Soda blaster for carb cleaning & rebuilding [Archive]

CookMySock

5th November 2009, 07:37

If you gave an air gun, you dont even need a compressor. The gas barby bottle makes a useable, if dangerous source of compressed gas. Clearly if you do this, you should treat it like the weapon that it is, but hey it works! Breezy outdoor environment only plz. Not for use on a calm day or anywhere near a building, or anywhere near anything for that matter. Works also with a paint spraygun, but you need a regulator.

Steve

The Stranger

5th November 2009, 07:48

Saw a light truck on the road from these guys (http://www.sodablaster.co.nz/index.htm) yesterday.

nallac

5th November 2009, 08:03

Hey thanks for that ,have bookmarked page for future reference.
Baking Soda can also be used with a battery charger to remove rust.
:banana:

How'd ya do that?...

wonder how well this works or of my compresser could keep up...

worth a look

http://www.aircooledtech.com/tools-on-the-cheap/soda_blaster/

Might have to give it a try with my cheap sand blaster from M10,
gotta be better than all that sand every where.

meowmix

5th November 2009, 08:41

That looks like a mint idea! Lucky, I've got some ancient carbs to clean and this may well halp greatly.

The Pastor

5th November 2009, 09:08

dose anyone want to back up using a lpg tank? cos i'd give it ago if it wasnt for DB suggesting it...

The Stranger

5th November 2009, 10:43

dose anyone want to back up using a lpg tank? cos i'd give it ago if it wasnt for DB suggesting it...

Nah, it'll be sweet man.
What could possibly go wrong with dispersing lots of flamable gas into the atmosphere?
Do us a favour will ya, make sure you don't mention motorcycles on the ACC claim form eh.

The Pastor

5th November 2009, 11:41

Nah, it'll be sweet man.
What could possibly go wrong with dispersing lots of flamable gas into the atmosphere?
Do us a favour will ya, make sure you don't mention motorcycles on the ACC claim form eh.
well i was going to put my helmet on for saftey.

CookMySock

5th November 2009, 14:44

dose anyone want to back up using a lpg tank? cos i'd give it ago if it wasnt for DB suggesting it...As long as theres LOTS of breeze to disperse it, you will be fine. Breezy day, middle of the lawn, away from cars and buildings, and continuously be on the lookout for ignition sources.

Never inside a building, carport, or around any crevice where the flammable gas will pool - thats when you provoke the loud wall-removing boom.

If something ignites, drop it and walk away. Don't try to resolve it. Get away from it and then make a plan.

Steve

Str8 Jacket

5th November 2009, 14:57

If something ignites, drop it and walk away. Don't try to resolve it. Get away from it and then make a plan.

Steve

Bit like putting a condom on after sex innit it? :mellow:

RDjase

5th November 2009, 15:44

LPG is alot lower pressure than a compressor will run at( 100 to 120psi) and wouldn't do stuff all. Plus its flamable and when you bead blast (or blast any other product) it makes static electricity. When bead blasting old spark plugs to clean the they create enough static to jump the electrode about every 15 seconds

9kg LPG refill costs 20$ or more
Cheap compressor from super cheap $200 , and you can reuse the compressor

The Stranger

5th November 2009, 15:45

If something ignites, drop it and walk away. Don't try to resolve it. Get away from it and then make a plan.

Steve

Walk away? You may not need to, there's a good chance of being blown clear if something ignites. Ever heard of a fuel air bomb?

awayatc

5th November 2009, 16:01

As long as theres LOTS of breeze to disperse it, you will be fine. Breezy day, middle of the lawn, away from cars and buildings, and continuously be on the lookout for ignition sources.

Never inside a building, carport, or around any crevice where the flammable gas will pool - thats when you provoke the loud wall-removing boom.

If something ignites, drop it and walk away. Don't try to resolve it. Get away from it and then make a plan.

Steve

Can't remember last time I heard something as rediculously stupid......
surely it's got to be a pisstake....
sorry....
fell for it, I thought for a minute you were being serious...

RDjase

5th November 2009, 17:01

As long as theres LOTS of breeze to disperse it, you will be fine. Breezy day, middle of the lawn, away from cars and buildings, and continuously be on the lookout for ignition sources.

Never inside a building, carport, or around any crevice where the flammable gas will pool - thats when you provoke the loud wall-removing boom.

If something ignites, drop it and walk away. Don't try to resolve it. Get away from it and then make a plan.

Steve

It the right night for a demonstration steve

Saves going to SOG or the warehouse for fireworks

A helmet is a good idea(for spectators), I hate to get a flying carby in the head.

I wonder how many views it will get on youtube

gwigs

5th November 2009, 18:53

How'd ya do that?...

Might have to give it a try with my cheap sand blaster from M10,
gotta be better than all that sand every where.

Shis site explains how to remove rust....http://www.thepontiactransampage.com/rust.html

R6_kid

5th November 2009, 19:07

CookMySock

5th November 2009, 19:23

Walk away? You may not need to, there's a good chance of being blown clear if something ignites. Ever heard of a fuel air bomb?Yeah thats when you get an approximately correct mixture of fuel and air and tightly contain it, and then ignite it. Try that outdoors on a windy day, and its completely infeasible. LPG is pretty safe uncontained.

On a calm day we emptied a whole LPG bottle into the back yard once. We were a little worried for about 15 mins afterwards, because it sank into every little corner on the ground and just lay there.. so we fucked off down the road and put our fingers in our ears and hoped for the best. :whistle: Nothing happened, but it could of.

Same thing with a flat tyre once, but with 350KPa of approx 50/50 fuel/air in the tyre, after a (very short) while I was unable to reconcile it (images of detonating tyres etc) so I repeatedly flushed it with air until it smelled clean. Fark that would have gone off like a grenade.

Once I sold a car that needed the aircon servicing, and the bloke complained it had no aircon, so I filled it from the gas barby bottle.. worked mint. He was happy, and I banked the cash so all good! I didn't see any gaping smoking holes in any local roads, so I assume it was all sweet.

Why so serious? Hahaha...

Steve

Voltaire

5th November 2009, 19:34

Str8 Jacket

5th November 2009, 19:55

Darwin......Edgecombe is calling....

It's about to go International!

The Stranger

5th November 2009, 20:27

On a calm day we emptied a whole LPG bottle into the back yard once. We were a little worried for about 15 mins afterwards, because it sank into every little corner on the ground and just lay there.. so we fucked off down the road and put our fingers in our ears and hoped for the best. :whistle: Nothing happened, but it could of.

So I take it you tried to ignite it then to simulate something going wrong - like say someone lighting a cigerette?

1 Free Man

5th November 2009, 20:45

Hey thanks for that ,have bookmarked page for future reference.
Baking Soda can also be used with a battery charger to remove rust.
:banana:
Are you sure it's Baking Soda you are refering to. I used this process once but used WASHING SODA quite a different compound

CookMySock

5th November 2009, 21:01

So I take it you tried to ignite it then to simulate something going wrong - like say someone lighting a cigerette?Fuck off. :sick:

We were outa there real quick. Came back much later on when it had all slunk away. It would have been funny walking around with a box of matches and lighting them and hiffing them into corners, but I like all the skin on my legs. FOOOM!!!

Steve

The Stranger

5th November 2009, 21:24

Fuck off. :sick:

We were outa there real quick. Came back much later on when it had all slunk away. It would have been funny walking around with a box of matches and lighting them and hiffing them into corners, but I like all the skin on my legs. FOOOM!!!

Steve

So what relevance does your example have to "If something ignites"?
It's ok, don't answer that, I already know, same old same old.
Hey at least you're consistent.

CookMySock

6th November 2009, 08:31

Hey at least you're consistent.Yep, consistently constructive, amusing, fun, and always ready to pick someone up.

Read your own posts, and reflect; You're consistently abusive, belittling, angry, and always ready with a put-down. Fortunately, your destructive personality has no effect on me, so your poisonous attempts amount to nothing. Perhaps try beating up on your own kids, or do they not talk to you any more? :Oops:

Go down the toilet, angry old man. You waste your own life. :bye:

Steve

The Stranger

6th November 2009, 08:54

Yep, consistently constructive, amusing, fun, and always ready to pick someone up.

Read your own posts, and reflect; You're consistently abusive, belittling, angry, and always ready with a put-down. Fortunately, your destructive personality has no effect on me, so your poisonous attempts amount to nothing. Perhaps try beating up on your own kids, or do they not talk to you any more? :Oops:

Go down the toilet, angry old man. You waste your own life. :bye:

Steve

Ahhh. I feel the love.

CookMySock

6th November 2009, 09:00

Ahhh. I feel the love.Yes, you are finally getting it.

Take a look at what YOU put across. Not nice is it. Quite the contrast?

Steve

Pixie

6th November 2009, 09:05

Once I sold a car that needed the aircon servicing, and the bloke complained it had no aircon, so I filled it from the gas barby bottle.. worked mint. He was happy, and I banked the cash so all good! I didn't see any gaping smoking holes in any local roads, so I assume it was all sweet.

Why so serious? Hahaha...

Steve

Aircon and refrigeration use "hydrocarbon refrigerants"-in other words propane

It's why the Tamahere coolstore went up.

Freon is no longer PC. Ammonia is too noxious.

The Stranger

6th November 2009, 09:18

Yes, you are finally getting it.

Take a look at what YOU put across. Not nice is it. Quite the contrast?

Steve

Fuck off twat, as long as you (or anyone) persists with posting stupid shit I'll continue to point it out.
You have a problem with that then stop posting stupid advice.
You don't have a problem with that then stop your whining crybaby.

Now sure it may well have been a piss take, but there is always the chance, like the numpty who put CRC on his brakes to stop them squeaking on the advice of someone else, that someone takes something you say as genuine.
So I simply err on the side of caution and point out the stupidity.

CookMySock

6th November 2009, 09:25

Aircon and refrigeration use "hydrocarbon refrigerants"-in other words propane - It's why the Tamahere coolstore went up. Freon is no longer PC. Ammonia is too noxious.Ah yeah, cough, there is that. Most of my refrigeration systems are R406A - has some butane in it, but otherwise quite difficult to form an explosive mixture with air.

Tamahere - If they had hundreds of KGs of propane in there, I doubt it would be any less flammable than hundreds of KGs of ammonia. Either way, its going to be a fucking inferno. I'm surprised they don't have a way to flash off the refrigerant in a controlled fashion in the event of a fire. There is ALREADY a fire, so they might as well shoot it straight up and light it, rather than let it overheat, vent into a closed room, and then go boom.

Most supermarket refrigeration systems in NZ are ammonia based AIUI.

It's easy to put something in front of the public and watch them scream it down, KB stylez. Lucky its not my heart attack.

Steve

Voltaire

6th November 2009, 11:07

Aircon and refrigeration use "hydrocarbon refrigerants"-in other words propane

It's why the Tamahere coolstore went up.

Freon is no longer PC. Ammonia is too noxious.

News to me after 20 years in the air conditioning industry.
407c, 134a and 407c are non flamable.

Freon is a brand name, you can no longer by R11, R12 and R22 is being phased out.

ammonia is a great refrigerent , I have used it in larger industrial plants...but you better be a good runner when it leaks.:innocent:

I have never used propane but I understand it was used in cars for a time.

Voltaire

6th November 2009, 11:17

Ah yeah, cough, there is that. Most of my refrigeration systems are R406A - has some butane in it, but otherwise quite difficult to form an explosive mixture with air.

Tamahere - If they had hundreds of KGs of propane in there, I doubt it would be any less flammable than hundreds of KGs of ammonia. Either way, its going to be a fucking inferno. I'm surprised they don't have a way to flash off the refrigerant in a controlled fashion in the event of a fire. There is ALREADY a fire, so they might as well shoot it straight up and light it, rather than let it overheat, vent into a closed room, and then go boom.

Most supermarket refrigeration systems in NZ are ammonia based AIUI.

It's easy to put something in front of the public and watch them scream it down, KB stylez. Lucky its not my heart attack.

Steve

Tamahere was 95% propane....how would you flash that off in the event of a fire....? you being an expert BBQ cylinder carb cleaner and all..........:killingme:killingme:killingme:killin gme

Ammonia is no where near as inflamable....but at least your consistant with your disinformation.

Hard to believe your involved in the refrigeration industry....or any industry for that matter.:eek5:

The Stranger

6th November 2009, 11:57

Hard to believe your involved in the refrigeration industry....or any industry for that matter.:eek5:

Oh, he is involved in the refrigeration industry, but sorry I can't tell you how.
I can tell you what anyone else does for a living, but site rules prohibit me from telling you what db does for a living.
Apparently he gets very upset when it's mentioned.

Voltaire

6th November 2009, 12:34

a quick google found this.......:innocent:

The Pastor

6th November 2009, 23:10

Oh, he is involved in the refrigeration industry, but sorry I can't tell you how.
I can tell you what anyone else does for a living, but site rules prohibit me from telling you what db does for a living.
Apparently he gets very upset when it's mentioned.
dose he get the hamburgers out of the freezer at maccas?

CookMySock

7th November 2009, 06:51

Tamahere was 95% propane....how would you flash that off in the event of a fire....? same way you flash any fucking thing off - pipe it straight upwards out the rooftop through a 4 inch pipe and light the fucker. What would you rather? A nice continuous orange flame venting harmlessly upward, or it to simmer away for an hour and then forcefully detonate?

Ammonia is no where near as inflamable....It makes no difference how "flammable" it is. In fact, the more difficult it is to light off, the more likely it will accumulate and pre-heat below its lower explosive limit, before it does go up with a massive thunderclap. All good fun, but not appreciated by firemens' families and others who were not warned.

Just because I think differently to you is no reason to be a jerk.

Steve

tri boy

7th November 2009, 07:53

I've witnessed an LPG "Bleve"
http://www.ema.gov.au/ema/emadisasters.nsf/83edbd0553620d8cca256d09001fc8fd/50b0893e6453d75bca256d33000583d7?OpenDocument
One of the scariest things I've ever seen. Blew me off my feet, and I was a block away. DO NOT TAKE VOLATILE LIQUIDS/GASES LIGHTLY.
One of the firemen played in our local rugby team. The skin on his hands melted and glued him to the fire nozzle, he was wearing all the safety gear. He now has webbed hands and scars on face/arms/torso.
If I can find the Cairns newspaper pic I will.
DB, its all fun till a few of ya mates are maimed. Not much fun then.
(I will make a safe soda blaster though):yes
A bit more about the bleve
http://books.google.co.nz/books?id=1tmYmj_SRh0C&pg=PA165&lpg=PA165&dq=Cairns+LPG+fire&source=bl&ots=3L4AoeDIAI&sig=6Fq6tw90NL0yFu_83PTelXqxJMs&hl=en&ei=b3z0Spv3KImcMIrI-egF&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CAwQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Cairns%20LPG%20fire&f=false
Mal was our team mate.

The Pastor

7th November 2009, 10:40

Oh, he is involved in the refrigeration industry, but sorry I can't tell you how.
I can tell you what anyone else does for a living, but site rules prohibit me from telling you what db does for a living.
Apparently he gets very upset when it's mentioned.

Sounds like someone has been delt a great serving of being soft.

R6_kid

7th November 2009, 12:34

Apparently he gets very upset when it's mentioned.

I'll keep my mouth shut then...
XbDLRDDJGeI

Voltaire

7th November 2009, 15:49

Just because I think differently to you is no reason to be a jerk.

Steve

Agreed :killingme:killingme:killingme

The Pastor

7th November 2009, 22:18