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zooty
23rd April 2005, 08:35
hey guyz

Im going to buy a 250 soon, and I would like to know how most people learn to ride. Carpark? just get a feel of the bike?

Oh, and how do ppl get to their learners if they cant ride there? Trailer?

thanks

FEINT
23rd April 2005, 08:59
Carpark is good to learn on. You will find the carpark will get too small for you. Once you get your learners you can start on the quieter 50km/hr streets. From there you can move along and start learning with traffic (that is a hard one). Ride safely.

Ms Piggy
23rd April 2005, 16:46
Great news zooty! Now I'd also like to remind you that part of owning a bike is owning good gear too, speaking as a very new rider myself, I cannot emphasise enough the importance of a decent jacket, pants, gloves & helmet. Don't skimp on these please. Here endeth the bossy lecture.

As far as learning to ride goes, ride around a car park for sure and if you still feel a little lacking, go to a learn to ride class. But get your Basic Handling skills test over ASAP. Then you'll be able to get your learners License and really ride :niceone:

dhunt
23rd April 2005, 16:57
hey guyz

Im going to buy a 250 soon, and I would like to know how most people learn to ride. Carpark? just get a feel of the bike?

Oh, and how do ppl get to their learners if they cant ride there? Trailer?

thanks
Yeah car parks are a good place to learn in, do you know anyone else that could ride the bike there for you and give you a few pointers to get going? That's normally the best thing to do.

Ixion
23rd April 2005, 16:58
hey guyz

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Oh, and how do ppl get to their learners if they cant ride there? Trailer?

thanks

Most of the Basic handling skills courses provide a bike for you to use for the course and test (pick one that does)

Gremlin
23rd April 2005, 19:50
Welcome to the site, don't feed the animals, they get excited

For tests:
Don't use Passrite (well, OK, so I had a bad experience). Depends where you are in Auckland. I'm sitting my BHS next Sunday with John Wright (He's in the Yellow Pages under Riding Schools). Gives a 3 hour lesson (20 odd min lecture, 2.5 hour practical tuition) then test. You can do short lessons, or test only, up to you.

Locations for learning
Once again, depending where you are, there maybe new housing developments near you. I think I'll look to trying to transport the bike out to the development (dad's people mover or trailer). All the roads are usually completed as well, so you have roundabouts, hills, and sometimes paving to practice on. Usually nice and quiet on the weekends.

Carparks are good to.

Oh, and how do ppl get to their learners if they cant ride there? Trailer?
You don't need to ride for the learners, it's a theory test (scratch and win)

GROOMER
23rd April 2005, 21:01
If you havent ridden at all...I'd suggest finding a mate etc with a dirt bike. Different riding styles obviously, but basic principles are still there. And chances are falling on grass etc is gonna hurt alot less than a sealed carpark :)

surfchick
23rd April 2005, 21:26
welcome!!
i agree w. previous post. go to john wright- in 2 hours you'll have passed the handling from zero. he's got a mix of bikes to choose from depending on what your preference for later purchase is... I'd never hardly riden before, did his intro on the honda- round a painted circuit in a car park at the back of the honda plant, cones and stopping routines. sounds compex, but is totally sweet. he sort of slips the test components through without you hardly knowing your performing them. everthting is explained, you go at your own slow pace and then it's over, and you can que up for the scratchie. It's actually really fun.

i did the handlers, then bought a bike, (rode it illegally round back streets for a week) then sat the learners. then had no gloves & stressed and finally sprung for them. GET GEAR.

Flyingpony
23rd April 2005, 22:26
hey guyz

Im going to buy a 250 soon, and I would like to know how most people learn to ride. Carpark? just get a feel of the bike?

Oh, and how do ppl get to their learners if they cant ride there? Trailer?

thanks
Welcome!

I rode around the house first, then onto farmers paddocks, then got a scooter and then got licenced and a new bike. Nearby I found a new housing development (as others have already pointed out) to ride around in during the weekend. There's hardly any traffic there and those who are there, move slowly.

From memory, you do a basic handling course (bikes are provided) and then sit the scratch test at the local AA. All done for stage 1. Oh, and don't forget your L-Plate and always buy a brand new helmet.

Lee Rusty
24th April 2005, 21:52
taken care of - he came out and saw me to day to learn to ride and get his
basic skills test. Will be off to get his learners when AA's open on Tuesday.

Gremlin
25th April 2005, 00:09
Are you John Wright then??

wari
25th April 2005, 01:03
DA best place to lurn is inda back pad-dock farr a-way from PA's vege guar-den ... :confused:

Ixion
25th April 2005, 01:10
Are you John Wright then??

No, "Lee Rusty" is Lee Hurley, not John Wright. The "Rusty" relates (I guess) to the Rusty Nuts bike club of which he was (I think) founder.

Mr Hurley, like Mr Wright, is a qualifed instructor, and provides riding tuition and can take learners for the Basic Handling Skills test.

FEINT
25th April 2005, 09:08
Mr. Lee Hurley did my basic handling course and I definitely recommend him :niceone. Congratulations Zooty on getting your Basic Handling Course.

Lee Rusty
25th April 2005, 09:35
No, "Lee Rusty" is Lee Hurley, not John Wright. The "Rusty" relates (I guess) to the Rusty Nuts bike club of which he was (I think) founder.

Mr Hurley, like Mr Wright, is a qualifed instructor, and provides riding tuition and can take learners for the Basic Handling Skills test.


Yep the above is all correct
I run the RideSafe Motorcycle Education Co. in Auckland - been going since
1983 firstly as Matchless Motorcycle School which changed names in late 84

THe Rusty is also correct Rusty Nuts M/c was also started by myself with a few friends - We all use Rusty as a surname when refering to each other in Newsletters etc.

I am an LTSA qualified instructor in M/Cs Class 6 also hold instructor licences in class 1, 2,4.

Can assist with P, V, F, D endorsements

I work for a driving school that specialises in commercial vehicles - Mon to Fri
and bikes under my own banner on SUndays.

Hows that for a self promoting plug. I can be contacted via private message here if anyone needs some help.

School phone is 021 New Rider 021639743

Sutage
25th April 2005, 14:22
I also reccomend Lee.

Got my basic handling two or maybe one weekend ago :Punk:

( I was the guy who was gonna get the Belladonna, but changed my mind now, gonna hopefully get a GN250) :ride:

Paid $100 for two hour lesson and certificate, much cheaper than passrite and even john wright !

surfchick
25th April 2005, 16:28
I also reccomend Lee.

Got my basic handling two or maybe one weekend ago :Punk:

( I was the guy who was gonna get the Belladonna, but changed my mind now, gonna hopefully get a GN250) :ride:

Paid $100 for two hour lesson and certificate, much cheaper than passrite and even john wright !

bro! my 2hr lesson & cert. was $70.00 w John Wright just over a month ago...

Gremlin
26th April 2005, 03:03
bro! my 2hr lesson & cert. was $70.00 w John Wright just over a month ago...
:eek5: :shit: :gob: :crybaby:

I'm sitting the BHS on Sunday with John Wright, 3 hours and $205... :thud:

How did you have a price that low? :msn-wink:

justsomeguy
26th April 2005, 07:34
:eek5: :shit: :gob: :crybaby:

I'm sitting the BHS on Sunday with John Wright, 3 hours and $205... :thud:

How did you have a price that low? :msn-wink:

I paid about $120 for the couple of hours and cert at Mr Wrights.......... WTF??

Have you shopped around?? PM Lee Rusty

zooty
26th April 2005, 08:45
thanks guys

as u heard i went to lee rusty, he was great. I got my skills up to scratch in an hour or so. He provided bikes so it made my first riding experience a great one!!

ended up with my basic skills test on the same day, so jst gotta book the theory at AA!!

Cheers

FROSTY
26th April 2005, 09:15
Dont stop practicing. talk again to lee rusty.I'm sure he does a more advanced course for once ya have your basic skills and handling .
I'd also suggest tagging along on a newbees ride (slow ride)
not quite yet -perhaps give it a month till you have worked out the basics.
If ya want a quiet escorted ride ill be more than happy to help

Lee Rusty
26th April 2005, 17:46
some variations on prices out there

Here are mine Basic skills test $50 includes use of bikes and helmet if needed.
There is time to get used to the bike, brakes, etc.
Test usually takes about 1 hour all up - if you have some knowledge of riding,
Ie can operate a clutch - trail bike/ farm bike/ scooter experiance.

If you need training it is done at $25 per hour with a max of 3 people for training lessons. THis includes hire of bike, and helmet if needed.

Average person take 3 to 4 hours to get good enough to pass test, but it really is dependant on the person.

The test fee is on top of any training if it is needed

surfchick
26th April 2005, 22:50
:eek5: :shit: :gob: :crybaby:

I'm sitting the BHS on Sunday with John Wright, 3 hours and $205... :thud:

How did you have a price that low? :msn-wink:

arrgh- memory might be bung- could have been 70 p/h and it took an hour and a half...? (i just gave him some cash i took in coaching surfing...) that seems the same rate as your 205- bout 70 bucks an hour. anything round that is pretty sound- you do get someone to trust you with their motorcycle and helmet even if you're unco... ;)

Gremlin
27th April 2005, 02:07
jeez woman... :D you almost gave me a heart attack... :no:

here I am thinking that first passrite gives me the runaround, then John Wright seems like a great guy, and with no experience of motorbike riding I think its the best... Then you drop that bombshell...

I need clutch/accelerator experience. Balance shouldn't be an issue (well if it is, I'll be very embarrassed and none of you will ever know :whistle: ). I've been on non-motorised versions for years and years.

tuscan
27th April 2005, 16:38
Lee Rusty sorted me out from no experience to easily passing the Basic Handling Course in bout an hour and it was cheap as...

Also he has these sweet little 125 2 strokes which are a crack up to ride :D

John
27th April 2005, 16:45
I got set back 40$ for my test and it took about 20mins MAX.

But thats different, auckland is alot different/Plus our bikes were fucked (like died for no reason, and mine had shit compression, kick,kick,kickkickkic,kkickkickkickkick,kick PUTTTTUTTUTTTPTTITTTUTTT, then it would die, so repeat the process :lol:, and we didnt have helments, but the dude was mint :D

Lee Rusty
27th April 2005, 17:20
doing stuff for LTSA approved tests with NO HELMENT would lose the guy his licence to do them.

Lee Rusty
27th April 2005, 17:23
jeez woman... :D you almost gave me a heart attack... :no:

here I am thinking that first passrite gives me the runaround, then John Wright seems like a great guy, and with no experience of motorbike riding I think its the best... Then you drop that bombshell...

I need clutch/accelerator experience. Balance shouldn't be an issue (well if it is, I'll be very embarrassed and none of you will ever know :whistle: ). I've been on non-motorised versions for years and years.

if dont get sorted or are still having probs drop me a PM
Lee

Gremlin
28th April 2005, 01:22
if dont get sorted or are still having probs drop me a PM
Lee
out of interest, where do you do your testing. I certainly intend to do future courses to increase skill (don't care if no impact on license time) and if I find I don't like John, I'll give you a pm...

Lee Rusty
28th April 2005, 20:51
my Testing at Otahuhu - but I do road rides when you have your licence and own bike, I used to have road bikes but the insurance etc was too high for the amount of time they were used.