Sick of the Pope hype yet?

[Lou Girardin]

I am, thoroughly.
Having had Catholicsism beaten into me for years, I don't have a lot of respect for the organisation.
Id like to hear more about the aids sufferers who contracted the disease because using condoms is a sin.
And about women and children dying in child birth for the same reason.
Or from the women who would make better Priests than some of the kiddie fiddlers the church protects.
Cynical? You bet!

[Deano]

It was reported that Benedict considered Catholicism superior to all other religions - bit of a righteous viewpoint if you ask me.

[Storm]

I am, thoroughly.
Having had Catholicsism beaten into me for years, I don't have a lot of respect for the organisation.
Id like to hear more about the aids sufferers who contracted the disease because using condoms is a sin.
And about women and children dying in child birth for the same reason.
Or from the women who would make better Priests than some of the kiddie fiddlers the church protects.
Cynical? You bet!
Yeah, but whats the bet he will either a) dodge/refuse to answer the questions or b) declare (once again, as so many before him have) that the church know best and they wont be getting any changes from him.
Because of course, the church never screws up -yeah right!!
Anyone else think the scene in Dogma (the movie) where two of the characters are speaking with the Cardinal is a great example of church thinking?

[Indiana_Jones]

"You're
A Catholic the moment Dad came,

Because

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate."

Had to be put in :D

I don't see why people are angry at this new pope john paul was hardline too on the same subjects, he chose just about all of the cardinal's.

-Indy

[Storm]

"You're
A Catholic the moment Dad came,

Because

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate."

Had to be put in :D

I don't see why people are angry at this new pope john paul was hardline too on the same subjects, he chose just about all of the cardinal's.

-Indy


Its because changing with the times isnt a sin. It used to be a stoning offence to wear clothing made of two types of fibres. So all you lot reading this in your cotton/polyester blends, you're all on the hell highway!!
There is a difference between keeping faith with your traditions and being pricks with your heads buried in the sand. That sort of thing is why the Catholic church isnt exactly seen in a positive light in many quarters

[Paul in NZ]

Yeah but do they OWN the blimmin media or summat.... Sorry folks but it's boring boring boring...... Oh yes, the humble servant bit... hahahahahahaha... Now that was funny coming from a German intellectual but the rest....

Good grief! Nothing against Catholics or any other religion but I'm sorry, the whole thing was a bit over the blimmin top... I suppose we should be gratefull we were spared weeks of coverage of Chuck and Camillia's wedding but really.... REALLY boring.... (talk about a cult of personality)

Cheers

[James Deuce]

It was reported that Benedict considered Catholicism superior to all other religions - bit of a righteous viewpoint if you ask me.
Can't expect anything else from a man whose life has been bookended by the Hitler Youth, and being the Grand Inquisitor of the Catholic Church.

No one expects the German Inquisition!

[MikeL]

No, I'm not sick of the Pope thing yet. At the risk of reviving the Religious Rave (Requiescat in Pace) I think that interest in religious debate is a positive and healthy thing. The media hype is typical of a sensationalist age, but the issues are real and relevant. The future face of Catholicism matters, because of the power and influence that the church wields, and because of the interconnection of religious, political and economic ideologies as well as moral questions.
More, please!

[Jamezo]

I am thinking this guy is somewhat of a temporary pope. he was elected as to not rock the boat in the memory of JP; they made sure he was guaranteed to continue the hard line of JP, and that he was old enough to ensure a change soon enough. then they may go with someone who can make some actual progress.

he looks like a mob boss to me, even though he's german....

[Quasievil]

Disband religion and the Royals and Non Kawasaki riders and the world would be a better place

:drinknsin Is it Rally time yet ?

[Sniper]

Blah blah blah blah blah

[ManDownUnder]

Blah blah blah blah blah

now now - no need to get technical...

I have a couple of observations on the whole thing...
1) Why, after entering the enclave, must all proceedings be kept secret, under threat of being excommunicated?

WHAT'S WITH THAT?

2) Why change name to Benedict? The guy had a name before being Pope... and he needs a NEW ONE?

anyhoo - yup... sick of it (and actually agree with Sniper..)
MDU

[Motu]

I watched the MotoGP on monday night,I'll watch F1 on sunday night - my weeks TV viewing.The radio plays music not the news and the only internet sites I go to are KiwiBiker and WoFonline....what Pope?

[Coyote]

Disband religion and the Royals and Non Kawasaki riders and the world would be a better place

Amen! :yes:

[bugjuice]

Disband religion and the Royals and Non Kawasaki riders and the world would be a better place

:drinknsin Is it Rally time yet ?
with you mate..
even rock music is a sin. I heard a bit on the news realing off a whole heap of 'sins', most of which I thought was really strong to be coming out with. They must have really been bored. We're all off to hell tho, unless you've been living in the cupboard for your whole life. Least it'll be warm in hell. :shake: :ride: :killingme :banana: :Punk: :drinknsin :devil2: :buggerd:

[Lou Girardin]

It did occur to me, that if they're following God's will in selecting a new Pope. Why weren't the Cardinals individually isolated with a list of nominees for a period of time to pray for guidance. Then they would cast a vote and the winner is whoever had a simple majority.
This allows no possibility of influence or lobbying during this period.

[ManDownUnder]

It did occur to me, that if they're following God's will in selecting a new Pope. Why weren't the Cardinals individually isolated with a list of nominees for a period of time to pray for guidance. Then they would cast a vote and the winner is whoever had a simple majority.
This allows no possibility of influence or lobbying during this period.

You mean they were lobbying each other to determine God's will...

... but that doesn't make sense... :whistle:

[gamgee]

i don't like the new pope, he looks like a sunken eyed mongol

[Yarg]

I find it very interesting that he is German , with the close relationship that the Vatican & germany shared during WW 2. be interesting to see what develops between the new pope (vatican) & the European union headed by germany.

[ManDownUnder]

I find it very interesting that he is German , with the close relationship that the Vatican & germany shared during WW 2. be interesting to see what develops between the new pope (vatican) & the European union headed by germany.

... and you mean there's POLITICS involved here???


NOOOOOOO!!!!??????!!!!!!

But this is religion we're talking about. Pious, pure, religion. For pity's sake people... you make it all sound so... so... DIRTY!

MDU

[idb]

... you make it all sound so... so... DIRTY! MDU


Now I'm interested.......

[Waylander]

Hehe freind of mine used a phrase awhile back I think you'de like bugjuice. Was when some mormon missonaries came to my house (family was mormon at the time but I never felt right about it though I did go to church and all that to make my parents happy) and he happend to be there. They tried converting him and told him what heaven was supposed to be like and don't you want to go to heaven young man? Well his view of it turned out to be a bit like mine. Quiet and restrictive. So he tells them "If that is what heaven is like then I hope to burn in hell." The look on thier faces was something not to be missed.

[Quasievil]

think of the money in religion, it is a worthy business isnt it ?? lots of money in the catholic church, infact probably the richist. Now if there was no money in it would it still be there ?
just a question

I believe strongly that with most things ,follow the money trail for the truth

[White trash]

think of the money in religion, it is a worthy business isnt it ?? lots of money in the catholic church, infact probably the richist. Now if there was no money in it would it still be there ?
just a question

I believe strongly that with most things ,follow the money trail for the truth

Well fuck me.

Finally, a post outta you that doesn't go "Blah blah come to the rally, blah blah, 636, blah blah where are me fricken tyres...." :whistle:

[Paul in NZ]

Disband religion and the Royals and Non Kawasaki riders and the world would be a better place

:drinknsin Is it Rally time yet ?

nah! Give them all one of those over hp'd evil handling gobs of green goo and they would all be dead in a week...

;-)

[flyin]

think of the money in religion, it is a worthy business isnt it ?? lots of money in the catholic church, infact probably the richist. Now if there was no money in it would it still be there ?
just a question

I believe strongly that with most things ,follow the money trail for the truth

well yeah the church runs on donated funds, how else is the pope gunna eat.
I dont think theres too many vatican city drug rings.........

[ManDownUnder]

well yeah the church runs on donated funds, how else is the pope gunna eat.
I dont think theres too many vatican city drug rings.........

hell no - and no child abuse... just like it's the CIA's job to stamp out drugs... unless they fund someone they deem to be a friendly in need of cash...

:whistle:

[Jamezo]

well yeah the church runs on donated funds, how else is the pope gunna eat.
I dont think theres too many vatican city drug rings.........

my friend was telling me some time ago that the Vatican got (and is still getting?) money from the italian government because Mussolini tried to get the pope to tell the worlds Catholics that Italy was on God's side.

[inlinefour]

Is he dead or something? :msn-wink:

[ManDownUnder]

Is he dead or something? :msn-wink:

Yup... unlike the occasional bod in here who're only dead from the neck up... :killingme

MDU

[bugjuice]

Is he dead or something? :msn-wink:
well they haven't really backed a long-termer to start with.. he's already 78, isn't he..??

[inlinefour]

well they haven't really backed a long-termer to start with.. he's already 78, isn't he..??

I thinkits more like 81, no wonder I'm not catholic...

[Waylander]

Considering that when you are pope you are pop till ya die they wont want a young guy in office ever. Imagine if the american presidency was the same way. Could you imagine 80 years or so of Bush? Nah they want someone that will keel over after a couple decades so they can put someone new in.

[bugjuice]

Considering that when you are pope you are pop till ya die they wont want a young guy in office ever. Imagine if the american presidency was the same way. Could you imagine 80 years or so of Bush? Nah they want someone that will keel over after a couple decades so they can put someone new in.
John Paul was in the hot seat for 30 odd years, wasn't he..?? just trying to remember what I heard on the news.. They obvisouly don't want too much mileage out of them now?
Makes you wonder what they get up to in that room they're locked in. That smoke has to be lit by something...

[SPORK]

I vote myself for next pope.

I will chose my popename as "Aloucises the IIVCth"

And I will make all catholics roll one trouser leg up at all times. And know the entire rap of "Still D.R.E" Oh, and wear bandanas.

Now, who's going to vote for me? I promise to take the chuirtch to new and exciting places!

[ManDownUnder]

I vote myself for next pope.

I will chose my popename as "Aloucises the IIVCth"

And I will make all catholics ... wear bandanas.

... like this one?? :banana:

MDU

[bugjuice]

you got ma vote sun :niceone: *buuuuurrrp*

[Coyote]

I will chose my popename as "Aloucises the IIVCth"

Isn't there a more 'dignifying' name than 'Aloucises'?

[SPORK]

Excellent. I call our select group the Kollege of Slobbers.

And instead of being the pope i want to be called the mope. just because it sounds more fun

[Coldkiwi]

Id like to hear more about the aids sufferers who contracted the disease because using condoms is a sin.

Cynical? You bet!

so close yet so far mate. i rather thought it was promiscuity that spread aids, not the lack of condoms. But then, I'm a christian, so what would i know?

what interests me about the pope being elected from germany is that they've recognised that catholicism in the west is really taking a downward turn and that they need to address that more than they need to promote yet more growth in latin america.

i beleive he's 78 but i guess it'll come down to how well he can look after himself in the next few years as to whether he's 'temporary' or a real mover and shaker... or mover and 'fix it down right where it is nower' as some are suggesting!

[Ixion]

with you mate..
even rock music is a sin. I heard a bit on the news realing off a whole heap of 'sins', most of which I thought was really strong to be coming out with. They must have really been bored. We're all off to hell tho, unless you've been living in the cupboard for your whole life. Least it'll be warm in hell. :shake: :ride: :killingme :banana: :Punk: :drinknsin :devil2: :buggerd:

Plenty of pizza too. Where's your pitchfork Mr Loosebruce

[Fluffy Cat]

Er,whats a pope?

[MacD]

Er,whats a pope?
A personal hygiene item?

http://im.edirectory.co.uk/products/1009/i/2825.jpg

Pope on a Rope

(Soap)

(I can feel them stoking up the fires of hell from here!)

[idb]

Apparently he is a very traditional type of Catholic leader.
For example the news this morning said that he wants to have more contact with youth.......

[inlinefour]

so close yet so far mate. i rather thought it was promiscuity that spread aids, not the lack of condoms. But then, I'm a christian, so what would i know?

what interests me about the pope being elected from germany is that they've recognised that catholicism in the west is really taking a downward turn and that they need to address that more than they need to promote yet more growth in latin america.

i beleive he's 78 but i guess it'll come down to how well he can look after himself in the next few years as to whether he's 'temporary' or a real mover and shaker... or mover and 'fix it down right where it is nower' as some are suggesting!

Regarding the aids. Nothing to do with religion. Its unsafe sexual activities that can lead to positive HIV status. Once the HIV brews for a while you become AIDs positive. Condom use can reduce the risk, but apparently not remove the risk. Then there is the other ways of contracting HIV, but we will not get into that...
JOKE (not catholic safe):
Q. How do you make a nun pregnant?
A. Dress her up as an alterboy!
:whistle:

[Hitcher]

The last time the College of Cardinals elected a "caretaker" Pope, they got Vatican II.

I still reckon they should have run the election as an international "Pope Idol" competition where Catholics got to TXT their preference, as suggested by Raybon Kan.