 2000 c/w O2 sensor
Camshaft drive toothed belt
Carburation electronic fuel injection
Power output 260 bhp (191 kW) @ 5,650 rpm
Max. revs 8,500 rpm
Torque

PERFORMANCE
Acceleration "OH MY GOD"
or as the makers say "Sufficient"
Top speed 156 mph (250 km/h - electronically limited)
Range about 190 miles (300 km)

[gav]

Sounds like Suzukis awesome B King is going into production :niceone:
http://www.sportbikez.net/bikepics/medium/1104759372.jpg
Unfortunately it won't have the supercharged 'busa engine, but it will be a 1500cc Hayabusa based motor, pretty much the styling will be the same with the diamond shaped exhausts etc. It will have a new name though, could be out for 2006!