The Bastards

[dpex]

Who saw TV3's 6pm news? The bastards. They managed to get a camera crew to film one of ours who got trashed by a cager as he was leaving the meeting. Did they show anything of the meeting? No. The bastards.

But it was okay to show yet another biker down......Damn bikers, costing ACC all that money. Oh yeah. They clearly being paid to push the National Party line.

Protest TV3. Write to the news editor. Tell him what a twit he is. Get your boss to pull TV3 advertising. Refuse to watch TV3. Tell them why.

[Ms Piggy]

I know!! I saw it too! TV 1 gave an awesome report of the protests in Dunedin, Christchurch and Auckland and all TV 3 came up with was a whole lot of footage of a rider who had been injured! :bash:

[Elysium]

Nice to see ACCSUX adding his comments to the story. Anyway the article seems to make it seem the biker was at fault by saying "...biker hit car..." but since I wasn't there I wouldn't know who was at fault there.

[Coldrider]

That is ironic what both channels screened.
Have to say though that Phil Goff is developing a personality.

[nothingflash]

Here it is if you missed it... skip to 8m 46s

http://www.3news.co.nz/3-News-Full-Bulletin---November-14-2009-Part-One/tabid/921/articleID/99614/cat/705/Default.aspx

Bastards alright.

[steve_t]

Fark! When you have some info, you certainly get to appreciate how one-sided news reporting can be! :angry:

The shirts look bloody good though!!

[Cloggy]

Protest TV3. Write to the news editor. Tell him what a twit he is.

Done, didn't mince any words either.
Now another couple of hundred of you need to do the same.

[MadDuck]

Fancy them getting the Harley rider. My 2 seconds of fame

[Hopeful Bastard]

Fancy them getting the Harley rider. My 2 seconds of fame

There their problem was :lol:


Too busy focusing on the "Harley" riders :P

Should be more focused on the meeting itself

[humvee]

Does any one know what actually happened in this accident? or what car was invloved? was it the white one in the foreground? There does appear to be wet patches infront of it

[quickbuck]

Do a bit of a search on here......
Anyhow:
45 year old Asian guy named Jock apparently lost the front on a tightening radius bend. Hit the car....
Bloody poor timing..... Oh and incident didn't really have much to do with the protest either!

[Ixion]

You can't blame the TV people.

It's news. That's what they do

Guy went to a meeting bitching that ACC claim bikers crash too much. And crashed. TV says "that's news". And so it is. I'd have played it if I'd been them.

Let's just thank our lucky stars they didn't follow it up with an ACC spokesperson telling the world just how much that crash would cost ACC , and comparing it to the levy paid by the rider. That would *really* have looked bad. And that's just what I'd have done if I'd been the producer. Not cos I hated bikes, but cos that's news.

Best way to deal with this sort of thing?

DON'T FUCKIN' CRASH!

Slow the fuck down and don't try to be Rossi. He doesn't have to apy ACC. We do.

[Hopeful Bastard]

Just sent this to 3 News

"Just caught up with the 6pm news. There was a whole lot of stuff you guys could have shown. But instead, You chose to show the 10 seconds about ONE rider getting collected by a car. All i can say is well fu***ng done.. I will be watching ONE NEWS from now on seeing as they actually showed INFORMATION about the protests.

Tell the Editors/Big boss man/Whoever that not only have they angered some bikers, But some are now going to watch ONE NEWS.

From Pissed Off Biker"

[riffer]

Whilst Ixion of course is absolutely right, it just confirms to me the reasons I switched in the last election campaign from being a long-time 3 viewer to 1 viewer as news goes.

TV3 just aren't really interested in telling about what happened; it's all about their "angle" on the story. To be expected from a tv company which relies on ratings for their survival.

Face it, people like this kind of stuff.

OTOH, I loved the "Who's next" patches on the back of the jackets. Works brilliantly.

[riffer]

As an aside, be careful what you say on KB.

DomPost was running in "Last Word" yesterday a story about how kiwibiker is advocating motorcyclists should report all accidents as "mountainbike accidents" in emergency rooms nationwide.

We are being watched, a lot.

[StoneY]

While unhappy with the TV3 news last night I am stoked One news have dropped the often righthand 'pro governments side' reporting style I am used to

The media right has come out totally open minded in our cause
TVNZ are placing a shitload of money down on Tuesday

Chopper cams, 6 or more roaming news teams, 2 stage camera's, their no 1 news squads at parliament.....

Newstalk have gotten both Les and myself in interviews, and our Hamilton organizer got good airtime with them too

The perception I used to have of TVNZ and Newstalk has really changed....used to think of news in a 'right n left' manner and had always tended toward TV3...until last night

TV3 have not even replied to my requests for Tuesdays coverage support....

TVNZ hired a chopper

Says a lot....

[Eddieb]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10609369

One of the 300 motorcyclists protesting against ACC changes, at the Auckland Domain yesterday, had need for the service after coming off his bike and breaking his leg.

The biker hit a car after leaving the domain, where Labour leader Phil Goff spoke against a levy increase from $252 to $735 for riders of machines over 600cc.

[StoneY]

Was bound to happen

Rugby player, breaks leg, no one gives a fuck it my ACC levy paying to fix it....

All good man

[nothingflash]

Hey mate,

Check it out here http://www.3news.co.nz/3-News-Full-B...5/Default.aspx it was covered on the news on 3 last night. Skip to 8m 45s

[Big Dave]

Probably a 'typical' (as in common) serious injury.

What would now be good is to track his injury costs to see how much it really does cost ACC.

[Jizah]

Hey mate,

Check it out here http://www.3news.co.nz/3-News-Full-B...5/Default.aspx it was covered on the news on 3 last night. Skip to 8m 45s

Link is incomplete.

[tri boy]

Ya gotta see the funny side of that little piece of irony:laugh:
That bloke will become world famous in Akld biker groups.:stupid:

[nothingflash]

Link is incomplete.

Odd... anyway - see post #5. Only ended up as a repost as two threads have been merged here.

[fliplid]

One of the 300 motorcyclists protesting against ACC changes, at the Auckland Domain yesterday, had need for the service after coming off his bike and breaking his leg.

While this was mentioned, just north of Papakura some dumb fek car drivers smashed into each on on the south bound carriageway as you guys were going north! (Er, I was idiot in the truck waving :niceone:) On way back northwards after loading up, there were a couple more "incidents" of "paired" cars on the carriageway in the tail back :doh: Hopefully these incidents will not be reported as bike related accidents!!! The police were well busy dealing with all the car carnage!

[smoky]

It's funny, I mean going to protest about increase in ACC becuase we're being unfairly picked on based on our risk - and some clown hits a car and brakes his leg - that's bloody funny
two guys who were riding back from the Auckland protest got tickets for speeding - thats funny

One of the organisers in the Hamilton area for the protest is waiting to face charges of dangerous driving - thats funny too

On the way home from the Dunedin protest one rider fell off in his driveway - thats funny too

can't wait to see how many tickets get issued and how many fall off on their way to the Wellington protest over the next few days - bet the police will be looking give any feedback to the media

maybe the fees should go up = we're a pack of dangerous bastards really

[Nasty]

...
can't wait to see how many tickets get issued and how many fall off on their way to the Wellington protest over the next few days - bet the police will be looking give any feedback to the media...

Oh you can bet the police will have ticket books out ... things to make sure we don't do include:

Not being on a registered/warrented bike
Not have a valid license
Speeding - would be hard in this group - but still
Riding stupidly - this would go down as dangerous riding

[Mully]

Oh you can bet the police will have ticket books out ... things to make sure we don't do include:

Not being on a registered/warrented bike
Not have a valid license
Speeding - would be hard in this group - but still
Riding stupidly - this would go down as dangerous riding

Not leaving the protest and riding into a fucking car could be added to your list too.

[chasio]

That video won't play when I try it (black box where it should be) but other video on their site does. Do they usually pull the new bulletin after less than a day? Or have they pulled it to stop us seeing it??

Anyone get a version offline e.g. using Orbit Downloader?

[allycatz]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10609369

One of the 300 motorcyclists protesting against ACC changes, at the Auckland Domain yesterday, had need for the service after coming off his bike and breaking his leg.

The biker hit a car after leaving the domain, where Labour leader Phil Goff spoke against a levy increase from $252 to $735 for riders of machines over 600cc.

And the media assumes ACC is going to be claimed? The guy might have have private income insurance and no need of ACC...media making big assumptions

[What?]

It would not surprise me in the slightest to learn that TV3 had been paid to play that bit of "news". They have a long history of reporting distorted bullshit fed to them by the Nat's and the Business Round Table, and totally refusing to acknowledge that another side to the story even exists. I have not bothered with them for over 20 years now.
TV3 are the scum that floats on top of the cess pit that is the news media in this country.

[AD345]

And the media assumes ACC is going to be claimed? The guy might have have private income insurance and no need of ACC...media making big assumptions

Tsk

ACC has already paid for the ambo and on scene treatments as well as hospital treatment (if any has been done)

Ya can't opt out - that's kinda the whole point.

He fucked up, made an excellent point of irony and incurred ACC costs.

That's it - full stop. The news report was 100% accurate and very newsworthy.

We really need to stop bleating.

[Mully]

And the media assumes ACC is going to be claimed? The guy might have have private income insurance and no need of ACC...media making big assumptions

My private insurance wont pay out if I am able to claim ACC - that's pretty standard. They will make up the difference in salary though.



That's it - full stop. The news report was 100% accurate and very newsworthy.

We really need to stop bleating.

Yep. Correct.

We need to stop bleating about the media reporting the crash. We should continue to berate the second-class Wannabe Rossi for having the crash in the first place. It was a stupid fucking mistake that might have severly damaged the good work the other 349-ish riders did all morning, and played straight into the hands of Nick Smith and ACC.

[scissorhands]

If we write hostile letters unfairly, we may get offside with people in power like those working in news rooms.

Their will be a whole lot of people in 2 minds about bikers. Those people in powerful positions should get a real good brown nosing. Hostility has its place in the future re ACC levies but not now

I know that bend and have caught my center stand leaning over, twice I think, last time a month ago. But I had forgotten from the first time.

In reality it is an unsafe corner for motorcyclists due to the sideways gradient. Whoever is responsible for that road like Transit NZ or Auckland City Council, are to blame.

I went all out complaining to Waitakere City Council and the police over a bend on the Piha Rd near Darkies Hill....Every month or more someone bins a car on that bend....been happening for years.....and years......and years.....my mates and I crashed in 1979 on that bend when we were 15 years old noobs......the roading engineer Duncan Cambell joked about how the bush softens their leaving the road......my buddy was nearly in a coma......

Now, ACC is not admitting it has screwed up over prevention of bike accidents.

How many other accidents have occurred on that lovers lane bend????? I wonder if we can turn this around to our advantage?

[duckonin]

Probably a 'typical' (as in common) serious injury.

What would now be good is to track his injury costs to see how much it really does cost ACC.

Dave if it was only a broken leg the cost would be the same for anyone that broke their leg, but as you say to track it, ACC would more than inflate the cost to their advantage....

I wonder what the cost is to fix all those in car and van accidents in the last month, there has been plenty of activity in that area..:doh:

[tri boy]

Skin grafts are what escalate m/cycle riders bone break ops.
Bones heal quick, many skin grafts due to shaved off skin is the real cost. Plastic surgeons don't come cheap. Just saying:mellow:

[Nibblet]

Dave if it was only a broken leg the cost would be the same for anyone that broke their leg, but as you say to track it, ACC would more than inflate the cost to their advantage....

I wonder what the cost is to fix all those in car and van accidents in the last month, there has been plenty of activity in that area..:doh:

The cost is NOT the same for all people who break their legs.

Depends what he does for a job, if he's a desk jockey then he may be able to continue working with no other compensation from ACC. If however he is a builder for example and is no longer able to work then ACC will be compensating him 80% of his wage while he is unable to work. Thats when the cost begins to sky rocket.

From what I have read elsewhere he broke his femur (poor sod, would have been excruciating) so may be off work for quite a while.