OK Cop Members, Who was it?

[Lou Girardin]

Who posted the porn on the dept PC's?
Was it you Spud?
Or You Mr Dog?
It involved bestiality so I'd suspect someone named Dog, to be honest.
There was no vegetable sex to my knowledge. :spudwave:

[Waylander]

Hehe think they've opened a can of worms on this one. You guys just can't catch a break can you. Wonder what WINJA will have to say about this....

[scumdog]

Who posted the porn on the dept PC's?
Was it you Spud?
Or You Mr Dog?
It involved bestiality so I'd suspect someone named Dog, to be honest.
There was no vegetable sex to my knowledge. :spudwave:


The porno/offensive images were actually 330 pictures of Lous head :lol: :lol: :lol:

[justsomeguy]

Cops watch porn..........

Oh my God, I never would have guessed. I'm soo surprised. I'm completely astonished!!!!

Oh Oh oH oHHH :confused:

:whocares:

[justsomeguy]

It involved bestiality........ :spudwave:

http://www.cincyusa.com/store/images/photos/sexysow.jpg

:killingme :killingme :killingme :killingme

[WINJA]

EVERY COP INVOLVED SHOULD LOSE A WEEKS PAY OR SOMETHING FOR EACH EMAIL OFFENCE, ALL THE PORN THAT WAS NOT SUITABLE FOR EXHIBITION IN NZ SHOULD BE LOOKED INTO FURTHER , MAYBE SOME COPS SHOULD DO TIME IN PRISON, FOR AN ORGANISATION THAT SAYS ITS STRETCHED TO THE LIMIT FINANCIALLY AND MAN POWER WISE THEY SEEM TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME FUCKING AROUND , IF ALL THE TIME SPENT WASTING TIME ON THESE EMAILS WAS SPENT ON CRIME MAYBE 5 RAPES , 2 MURDERS AND 12 BURGLERIES COULD HAVE BEEN SOLVED ,WHO KNOWS WHAT IT WOULD ADD UP TO, FUCK THE PIGS IF ANY ONE AT OUR WORK IS CAUGHT WITH SOFT PORN ON THEIR COMPUTER THEY ARE SACKED ON THE SPOT

[gav]

You work?????

[Hitcher]

Where there are computers with unrestricted Internet access, there is temptation. Obviously cops are no different to any other sector of society. But they have to be SEEN to be above this sort of practise. Rob Robinson is having a bad year, poor bastard.

[scumdog]

EVERY COP INVOLVED SHOULD LOSE A WEEKS PAY OR SOMETHING FOR EACH EMAIL OFFENCE, ALL THE PORN THAT WAS NOT SUITABLE FOR EXHIBITION IN NZ SHOULD BE LOOKED INTO FURTHER , MAYBE SOME COPS SHOULD DO TIME IN PRISON, FOR AN ORGANISATION THAT SAYS ITS STRETCHED TO THE LIMIT FINANCIALLY AND MAN POWER WISE THEY SEEM TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME FUCKING AROUND , IF ALL THE TIME SPENT WASTING TIME ON THESE EMAILS WAS SPENT ON CRIME MAYBE 5 RAPES , 2 MURDERS AND 12 BURGLERIES COULD HAVE BEEN SOLVED ,WHO KNOWS WHAT IT WOULD ADD UP TO, FUCK THE PIGS IF ANY ONE AT OUR WORK IS CAUGHT WITH SOFT PORN ON THEIR COMPUTER THEY ARE SACKED ON THE SPOT

What are you trying to say? How would they handle it in the loony-bin??

[WINJA]

What are you trying to say? How would they handle it in the loony-bin??
KEEP DREAMING, YOUR BIGGEST FEAR IS THAT IM NOT IN THE LOONYBIN, BUT SAYING THAT IF IM NUTS I WONT BE IN ANY TROUBLE FOR RUNNING YOUR SORRY ARSE OVER.
YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IM SAYING YOU PIGS ARE WASTING OUR TAX DOLLARS AND OXYGEN , LOOKING UP PORN WHEN CRIME GOES UNSOLVED , YOURE A COCK AND I HOPE YOUR HOUSE GETS ROBBED AND YOUR BIKE GETS KNICKED SO YOU CAN GET SOME OF YOUR OWN MEDECINE.

[dangerous]

KEEP DREAMING, YOUR BIGGEST FEAR IS THAT IM NOT IN THE LOONYBIN, BUT SAYING THAT IF IM NUTS I WONT BE IN ANY TROUBLE FOR RUNNING YOUR SORRY ARSE OVER.
YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IM SAYING YOU PIGS ARE WASTING OUR TAX DOLLARS AND OXYGEN , LOOKING UP PORN WHEN CRIME GOES UNSOLVED , YOURE A COCK AND I HOPE YOUR HOUSE GETS ROBBED AND YOUR BIKE GETS KNICKED SO YOU CAN GET SOME OF YOUR OWN MEDECINE.
fuk you realy are full of it aye....... SD would be too busy pissing up at the local, praticing whellies in his rig or breaking the speed limit on his hog again to be worried bout looking at porn.

You winja are putting all coppers in the same bucket of tar..... use ya brain will ya :confused: hes no cock..... if he is then hes a cock that has only ever given out 1 ticket to a biker...... now you would think that 'that' would be illegal wouldent ya.

[k14]

Well I don't see what the problem is. Every cop that willingly accepted this porn and condoned it should loose their jobs, no questions asked.

At the company I worked for over the uni holidays one of the senior staff members got sacked for this, and from what I heard it was nothing too bad, just made a bad decision. If what everything that has come through in the media is true (yeah I know they will over state everything) then they should be sacked.

Don't know why they should be treated any different to anyone else. I thought all companies would go for instant dissmissal for things like this on company time. Furthermore if they are dumb enough to access this on company computers they probably shouldn't be there in the first place.

Just my 2c.

[scumdog]

KEEP DREAMING, YOUR BIGGEST FEAR IS THAT IM NOT IN THE LOONYBIN, BUT SAYING THAT IF IM NUTS I WONT BE IN ANY TROUBLE FOR RUNNING YOUR SORRY ARSE OVER.
YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IM SAYING YOU PIGS ARE WASTING OUR TAX DOLLARS AND OXYGEN , LOOKING UP PORN WHEN CRIME GOES UNSOLVED , YOURE A COCK AND I HOPE YOUR HOUSE GETS ROBBED AND YOUR BIKE GETS KNICKED SO YOU CAN GET SOME OF YOUR OWN MEDECINE.

You're dead right my biggest fear is that you're not in the loony-bin (well, actually that's a lie, my biggest fear is tha my Mrs find out I've been sleeping with her sister over the last six months). :whistle:

Wasting your taxes?? How much tax do you pay in the loony-bin??? - and don't worry, you won't be able to run my arse over 'cos I aon't visiting YOUR loony-bin!!

Robbed?? robbed??? they all know robbing MY place is the last thing they'll do in this life - try me!!

[spudchucka]

Who posted the porn on the dept PC's?
Was it you Spud?
Or You Mr Dog?
It involved bestiality so I'd suspect someone named Dog, to be honest.
There was no vegetable sex to my knowledge. :spudwave:
I'll let you know tomorrow if I've made the dole que.

[Waylander]

Just out of curiosity, does any of this bad rep for the cops come out of the south island or is it just north?

[spudchucka]

Where there are computers with unrestricted Internet access, there is temptation. Obviously cops are no different to any other sector of society. But they have to be SEEN to be above this sort of practise. Rob Robinson is having a bad year, poor bastard.
In interesting point is that only Sergeants and above have unlimited access to the internet through work PC's. You can't help what other people send you through the e-mail system though. Best to delete any naughty stuff you receive once you have taken a quick glance at the material to make sure its something that shouldn't be on the system.

[riffer]

Kind of sad, really.

Still, what kind of mug accesses porn on the work computer?

I would probably think Spudchucker has the good oil on what's happening. Looks to me like the frontline police are too busy to go anywhere near this.

Sounds to me like typical middle-management SNAFU's...

Hope you don't loose too many workmates out of this one guys - you jobs may just be getting a bit harder for the next few months - and god help us all if the pollies decide to "do something about it".

[justsomeguy]

I'd be really surprised if the cops involved do not get fired at the minimum. Cos if they don't then all the employment lawyers will have a new legal precedent to play with.:Punk:

[Ixion]

I'd be really surprised if the cops involved do not get fired at the minimum. Cos if they don't then all the employment lawyers will have a new legal precedent to play with.:Punk:

Got to say it sounds a bit witch-hunterish to me. I work in IT and I can say for certain that most people have a bit of dodgy stuff (not talking serious bukkake goatse here, just "inappropriate")on the PCs. (Oddly enough the chicks are often worse than than the guys )

Cops are human , 330 out of how ever many thousand isn't that many.

How much of the "horror, disgusting, sack 'me all" righteous indignation is really a bit of "oh good here's a chance for us to get a bit of our own back, and see a cop get a telling off".

Would we really care if it was 330 bank tellers instead ?

[onearmedbandit]

Would we really care if it was 330 bank tellers instead ?

No. But thats the point. (I'm fence-sitting on this btw, I don't know enough of the facts relating to the case. But the general point is that it is the Police.)

[Gremlin]

Boy, those police can't get a break, they take it from the front, side and rear :lol: , some may be their own doing, but lets face it. Porn is not a huge taboo anymore, depending on what it is (esp. kiddies, animal etc). Most sectors of the work force have it, and mates send it to each other for a laugh.

They certainly aren't too clever accessing it on a work computer, since most companies/institutions/departments log all traffic.

However, the people doing the sacking need to be careful. A lot of places don't have rules covering internet usage, and I don't know what the police have. If you don't have rules, then it is harder to fire people for a breach, since it is technically not a breach of any rules...

Ol hawkins wife must really have her work cut out for her... :killingme

[Ixion]

No. But thats the point. (I'm fence-sitting on this btw, I don't know enough of the facts relating to the case. But the general point is that it is the Police.)

Well, yes. But they're not **morals** police. (I'm assuming here that none of it was actually illegal-level stuff, kiddie porn etc.If any of them were silly enough to be caught with that then they deserve to go for a very high jump) .

The police have to be seen to be obeying the law. If they don't they (rightly) get come down on harder than Joe Public.

But pornography, "feelthy peectures" etc , is not,per se, illegal.They're policemen not choir boys. They took an oath to enforce the law, not an oath of chastity.

[matthewt]

Big deal, so 330 police force had porn on their email. With a total staff of just over 10,000 this means 3.3% of the staff were busted. Fuck it's an epidemic.

Keep in mind a "snapshot" of the email system was taken and then looked at. Given you can't control what people email you I wonder how many officers simply hadn't checked their email for a couple of days or were a bit slow on the delete key.

[Krusti]

As was said on TV interview, some was possibly illegal porn...been referred to chief censor for his take on it...Yes almost every one gets mailed crap but as spud said delete the bloody stuff! Does not take a lot of thought to work that out.

If you have been warned then tuff shit for being stupid.

It's a bit like carrying heroin in to Bali then screaming.....please don't shoot me..

On the other hand how many had email in their in box that they hadn't read and did not know was there

If there was any border line stuff I hope they also hit the other Govt Dept who sent it....Watch out Winz...IRD...etc

Most used key this AM around the country....DELETE:killingme

[Sniper]

Just out of curiosity, does any of this bad rep for the cops come out of the south island or is it just north?

Usually North, but Im waiting for the flak to hit the south

[Hitcher]

Big deal, so 330 police force had porn on their email. With a total staff of just over 10,000 this means 3.3% of the staff were busted. Fuck it's an epidemic.

Keep in mind a "snapshot" of the email system was taken and then looked at. Given you can't control what people email you I wonder how many officers simply hadn't checked their email for a couple of days or were a bit slow on the delete key.
Employers provide computers, email and Internet access as business tools. Storing objectionable material hardly qualifies as legitimate business use.

[Ixion]

Employers provide computers, email and Internet access as business tools. Storing objectionable material hardly qualifies as legitimate business use.

They're coppers, not florists. World needs to accept that when you get several thousand red blooded blokes (and chicks) there will be a bit of racy stuff around.

They have internal disciplinary systems to deal with anyone who gets caught breaching policies (as do most companies). And some common sense as to when to apply them.

It doesn't need to be blown up into a national scandel

Sheesh, is there anyone on this site who doesn't have a few Playboy's/Playgirls (as appropriate) tucked away somewhere ?

[k14]

Yeah I don't care what the coppers do in their own time on there home computers the fact is that they used company resources to do it. Anyone dumb enough to look up porn on company computers where their internet usage can be tracked is pretty dumb, but for them to also save it just shows how thick they really are. I thought most companies would take a fairly severe line to this sort of behaviour on company computers in company time.

[Big Dave]

Sheesh, is there anyone on this site who doesn't have a few Playboy's/Playgirls (as appropriate) tucked away somewhere ?

Like these?
http://www.retrocrush.com/babes.html

[idb]

Who posted the porn on the dept PC's?
Was it you Spud?
Or You Mr Dog?
It involved bestiality so I'd suspect someone named Dog, to be honest.
There was no vegetable sex to my knowledge. :spudwave:
So just what do you call vegetable sex - beetiality maybe?

[Ixion]

Like these?
http://www.retrocrush.com/babes.html

Yeah

[1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 Are you happy now . ]

[Storm]

You're a bloody legend Dave. Thanks heaps :2thumbsup

[HenryDorsetCase]

Boy, those police can't get a break, they take it from the front, side and rear :lol: , some may be their own doing, but lets face it. Porn is not a huge taboo anymore, depending on what it is (esp. kiddies, animal etc). Most sectors of the work force have it, and mates send it to each other for a laugh.

They certainly aren't too clever accessing it on a work computer, since most companies/institutions/departments log all traffic.

However, the people doing the sacking need to be careful. A lot of places don't have rules covering internet usage, and I don't know what the police have. If you don't have rules, then it is harder to fire people for a breach, since it is technically not a breach of any rules...

Ol hawkins wife must really have her work cut out for her... :killingme

I think the point here is that the Pleece DO have a clearly defined policy covering all "inappropriate" material. There are 330 odd cases, 61 in Canterbury, out of ~9000 sworn staff.

basically I see it as a media beat up. Ppl are having a chance to teeth suck and finger point, but I bet this particular workplace is a hell of a lot better than most other workplaces with 9000 employees.

as for the dumbasses getting caught, its their own fault, and they should take their lumps: just like the lawyer in the paper (Christchurch Press) today.

(for those who havent read it, not porn, the lawyer smacked someone in the face and shattered his eyesocket.....convicted of assault and had his name all over the paper)

[HenryDorsetCase]

So just what do you call vegetable sex - beetiality maybe?


BAHAHAHAHAHAHAH :2thumbsup

made me snort coffee thru my nose.

[gav]

Yeah I don't care what the coppers do in their own time on there home computers the fact is that they used company resources to do it. Anyone dumb enough to look up porn on company computers where their internet usage can be tracked is pretty dumb, but for them to also save it just shows how thick they really are. I thought most companies would take a fairly severe line to this sort of behaviour on company computers in company time.
If they are actually accessing websites then, yeah, fair enough. If its photos etc received by email then thats different, alot of people probably hit the delete key, but do they also empty the recycled bin or trash bin often? Most probably don't and think they have deleted it, while its still on their computer.

[matthewt]

Employers provide computers, email and Internet access as business tools. Storing objectionable material hardly qualifies as legitimate business use.

I agree but re-read the info on this. They took a snapshot of the email system. This doesn't mean the porn was stored on the PC's. It just means people recieved dodgy email's. I get those all the time from my brother which is why he doesn't have my work email account.

I agree that business computers are for just that, business. But taking a snapshot of the email server is quite different from nabbing someone by what internet sites they accessed.

PS: I noticed you post during the day. Are you on leave or using your work computer for non work related activities ??

[haynez]

EVERY COP INVOLVED SHOULD LOSE A WEEKS PAY OR SOMETHING FOR EACH EMAIL OFFENCE, ALL THE PORN THAT WAS NOT SUITABLE FOR EXHIBITION IN NZ SHOULD BE LOOKED INTO FURTHER , MAYBE SOME COPS SHOULD DO TIME IN PRISON, FOR AN ORGANISATION THAT SAYS ITS STRETCHED TO THE LIMIT FINANCIALLY AND MAN POWER WISE THEY SEEM TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME FUCKING AROUND , IF ALL THE TIME SPENT WASTING TIME ON THESE EMAILS WAS SPENT ON CRIME MAYBE 5 RAPES , 2 MURDERS AND 12 BURGLERIES COULD HAVE BEEN SOLVED ,WHO KNOWS WHAT IT WOULD ADD UP TO, FUCK THE PIGS IF ANY ONE AT OUR WORK IS CAUGHT WITH SOFT PORN ON THEIR COMPUTER THEY ARE SACKED ON THE SPOT
FANTASTIC WORK WINJA, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAID. I HAD ALOT OF RESPECT FOR THE NZ POLICE UNTIL I WAS A VICTIM OF CRIME AND DISCOVERED THAT SEATBELT CHECKPOINTS AND LOOKING AT SNUFF FILMS ALONG WITH MEXICANS RAPING DONKEYS WERE MORE IMPORTANT.

[StoneChucker]

I haven't read ALL the replies here, but these are my thoughts:

My, it must be election time again... What with Helen surviving in-flight carnage and now the big crack down on the "seedy underworld" of the police force. I mean, it it too much to expect that police officers can't be robots? They should do nothing but work, while giving out no tickets and responding to ALL calls, with 100% accuracy. While they are not working, they should be sleeping, dreaming about going back to work... pffft!

The fact of the matter is that police are JUST like everyone else in normal jobs. And, thats because being a police officer IS a normal job. Has anyone stopped to consider that these images may have been unsolicited? Have you EVER been sent something slightly objectionable via email, of which you didn't ask for? You don't always delete things immediately, and even when you do, they are never really deleted, always recoverable with cache copies in places experienced people can easily find. You might be surprised to know that some of the images respectable officers are now being investigated on, are nothing more than black and white adult humour sketches, cartoons even.

While it is obvious that work computers are not the place for personal data of this sort, and there should be some stronger network restrictions regarding internet and e-mail policies, I really feel this is nothing more than a media fuelled, pre-election "witch hunt". Not everyone looks at pornography (and not all pornography has to be disgusting, vile and repulsive acts by human or animal), even those who do not partake in it can't deny that it IS legal between consenting adults, and the purchasers of such content. Why should police officers not be allowed the choice that all of us have? I have no problem with members of the police looking at adult material should they so please. My ONLY proviso is that they do it at home, and keep it off the business computers, like everyone else who works has to do (those that choose to look at such material).

I'm sick of the continous attacks on the police. There's no wonder why they are under staffed, and why the existing staff are under pressure!

PS: I'm not saying I do, or don't, this is an impartial opinion.

[scumdog]

FANTASTIC WORK WINJA, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAID. I HAD ALOT OF RESPECT FOR THE NZ POLICE UNTIL I WAS A VICTIM OF CRIME AND DISCOVERED THAT SEATBELT CHECKPOINTS AND LOOKING AT SNUFF FILMS ALONG WITH MEXICANS RAPING DONKEYS WERE MORE IMPORTANT.

Are you a relation of WINJAS? you're trolling rather well if you're not!!

I use to have a lot of respect for the public - then I met 'people' like you!!! :lol: :killingme

[ZorsT]

Are you a relation of WINJAS? you're trolling rather well if you're not!!

I use to have a lot of respect for the public - then I met 'people' like you!!! :lol: :killingme

Well said Mr Dog, Well said.

[NotaGoth]

quickly *CloseZ* what on my comp screen....

*makeZ* no comment...








erm well....

so long as its not kiddy porn i see nothing wrong with it other than the fact its on work computers.... save the stuff for at home..

[inlinefour]

You work?????

I seriously doubt it. The only thing he is capable is trolling and being a wan....(PT) :msn-wink: :killingme

[spudchucka]

Hope you don't loose too many workmates out of this one guys - you jobs may just be getting a bit harder for the next few months - and god help us all if the pollies decide to "do something about it".
I don't think that many will lose their jobs. There are a very small number that have material that may result in prosecution, these folks may be the ones that get the chop. The vast majority consisted of material that was innapropriate but not objectionable. These folks will face internal disciplinary measures but not the sack. The organisation couldn't handle losing 300 odd cops in one go.

[Sniper]

FANTASTIC WORK WINJA, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAID. I HAD ALOT OF RESPECT FOR THE NZ POLICE UNTIL I WAS A VICTIM OF CRIME AND DISCOVERED THAT SEATBELT CHECKPOINTS AND LOOKING AT SNUFF FILMS ALONG WITH MEXICANS RAPING DONKEYS WERE MORE IMPORTANT.

Dont you have better things to do than piss people off, like watching paint dry???

[Sniper]

Well said Mr Dog, Well said.

Ditto

(Yes I know 10 characters)

[inlinefour]

Dont you have better things to do than piss people off, like watching paint dry???

Well said that man deserves a DB :msn-wink:

[The Preacher]

I haven't read ALL the replies here, but these are my thoughts:

My, it must be election time again... What with Helen surviving in-flight carnage and now the big crack down on the "seedy underworld" of the police force. I mean, it it too much to expect that police officers can't be robots? They should do nothing but work, while giving out no tickets and responding to ALL calls, with 100% accuracy. While they are not working, they should be sleeping, dreaming about going back to work... pffft!

The fact of the matter is that police are JUST like everyone else in normal jobs. And, thats because being a police officer IS a normal job. Has anyone stopped to consider that these images may have been unsolicited? Have you EVER been sent something slightly objectionable via email, of which you didn't ask for?

I agree 100% with you StoneChucker.
I do find the situation of the media in all this quite humors, they are ready to bag the boys in blu :Police: but very quite of the fact some of the emails originated from their own organization. Say know more! :mega:

[idb]

I agree 100% with you StoneChucker.
I do find the situation of the media in all this quite humors, they are ready to bag the boys in blu :Police: but very quite of the fact some of the emails originated from their own organization. Say know more! :mega:
Actually yeah...it's getting a bit boring reading posts slagging off the cops.
Do we have any journalists here?
Has anyone had a bad journalist experience?

[Waylander]

Actually yeah...it's getting a bit boring reading posts slagging off the cops.
Do we have any journalists here?
Has anyone had a bad journalist experience?
Big Dave is one but he's a good journalist.Works for a motorbike mag.:2thumbsup

[Big Dave]

Big Dave is one but he's a good journalist.Works for a motorbike mag.:2thumbsup

Thank you very much - my main job is associate art director - I do also write a bit, but it's more as a features writer than a journo.

chz

[Waylander]

Thank you very much - my main job is associate art director - I do also write a bit, but it's more as a features writer than a journo.

chz
Oh, hehe never knew all the details man I just remember you sayin someting about a few stories and stuff goin into a mag (KiwiRider?) Anyway, have to say you got a nice job.:2thumbsup

[scumdog]

Funny how when you get your six-monthly neg. rep. it comes from somebody who has only posted a dozen times or less (like 3 in one case) and the person responsible only joined KB a matter of days ago??? :shifty:

[spudchucka]

Cop bashing seems to be a standard way of becoming known on Kiwi Biker. :confused:

[dangerous]

Funny how when you get your six-monthly neg. rep. it comes from somebody who has only posted a dozen times or less (like 3 in one case) and the person responsible only joined KB a matter of days ago??? :shifty:
mate that means that you DIDENT get a rep as untill you have been a member for so long..... rep doesent regester, 1 too you nill to them.

[soundbeltfarm]

they need to sack all the cops that DID NOT have porn on their com. hahaha
its human nature to look.
i know heaps of people who work in offices and the shit they send me from work coms.
instead of worring about a bit of porn unless its illegal.
and maybe if they spend alot of time looking at porn they should get sorted.
hey if they are looking at porn they arn't out giving us tickets.

[MikeL]

What's "sexually explicit material"?
Answer: sexual images or writings that people may or may not approve of. A concept that can be analysed, discussed, debated... One for which a range of objective and subjective assessments and opinions can be put forward...


What's "pornography?"
Answer: something bad that evokes an emotive response and a knee-jerk reaction and can be used as an effective weapon against others by people who can't or won't think for themselves.
A weasel word. It means what you want it to mean.

Think about it.

[Ixion]

What's "sexually explicit material"?
Answer: sexual images or writings that people may or may not approve of. A concept that can be analysed, discussed, debated... One for which a range of objective and subjective assessments and opinions can be put forward...


What's "pornography?"
Answer: something bad that evokes an emotive response and a knee-jerk reaction and can be used as an effective weapon against others by people who can't or won't think for themselves.
A weasel word. It means what you want it to mean.

Think about it.

T'is easy. Pornography is sexually explicit stuff that I'm not into.Scum that peddle it should be castrated and hanged . Erotic art is sexually explicit I am into. Artists that create and distribute it should get grants from the gubbermint.

[Lou Girardin]

Isn't it funny that with all the problems assailing the Police at the moment, it's sex that's gets the bosses wound up.
It may be cynical of me to think this, but isn't it a heaven sent opportunity for the bosses to divert attention from themselves onto the rank and file and to rid themselves of some faces that don't fit.
The sight of Robinson and his cronies with faces like doom as they released the news was hilarious. After all, most of the images were soft core stuff.
That's what happens when you get born-agains in positions of power.
BTW Scumdog, my wife likes my head. :msn-wink:

[scumdog]

BTW Scumdog, my wife likes my head. :msn-wink:


Lucky for you she does!!! :niceone: :msn-wink:

PS couldn't resist the PT! :laugh:

[Lou Girardin]

Hey Scummy, don't the bosses consider all your Easyrider mags to be porn?

[dangerous]

Hey Scummy, don't the bosses consider all your Easyrider mags to be porn?
:killingme yeah good point Lou....... bet ya SD has a back seat full of them :Punk:

[scumdog]

Hey Scummy, don't the bosses consider all your Easyrider mags to be porn?


SSSHHHH! They'd nick them off me if they knew I had them!!

P.S. Big tragedy in the Finegand fire 0f '89 - ALL my Easyriders I had in a spare locker at work got burnt in the fire, some dated back to the sixties and the stack was about 3 feet high, sob! :crybaby:

[Storm]

SSSHHHH! They'd nick them off me if they knew I had them!!

P.S. Big tragedy in the Finegand fire 0f '89 - ALL my Easyriders I had in a spare locker at work got burnt in the fire, some dated back to the sixties and the stack was about 3 feet high, sob! :crybaby:
Thousands of dollars worth of collectors treasure. I hope you had a memorial drink for them or at least attempted to leap into the burning building to save them ?