Very positive wireless interview with Kerre

[Ixion]

Somebody (Woodham ?). 1ZB I think.

Even forgive them for waking me up on Sunday morning.

Proferred unprompted that we were getting general public support because people saw us as "the thin end of the wedge" (her words).

That's middle NZ speaking.

We definately need to start pushing this point. People are aware of it and we can get much more political traction than arguing about numbers.

(And this is AFTER the ACC advertisment, too)

[riffer]

As I suspected.

Joe Public ain't that stupid after all.

Totally agree with you on tactics from now on. :yes:

[klingon]

Linky link link?

[Ms Piggy]

Somebody (Woodham ?).

Kerre Woodham. Any chance of a link Les?

[Naki Rat]

Link here (http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/thisweek/hourrecs/Sun,%20Nov%208%2009.00%20trn-newstalk-zb-akl.asf) in the meantime. Interview starts at the 16:30 mark.

Another great presentation by Les :clap:

[BMWST?]

Somebody (Woodham ?). 1ZB I think.

Even forgive them for waking me up on Sunday morning.

Proferred unprompted that we were getting general public support because people saw us as "the thin end of the wedge" (her words).

That's middle NZ speaking.

We definately need to start pushing this point. People are aware of it and we can get much more political traction than arguing about numbers.

(And this is AFTER the ACC advertisment, too)

thats what we want....now we need to get the AA to realise that that is the point,AND that as motorcyclists many are also "motorists" AND members of the AA and for them to oppose the targeting of specific groups.

[Pixie]

Somebody (Woodham ?). 1ZB I think.

Even forgive them for waking me up on Sunday morning.

Proferred unprompted that we were getting general public support because people saw us as "the thin end of the wedge" (her words).

That's middle NZ speaking.

We definately need to start pushing this point. People are aware of it and we can get much more political traction than arguing about numbers.

(And this is AFTER the ACC advertisment, too)
I've been thinking:The class that Campervans fall into is getting a $285 levy increase.The Motorcaravan Association may be a good ally to approach.

[yungatart]

I spoke to an 80 year old lady on Friday night. Her thoughts...disgusting of the govt to treat us so badly...if levies need to go up, then everyone should pay just a little extra. She doesn't have family who ride, so she was not biased.
She also confessed she'd love to have learnt to ride when she was younger...I did tell her she was never too old.
I think the public are on our side!

[Paul in NZ]

If you want an ally - try the Maori party.

Lets face it there is a pretty good argument to increase the acc fee for people movers and 7 seaters etc so beloved of the peoples whom value large and extended families. Afer all, a simple accident can involve more people and cost more money.

Once you have a class classification system then anything goes.

You could try Federated Farmers or the horsey types those 4WD's are a problem..

[Ixion]

I have formally requested Ms Turia to tell us their position. Not heard anything yet .

[Mully]

I have formally requested Ms Turia to tell us their position. Not heard anything yet .

That's because us white MFs have been raping and pilliaging them for years.

Well, that's what Hone tells us.

[Dadpole]

I have formally requested Ms Turia to tell us their position. Not heard anything yet .
I expect their support was bought with the intended foreshore & seabed legislation repeal.

[James Deuce]

If you want an ally - try the Maori party.

Lets face it there is a pretty good argument to increase the acc fee for people movers and 7 seaters etc so beloved of the peoples whom value large and extended families. Afer all, a simple accident can involve more people and cost more money.

Once you have a class classification system then anything goes.

You could try Federated Farmers or the horsey types those 4WD's are a problem..


I have formally requested Ms Turia to tell us their position. Not heard anything yet .

No going to either. They've done a deal on the Foreshore and Seabed Act and we're the collateral damage.
(As that clever Dadpole chap already said)

[pzkpfw]

Interesting slant from the media:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3043327/Motorcyclist-injured-after-swerving-to-avoid-car

"Motorcyclist" not "biker".

Mentions the poker run (pubs too) but also that it was for charity.

Mentions why - swerve to avoid car.

Mentions gear (it saved life).

etc.


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This other articel is less positive: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3043094/Biker-injured-in-bridge-crash/

But does mention a rock climbing accident. Makes bikes look dangerous (duh) but at least might raise the "why are rock climbers not taxed?" question.

[riffer]

This other article is less positive: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3043094/Biker-injured-in-bridge-crash/

But does mention a rock climbing accident. Makes bikes look dangerous (duh) but at least might raise the "why are rock climbers not taxed?" question.


Don't agree - mentions "he was sent flying off the bridge" and "he was knocked from his bike".

What else do you want - a sentence saying "and it was all the bastard cager's fault."

Definitely a change in how they are reporting accidents seems to be occurring.

[kwaka_crasher]

Interesting slant from the media:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3043327/Motorcyclist-injured-after-swerving-to-avoid-car

"Motorcyclist" not "biker".

Mentions the poker run (pubs too) but also that it was for charity.

Mentions why - swerve to avoid car.

Mentions gear (it saved life).

etc.

That headlight-on rule is working wonders... :2thumbsup :whistle:

[Kinje]

I spoke to an 80 year old lady on Friday night. Her thoughts...disgusting of the govt to treat us so badly...if levies need to go up, then everyone should pay just a little extra. She doesn't have family who ride, so she was not biased.
She also confessed she'd love to have learnt to ride when she was younger...I did tell her she was never too old.
I think the public are on our side!

Was talking with my mother the other night and she agrees that the proposed changes are outrageous. She's doesnt ride but has got nothing against bikes, middle New Zealand right there.

[Maha]

Link here (http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/thisweek/hourrecs/Sun,%20Nov%208%2009.00%20trn-newstalk-zb-akl.asf) in the meantime. Interview starts at the 16:30 mark.

Another great presentation by Les :clap:

Fast forward it to 16.35, that where the interview starts.

[Jantar]

Kerre Woodham is on the air tonight doing talkback. As she has already interviewed Ixion on this matter, lets help out her talk back and get a few of us on air. I intend ringing her shortly after 9:00 pm to get the news out about the Bikeoi.

0800 801080 - Newstalk ZB.

[grusomhat]

And for those that want to listen, streaming address is

http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/audio2/newstalkzbwn.asx

Who was just on? Some good points, was waiting for you to ask for cages to take care with the number of bikers on the road. Was that were you were heading?
And it's bikersagainstacc.ORG.NZ not co.nz

Anyway, well done and hope to hear some more.