Key gets slagged from Hide

[Skyryder]

Talk about a wishy washy Prime Minister. Hides slagging off at Key by saying that he (Key) has not done nothing but bring up the idea of cycle-way is nothing short of a political knee job to the groin. Key being ‘relaxed’ about this is akin to offering Hide his other ball to wallop as desert after the main course. It might go down well at a Sunday BBQ with the vicar in attendance after a sermon on ‘turning the other cheek’ but too the man in the street Key’s response to Hides slagging............. beggers belief.

If there was ever a case of political cowardice then this is it. Is it any wonder that I have no respect for this man…………..not only is Key a liar but when he is humiliated he is ‘relaxed’ about it. And after Hyprocrite Hide ignores Keys directive on 'partner perks.'

Jeesus John………………show some fucking ball for God’s sake. Ya come from working class stock or have you forgotten……………or is that only important at election time??

Skyryder

[R6_kid]

Calm down, check your spelling, and edit your post. It'll be more credible then.

[James Deuce]

Latest Stuff poll.

What is the National-led Government's major achievement in its first year?


Steering NZ through stormy economic times

Successfully managing a broad coalition

The Auckland Super City

National education standards

New free trade agreements

New laws on using phones while driving

The national cycleway

John Key's Letterman appearance


Currently winning with 87% of the 35000+ votes - The last option.

[merv]

... and Rodney had a nice trip with his girlfriend - that's an achievement.

[Skyryder]

Calm down, check your spelling, and edit your post. It'll be more credible then.

Na it's called poetic licence. From the heart.

Skyryder

[rainman]

Did you see the TV3 Nightline segment (http://www.3news.co.nz/Ali-Ikram-inspects-the-political-genius-of-John-Key/tabid/728/articleID/128454/cat/17/Default.aspx) on this? Quite funny send up of Johnny in full dither mode.

Apart from the fact he's meant to be running the country. :sick:

Actually the bit that bothers me isn't Rodney slagging off Key and whether it's true or not that Key does nothing - it's the bit where he hints that he can get away with anything at cabinet meetings because the rest are not attentive enough for one reason or another. This is a party that got three fifths of bugger all of the vote: I certainly do not want Rodney driving his nutbar agenda while the rest of cabinet snoozes incompetently.

Democracy fail! :2guns:

[scissorhands]

John does look like the kinda guy who would eat shit and say it tasted good if there was something in it for him.

Johns a noob at politics while Rods an old war horse. Rods been running the show and Johns been a show pony doing the appearances. Rodneys probably the superior politician and loathes that John made it to the top immediately.

Looks like they have both drawn blood now.

[MisterD]

Forget to take your pills did you Skyryder? It's the small blue ones....

Hands up who would like to have what they say about their boss over dinner, when they've had a few wines, reported back? Anyone?

It's good to see you idiot lefties spitting impotent rage as JK sails on as the most consistently popular PM in living memory...do you wonder why that is? It's because he's brought the kind of delegation management that works everywhere else, into politics and people are recognising and responding to it.

He probably doesn't care about what Rodney thinks about the fact that he's working his nuts off on the Supercity as long as the results are there and - judging by the reaction of the local govt experts to the transistion authority - they are.

It's the ministers' jobs to do the work, it's JK's job to manage the team so the work gets done.

Do you really want to go back to the spiteful, authoritarian "I suffer because I'm doing what's best for you" world of Helen Clark?

No fucking way.

[James Deuce]

Forget to take your pills did you Skyryder? It's the small blue ones....

Hands up who would like to have what they say about their boss over dinner, when they've had a few wines, reported back? Anyone?

It's good to see you idiot lefties spitting impotent rage as JK sails on as the most consistently popular PM in living memory...do you wonder why that is? It's because he's brought the kind of delegation management that works everywhere else, into politics and people are recognising and responding to it.

He probably doesn't care about what Rodney thinks about the fact that he's working his nuts off on the Supercity as long as the results are there and - judging by the reaction of the local govt experts to the transistion authority - they are.

It's the ministers' jobs to do the work, it's JK's job to manage the team so the work gets done.

Do you really want to go back to the spiteful, authoritarian "I suffer because I'm doing what's best for you" world of Helen Clark?

No fucking way.
Why are Nationalists so angry? Why do they insist on diminutive labels? Why to they call nuclear weapons "area denial weapons", and "weapons of mass destruction", when they should be called Kentucky Fried People makers?

[retro asian]

... and Rodney had a nice trip with his girlfriend - that's an achievement.

Rodney getting a hotter younger girlfriend -that's an achievement.

[MisterD]

Why are Nationalists so angry?

Who would know, but what's Northern Ireland got to do with it?

[James Deuce]

I was thinking of the Spanish.

[MisterD]

Ok, carry on....(insert *bemused shrug* smiley here)

[Skyryder]

Forget to take your pills did you Skyryder? It's the small blue ones....

Hands up who would like to have what they say about their boss over dinner, when they've had a few wines, reported back? Anyone?

It's good to see you idiot lefties spitting impotent rage as JK sails on as the most consistently popular PM in living memory...do you wonder why that is? It's because he's brought the kind of delegation management that works everywhere else, into politics and people are recognising and responding to it.

He probably doesn't care about what Rodney thinks about the fact that he's working his nuts off on the Supercity as long as the results are there and - judging by the reaction of the local govt experts to the transistion authority - they are.

It's the ministers' jobs to do the work, it's JK's job to manage the team so the work gets done.

Do you really want to go back to the spiteful, authoritarian "I suffer because I'm doing what's best for you" world of Helen Clark?

No fucking way.

Yea Hide is responding to it..................as soon as his comments get out into the media he's off to the phone and licking arse. Yep pissed all right no one with any ounce of integrity would immedialty back track on what they have publicly said.

That Key is by far the most popular PM to date may have more to do with working class boy ‘done’ good. Kiwi’s in most part like to see success especially if they have come from the grass roots of NZ society However I think his popularity will get a good boot up rear very soon. Birds tell me he is not the Auckland poster boy he once was.

The World Cup TV Fiasco not to mention is Party Central contribution. Looks like that is not going to be goer now due to the design brief. Then there is the Worth cock-up or more to the point the lack of it. The ETS scheme where the taxpayer is to subsidize the really big polluters and lets not forget Keys cock-up with the MP perks. Key bought all this shit down on English for no reason at all. He was trying to be the good guy and showing how well his MP’s were as compared to the English Members. Just watch Anne Tolley if you want any further reminders of the incompetence of Key’s cabinet. I could go on but I doubt if you, being so colour blind, will ever see the picture.


Skyryder

[MisterD]

I could go on but I doubt if you, being so colour blind, will ever see the picture.

You sound worryingly like Edbear posting in RR at this point...the blue pills, Skyryder, the blue pills.

[Flatcap]

You sound worryingly like Edbear posting in RR at this point...the blue pills, Skyryder, the blue pills.

I think he prefers the RED pills

[MikeL]

Latest Stuff poll.

What is the National-led Government's major achievement in its first year?


Steering NZ through stormy economic times
No. The helmsman has very little choice over where the boat goes, given the realities of international credit ratings and other considerations. Do you really think Key and English are managing the economy more responsibly than Clark and Cullen would have? Where is your evidence for this?
Successfully managing a broad coalition
Yeah right. With the Act leader boasting that he has National ministers round his little finger, and the loose cannons in the Maori Party... Being pleased that you haven't yet fallen off doesn't change the fact that you are walking on a tightrope. The Auckland Super City
The most you can say about this is that the jury is still out. Ask the people several years down the track how the savings have translated into lower rates bills and better service...
National education standards
Have very little to do with the standard of learning and teaching, and a lot to do with political posturing. In theory nothing wrong with attainment tests, but will you be happy when your primary school child is denied the chance to do science, music, art and others because the school is paranoid about its rating on the league tables for literacy and numeracy? New free trade agreements
If you think that globalisation is such a good thing, why don't you advocate abolishing all borders and have open slather? If you think that destroying local industry and compromising our standards of food and biosecurity for the sake of buying cheap furniture from China represents an achievement, it only proves that like the proverbial accountant, you know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
New laws on using phones while driving
More nanny state.
The national cycleway
Yes! (If it ever happens...)
John Key's Letterman appearance
I won't repeat what I have written elsewhere about this. Suffice to say that opinions differ, and what to some was a triumph of marketing was to others a shameful debasement and loss of dignity.


So, one out of ten...

[MisterD]

No. The helmsman has very little choice over where the boat goes, given the realities of international credit ratings and other considerations. Do you really think Key and English are managing the economy more responsibly than Clark and Cullen would have? Where is your evidence for this?

The helmsman is however, vital to make sure the boat doesn't capsize during the storm...given that we had so little room to manoever thanks to C&C's deliberate pissing of money up the wall on antiquated trainsets etc, we're lucky that we'll be coming out of recession without them hanging even greater debt burdens around our necks in the name of "stimulus".

[MisterD]

I think he prefers the RED pills

They're bad for you they are, they give you nasty hallucinatory side effects that make you unable to take responsibility for your actions...

[AllanB]

Rodneys a dildo.

Frankly I don't mind if Mr Key is a pretty figurehead for NZ (though I believe he is a very effective PM) - I'm just happy there is a PM who doesn't scare the F out of me when he/she smiles!

[Hans]

If you made it to 20 without being to the left, you don't have a heart. If you're older than 20 and you're still to the left, you don't have a brain. How old are you, Skyrider?

[James Deuce]

So, one out of ten...
Umm Mike, it was a poll on Stuff.co.nz.

It's not my work personally.

I was merely commenting on the humour inherent in the massive majority of responses clicking on the last option. I wasn;t making a political statement, either Nationalist or Liarbour.

[Robert Taylor]

Talk about a wishy washy Prime Minister. Hides slagging off at Key by saying that he (Key) has not done nothing but bring up the idea of cycle-way is nothing short of a political knee job to the groin. Key being ‘relaxed’ about this is akin to offering Hide his other ball to wallop as desert after the main course. It might go down well at a Sunday BBQ with the vicar in attendance after a sermon on ‘turning the other cheek’ but too the man in the street Key’s response to Hides slagging............. beggers belief.

If there was ever a case of political cowardice then this is it. Is it any wonder that I have no respect for this man…………..not only is Key a liar but when he is humiliated he is ‘relaxed’ about it. And after Hyprocrite Hide ignores Keys directive on 'partner perks.'

Jeesus John………………show some fucking ball for God’s sake. Ya come from working class stock or have you forgotten……………or is that only important at election time??

Skyryder

So are you insinuating that you have to come from working class stock to run the country? Helen Cluck didnt and she made a right old mess of things....
Norman Kirk came from working class stock. Did he do a good job? Absolutely not!
Its not about where you came from, its about whos capable.

[mowgli]

So are you insinuating that you have to come from working class stock to run the country?
Nah, think he was suggesting that working class stick up for themselves.

[trustme]

Key does not have to do anything about Rodders . Rodders is quite capable of fucking his own career without any help from John. If Key reacts it places the coalition under strain, public opinion will stuff Hide without Key having to get involved in this mess. I find it refreshing that we no longer have a control freak in charge.

[scissorhands]

Delegation management? what the fuck is that? smiling like a mascot and saying everything is cool? we're cool...chill...yeah....

what happens when the delegator becomes unpopular

[MikeL]

Umm Mike, it was a poll on Stuff.co.nz.

It's not my work personally.



I didn't intend to imply it was your own work. In fact I would have been surprised if it had been. It's clearly an insult to the intelligence of a kiwibiker...

[pete376403]

The helmsman is however, vital to make sure the boat doesn't capsize during the storm...given that we had so little room to manoever thanks to C&C's deliberate pissing of money up the wall on antiquated trainsets etc, we're lucky that we'll be coming out of recession without them hanging even greater debt burdens around our necks in the name of "stimulus".

Warren Buffett (super capitalist, you must have heard of him) just spent over $US26Billion on railways (Burlington Northern Santa Fe). He thinks railways aren't such a bad thing after all. Have you been in touch with the "Oracle of Omaha" to let him know he is pissing his money up a wall? I'm sure he'd like to know.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies/management/2009-11-04-buffett-interview_N.htm

[Skyryder]

So are you insinuating that you have to come from working class stock to run the country? Helen Cluck didnt and she made a right old mess of things....
Norman Kirk came from working class stock. Did he do a good job? Absolutely not!
Its not about where you came from, its about whos capable.

Who said anything about running the country. Out in the school yard that both Key and I came from if ya got ya self dissed you at least had the balls to stand up for yourself. It's called self respect and in doing so you allso got some respect from your peers. Shit any school kid will tell you that.

That's what Key has forgotton.

Key is a a wimp. No other name for his response to Hide slagging him. And you respect this??? And why do you continually bring up Clarke in Key's defence. The womans history........move on.......I have.

And as for Key being capable jeez where have you been for the last few months??


Skyryder

[trustme]

Who said anything about running the country. Out in the school yard that both Key and I came from if ya got ya self dissed you at least had the balls to stand up for yourself. It's called self respect and in doing so you allso got some respect from your peers. Shit any school kid will tell you that.

That's what Key has forgotton.

Key is a a wimp. No other name for his response to Hide slagging him. And you respect this??? And why do you continually bring up Clarke in Key's defence. The womans history........move on.......I have.

And as for Key being capable jeez where have you been for the last few months??



Skyryder

One year after being elected & Key continues to be top of the pops on the polls by a country mile. Seems like the rest of the country does not agree with you.
If I was Key I would probably do the same , but on the quiet behind closed doors there would be a few words exchanged ,like 'don't fuck with me again'.
Key now has the fat boy & the maori party right where he wants them. The beauty of it is all he had to do was introduce a bit of transparency to MP's spending. Lets also not forget Chris Carter & Bill English, enough toes are getting stubbed that unless our parliamentarians are extremely slow learners the rorts are about to come to an end. We didn't need rules or micro management just public accountability , a different way of skinning the cat.

[James Deuce]

I didn't intend to imply it was your own work. In fact I would have been surprised if it had been. It's clearly an insult to the intelligence of a kiwibiker...

Thank goodness. Ever since the wisdom teeth came out I've been second guessing myself - and losing the thread of the conversation halfway through.

[Grahameeboy]

Talk about a wishy washy Prime Minister. Hides slagging off at Key by saying that he (Key) has not done nothing but bring up the idea of cycle-way is nothing short of a political knee job to the groin. Key being ‘relaxed’ about this is akin to offering Hide his other ball to wallop as desert after the main course. It might go down well at a Sunday BBQ with the vicar in attendance after a sermon on ‘turning the other cheek’ but too the man in the street Key’s response to Hides slagging............. beggers belief.

If there was ever a case of political cowardice then this is it. Is it any wonder that I have no respect for this man…………..not only is Key a liar but when he is humiliated he is ‘relaxed’ about it. And after Hyprocrite Hide ignores Keys directive on 'partner perks.'

Jeesus John………………show some fucking ball for God’s sake. Ya come from working class stock or have you forgotten……………or is that only important at election time??

Skyryder

I see that as not allowing himself to be annoyed by sillyness

[Skyryder]

I see that as not allowing himself to be annoyed by sillyness


So, one of the leaders of Key's coalition partners calls Key a 'do nothing Prime Minister' and you just see this as being silly. Most, and this cuts across the poliitcal spectrum see it as weak and wimpish. But come to think of it people who lie are weak and wimpish. They are deceptive by nature and do not have the moral fibre to stand up for their decisions and actions.


Skyryder

[MisterD]

Warren Buffett (super capitalist, you must have heard of him) just spent over $US26Billion on railways (Burlington Northern Santa Fe). He thinks railways aren't such a bad thing after all. Have you been in touch with the "Oracle of Omaha" to let him know he is pissing his money up a wall? I'm sure he'd like to know.


Point 1) I'm sure he didn't pay way over the odds because he was desperate to make some kind of political point and spend the money to fuck over the next government.

Point 2) Just because a railway makes sense in a big country with lots of big cities, does not make it so for a little country with only one proper city and a bunch of towns scattered about over two islands...surely you understand that?

[Skyryder]

Point 1) I'm sure he didn't pay way over the odds because he was desperate to make some kind of political point and spend the money to fuck over the next government.

Point 2) Just because a railway makes sense in a big country with lots of big cities, does not make it so for a little country with only one proper city and a bunch of towns scattered about over two islands...surely you understand that?

Labour bought back the railway becasue NZ buisness wanted them too. Long story this one. Do a google on this I can't be arsed.

Skyryder

[Skyryder]

One year after being elected & Key continues to be top of the pops on the polls by a country mile. Seems like the rest of the country does not agree with you.
If I was Key I would probably do the same , but on the quiet behind closed doors there would be a few words exchanged ,like 'don't fuck with me again'.
Key now has the fat boy & the maori party right where he wants them. The beauty of it is all he had to do was introduce a bit of transparency to MP's spending. Lets also not forget Chris Carter & Bill English, enough toes are getting stubbed that unless our parliamentarians are extremely slow learners the rorts are about to come to an end. We didn't need rules or micro management just public accountability , a different way of skinning the cat.

You may well be right but unless he sorts Hide out in the public arena it just looks as if Key is a puppet too the agenda of the right...............he is but he making a good job that he is not. Someone else is pulling Key's strings. Ashcroft is my bet.

And as for ACT this I think says it all.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10607818

And this but to be fair I think his cock ruled his common sense. Still no excuses if you are going to claim the moral high ground.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10607845

Skyryder

[trustme]

At this stage Key occupies the moral high ground, why go mud wrestling with the fat boy.

I presume you mean Lord Ashcroft, thats a fucking long bow even for you mate.

[Skyryder]

At this stage Key occupies the moral high ground, why go mud wrestling with the fat boy.

I presume you mean Lord Ashcroft, thats a fucking long bow even for you mate.

Yep it's a gut feeling no question on that...................but the interesting thing is that Ashcroft, as far as I know, had no interest in NZ politics until Key got into Parliment and Ashcrofts fortune is from speculation, as is Key's.

And why was Key so secretive about his meeting with Ashcroft. Just look at how Key responds to his meeting with Ashcroft when questioned And you think there is nothing going on here. Jeez Key had guilt written all over his face.


Skyryder

[trustme]

Care to share your drugs ???:killingme:killingme

[Grahameeboy]

So, one of the leaders of Key's coalition partners calls Key a 'do nothing Prime Minister' and you just see this as being silly. Most, and this cuts across the poliitcal spectrum see it as weak and wimpish. But come to think of it people who lie are weak and wimpish. They are deceptive by nature and do not have the moral fibre to stand up for their decisions and actions.


Skyryder

Given his background I would say he has learnt to chose his battles..remember he used to be called the "silent assassin

[pete376403]

Given his background I would say he has learnt to chose his battles..remember he used to be called the "silent assassin
SMILING assassin

In several interviews John Key mentiones the loss of $1 to 1.5 billion dollar US and how he had to prevent that from happening. Merrill Lynch only once faced
that loss in the late nineties and that was when it stood to loose that money with the demise of the LTCM fund.
In the wake of the LTCM collapse John Key had to fire hundreds of people. It earned him the nickname “The Smiling assassin.
It is safe to conclude that John Key knew about the fund and was involved at a minimum with the cleanup after the debacle. It is also safe to conclude that John Key knew full well that his bank was involved in irresponsible and reckless speculative behaviour well before the “subprime” crisis errupted."

[Grahameeboy]

SMILING assassin

In several interviews John Key mentiones the loss of $1 to 1.5 billion dollar US and how he had to prevent that from happening. Merrill Lynch only once faced
that loss in the late nineties and that was when it stood to loose that money with the demise of the LTCM fund.
In the wake of the LTCM collapse John Key had to fire hundreds of people. It earned him the nickname “The Smiling assassin.
It is safe to conclude that John Key knew about the fund and was involved at a minimum with the cleanup after the debacle. It is also safe to conclude that John Key knew full well that his bank was involved in irresponsible and reckless speculative behaviour well before the “subprime” crisis errupted."

Smiling is silent....but apologies for oversight...

And?

[Flatcap]

You may well be right but unless he sorts Hide out in the public arena it just looks as if Key is a puppet too the agenda of the right...............he is but he making a good job that he is not. Someone else is pulling Key's strings. Ashcroft is my bet.

Skyryder


That's an impressive string of cliches!