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R6_kid
7th November 2009, 14:50
What's the deal with tyre placement on the rim? I've heard people saying that there is a mark which is supposed to be either aligned with, or positioned opposite the tyre valve?

I'll be paying to get it balanced, but $60 is bit steep to get the tyres swapped for this poor student.

Tyres are Pirelli SuperCorsa Pro's

tri boy
7th November 2009, 15:05
$60 is alot cheaper than repainting/repairing your rim after you possibly cark lumps of alloy out with levers if your new to doing tyres.
The dots generally refer to the lightest part of the tyre , to be aligned with the valve stem. Not sure with the corsa's though.

CookMySock
7th November 2009, 15:47
After watching the balancing being done and having had it explained to me, I thought that was the easy part. Theres nothing to a balancing machine at all..

Steve

hayd3n
7th November 2009, 15:50
sports tubeless tyres are pretty straight forward dosent take much to get em off/on balancing isint that hard either

Bangbug
7th November 2009, 15:51
That'd be $60 from cycletreads then?
+ the $6 for getting rid of them (unless you're taking them home)
Better than $35 from botany honda... for one.... after taking the rim into them!
At least you can ride up to cycletreads and they do it all for ya!

Ragingrob
7th November 2009, 15:59
Mike at Drury performance (ex treads) swapped my front discs + tyre twice over about an hour, I just took the bike in and he did everything, cost me $40. You could give him a ring see what he'd charge just to quickly swap a tyre.

Chrislost
7th November 2009, 16:47
What's the deal with tyre placement on the rim? I've heard people saying that there is a mark which is supposed to be either aligned with, or positioned opposite the tyre valve?

I'll be paying to get it balanced, but $60 is bit steep to get the tyres swapped for this poor student.

Tyres are Pirelli SuperCorsa Pro's

Thats $60 off the bike, its only $40 if you take the rims in to them!
get the top of a bucket and use it over the rim so you dont fuckit!

White trash
7th November 2009, 16:54
Quite frankly, if you'll pay to get 'em balanced, it's worthwhile getting them to fit 'em at the same time.

Drury tyres look after people real well but it's probably a bit far for you.

BASS-TREBLE
7th November 2009, 17:57
If you're keen to learn it, youtube videos on fitting and DIY balancing.
With 2 levers and a rim protector you can fit any tyres easily.

Sidewinder
7th November 2009, 18:03
its so easy bro!
i did like 8 tyre swaps at hampton downs the other thursday on chops bike.
helps having a bead brecker aswel!:rockon:
takes like 10mins to take rims off and change rubber and rims back on!

awayatc
7th November 2009, 18:03
fitting tyres not that hard.....watch a few good videos on it on the net first if you haven't done it before....
balancing pretty straight forward to..
depends on your attitude as well,
Personaly I like to at least be able to do everything myself.....
Then it becomes a choice wether you want to do it yourself or pay somebody else...
NOt lack of options

Sidewinder
7th November 2009, 18:06
balancing?? who does that these days?

White trash
7th November 2009, 18:19
balancing?? who does that these days?
People that don't want vibrations through the bike.

Sidewinder
7th November 2009, 18:23
People that don't want vibrations through the bike.

just get robert taylor to set it up sweet then

White trash
7th November 2009, 18:31
just get robert taylor to set it up sweet then
Yeah, coz Robert's a real whiz at balancing wheels.

nallac
7th November 2009, 19:11
Cost me $30 to get my last set swapped over.
RMC Yamaha..

johan
7th November 2009, 20:23
Does anyone balance the rim at all (without tyre)?

From what I've seen the heaviest part of the rim is not always where the valve is.

CookMySock
7th November 2009, 22:26
Does anyone balance the rim at all (without tyre)? Yes I have seen this done. it makes sense if you are fitting top quality tyres.

Speaking of quality, I have seen michelin tyres fitted to michelin-branded rims and the balancing machine came up 000 000 with no weights fitted.

Steve

Tony.OK
8th November 2009, 06:53
Does anyone balance the rim at all (without tyre)?

From what I've seen the heaviest part of the rim is not always where the valve is.

Its a good thing to do if your static balancing say at the track mate, even if its to find out the true heaviest part of the rim so you can mark it. Then when changing tyres line up the red dot with that so it makes it easier to static balance.

t3mp0r4ry nzr
8th November 2009, 07:31
its gonna cost you about half that to get set up with tyre levers, then another $20 for rim protectors. You then have to make up a bead breaker, then buy some stick on wheel weights to balance.

Some good vids on you tube on how to do it. It takes a bit of practise to get it done fast though.

Worth getting set up with your own tools and doing it yourself though, given the rate of rear tyre usage of big bikes.

Pixie
8th November 2009, 07:35
Tyre changer


http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=94916&highlight=tyre

Kickaha
8th November 2009, 07:39
Yes I have seen this done. it makes sense if you are fitting top quality tyres.

It makes no sense at all because as soon as you fit tyres you will need to rebalance it anyway


Speaking of quality, I have seen michelin tyres fitted to michelin-branded rims and the balancing machine came up 000 000 with no weights fitted.Steve

I've seen that happen on cheap budget tyres fitted on crap steel Toyota Corrolla wheels

oldrider
8th November 2009, 07:49
Balancing = Dynabeads! Forget the knockers, it's working for me! Magic! :yes:

CookMySock
8th November 2009, 07:52
I have also seen wheels physically machined to balance them, so you are only ever balancing the tyre, not the rim.

Steve

Kickaha
8th November 2009, 07:58
I have also seen wheels physically machined to balance them, so you are only ever balancing the tyre, not the rim.

Steve

It doesn't really matter at the end of the day whether you're only balancing the tyre because the rim has been machined to balance it or you're balancing a rim+tyre assembly, the only thing it may change is the amount of weight you have to attach

boman
8th November 2009, 08:00
I have also seen wheels physically machined to balance them, so you are only ever balancing the tyre, not the rim.

Steve

It has been my experience that you generally are balancing the tyre not the rim. Most rims are quite well balanced, as they have been machined after casting.

Viscount Montgomery
8th November 2009, 09:42
FFS, 60 bucks to fit tyres, unbe-fucking-lievable! Grind down 3 old spanners for levers. Rim protectors- snip strips of plastic from an ice-cream container. Lubricant - a bowl of soapy water. Bead-breaker - a carjack under your car on top of the tyre, or T-shaped board levered under the car. Whip off the bikes' wheel, tear off the discs. Study the various vids on the net on how to peel the tyres on and off. Go for it. Ditto for balancing, easy stuff...

CookMySock
8th November 2009, 10:59
It has been my experience that you generally are balancing the tyre not the rim. Most rims are quite well balanced, as they have been machined after casting.Not mine, but I ride a low cost bike. It's almost like mine have had the hubs machined off-center or something.

Steve

Rodney007
8th November 2009, 20:45
balancing?? who does that these days?

are all the hardout's running non-balanced rims/tyres?:gob:

Sidewinder
8th November 2009, 20:46
are all the hardout's running non-balanced rims/tyres?:gob:
id just say lazy and no time on race day

H00dz
8th November 2009, 20:53
Mike at Drury performance (ex treads) swapped my front discs + tyre twice over about an hour, I just took the bike in and he did everything, cost me $40. You could give him a ring see what he'd charge just to quickly swap a tyre.

I agree see mike hes the man !!!

Sidewinder
8th November 2009, 20:57
I agree see mike hes the man !!!

no ya got it all rong, im the man cuz its all about me remember

Chrislost
8th November 2009, 20:59
are all the hardout's running non-balanced rims/tyres?:gob:

It makes sence that a dunlop trye from the dunlop factory is the same as a dunlop tyre from the dunlop factory....

If your really worried buy a static balancer for around 250 and do it every time.

wheel weights are expensive tho!

Sidewinder
8th November 2009, 21:00
It makes sence that a dunlop trye from the dunlop factory is the same as a dunlop tyre from the dunlop factory....

If your really worried buy a static balancer for around 250 and do it every time.

wheel weights are expensive tho!

yes mr cycle treads!:bye:

H00dz
8th November 2009, 21:11
no ya got it all rong, im the man cuz its all about me remember

Of course what was I thinking "Your the Man" :2thumbsup:buggerd::2thumbsup