View Full Version : How many K's does a bike last?
prettybillie
6th November 2009, 09:43
Hey all
I recently had a friend come over and help my put my mirrors back on after a track day to take the bike up to get a warrant and rego. My bike has done about 13,500k's and my friend looked at it and said 'shit it's done high k's'
Now realistically I know that 13,500's is not high, but it made me start thinking about how many k's do you realistically get out of a bike before it goes to the great track day in the sky?
TOTO
6th November 2009, 09:48
depends on how you trash it. your one should last about 300 000 - 400 000 kms minimum :niceone:
riffer
6th November 2009, 09:49
My RF900's done 140,000 kms and shows no sign of slowing down...
Dodger
6th November 2009, 09:50
My Hyosung is at 45,000 and going fine.
well was until a car failed to give way last night :angry2:
Cajun
6th November 2009, 09:52
Hey all
I recently had a friend come over and help my put my mirrors back on after a track day to take the bike up to get a warrant and rego. My bike has done about 13,500k's and my friend looked at it and said 'shit it's done high k's'
Now realistically I know that 13,500's is not high, but it made me start thinking about how many k's do you realistically get out of a bike before it goes to the great track day in the sky?
your 600 done bugger all my k4 is over 50,000 on its current speedo (i have two, one is for when its used on the track), and which means that reading is low.
Alot of people don;t like seeing high kms espially on the small cc bikes, since they think been thrashed rev more, but meh thats what they are designed to do. i know guys in states who have done 100k+ miles on there k4/k5 600
prettybillie
6th November 2009, 09:58
depends on how you trash it. your one should last about 300 000 - 400 000 kms minimum :niceone:
You know me Tots - I put around like a little Nana!
prettybillie
6th November 2009, 09:59
My Hyosung is at 45,000 and going fine.
well was until a car failed to give way last night :angry2:
Dude - are you ok?????
KiwiGs
6th November 2009, 10:02
It is kind of a "how long is a piece of string" question.
Properly maintained >100000 km easy.
My GS has nearly 70000 and so far everything I have measured is within spec, so far *touches wood*
If the bike has not been maintained it could be a ticking time bomb
Icemaestro
6th November 2009, 10:11
From what I've heard general rule is about half that of cars....my toyota corona was still going strong when it was written off at 300000km....keep it in good order and tell your mate (13000km!!????) to learn how to read
Dodger
6th November 2009, 10:11
Dude - are you ok?????
(sorry for the hijack)
Yes I'm fine, small scrape on the ankle and a bruise. no need for an ACC claim. :)
The bike is a little worse off, with the left foot peg/gear change snapped off, and damage to the front guard, indicators, brake lever, and other scrapes.
Lets hope I can get the bike sorted and get down to the Burt Munro in 2 1/2 weeks :crybaby:
The car had it's front bumper partly removed as I hit the front right.
Mully
6th November 2009, 10:15
That's cos most Gixxers have been ridden at warp factor 9 into a tree loooong before 13K by someone who thinks they're Rossi.
Insanity_rules
6th November 2009, 10:18
Hey all
I recently had a friend come over and help my put my mirrors back on after a track day to take the bike up to get a warrant and rego. My bike has done about 13,500k's and my friend looked at it and said 'shit it's done high k's'
Now realistically I know that 13,500's is not high, but it made me start thinking about how many k's do you realistically get out of a bike before it goes to the great track day in the sky?
Mileage is a very subjective thing. I've had bikes do up to and over 200,000 Ks and I've had one worn out by 70,000.
Your mileage isn't high mate, nothing to worry about.
StoneY
6th November 2009, 10:19
(sorry for the hijack)
Yes I'm fine, small scrape on the ankle and a bruise. no need for an ACC claim. :)
The bike is a little worse off, with the left foot peg/gear change snapped off, and damage to the front guard, indicators, brake lever, and other scrapes.
Glad your OK get that ankle x-ray'd, sonic scanned, and nuclear imaged because YOU HAVE ALREADY paid the bill! :yes:
My GSXR I have now shows 84,000 kms and still as strong as hell
I suspect its actually second time round but as a re-reg I cannot tell for sure
My last GSXR 1100 (also a '90 model) did 280,000 before I sold it and went just as strong on sale as when I bought it at 34,000kms
Big 4's and big twins run forever if the owners do the oil and filters
I have a mate with an R80 from 1980(ish) its done 450,000kms and never had its engine opened up, legend has it
If ya had a 2 smoke, 13k WOULD be high, but yeah 13k is nothing at all to ya 600 4 cyl
I would guess you should get 100k trouble free if you do ya oil n filters regular
Ragingrob
6th November 2009, 10:25
The viffer is just coming up 90,000k and has no problems whatsoever, in fact, never had a mechanical problem in my 25,000k of ownership thus far :2thumbsup
prettybillie
6th November 2009, 10:32
Okay this is a dumb question that I should already know the answer to so excuse my ignorance, but with just regular everyday road riding at what intervals do you need to do the oil and filter?
vifferman
6th November 2009, 10:37
If your everyday riding includes communtering and what not, then every 6 months for oil, and oil+filter every 12.
If you're a "weekend warrior" or fairweather rider, then go by the kilometreage, and do it every 6000km or whatever your bike manufacturer recommends.
Oh - and I dunno what mileage the VFR's done; odo says 5x,xxx miles, but it's a lying scoundrel, and shy of about 3 or 4,000 miles at least.
VFR's just lightly run in - I know of other ones that have done up to 850,000 MILEs, and many in the US of Mrka that have high 6-figure sums.
CrazyFrog
6th November 2009, 10:44
Okay this is a dumb question that I should already know the answer to so excuse my ignorance, but with just regular everyday road riding at what intervals do you need to do the oil and filter?
Regular road riding = 5000km
Thrashing/Track = Every meeting
Oil is cheap compared to an engine blow up.
No reason why a modern 4 stroke shouldn't easily do 100,000km given normal/recommended service intervals.
ckai
6th November 2009, 10:46
*touches wood*
Mate, we don't need to know that! I mean come on, this is a family show :)
For speed demons I would have thought "high k's" would be a similar story as a supercar, i.e. porsche, lambo etc. If one of them is considered high k's it has 100,000km on the clock. How long do they last? If it's italian, not very - they generally get written off before their useful life is over! Germans? Millions of km's (I maybe a little biased ;))
I've heard of bikes lasting half a mill. Now that's insane. But they don't make 'em like that anymore.
KiwiGs
6th November 2009, 10:49
Mate, we don't need to know that! I mean come on, this is a family show :)
.
What can I say I really like my bike.....
Cajun
6th November 2009, 10:50
Okay this is a dumb question that I should already know the answer to so excuse my ignorance, but with just regular everyday road riding at what intervals do you need to do the oil and filter?
suzuki manual says every 6000.
I do mine every 5000.
vifferman
6th November 2009, 10:56
I've heard of bikes lasting half a mill. Now that's insane. But they don't make 'em like that anymore.
Scuzeme?
They still make VFRs, y'know (although the new ones have those camchain thingies...)
You're right in a way - many bikes have fairly high-performance engines, doing very high revs, with high piston speeds, and that takes a toll. However (but!) they're also made to pretty high standards. But (however!) even though the engines usually just keep going, if they're not crahsed, something else will let them down: gears or gearbox parts, starter motor, clutch basket or something else that makes them uneconomic to fix due to part no longer being available, particularly bodywork.
Take the VFR: most engine bits for the earlier ones (1986 through 1997) are still available, but if you crash one, you're pretty much screwed, as even aftermarket plastics are hard to come by now.
prettybillie
6th November 2009, 10:58
suzuki manual says every 6000.
I do mine every 5000.
Oh shit - this means mine is overdue by about 3,500ks......eeeek I better book it in!
Cajun
6th November 2009, 11:00
Oh shit - this means mine is overdue by about 3,500ks......eeeek I better book it in!
hmmm on suzuki its normall 1000,6000,12000,18000,24000
so you are off by only 1500.
the major service isn't until 24,000 (valve check)
this service just an oil/filter check over.
Mully
6th November 2009, 11:13
suzuki manual says every 6000.
I do mine every 5000.
....because you're fucked if you're gonna let those bastards tell you what to do...... :innocent:
Cajun
6th November 2009, 11:19
....because you're fucked if you're gonna let those bastards tell you what to do...... :innocent:
hahah nah i know my odomotor reads low, and since it does a few trackdays a yeah, and every 5000 is easy to remmeber than every 6000, easy to remember, and only cost $100 for oil & filter change, since i do the work myself.
Cheshire Cat
6th November 2009, 11:19
lol what a wolly thing to say!!! 13,000 jeez. I can do that in 6months.
depends what bike it is and how you ride it and how old it is etc etc.
I think yours is going to last a very long time if you keep treating it the way you do (and don't crash) lol :sunny:
crazyhorse
6th November 2009, 11:19
Morepower's TL has done over 112,000 - so by no way is 13,500 high km's. Frankly, its still nearly new....... :)
Headbanger
6th November 2009, 13:14
Oh shit - this means mine is overdue by about 3,500ks......eeeek I better book it in!
Book it in?...to what?
Your not really going to pay someone to change your oil?,Its easier then washing the bike.
Find the bolt under the bike,undo it, engine oil falls out,put the bolt back in, fill her up with oil.
Of course, if you were just joking about booking it in.....:angry::wari::wari::wari:
prettybillie
6th November 2009, 13:34
Book it in?...to what?
Your not really going to pay someone to change your oil?,Its easier then washing the bike.
Find the bolt under the bike,undo it, engine oil falls out,put the bolt back in, fill her up with oil.
Of course, if you were just joking about booking it in.....:angry::wari::wari::wari:
Okay - that sounds easy enough. How do you change the filter?
firefighter
6th November 2009, 13:52
Okay - that sounds easy enough. How do you change the filter?
Unscrew it, half fill new one with oil, wipe a little oil around the seal, screw on hand tight (until you can't turn it any further/being a girl as hard as you can)
drain oil and remove filter, then screw in sump plug, then the filter, then top up oil. Undo oil filler cap when draining oil.
Oh yeah, don't drop your sump plug in the oil pan, make sure the oil is warm (not hot) and don't forget to put the washer back on. It's a good idea to change this every second oil change. If you lose it get a proper one from repco. It's a special washer!
A proper oil pan is about $15 and worth it. There is also a lot more oil in the filter than you think, so make sure the pan is under it when you unscrew it!
Wipe the area where the filter attaches to the bike clean before screwing on new filter.
Easy peasy.
The hardest part is choosing the oil.
Corse1
6th November 2009, 14:04
Talked to a bloke racing an ST2 in bears racing. He regularly races it and puts the road gear back on and uses it normally. He has owned it since new and when doing a sevice at 100,000km he pulled the barrels off and re-ringed it. He was surprised he could still see the hone marks in the cylinders and after the pull down realised there was no need to have gone that far.
He was acting purely on mileage.
On the other hand you don't follow my mates YZF 1000 if you don't want to breath burnt oil and he's at 60,000km. I know the bikes been fanged to death and he does not believe in maintenance.
Look after them and most modern bikes will return very high mileage.
prettybillie
6th November 2009, 14:10
Oh shit - this means mine is overdue by about 3,500ks......eeeek I better book it in!
I am a dick. :Oops:I just rang Colman's to see when the last service was. I bought the bike at 12,000k's so asumed the service wasn't done. Anyhoo, it has has it's 12,000k service so I am sweet as a butter bean for about another 1500k's - which will take me quite some time!!!!
Cheshire Cat
6th November 2009, 14:15
I am a dick. :Oops:I just rang Colman's to see when the last service was. I bought the bike at 12,000k's so asumed the service wasn't done. Anyhoo, it has has it's 12,000k service so I am sweet as a butter bean for about another 1500k's - which will take me quite some time!!!!
I'll help :innocent: haha
vifferman
6th November 2009, 14:28
Unscrew it, half fill new one with oil, wipe a little oil around the seal, screw on hand tight
What?
You don't need to fill it with oil - it will do that itself.
I dunno 'bout your filters, but mine is horizontal, and if I try to put oil in it, I'll end up with it dribbling out on the front left header while I'm refitting it. (Even brake cleaner has a job getting ALL the oil off, and burning il isn't the most fragrant, unless it's Castrol R.)
Just put in a bit less than the volume required for oil+filter, run it a while, then top it up again.
bsasuper
6th November 2009, 14:28
92 CBR900 did 170,000kms before the bottem end went, my fault for skipping a couple of oil changes though
prettybillie
6th November 2009, 14:35
It sure seems like the older bikes have more staying power dare I say!
firefighter
6th November 2009, 14:37
What?
You don't need to fill it with oil - it will do that itself.
I dunno 'bout your filters, but mine is horizontal, and if I try to put oil in it, I'll end up with it dribbling out on the front left header while I'm refitting it. (Even brake cleaner has a job getting ALL the oil off, and burning il isn't the most fragrant, unless it's Castrol R.)
Just put in a bit less than the volume required for oil+filter, run it a while, then top it up again.
I've always done it like this with cars, and just mirrored it for the bike. Yes I know it fills itself. Some put oil in it first some do'nt.
Tomato tomayto situ. I like to know I have oil in there from the time I first push the ignition. Maybe it's not common practice with bikes?
firefighter
6th November 2009, 14:39
It sure seems like the older bikes have more staying power dare I say!
That's because they are older and have more time to accumulate distance. I'm sure the modern bikes will last as long if not binned
Swoop
6th November 2009, 14:42
...and don't forget to put the washer back on. It's a good idea to change this every second oil change. If you lose it get a proper one from repco. It's a special washer!
Repco are fucking useless with sump washers. I have tried a few around the place...
Appco were good.
PB. Start gathering up the required components for a change.
1. Oil. (Refer to your manual for this).
2. Filter. (same as above).
If in doubt, go and see the good folks at Cycletreads & they'll see you right.
Then you are ready for when the change is required. Holler out if assistance is needed.
I'm sure the modern bikes will last as long if not binned
Do gixers' get to that stage? Could The_Dover shed some light on this?
R6_kid
6th November 2009, 14:49
I recently had a friend come over and help my put my mirrors back on after a track day to take the bike up to get a warrant and rego. My bike has done about 13,500k's and my friend looked at it and said 'shit it's done high k's'
Your friend is a retard. Do they post on here?
howdamnhard
6th November 2009, 14:55
Hey all
I recently had a friend come over and help my put my mirrors back on after a track day to take the bike up to get a warrant and rego. My bike has done about 13,500k's and my friend looked at it and said 'shit it's done high k's'
Now realistically I know that 13,500's is not high, but it made me start thinking about how many k's do you realistically get out of a bike before it goes to the great track day in the sky?
Relax ,13,500km is nothing:yes:. My bike is over 150,000km and still going strong:scooter:. Does your friend only ride on weekends?
Cheshire Cat
6th November 2009, 14:56
Your friend is a retard. Does she post on here?
LOL!!!! funny, BUT! that's not very nice assuming it was a female saying that.Sexist!!! :spanking:
Str8 Jacket
6th November 2009, 15:08
I bought my FXR even though I knew that it was in second hand condition and required on going maintenance. I figured that it had done so many k's (over 50,000) and was still going strong so it must be fine. To date, it has gone through 3 warrants fine and has only had minor mechanical issues...
howdamnhard
6th November 2009, 15:09
I am a dick. :Oops:I just rang Colman's to see when the last service was. I bought the bike at 12,000k's so asumed the service wasn't done. Anyhoo, it has has it's 12,000k service so I am sweet as a butter bean for about another 1500k's - which will take me quite some time!!!!
How often do you need to service your bike? Most bikes are every 6000km.
prettybillie
6th November 2009, 15:19
Your friend is a retard. Do they post on here?
Mwahahahahahahaha - it is a dude who has a blue license and no bike hahaha
NighthawkNZ
6th November 2009, 15:21
How Many K's Does A Bike Last?
Trillions if it is on a trailer
Pussy
6th November 2009, 17:56
At 13500km your bike is barely run-in!
Keep clean oil and oil/air filters in it and it will last till you're well sick of it
Mom
6th November 2009, 18:10
Well, the blue lovely has done almost 94,000 kms. She is an old girl now, not as limber as she used to be, and certainly not as "flash" as some of these new fan dangled beasties around. In the time I have had her she has needed some attention to her front forks, some preload spacers, the springs were surprisingly ok, no flash adjusters for this gal :nono:
Spark plugs, new front tyre, and a new chain (do not count, all bikes need those after time) She has also had a seat recover.
The clutch was crap ( but most likely had already had the plates replaced) she blew a clutch cover gasket. So that was new clutch springs, and a gasket.
The tank was rusty, caused all sorts of problems, eventually a clean and rust treat of her tank innards and a carb clean sorted that.
Meh, I can see a cam cover gasket on the list, along with a tappet/cam chain/valve job in the nearish future for her.
Your bike is a BABY!!!
Regular oil filter/oil changes and just ride her.
george formby
6th November 2009, 18:17
Hey all
I recently had a friend come over and help my put my mirrors back on after a track day to take the bike up to get a warrant and rego. My bike has done about 13,500k's and my friend looked at it and said 'shit it's done high k's'
Now realistically I know that 13,500's is not high, but it made me start thinking about how many k's do you realistically get out of a bike before it goes to the great track day in the sky?
My mates 900ss is sitting on 140,000k. My TDM nearly 50'000k & all is well with them both. I had an old CB750 which had 84'000k on the clock when I sold it & I'm sure that was second time round. Used a bit of oil though.
Oy tink your friend may have a fetish for the new & shiny rather than the polished & cherished.
AllanB
6th November 2009, 18:28
Anyhoo, it has has it's 12,000k service so I am sweet as a butter bean for about another 1500k's - which will take me quite some time!!!!
Eh? you have another 4,500 to cover yet (next due at 18,000).
Or if you do low kms once a year.
The big question is ....... da da daaaaaaaa ............. what oil to run ................... arhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
rocketman1
6th November 2009, 18:41
Alot of of bike do in excess of 150,000 kms no problems.
Its all in the maintenace,.......... no maintenace= no go.
Paul in NZ
6th November 2009, 19:38
Hey all
I recently had a friend come over and help my put my mirrors back on after a track day to take the bike up to get a warrant and rego. My bike has done about 13,500k's and my friend looked at it and said 'shit it's done high k's'
Now realistically I know that 13,500's is not high, but it made me start thinking about how many k's do you realistically get out of a bike before it goes to the great track day in the sky?
So do you hang out with stupid people just to feel clever or is there another reason?
old git
6th November 2009, 19:54
1980 XS100..............327,684K'S THEN THE CRANK SNAPPED IN TWO !!!!
It was/is for sale on here for $250 but if theres an xs11 owner who wants it ....come take it for $20 which will pay for the first jug or two in its memory.
................
Pedrostt500
6th November 2009, 21:47
I always recomend you get a work shop manual for your bike, even if you are not mechanicaly minded, it will give you a good indication of the inner workings of your bike, you may never do 90% of what is in the manual, but the understanding of your bike will be well worth the $70 or so value of the manual, it will also explain alot of the simple jobs you can do your self.
MDR2
7th November 2009, 13:23
Hey all
I recently had a friend come over and help my put my mirrors back on after a track day to take the bike up to get a warrant and rego. My bike has done about 13,500k's and my friend looked at it and said 'shit it's done high k's'
Now realistically I know that 13,500's is not high, but it made me start thinking about how many k's do you realistically get out of a bike before it goes to the great track day in the sky?
I'd say its about as fucked as it can get... I'll give you a grand for it... being the honest guy that I am.
nico
7th November 2009, 14:41
My RF900's done 140,000 kms and shows no sign of slowing down...
same km's as the mighty vfr :yes: and still sounds/feels good
Swoop
7th November 2009, 15:28
LOL!!!! funny, BUT! that's not very nice assuming it was a female saying that.Sexist!!! :spanking:
Strange. I read that as a poke at a male, not a female.
R6_kid
7th November 2009, 15:41
Mwahahahahahahaha - it is a dude who has a blue license and no bike hahaha
Well that probably goes quite some way to give a clue of how much they know about bikes.
LBD
7th November 2009, 20:23
Country ridden bikes last twice as long as city ridden.
Oil and filter changes at half recomended intervals will only help lonevity. Rest of PM's, follow manufacturers recomendations...
Pixie
8th November 2009, 09:29
Country ridden bikes last twice as long as city ridden.
Oil and filter changes at half recomended intervals will only help lonevity. Rest of PM's, follow manufacturers recomendations...
With modern lubrication technology there is absolutely nothing to be gained by performing more frequent oil changes than the manufacturer recommends
dipshit
8th November 2009, 10:21
With modern lubrication technology there is absolutely nothing to be gained by performing more frequent oil changes than the manufacturer recommends
True. In fact i prefer to use a better quality synthetic oil and changing at the manufacturer's recommendation than a cheaper oil more frequently.
Richard Mc F
8th November 2009, 20:48
pfft fAt jELLY (FJ1200) has 168000km, might need new clucth fibres before the next big 2 up tour, still running well no need to top up oil betwen changes, as for the oil argument, more frequent changes are better than fancy spec oils unless you race ( even then I am not so sure) but any motorcycle oil and filter at specified intervals you cannot go wrong
MarkH
9th November 2009, 09:25
My RF900's done 140,000 kms and shows no sign of slowing down...
With that many kms there are bound to be things that need doing - you better get those brakes sorted quickly though. ;)
The Stranger
9th November 2009, 13:43
So do you hang out with stupid people just to feel clever or is there another reason?
Hmm, I assumed 'shit it's done high k's' comment in the OP to mean high for the age of the bike (not knowing the age of the bike myself however).
Given that there is room for more than one interpretation it does raise teh question, who is the stupid one?
Badjelly
9th November 2009, 13:59
You know me Tots - I put around like a little Nana!
You put around? Best not to advertise that too widely!
The Stranger
9th November 2009, 14:04
True. In fact i prefer to use a better quality synthetic oil and changing at the manufacturer's recommendation than a cheaper oil more frequently.
It had to happen one day, I agree with with you.
Link (https://shop.sae.org/technical/papers/2007-01-4133). I did have a link to an earlier study showing a similar result, but alas, I am unable to locate that at the moment.
prettybillie
9th November 2009, 14:09
You put around? Best not to advertise that too widely!
I mean put as in put put as in potter - oh god you've got me all wrong ha
monkeymsea
9th November 2009, 21:38
My zxr250 has done 73000 k's and is still pulling..
That reminds me anyone want to buy a zxr250? :P
kwaka_crasher
9th November 2009, 21:57
I mean put as in put put as in potter - oh god you've got me all wrong ha
When spelling goes wrong... it's putt.
gammaguy
9th November 2009, 21:59
Hey all
I recently had a friend come over and help my put my mirrors back on after a track day to take the bike up to get a warrant and rego. My bike has done about 13,500k's and my friend looked at it and said 'shit it's done high k's'
Now realistically I know that 13,500's is not high, but it made me start thinking about how many k's do you realistically get out of a bike before it goes to the great track day in the sky?
as the man said in the movie "blade runner"......the candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long.:yes:
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