Cannabis Users Likely To Be Well Educated, Top Wage Earners, Survey says

[MrMelon]

Ottawa, Ontario:
Lifetime cannabis users are likely to be single, well educated, and earning an above average salary, according to a recent survey of 13,900 Canadians conducted by Health Canada and the Canadian Executive Council on Addictions.

Approximately 45 percent of the Canadian population over age 15 reported having used cannabis during their lifetime - up from 23 percent in 1989, the survey reported. Lifetime cannabis use increased with education and income. Among those with some post-secondary education, 52 percent reported having used cannabis. By comparison, among those without a high school degree, only 35 percent reported having tried cannabis. In
addition, 55 percent of those respondents with a "high income adequacy" said they had used cannabis, as opposed to only 43 percent of those with a "low income adequacy."

Among those who reported consuming cannabis, most said that they used it infrequently and did not "experience[e] serious harm due to their cannabis use."

Full text of the survey is available from the Canadian Executive Council on Addictions website at:
http://www.ccsa.ca/pdf/ccsa-004028-2005.pdf


AND

Heavy Cannabis Use Not Associated With Cognitive Deficits,
Study Says

Belmont, MA:

Heavy, long-term use of cannabis appears to have a negligible impact on cognition and memory, according to clinical trial
data published in the current issue of the American Journal of Addictions.

Researchers at Harvard Medical School performed magnetic resonance imaging on the brains of 22 long-term cannabis users (reporting a mean of20,100 lifetime episodes of smoking) and 26 controls (subjects with no history of cannabis use). Imaging displayed "no significant differences" between heavy cannabis smokers compared to controls.

"These findings are consistent with recent literature suggesting that cannabis use is not associated with structural changes within the brain as a whole or the hippocampus in particular," authors concluded.

Full text of the study, "Lack of hippocampal volume change in long-term heavy cannabis users," appears in the January-February issue of the American Journal of Addictions.


I thought this was a pretty interesting article.

[flyin]

Thank you!!! thats what We like to hear!!

May 7 is International J-Day :niceone: over 200 cities wolrdwide are holding rallies

[Sniper]

Mint, sounds like fun

[SPORK]

That's coz... like... weed is... like, you know... the shit... yeah....

[Coyote]

So is this study promoting Canabis?

[pyrocam]

ACE!

good on yay for posting that.


rave on just made 2000 posts btw


who here is going to jay day like me. would I get shat on for putting it on the calendar

[flyin]

ACE!

who here is going to jay day like me. would I get shat on for putting it on the calendar

Although it is a great thing to stand up and say " I'm a responsible, functioning member of society and I smoke pot "

Alot of people are of the mind that resbonisble use involves 'not controling heavy machinery' althought there are tests, experiments and reports of the latter looking at the effects of cannabis on the motor-skills of the user... from what I've read the mildly stoned drivers (while concetrating i guess) were doing better than the straight (sober) counterparts. and both were hugely better than the drinker... mixed was just messy

I'll be at the Welly event!! :banana:

[onearmedbandit]

Oh dear, this will provoke some never-ending debate. I will keep quiet on this, those who know me know my education, roughly how much I earn and how much I do or don't smoke.

[pyrocam]

hmm. yeah I can see this getting into a huge debate quite easily. I hope it doesnt.

Look forward to seeing anyother KB'rs there. if your going to the auckland one feel free to post here.

for the record I will not be smoking. (I pretty much dont anymore but still support the cause) :doobey:

[Hitcher]

They'll probably be infertile and paranoid as well...

[onearmedbandit]

Sometimes Hitcher, I just don't know what to make of your comments. However I'll assume it was tongue-in-cheek.

[Timber020]

So why is it that I have almost been hit by the "legalize cannabis" van twice?

Same study would find E users having higher than average wages to in all probability.

Worked alot around stoners, you never get one saying "dude, man I just want to crack on with work now." "dude you operate that much better after a toke" or "Okay if I have to work this out and get it right, im going to need a hit."

:2thumbsup

[HDTboy]

hmm. yeah I can see this getting into a mass debate quite easily. I hope it doesnt.




:grouphug: :tugger: :doobey: :tugger: :grouphug:

[inlinefour]

Ottawa, Ontario:
Lifetime cannabis users are likely to be single, well educated, and earning an above average salary, according to a recent survey of 13,900 Canadians conducted by Health Canada and the Canadian Executive Council on Addictions.

Approximately 45 percent of the Canadian population over age 15 reported having used cannabis during their lifetime - up from 23 percent in 1989, the survey reported. Lifetime cannabis use increased with education and income. Among those with some post-secondary education, 52 percent reported having used cannabis. By comparison, among those without a high school degree, only 35 percent reported having tried cannabis. In
addition, 55 percent of those respondents with a "high income adequacy" said they had used cannabis, as opposed to only 43 percent of those with a "low income adequacy."

Among those who reported consuming cannabis, most said that they used it infrequently and did not "experience[e] serious harm due to their cannabis use."

Full text of the survey is available from the Canadian Executive Council on Addictions website at:
http://www.ccsa.ca/pdf/ccsa-004028-2005.pdf


AND

Heavy Cannabis Use Not Associated With Cognitive Deficits,
Study Says

Belmont, MA:

Heavy, long-term use of cannabis appears to have a negligible impact on cognition and memory, according to clinical trial
data published in the current issue of the American Journal of Addictions.

Researchers at Harvard Medical School performed magnetic resonance imaging on the brains of 22 long-term cannabis users (reporting a mean of20,100 lifetime episodes of smoking) and 26 controls (subjects with no history of cannabis use). Imaging displayed "no significant differences" between heavy cannabis smokers compared to controls.

"These findings are consistent with recent literature suggesting that cannabis use is not associated with structural changes within the brain as a whole or the hippocampus in particular," authors concluded.

Full text of the study, "Lack of hippocampal volume change in long-term heavy cannabis users," appears in the January-February issue of the American Journal of Addictions.


I thought this was a pretty interesting article.

The first interesting thing I learnt about research when doing my education was that research can be manipulated to reach a satisfactory outcome to help promote a particular way of thinking. Come and work with me people, if you really think that Cannabis (and even worse harder drugs) creates nil problems, then your pretty niaeve.

[Biff]

I've a BSC and an MBA, I earn a fortune and I never smoke - erm, what was it called again? And why are you all staring at me? :mellow:

[John]

I've a BSC and an MBA, I earn a fortune and I never smoke - erm, what was it called again? And why are you all staring at me? :mellow:
I wondered where that smell was comming from!

[flyin]

No-ones saying that there's no negative side affectes whatsoever but this is the start of un-compromised tests coming from a country that has abolished prohibition.

As apposed to many of the reports over the last 30 years that have been twisted to scare the people into thinking pot is a bad scary drug that is going to rot our brains or give us "reefer madness". there was several very influential companies (cotton growers, paper maufacturers, pharmecutical companies...) who decided that the public should believe whatever they (the "media") told us! and produdced false info to back up thier outrageous claims of shit like infertilily among users..... bah dudes doing those test could't get it up any way!...

I know plenty of 'stoners' who are much more active, have better work ethic and enjoy many more extramural activities than most drinkers......... in fact better than alot of "straight" people

I just dont think that choosing a joint over a drink makes a persona criminal!!

[MrMelon]

The first interesting thing I learnt about research when doing my education was that research can be manipulated to reach a satisfactory outcome to help promote a particular way of thinking. Come and work with me people, if you really think that Cannabis (and even worse harder drugs) creates nil problems, then your pretty niaeve.

I'm not trying to say that cannabis use is perfectly fine for 100% of the population without any ill effects. There will always be a small percentage with a genetic disposition to mental illness or serious addiction, but this proportion should probably stay away from any substance as the results are likely to be bad. This study is just providing balance to the "unmotivated, lazy useless stoner" stereotype that so many people seem to have.

I do agree that the conclusions of many studies are manipulated to support a particular outcome, but this study doesn't draw any wildly different conclusions to many of the other studies on cannabis use.

[inlinefour]

I'm not trying to say that cannabis use is perfectly fine for 100% of the population without any ill effects. There will always be a small percentage with a genetic disposition to mental illness or serious addiction, but this proportion should probably stay away from any substance as the results are likely to be bad. This study is just providing balance to the "unmotivated, lazy useless stoner" stereotype that so many people seem to have.

I do agree that the conclusions of many studies are manipulated to support a particular outcome, but this study doesn't draw any wildly different conclusions to many of the other studies on cannabis use.

You keep thinking that way is like having your head in the sand mate! It creates havoc for a larger proportion that you would allow yourself to admit, you like a toke or two?
I've done research papers on the same issue mate, and they outcome would obviously alien to you as its the direct opposite of what your trying to promote. But hey, you go on believing whatever you want. I guess some actually do teach our kids that santa is real...

[Hoon]

I do agree that the conclusions of many studies are manipulated to support a particular outcome, but this study doesn't draw any wildly different conclusions to many of the other studies on cannabis use.

Ehhh?? Every study I've seen concludes cannabis causes memory, motivation or psychosis problems? In fact, this is the first time I've heard of a study that says it doesn't?? A quick google search of "cannabis study memory" (http://www.google.com/search?q=cannabis+study+memory&hl=en&lr=&start=10&sa=N) shows a definate trend.

This one makes me laugh:

They bred two groups of mice. The first was engineered to produce more cannabinoids while the second was engineered to produce fewer of these chemicals.

They then subjected the mice to a series of tests. These involved a loud tone followed by a light electric shock to the foot.

They found that mice which produced fewer cannabinoids froze when they heard the tone, anticipating an electric shock.

The mice which produced more cannabinoids appeared to forget to associate the tone with the electric shock and didn't freeze.

Hehe...but seriously, even marijuana users would agree that their memory "aint what it use to be". Anyone that doesn't either hasn't been smoking it long enough or isn't smoking enough!! :)

[flyin]

Many of the earlier test results were warped to fit the anti-cannabis propaganda pushed by our government.... this one is from a country where it is legal to grow and smoke, and medi-weed can be purchased from phamacies (although its apparantly shitty buds..)

I like that Mice example, maybe they knew the shock was coming but were harder than the other mice and knew that they could not avoid the shock so they relaxed and let it happen ( has less negative affects on the mucsles)

Say your on a corner and you hear the familiar screech of ruber as you loose traction...... the non-cannabinoids mouse would freeze up because a crash is coming while the second would asses the situation and calmly take evasive action.........

[flyin]

It doesn't talk about the short term memory so much..... It's pointing out that we can retain our long term memory

I've heard we dont even store our long term memory in our brain anyways..... just use our brain to access it..........

[MrMelon]

It doesn't talk about the short term memory so much..... It's pointing out that we can retain our long term memory

I've heard we dont even store our long term memory in our brain anyways..... just use our brain to access it..........

Hahah, shit dude, where do we store long term memories if we don't store them in our brain? memory toenails? :P

[onearmedbandit]

Hmmm. [Makes notes not to clip toenails any longer.]

[Just discovered that having characters in [] doesn't count as 10 characters]

[idb]

I can't accept that long term heavy usage doesn't have an effect but I also can't accept that moderate or light usage will automatically fuck you up.
Anything taken excessively is bad for you - even water.
As for the argument that some people are pre-disposed to psychosis & other nasty reactions - some people are allergic to peanuts, or milk and we're all allergic to too much water.

[sedge]

I've found that people posting studies positively supporting things are usually feeling guilty about doing the things the studies say have no ill effects. If you feel guilty about doing something and keep doing it then you have a problem.

Heh heh...

Sedge.

[sedge]

Hahah, shit dude, where do we store long term memories if we don't store them in our brain? memory toenails? :P

New iPod photo plus, now with meat interface... Sigh, if only I could remember where I left it.

sedge.

[idb]

New iPod photo plus, now with meat interface...
Now...I'm not completely ignorant of technological advances but this raised a couple of questions (and images) in my mind....................

[mikey]

There will always be a small percentage with a genetic disposition to mental illness or serious addiction, but this proportion should probably stay away from any substance as the results are likely to be bad.


mental illnesssess ropck my boat. you get sickness benefits an fuck loads of ""Support"" from govt enterprises. pot saved me.

[badlieutenant]

simple question. In terms of costs to society (violence, accidents, health etc) which is more exspensive, pot or alchomohol ??

Moderation people :drinknsin

[MrMelon]

I've found that people posting studies positively supporting things are usually feeling guilty about doing the things the studies say have no ill effects. If you feel guilty about doing something and keep doing it then you have a problem.

Heh heh...

Sedge.

Hmm why haven't you posted any studies showing whale riding is beneficial yet?!

[StoneChucker]

A line from Family Guy comes to mind here...
"I'd be more lethargic, if I weren't so apathetic" :killingme

Personally, I don't smoke. But, I have no problem with those who do. One thing you cannot argue with, is that smoking (of anything) causes cancer...

[sedge]

Hmm why haven't you posted any studies showing whale riding is beneficial yet?!

Sigh... My lardy old touring whale may not be able to get away from your newer, lighter sports bike, but somehow it always manages to keep up in the twisties...

Sedge says "When you ride like a squid it is unwise to make fun of the hungry whale"

[savage rider]

Well, im single .over 40 well educated, and hve an excellent memory.
and have partaken in the habit for , well lets just say ,
several years now lol :wait: :whistle: