Just lost my virginity!!!

[justsomeguy]

:msn-wink: I'm not a virgin anymore, yipeeee!!!!!!!!:banana:

Just did SH22 in the morning with the rest of the crew who did Death's ride down 22. Was riding back home in the pouring rain, just before the Tuakau bridge. Slowing down to take the turn and lost the front. On reflection I feel it must have been a spot of diesel on the road. Cos one moment I was fine the next I just lost it. And all the time I was in full control, never even expected it to happen. My mistake I know better than to approach intersections in the middle of the lane where the bl00dy trucks drop off their deposits, anyway now I'll remember:whistle:

The front slid out under me and I just went into a fast roll lying straight on the ground, got my hands in front of me like in a boxers stance guarding against a straight punch to the face and kept rolling till I stopped. Bit surprised seeing how far I rolled probably atleast a good 10 meters. Now that I was rolling and in sort of a stable (versus an uncontrolled) roll, I was just anxious to come to a stop so I could get off the middle of the road........ as I really didn't want to get run over.

Luckily it was at a slow speed only around 50-60. I slid straight down the road and the bike to the left gutter. Luckily there was heaps (big mounds) of gravel and that sort of slowed the bike as it went into the gutter.

Helmet is all scratched really badly and the front chin piece broke off. The right hand side fairings are all cracked and the foot-brake lever and foot rest assembly broke off...... all easily repairable and everything should be fixable for under $500 so no point even bothering with insurance......

Since this is new zealand the first passing car stopped and the blokes there gave me a hand and did what New Zealanders do - sorted me out and assisted in every way they could.

Then Death showed up followed by Draco...... as they had stopped to swap bikes. A few mins later and Zed, 6Chris6 and Wonko showed up, thanks for turning back to check up on me guys!!! You KB'ers are AWWWWWWWESOME!!!!

Went over to Deaths to look at the beasts in his garage and for a very tasty cuppa (thanks Draco) and ended up watching some nice stunt clips.

The bikes fine and I'm sort of fine starting to get a headache and neck ache in the right hand side... rode it back home and now have another adventure to add to my life.

Not bad for my first bin aye??!!

Hehehehe :2thumbsup

[k14]

Ohh guttered to hear. I joined the same club today (twice) :whistle: . Don't think about it too much, you seem in fairly good spirits.

Hope you get your bike fixed up sweet. You'll be back on the road in no time.

[justsomeguy]

Ohh guttered to hear. Atleast you had the company of me today doing the same thing (twice).

Hope you get your bike fixed up sweet.

Oh NO!!!!........ out at guyfield??? what happened matey?? You ok?? And the little wee fella?? Shit!!!! That beeeeeeeaauuuuuutiful paint job......

So wha appund??

[k14]

Yeah will tell my story when I can be bothered. I'm sweet though, bike is a little scratched (on both sides) but nothing too bad.

[Gazzar]

Hi JSG, Glad to hear you are ok after the spill, I am suprised you were in front of Death given usually he is always ahead on most of the rides I have done with him.
Will you be on the ride on Monday now as if you need a helmet to borrow I have a spare dependant on the size you need.

[justsomeguy]

No I'm working...... need the cash..... and the time and a half pay......

Thanks for the offer though. I'll need to get a new helmet.

Shiny black this time:2thumbsup .

[ricksta]

oh man.... thats quite scary to hear.... i'm not lookin forward to the day i crash my bike.. i'll be very very sad :confused: , and mad :angry2:

[justsomeguy]

oh man.... thats quite scary to hear.... i'm not lookin forward to the day i crash my bike.. i'll be very very sad :confused: , and mad :angry2:

I was getting worried, 3 months of riding and no crash........ naah joking. There's a reason they are called "accidents".:msn-wink: Don't sweat it.

JUST MAKE SURE YOU HAVE FULL INSURANCE!!!!!!!

[Teflon]

Bad luck dude.

I would try and avoid rolling, tumbling etc, thats how you break bones.

[SPORK]

Crap... Just wait for Alarumba's story of his day at manfield....

It's far worse...

[Madguitarist!]

Good to hear you're ok dude, if you need a hand if the bike fixing give me a yell... I'm kinda more free than I was the last time you needed a hand.... :whistle:

Man, you got a really cool attitude bro! :cool:

[Sensei]

Bad luck dude .Will only make you a beter rider for it tho
SENSEI

[justsomeguy]

Bad luck dude.

I would try and avoid rolling, tumbling etc, thats how you break bones.

I was rolling like in the pic - but with my elbows together.

http://www.shouyuliang.com/images/newsletter/v2n6/a5p1.jpg

and I wasn't exactly doing it by choice :msn-wink: .... just ended up like that

[justsomeguy]

Good to hear you're ok dude, if you need a hand if the bike fixing give me a yell... I'm kinda more free than I was the last time you needed a hand.... :whistle:



Thanks MG....... I need a good plastic welder and a new foot backet bit and a new indicator. Will have a look at the full extent tomorrow when the sun comes out.




Man, you got a really cool attitude bro! :cool:

........... you have to take such things as life dishes them out to you, I'm just happy nothing happened and I'm here happily talking to my friends at home on a comfy chair...

[HDTboy]

See what you get for asking me about binning at 60Kph, then sliding along the road!

glad to hear you're ok

[justsomeguy]

I'm ok..... just been examining my helmet. Looks like I went face first into the road......:confused: hence the sort of damage....... which brings me to an important question.

In a crash (since they have to pass the same tests) is a 100 dollar helmet just as strong as a 1000 dollar helmet??

What are the major differences between them apart from comfort???

And do you'll know of any good deals on at the moment?? I'm a size M I think....

[SPORK]

I'm ok..... just been examining my helmet. Looks like I went face first into the road......:confused: hence the sort of damage....... which brings me to an important question.

In a crash (since they have to pass the same tests) is a 100 dollar helmet just as strong as a 1000 dollar helmet??

What are the major differences between them apart from comfort???

And do you'll know of any good deals on at the moment?? I'm a size M I think....
Well, you wouldn't think so. Just because they pass the same tests doesn't mean that they're equal.

It's like comparing an RS250 with a GN250, they both meet the 250 criteria...

Expensive lid = safer

...probably

[justsomeguy]

Expensive lid = safer

...probably

Oh ok....... I was told they all do the same job.... what else???

[Zed]

Yeah that was a real bummer JSG, you were doing so well too! After you told me earlier on that you had only been riding for THREE MONTHS I watched you and was impressed with your performance, especially in those conditions...not only was the road damp at times but remember those wild winds!! :cold:

Anyway, you walked away from your first ever bin with a commendable attitude and even managed to ride the :sleep:R home without a RH rearset to rest your foot on - those pillion pegs are good for something after all! Hope you get all the broken bits repaired/replaced without too much hassle. Oh, and you look like you need a new jacket as well as helmet, or will you patch up the holes?

[justsomeguy]

YeahAfter you told me earlier on that you had only been riding for THREE MONTHS I

I bought the bike late last year and probably only rode the bike about 5 times until I got my license on the 20th of Jan after which I've ridden most weekends and some evenings.....I've learnt heaps from people like Aff-man and Zapf and Frosty and Erik and a few others.

I would be useless if not for KB........

[Mr Skid]

I'm ok..... just been examining my helmet. Looks like I went face first into the road......:confused: hence the sort of damage....... which brings me to an important question.

In a crash (since they have to pass the same tests) is a 100 dollar helmet just as strong as a 1000 dollar helmet??

What are the major differences between them apart from comfort???
To be legal on the road, helmets have to pass a minimum standard. The snell foundation have set an voluntary independent standard, which is higher than the DOT standards for helmets.

So yes, a more expensive helmet will be of higher quality than a cheaper helmet, in respect it's crash protection.

However, from a crash protection perspective I think most people would agree that as you spend more on a helmet, the returns do diminish. More of the $ goes towards fancy graphics, ventilation, and sound reduction.

If you don't wear earplugs, or even if you do, a quiet helmet can be a good long term investment for your hearing.

I think the HJC CL-14 is probably one of the cheaper/cheapest helmets that have Snell2000 certification.

Seeing as you've taken a knock on the head, it might pay to visit a doctor to get checked out and/or familiarise yourself with the symptoms of concussion - it's always reasuring to know why you can't string a sentence together after a crash.. :whistle:

[justsomeguy]

Thanks for the info and your concern Rhys yes my helmet is/was a HJC.......

No I don't think I have a concussion. Did some research on the symptoms....lots of sleep planned for the long weekend in any case, and lots of quality eating too.

I feel my chin hit the ground the hardest. I will be shopping around and will get a quality lid, don't you worry. Am expecting a set of leathers from wildcat_lgf soon anyways...... I'm only going to patch up the current set of cordura I have.

Can anyone here(who knows what to look for) have a look at them and tell me how badly affected they are??

[Mr Skid]

Thanks for the info and your concern Rhys yes my helmet is/was a CL-14.......

No I don't think I have a concussion. Did some research on the symptoms....lots of sleep planned for the long weekend in any case, and lots of quality eating too.

I feel my chin hit the ground the hardest. I will be shopping around and will get a quality lid, don't you worry. Am expecting a set of leathers from wildcat_lgf soon anyways...... I'm only going to patch up the current set of cordura I have.

Can anyone here(who knows what to look for) have a look at them and tell me how badly affected they are??
Just a thought: Shouldn't you change your signature from "mustgofaster" to "wenttoofast"? :moon:

Have you heard of Motorcycle Safety Wear (MSW)? They're in St Kevin's Arcade, on K Rd. Take your gear into there and see what they have to say. If you've torn the cordura, or abraded the seams, I expect they'd be able to patch it.

Bear in mind that if you've worn through the cordura, you've probably shagged the waterproof liner, as it's pretty delicate in comparison to the cordura.

[Gremlin]

well, s'pose everyone hijacks a thread, but on the subject of helmets:

Mt Eden had a KBC for $249. Full face, vents etc. Good enough for a beginner??

OK, sorry, let you get back to telling how you smashed your chin...

[justsomeguy]

Just a thought: Shouldn't you change your signature from "mustgofaster" to "wenttoofast"? :moon:

Have you heard of Motorcycle Safety Wear (MSW)? They're in St Kevin's Arcade, on K Rd. Take your gear into there and see what they have to say. If you've torn the cordura, or abraded the seams, I expect they'd be able to patch it.

Bear in mind that if you've worn through the cordura, you've probably shagged the waterproof liner, as it's pretty delicate in comparison to the cordura.

Nope I wasn't too fast, I was in full control until the front slipped, not my usual oh shit too fast slow down, eeeek the bike stood up, now I'm running wide, ahhhhhhh...... oh thank god no one was coming on the other side....moments...

Right, thanks for the info I'll go find the people. By the way where is St Kevins Arcade?? I know the Leo O'Malley menswear shop as thats where the North Shore turn off is, with relation to that can you give me a bit more directions?? Ta

[justsomeguy]

well, s'pose everyone hijacks a thread, but on the subject of helmets:

Mt Eden had a KBC for $249. Full face, vents etc. Good enough for a beginner??

OK, sorry, let you get back to telling how you smashed your chin...

Whats a KBC??? I've done the sympathy seeking, I'm now interested in getting back on the road.... oh,,, it better not be a white one. Cos they had that in Christmas time......

[Mr Skid]

Nope I wasn't too fast, I was in full control until the front slipped, not my usual oh shit too fast slow down, eeeek the bike stood up, now I'm running wide, ahhhhhhh...... oh thank god no one was coming on the other side....moments...

Right, thanks for the info I'll go find the people. By the way where is St Kevins Arcade?? I know the Leo O'Malley menswear shop as thats where the North Shore turn off is, with relation to that can you give me a bit more directions?? Ta

St Kevlin's arcade is 183 K Rd - have a look here http://www.kroad.co.nz/kroad/streetscroll/default.asp
They're down the stairs on the right.

edit: Verona are a hop, skip and a jump away, and do good coffee imho, as well as having outside seating for the purposes of conspicuous consumption.

[Zapf]

well, s'pose everyone hijacks a thread, but on the subject of helmets:

Mt Eden had a KBC for $249. Full face, vents etc. Good enough for a beginner??

OK, sorry, let you get back to telling how you smashed your chin...

Make sure its SNELL M2000 Certified mate... if its not look for another brand.

As the DOT standard is just a standard based on the design, no batch testing involved.... But I believe that Batch testing is involved with Snell... correct me if I am wrong.

Another reason to trust the SNELL standard is that all motorsports helmets use the SNELL standard, not DOT .... SNELL.

[Zapf]

I bought the bike late last year and probably only rode the bike about 5 times until I got my license on the 20th of Jan after which I've ridden most weekends and some evenings.....I've learnt heaps from people like Aff-man and Zapf and Frosty, Erik and a few others.

I would be useless if not for KB........

Thanks JSG.... but ! its sad to hear you have binned!

were you on a lean when the front slid? if so you may have avoided it by hanging off the bike more, as you'll have to lean the bike less. Its a whole different style of riding when its really wet like that....

So when are you up for a wet ride? I need to pratice wet weather riding on my 750.... :niceone:

oh and if its my personal choice I would get a silver lid.... its the next most visible colour from white. from a safety prespective...

[FzerozeroT]

.... its the next most visible colour from white. from a safety prespective...

I'd heard it was orange, but since the days of me dad I think the only way to get an orange helmet is to buy a 1200 dollar trick paintjob helmet (or a $5.99 can of dazzle)

[DEATH_INC.]

Whats a KBC??? I've done the sympathy seeking, I'm now interested in getting back on the road.... oh,,, it better not be a white one. Cos they had that in Christmas time......
Draco's helmet is a kbc.
Glad yer ok,you'll be feeling it by now though.....
Post some piccys of that helmet,the guys(and gurls) will be impressed :msn-wink:

[justsomeguy]

Thanks JSG.... but ! its sad to hear you have binned!

were you on a lean when the front slid? if so you may have avoided it by hanging off the bike more, as you'll have to lean the bike less. Its a whole different style of riding when its really wet like that....

So when are you up for a wet ride? I need to pratice wet weather riding on my 750.... :niceone:

oh and if its my personal choice I would get a silver lid.... its the next most visible colour from white. from a safety prespective...

I thought you'd be off to the rally. Wanna go helmet shopping now and find one and go for a ride after??

No I was not on a lean nothing. Just slowing down in a straight line in full control to take the turn. I first slipped about 15 meters before the turn.

[justsomeguy]

oh and if its my personal choice I would get a silver lid.... its the next most
visible colour from white. from a safety prespective...

Who told you that???? It is one of the most difficult colours to notice. Orange is the easiest colour followed by yellow and flourescent green, etc.

Silver is one of the harder colours to see, was watching a program on crashes, they reckon that's why James Dean was killed cos the truck driver didn't see his car.......

[Ixion]

Who told you that???? It is one of the most difficult colours to notice. Orange is the easiest colour followed by yellow and flourescent green, etc.

Silver is one of the harder colours to see, was watching a program on crashes, they reckon that's why James Dean was killed cos the truck driver didn't see his car.......

Th easiest colour lid for Percy Plonker to see, is whatever colour lid the bikie cops wear. He always see that !

[justsomeguy]

Th easiest colour lid for Percy Plonker to see, is whatever colour lid the bikie cops wear. He always see that !

hehehee thats being cynical.....:niceone:

But seriously orange is da cala, that's why all road works, warning signs, etc are coloured 'range

OK I'm off to look at new lids.....

[John]

Good on you JSG taking it in good spirits!

If you need help with your bike I'll lend a hand, glad to hear you got of well enough!

Good on ya, and get a nice shiny black lid to go with your bike! :D

[justsomeguy]

Good on you JSG taking it in good spirits!

If you need help with your bike I'll lend a hand, glad to hear you got of well enough!

Good on ya, and get a nice shiny black lid to go with your bike! :D

Went shopping today. Yes John I'm gonna need your hand with a bit of plastic welding sometime. :niceone:

And yes I'm gonna get a shiny black lid. Always wanted one so I'm gonna get one. Saw a nice HJC CL-14 on special at Motomail for $199.

Will shop around to see if I can get a better deal/helmet someplace else otherwise I'll buy it.

I also need the foot brake assembly thingy. That's all.

Went for a ride down towards Piha today in the rain again to see how things are. Bike seems OK. But front end seems a bit weird - unstable.

Will have a leisurely look over it. Doesn't look too bad.

Zapf took some pics of it. Will get them off him and see how it goes.

[John]

Went shopping today. Yes John I'm gonna need your hand with a bit of plastic welding sometime. :niceone:

And yes I'm gonna get a shiny black lid. Always wanted one so I'm gonna get one. Saw a nice HJC CL-14 on special at Motomail for $199.

Will shop around to see if I can get a better deal/helmet someplace else otherwise I'll buy it.

I also need the foot brake assembly thingy. That's all.

Went for a ride down towards Piha today in the rain again to see how things are. Bike seems OK. But front end seems a bit weird - unstable.

Will have a leisurely look over it. Doesn't look too bad.

Zapf took some pics of it. Will get them off him and see how it goes.
Better check your clamps and head bearing, and forks - crappy front ends arent a good thing, its probably just twisted forks, so if you loosen the clamps and do them up again then it should be ok.

Also check your brake disk.. make sure it isnt warped to bad or at all..

Good luck :)

[justsomeguy]

Better check your clamps and head bearing, and forks - crappy front ends arent a good thing, its probably just twisted forks, so if you loosen the clamps and do them up again then it should be ok.

Also check your brake disk.. make sure it isnt warped to bad or at all..

Good luck :)

I'm super broke at the moment. So I'm just gonna let the bike sit for a few weeks until I sort something out.

[John]

I'm super broke at the moment. So I'm just gonna let the bike sit for a few weeks until I sort something out.
You should be able to check it yourself, just undo the clamp bolts etc.

I would come and do it for you but my bike still needs it brake disks - I'm sure someone else will lend their knowledge and skills.

Goodluck and once again good on you! - The first time is always the best one :D I can still remeber the big chunky rodeo that hit me :lol: I was so hot right then..

[Ghost Lemur]

...Went for a ride down towards Piha today in the rain again to see how things are. Bike seems OK. But front end seems a bit weird - unstable.

Will have a leisurely look over it. Doesn't look too bad.

Zapf took some pics of it. Will get them off him and see how it goes.

You'll find that the weird feeling is more a rider/psychological effect after a crash, rather than a specific fault with the bike.

Worth making sure that everything is still straight though.

Better safe than sorry.

[justsomeguy]

You'll find that the weird feeling is more a rider/psychological effect after a crash, rather than a specific fault with the bike.

Worth making sure that everything is still straight though.

Better safe than sorry.

Yup also since I have no back brakes or foot rest, I'm using the right pillion peg to rest my foot.

Heheheh makes things seem a bit wonky.......:whistle:

[John]

You'll find that the weird feeling is more a rider/psychological effect after a crash, rather than a specific fault with the bike.

Worth making sure that everything is still straight though.

Better safe than sorry.
I wish I suffered such things - maybe then I would still have the ZZR.

Although I just ride the ZXR like a NANA.. I'd hate it to suffer the effects of a crash.

But resting your foot on the Pillion rest might explain alot, but still check it all out dont want you to suffer the same fate as I.

Good luck

[justsomeguy]

I wish I suffered such things - maybe then I would still have the ZZR.

Although I just ride the ZXR like a NANA.. I'd hate it to suffer the effects of a crash.

But resting your foot on the Pillion rest might explain alot, but still check it all out dont want you to suffer the same fate as I.

Good luck

Will see how it's all going. May get one of the more experienced people here to take it for a ride to see how it feels or something like that. All in the future though.... need to get some cash first and fast!!!!!!!

[John]

Will see how it's all going. May get one of the more experienced people here to take it for a ride to see how it feels or something like that. All in the future though.... need to get some cash first and fast!!!!!!!
I hear the sex industry is hireing :p

[justsomeguy]

I hear the sex industry is hireing :p

Can I have the address please??:whistle:

[erik]

Wow, sorry to hear you crashed.
You're lucky you were able to ride home afterwards!
I'd offer to help, but I'm going to be busy as hell the next few weeks with stuff for uni.

BTW, Tom has come off at least twice when the front let go while braking in a straight line on the zzr... Coincidence? Or is there something about the bike that makes it prone to the front letting go?

[justsomeguy]

Wow, sorry to hear you crashed.
You're lucky you were able to ride home afterwards!
I'd offer to help, but I'm going to be busy as hell the next few weeks with stuff for uni.

Thanks mate.. yes it's nearing the end of semester isn't it. Worst part of the semester:whistle:

Thanks for all your help so far. The repair process is gonna be a slow one this time around. Actually all I need is just the foot rest bracket. And I'll be sweet.

[inlinefour]

Can't say Ive ever lost my virginity, at least from how is explained in the dictionary (PT) :killingme

[Lee Rusty]

buggered - here is somebody who is happy he fell off.

geez mate the idea is not to - and certainly not to be happy about it.

wait till you have paid all the bills, see if you are still going yippie

[justsomeguy]

buggered - here is somebody who is happy he fell off.

geez mate the idea is not to - and certainly not to be happy about it.

wait till you have paid all the bills, see if you are still going yippie

I'm not happy i fell off, I'm happy I rode away with another story to tell, rather than lying in the ICU.

The bills won't be too much. All I need is a little foot bracket. The rest is just cosmetic. Bout $100 (prob $50) max in plastic welding and another 300-400 for a full respray. I can do the prep myself and find parts from wreckers. Will take a couple of months to get the bike looking mint again, but it's rideable as it is so:whistle:

[justsomeguy]

BTW, Tom has come off at least twice when the front let go while braking in a straight line on the zzr... Coincidence? Or is there something about the bike that makes it prone to the front letting go?

Really?? Ranzer what were the details???

[John]

Really?? Ranzer what were the details???
Maybe its the tire profile they do have a notoriously skinny front end! What is it a 100mm / 60mm?

[justsomeguy]

Maybe its the tire profile they do have a notoriously skinny front end! What is it a 100mm / 60mm?

Yup, something like that....... but I think rider skill levels also has a lot to do with it.

But hey even Rossi crashes...... it just happens........

However I'm sticking to my story of diesel/oil spill:whistle:

[John]

Yup, something like that....... but I think rider skill levels also has a lot to do with it.

But hey even Rossi crashes...... it just happens........

However I'm sticking to my story of diesel/oil spill:whistle:
Just like my gravel story, makes you seem more rugged :lol:

[justsomeguy]

Just like my gravel story, makes you seem more rugged :lol:

hehehehe:lol:

My fault should have been more careful...... the road had an inch of water covering it yesterday.

Bloody slippery today too. Bit weird trying to brake hard with only one brake.

[John]

hehehehe:lol:

My fault should have been more careful...... the road had an inch of water covering it yesterday.

Bloody slippery today too. Bit weird trying to brake hard with only one brake.
When you brake hard then you only need one brake because the rear is up in the air ;)...

[Mr Skid]

BTW, Tom has come off at least twice when the front let go while braking in a straight line on the zzr... Coincidence? Or is there something about the bike that makes it prone to the front letting go?Well they are Kawasakis... :moon: (http://misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=33#)

[justsomeguy]

Well they are Kawasakis... :moon: (http://misc.php/?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=33#)

Says the guy who falls of on most rides:bs: .........

[Mr Skid]

Says the guy who falls of on most rides:bs: .........Name a ride we've been on where I've chucked it down the road..

At the risk of being serious for a moment and destroying my hard cultivated image as a carefree crash prone teenager, I think what Lee Rusty said does have currency.

Rather than looking at it as a "oh well, there was diesel / gravel / a gumboot on the road, it was an external factor, can't be helped." We need to consider what role our observation and riding skills play in keeping us safe.

Mentally it sure feels better being able to put the blame on someone else, but blame doesn't fix fairings or broken bones.

[justsomeguy]

Name a ride we've been on where I've chucked it down the road..

At the risk of being serious for a moment and destroying my hard cultivated image as a carefree crash prone teenager, I think what Lee Rusty said does have currency.

Rather than looking at it as a "oh well, there was diesel / gravel / a gumboot on the road, it was an external factor, can't be helped." We need to consider what role our observation and riding skills play in keeping us safe.

Mentally it sure feels better being able to put the blame on someone else, but blame doesn't fix fairings or broken bones.

Hmmmmmmmmm........:wait:

There was this one time at band camp...... oh well :whocares:

Sure riding skills definitely play a big point as do observation skills, but sometimes you need to look for things you don't know to look for that's where experience and knowledge come into play. Both of which I'm trying hard to gain. The last thing any of us want to do is crash and deal with the consequences, especially on our finances.

It is very important consider what role our observation and riding skills play in keeping us safe.

What is equally important is to treat it as a learning experience and not as a great chance to cry over spilt milk.

After my fall and seeing zapf do the same a few feet infront of me I have learned a ton of info.

[Biff]

Glad your ok mate.
Now send your stained underpants to the usual address in order to get them framed.
:niceone:

[FROSTY]

Hmmmmmmmmm........:wait:

There was this one time at band camp...... oh well :whocares:

Sure riding skills definitely play a big point as do observation skills, but sometimes you need to look for things you don't know to look for that's where experience and knowledge come into play. Both of which I'm trying hard to gain. The last thing any of us want to do is crash and deal with the consequences, especially on our finances.

It is very important consider what role our observation and riding skills play in keeping us safe.

What is equally important is to treat it as a learning experience and not as a great chance to cry over spilt milk.

After my fall and seeing zapf do the same a few feet infront of me I have learned a ton of info.
Im glad ya aint too badly banged up dude.
The experience thing--yep ya just dont know when ya gonnna need it aye?

[erik]

Really?? Ranzer what were the details???
The ones I know of...

He said he was coming up to a roundabout in the wet and braked a bit too hard and the front let go.

The other one was in the dry, coming back along Old North road. He was behind me and we were coming up to the one-way bridge. I slowed down a bit too much because I wasn't sure if we had right of way or not :Oops: , and he had to brake hard-ish and it basically let go and fell over.

Both were at low speed with not much damage done, just the cracks in the fairings probably grew a bit bigger... ;)

I've noticed the front brakes on zzr's are pretty good, better than the ones on the Zeal anyway. I wonder if maybe the fairly high amount of rake on the forks might make the front wheel more prone to skidding?
I dunno :spudwhat: maybe it's just the combination of good front brakes and narrow front tyres? Or just two unlucky zzr riders?

I've gotta say I was surprised that time when you stopped quick on your drive and the front wheel skidded a bit. Sure the tyres were cold, but it was in the dry and the drive didn't look slippery or anything.

[justsomeguy]

Glad your ok mate.
Now send your stained underpants to the usual address in order to get them framed.
:niceone:

Your bike says: Blackbird down??? What happened???

No time for me to soil my underpants. By the time I gathered what was happening. I was standing up looking at my bike deep in a gutter instead of under me:D

[justsomeguy]

The ones I know of...

He said he was coming up to a roundabout in the wet and braked a bit too hard and the front let go.

The other one was in the dry, coming back along Old North road. He was behind me and we were coming up to the one-way bridge. I slowed down a bit too much because I wasn't sure if we had right of way or not :Oops: , and he had to brake hard-ish and it basically let go and fell over.

Both were at low speed with not much damage done, just the cracks in the fairings probably grew a bit bigger... ;)

I've noticed the front brakes on zzr's are pretty good, better than the ones on the Zeal anyway. I wonder if maybe the fairly high amount of rake on the forks might make the front wheel more prone to skidding?
I dunno :spudwhat: maybe it's just the combination of good front brakes and narrow front tyres? Or just two unlucky zzr riders?

I've gotta say I was surprised that time when you stopped quick on your drive and the front wheel skidded a bit. Sure the tyres were cold, but it was in the dry and the drive didn't look slippery or anything.

The reason they skidded was cos I applied the brakes rather roughly, not smoothly but just jammed them. On Saturday I was being much more smoother....... but it fell all the same......

[justsomeguy]

:D :laugh: :killingme ............. :whistle: :niceone: :wait:

[Two Smoker]

Glad your ok mate :niceone: and sounds like the bike is fine...

[cammo]

The ones I know of...

He said he was coming up to a roundabout in the wet and braked a bit too hard and the front let go.

The other one was in the dry, coming back along Old North road. He was behind me and we were coming up to the one-way bridge. I slowed down a bit too much because I wasn't sure if we had right of way or not :Oops: , and he had to brake hard-ish and it basically let go and fell over.

Both were at low speed with not much damage done, just the cracks in the fairings probably grew a bit bigger... ;)

I've noticed the front brakes on zzr's are pretty good, better than the ones on the Zeal anyway. I wonder if maybe the fairly high amount of rake on the forks might make the front wheel more prone to skidding?
I dunno :spudwhat: maybe it's just the combination of good front brakes and narrow front tyres? Or just two unlucky zzr riders?

I've gotta say I was surprised that time when you stopped quick on your drive and the front wheel skidded a bit. Sure the tyres were cold, but it was in the dry and the drive didn't look slippery or anything.

i managed to lock my front brack down a damp hill, luckily i kept my bike standing up. gave me a good fright thought. but then in saying that ive had to aggresivly slam on the breaks and it didnt lock the front, so i guesss their not too bad...

[notme]

Hey dude...i must say i like your attitude! I am a terminal optimist too - why worry about wee things like a slightly banged up bike when there are far better things to be doing, and far worse things that could have happenned? :niceone:

Re your repairs - Chuck at Anything Plastic in East Tamaki did an awesome job for me when i ducked up my Kwaka.... I had a group of similar priced quotes but he inspired the confidence to let him tackle the repairs, and well..... pics are in this thread, decide for yourself :-) http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=9382&highlight=duck

[Two Smoker]

Re your repairs - Chuck at Anything Plastic in East Tamaki did an awesome job for me when i ducked up my Kwaka.... I had a group of similar priced quotes but he inspired the confidence to let him tackle the repairs, and well..... pics are in this thread, decide for yourself :-) http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=9382&highlight=duck

Chuck at Anything plastic is THE MAN!!!

[justsomeguy]

Hey dude...i must say i like your attitude! I am a terminal optimist too - why worry about wee things like a slightly banged up bike when there are far better things to be doing, and far worse things that could have happenned? :niceone:



YOU da man Allun :niceone: good to meet another like minded person...... "Terminal Optimist" ............. muhahahahahahaa :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


the FIRST thing i did on instinct was look what was behind me....I really DON'T need to survive a bin just to be taken out by a following truck!


Actually that was what was on my mind too as I was rolling and rolling and rolling and rolling and rolling and rolling (fucking enough already:mad: ) I just wanted to stop get up and get the hell off the road......

Luckily for me thank God I could. I didn't stop to even check if anything was broken, just got up and hooffed it........

[justsomeguy]

Thanks guys I'm off to anything plastics first thing tomorrow morning.

6B Newark Pl
East Tamaki

Got Nooooo money so will only be going in for a chat!!

[Zapf]

Who told you that???? It is one of the most difficult colours to notice. Orange is the easiest colour followed by yellow and flourescent green, etc.

Silver is one of the harder colours to see, was watching a program on crashes, they reckon that's why James Dean was killed cos the truck driver didn't see his car.......

They also compiled a list of car accidents, and silver cars have a lower ratio of accidents proportionally. As there are more silver cars on the road...

[250learna]

They also compiled a list of car accidents, and silver cars have a lower ratio of accidents proportionally. As there are more silver cars on the road...
they are also much harder to see as they blend in with the road kinda easily... bright colour is always a better choice if you want others to see you comming, oh and headlights do a bit!

Good to see you handling the *edit* slide so well, im still waiting for my time and i hope it never comes! :no:

[justsomeguy]

they are also much harder to see as they blend in with the road kinda easily... bright colour is always a better choice if you want others to see you comming, oh and headlights do a bit!

Good to see you handling the crash so well, im still waiting for my time and i hope it never comes! :no:

I didn't really crash, just slipped and fell got up, and rode away........

Now if I had highsided, broken some bones, ended up in hospital :no: I might have had a different attitude......will happen sometime the way I'm going......:whistle:

But what can I say?? I'm a "terminal optimist"...... "aye allun":niceone:

[notme]

yup :ride:

"OPTIMIST: Someone who gets chased up a tree by a lion, and finds time to enjoy the view"

[justsomeguy]

yup :ride:

"OPTIMIST: Someone who gets chased up a tree by a lion, and finds time to enjoy the view"

Some people see the dirty window, while others the colour of the sky:msn-wink:

Now go to sleep will ya, the weekends over:D

Good Night:cold:

[Coldkiwi]

Sorry to hear about the dingle JSG. SH22 is notorious for crap on the road and needs to be kept in the forefront of ones mind when going for it down that way

[Hitcher]

Well the good news, according to Pastor Brian Tamaki, is that once you have been properly "rehabilitated" you can enjoy your "second virginity". Praise the lord...