The most insane riding i've ever seen, period. Total nutters!

[racefactory]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hzrbntlSVY

Not totally sure if this has been linked before but I really don't think there is anything like this one.

Ducati 999 and a GSXR pushing to the extremes on the road. Huge lean angles, drifting, stunts, high speed, going over the center line on blind corners, lane splitting in corners with oncoming traffic...

Are these guys still alive? There is a time and a place for that type of riding and it sure isn't where they were. Makes for great watching! :clap: Does anyone know anything behind this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBneHUi80h8&feature=related Also some insane Japanese riders (mind the music lol!) pulling some crazy lean angles with a comforting concrete wall right next to them... madness. One guy almost loses it at 50 seconds highsiding into the wall.

Worth the watch.

[Laxi]

serious dipshits! i'd be amazed if they're still around

greek by the look of it

[racefactory]

serious dipshits! i'd be amazed if they're still around

greek by the look of it

Yeah I know. Just watched it again, it's beggars belief he didn't highside his bike with some of the slides he's powering out from those bends.

Just found out the bikes are GSXR1000 and Ducati 749, riders are actually professional Greek SBK racers would you believe it. Papastavrou shops are race sponsors and sell motorcycle gear and accessories and kebabs are what they had for lunch after their ride...

[slofox]

The guy with the camera (first vid) seems to come into a couple of corners with the clutch disengaged....yes? Not for me, that...

[avgas]

Squid must be going cheap this year. I prefer it tenderised.

[Laxi]

Yeah I know. Just watched it again, it's beggars belief he didn't highside his bike with some of the slides he's powering out from those bends.

I cant figure out how the lead bike mannaged to avoid a head on with the bike about 2/3 the way though:no:

[AllanB]

I'm pretty sure they were filming for a new ACC Summer Motorcycle TV advert .......

With snippets of that video running and the catch phrase:

"Watch out for bikes this Summer - they are fucking nutters"

[paddy]

Amazing bike control. Amazing lack of decision making ability. Also, the video is flagged as 18+ so you need to log to view it. That doesn't seem to be a constraint when you embed videos so I've embedded it below for anyone else who doesn't have a google account and can't be bothered making one. :-)

8hzrbntlSVY

[george formby]

Overtaking with an oncoming truck puckered me up tightly.
Was in Switzerland a while back & saw similar antics as I was passed by a few local sprotbike riders. Fully committed, knee down & backing in big time. I was fairly kakkin myself, wobbling along with full panniers & a bossy satnav wondering what would come round the next corner at me.

[p.dath]

I'll put my money on one of them being dead within 5 years.

[carver]

sure, its a old kb coro loop

[nsrpaul]

nice roads:jerry:

[DarkLord]

The dude with the camera made an absolute mess of his lines round some of those right hand corners. He was very lucky in a few cases not to end up in the dirt.

[DarkLord]

After watching that whole thing, I realized that neither of those two dudes are actually very good. Sure, they can ride hard and know how to lean but neither of them are actually that good. Horrible lines around corners in places (especially the camera bike) and there was nothing smooth about any of that, plus the obvious total disregard for the other road users and overtaking round blind corners.

Let's hope Nick Smith doesn't see that aye.... :doh:

[quickbuck]

After watching that whole thing, I realized that neither of those two dudes are actually very good. Sure, they can ride hard and know how to lean but neither of them are actually that good. Horrible lines around corners in places (especially the camera bike) and there was nothing smooth about any of that,.......:

That was my impression too....
Both Muppets.

Yup, camera bike almost ended up in the bank a couple of times, and the bike even wanted to spit him off at one point...

The whole backing it in thing he was doing.... All for show, and useless at it.

Okay, my last name isn't Slight, BUT I can spot somebody who can ride... These guys couldn't.

I don't believe they are SBK riders either. Those guys get paid far too well to play in dangerous places like that!

[Maki]

The guy with the camera (first vid) seems to come into a couple of corners with the clutch disengaged....yes? Not for me, that...

That is an interesting comment. May I ask what is wrong with coming into corners with the clutch disengaged?

[roadracingoldfart]

That is an interesting comment. May I ask what is wrong with coming into corners with the clutch disengaged?


Do you really need to ask why ????

Just look at the eratic movement of the video bike when he does it, I gave up counting the times he got lost in the gearbox. He was suffering from target fixation and not referancing his lines well at all.


Paul.

[p.dath]

That is an interesting comment. May I ask what is wrong with coming into corners with the clutch disengaged?

With regard to cornering, of the total contact patch your tyres make with the ground, you want the front tyre contact patch to be 40% of the total, and the rear to make up 60% of the total contact patch.
To achieve this you need 0.1G to 0.2G of acceleration, which is usually gentle throttle.

Also of note, is that as you enter a corner you do so by opposing the gyroscopic effect of the front tyre. Once in the corner you mostly oppose the gyroscopic effect of the rear tyre (yes - the rear tyre provides more of the cornering effect once you are actually in the corner).

Throttling off, or engaging the clutch, will shrink your rear contact patch. This will reduce both your traction, and while in the corner, reduce your ability to counter balance and turn.

I can recommend Keith Code's Twist of the Wrist I & II, and the Soft Science of Road Racing if you want further information explaining corner technique, and in particular why you need to apply gentle throttle while cornering.

EDIT: Oops, you said dis-engaging the clutch. So if you are meaning to enter the corner with power applied, I agree.

[dipshit]

Goes to show that being a fast rider doesn't automatically mean being a good rider.

[White trash]

With regard to cornering, of the total contact patch your tyres make with the ground, you want the front tyre contact patch to be 40% of the total, and the rear to make up 60% of the total contact patch.
To achieve this you need 0.1G to 0.2G of acceleration, which is usually gentle throttle.

Also of note, is that as you enter a corner you do so by opposing the gyroscopic effect of the front tyre. Once in the corner you mostly oppose the gyroscopic effect of the rear tyre (yes - the rear tyre provides more of the cornering effect once you are actually in the corner).

Throttling off, or engaging the clutch, will shrink your rear contact patch. This will reduce both your traction, and while in the corner, reduce your ability to counter balance and turn.

I can recommend Keith Code's Twist of the Wrist I & II, and the Soft Science of Road Racing if you want further information explaining corner technique, and in particular why you need to apply gentle throttle while cornering.

EDIT: Oops, you said dis-engaging the clutch. So if you are meaning to enter the corner with power applied, I agree.
A very technical description, which actually makes very little sense in a fast riding situation.

Not many corners I've ever accelerated in to to be honest......

[dipshit]

Not many corners I've ever accelerated in to to be honest......

So you don't notice the difference between a trailing throttle or a neutral throttle or starting to crack on the gas while going through a corner...???

[Motoracer]

A very technical description, which actually makes very little sense in a fast riding situation.

Not many corners I've ever accelerated in to to be honest......


Yep, I'm with you ol Trashy.

[Goblin]

That camera guy is fuckin hopeless! What a horrible ride!!! Glad they're not on NZ roads.

[p.dath]

A very technical description, which actually makes very little sense in a fast riding situation.

Not many corners I've ever accelerated in to to be honest......

This is more obvious on a sports tyre - but you'll notice how a motorbike tyre is curved. The outer edge of the tyre was a smaller circumference than the middle of the tyre.

So if you keep the engine RPM exactly the same and lean your bike over, it will slow down (your now riding on a "smaller" part of the tyre).
Conversely if you go enter the corner and lean over without slowing down then your RPM's have to drop.

So normally you would have already brought your bike to the correct entry speed for the corner before entering it. So if you want to prevent your bike from slowing down further (which makes it more difficult to start leaning) you have to apply positive throttle.
You may find you are already doing this but don't realise it.

If you want to scrub off speed in the corner you can keep the throttle on, just don't increase the revs.

But for the reasons described previously, closing the throttle or engaging the clutch so there is no power to the rear wheel will both reduce your traction and your ability to corner.

[Goblin]

This is more obvious on a sports tyre - but you'll notice how a motorbike tyre is curved. The outer edge of the tyre was a smaller circumference than the middle of the tyre.

So if you keep the engine RPM exactly the same and lean your bike over, it will slow down (your now riding on a "smaller" part of the tyre).
Conversely if you go enter the corner and lean over without slowing down then your RPM's have to drop.Dunno what kind if tyres are on your bike but my revs increase when tipping into a corner.:confused:

[p.dath]

Dunno what kind if tyres are on your bike but my revs increase when tipping into a corner.:confused:

Any chance you are applying positive throttle - like your meant to be, but maybe don't realise you are? A bit like counter balancing?

[Goblin]

Any chance you are applying positive throttle - like your meant to be, but maybe don't realise you are? A bit like counter balancing?Of course Im applying a positive throttle...not gunna corner very well if not. If you go into a corner without slowing down how do your revs drop??

[White trash]

This is more obvious on a sports tyre - but you'll notice how a motorbike tyre is curved. The outer edge of the tyre was a smaller circumference than the middle of the tyre.

So if you keep the engine RPM exactly the same and lean your bike over, it will slow down (your now riding on a "smaller" part of the tyre).
Conversely if you go enter the corner and lean over without slowing down then your RPM's have to drop.

So normally you would have already brought your bike to the correct entry speed for the corner before entering it. So if you want to prevent your bike from slowing down further (which makes it more difficult to start leaning) you have to apply positive throttle.
You may find you are already doing this but don't realise it.

If you want to scrub off speed in the corner you can keep the throttle on, just don't increase the revs.

But for the reasons described previously, closing the throttle or engaging the clutch so there is no power to the rear wheel will both reduce your traction and your ability to corner.
Sorry, it's usually best not to try and bullshit a bullshitter.

When riding fast, be it a track or elsewhere, I find myself braking/decellerating almost right up to the apex. I'm pretty sure my bike can decrease its speed more rapidly than the extra 25rpm of engine speed it picks up through the decreased radius of the edge of the tyre.

The notion that someone would try to exactly match their throttle position to the engine revs, therefore accelerating to maintain a set speed means that that person is spending 9 of their 10 dollars on concentration on an unimportant task is downright dangerous. If you actually DO THIS, you're a peanut and will one day run out of road without realizing it.

[White trash]

Any chance you are applying positive throttle - like your meant to be, but maybe don't realise you are? A bit like counter balancing?

Zero chance. My throttle is closed, I'm changing down gears and my front brake is applied. You suggest I should throw an open throttle in the mix to REALLY fuck the balance up?

[White trash]

So you don't notice the difference between a trailing throttle or a neutral throttle or starting to crack on the gas while going through a corner...???
When I'm exiting, yeah sure I've got some throttle on. Usually more and more as the bike stands up. But entering it, no.

[Goblin]

Zero chance. My throttle is closed, I'm changing down gears and my front brake is applied. You suggest I should throw an open throttle in the mix to REALLY fuck the balance up?What about through a set of corners where you're on the gas...you've already done your braking and changing down then flick it from right to left? eg: turn 2,3 and 4 of Taupo? I wanna know how p.daths revs would drop?

[White trash]

What about through a set of corners where you're on the gas...you've already done your braking and changing down then flick it from right to left? eg: turn 2,3 and 4 of Taupo? I wanna know how p.daths revs would drop?
Because the circumference of the rear tyre is less on the edge (when you're leaning) than the center (when you're straight up and down)

Therefore, when you lean over, ASSUMING your speed is maintained exactly, the rear wheel has to make more revolutions to travel the same distance and the engine revs will rise.

[Goblin]

Because the circumference of the rear tyre is less on the edge (when you're leaning) than the center (when you're straight up and down)

Therefore, when you lean over, ASSUMING your speed is maintained exactly, the rear wheel has to make more revolutions to travel the same distance and the engine revs will rise.Yeah I realise this....but I dont get what he means by the following.


Conversely if you go enter the corner and lean over without slowing down then your RPM's have to drop.


Technical stuff aside...the morons in the vid cant ride for shit.

[Teflon]

Do you really need to ask why ????

Just look at the eratic movement of the video bike when he does it, I gave up counting the times he got lost in the gearbox. He was suffering from target fixation and not referancing his lines well at all.


Paul.

Looks to me like he was doing it on purpose for the camera


It may look out of control to us.. but its probably just a 'Sunday ride' to them. They remind me of the old Fastbikes vids...

If only i had half the skill they have..

[pritch]

Yeah I realise this....but I dont get what he means by the following


I think he just got that wrong: same speed, smaller diameter = more revs.

In the TT video where Shaun Harris is climbing the mountain the sound of the changing revs is quite marked and, from memory, he comments that the throttle is steady, it's the changing lean angle causing the changing engine note.

It's not nearly so noticeable when I'm riding my bike :whistle:

[White trash]

Best spot for me is through the kink at Pukekohe. Bike jussssst hit's the limiter going through it then backs out of the red as you get verticle again. Sounds fucken cool too.

What the hell would HArris know about racing bikes anyway? :)

[R6_kid]

Yeah I realise this....but I dont get what he means by the following...


It's wrong. As WT said, if you roll from the centre to the edge of the tyre without slowing down, the revs will INCREASE.

[racefactory]

Technical stuff aside...the morons in the vid cant ride for shit.

Come on man cut the ego, you really don't need to prove they are inferior to you. Sure they are riding outrageously but like Teflon says, for them it's probably just a sunday morning ride. All for the camera. They certainly have skill and are familiar with the limits of the bike, there's no denying that.

[AllanB]

I think he just got that wrong: same speed, smaller diameter = more revs.

In the TT video where Shaun Harris is climbing the mountain the sound of the changing revs is quite marked and, from memory, he comments that the throttle is steady, it's the changing lean angle causing the changing engine note.

It's not nearly so noticeable when I'm riding my bike :whistle:

Yeah - you notice it on the Moto GP coverage too - revs rise as they dip into the corner.
Simple really - doing say 100 km/h in a straight line on a standard 17 inch rear wheel and tyre takes lets say 3,500 rpm - if you change the rear for a 16 inch combo you'll find the bike doing something like 4,000 or more to maintain that same 100 km/h. The curved tyre has a similar effect on the smaller edge.


Back to the video - I also noted how shit that Suzuki sounded and how it struggled to keep up with the much smaller Ducati ......... just an observation. :bleh:

[Goblin]

Come on man cut the ego, you really don't need to prove they are inferior to you. Sure they are riding outrageously but like Teflon says, for them it's probably just a sunday morning ride. All for the camera. They certainly have skill and are familiar with the limits of the bike, there's no denying that. :slap: That aint skill...that's stupidity. Squids!

[p.dath]

I think he just got that wrong: same speed, smaller diameter = more revs.


Yes, that is correct. I made an error.

[sil3nt]

The guy with the camera (first vid) seems to come into a couple of corners with the clutch disengaged....yes? Not for me, that...Dont think he had the clutch disengaged coming into any corners. The revs dropped because the back wheel was locked up.

[sil3nt]

This is my favourite race vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ_GVQRRCGg

Wonder how it feels to crash a rare superbike :whistle:

[Goblin]

This is my favourite race vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ_GVQRRCGg

Wonder how it feels to crash a rare superbike :whistle:Ummm...painful? :doh: Had to happen tho. It always does, sooner or later, when you use public roads as personal racetracks.:spanking:

[sparkles]

wow hes luckily

[AllanB]

Dont think he had the clutch disengaged coming into any corners. The revs dropped because the back wheel was locked up.

Pretty sure the clutch is pulled in - engine noise dies and revs drop, plus theres a noticable noise when it's released. Strange way to corner.

Doesn't matter, he'll be dead soon :no:

[tri boy]

This is my favourite race vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ_GVQRRCGg

Wonder how it feels to crash a rare superbike :whistle:

Thats not a "race vid". Thats two squids endangering joe public on an epic scale.

[sil3nt]

Pretty sure the clutch is pulled in - engine noise dies and revs drop, plus theres a noticable noise when it's released. Strange way to corner.

Doesn't matter, he'll be dead soon :no:Perhaps i missed it could someone tell me at what point in the video this happens? From what i see he slams on the rear brake into almost every corner which is why the bike gets so sideways. This causes the revs to drop and when he releases the brake the revs rise again. :confused:

[AllanB]

Perhaps i missed it could someone tell me at what point in the video this happens? From what i see he slams on the rear brake into almost every corner which is why the bike gets so sideways. This causes the revs to drop and when he releases the brake the revs rise again. :confused:

Hmm could be I guess - never thought of that. There is a bit where he's passing a car (blind corner one coming at him I think) and the revs are down where I'd expect to see them screaming. It's like he's passing under shear momentum (probably 100 mph!).

Farked if I know really - I would have crashed on the second corner at those speeds :bleh:

[steel001]

As he comes in it's clutch out, the engine basically stalls as he locks the brake, starts again as he lets the brake out, it's a direct drive thing.

IMO anyway

[monkeymcbean]

If I was on a bike going the opposite direction and any bike cutting over on the other side of the road was in front of me just being a absolute arsehole, and i had the chance to come across him somewhere I would have no absolutely no hesitation plunging my hard knuckled motorcycle glove right into his muggins...no hesitation at all, and i would do it...yeah. :Pokey:

[mikeey01]

The comments I posted on this vid ages ago....

I bow to the skills though, impressive stuff!
Shame the gsxr rear tyre went off though, but dam go the Ducati :)

That's some skills right there!
Dam fine riding, power slides on a gsx whilst racing excellent skills, unless you've done it you don't know how hard it actually is!

Racing on public roads.... a little bit of stupidity guys.. bad form crossing them lines go find yourself a motorcycle club and put it on the track, do yourself and other road users a favour, your giving us a bad name!

[Teflon]

Thats not a "race vid". Thats two squids endangering joe public on an epic scale.

Shane byrne, Rob Frost and Gary M.... are not squids

Theyre very talented riders

[Mikkel]

Wonder how it feels to crash a rare superbike :whistle:

Define rare and I might be able to enlighten you <_<


That's some skills right there!
Dam fine riding, power slides on a gsx whilst racing excellent skills, unless you've done it you don't know how hard it actually is!

Fine riding? Power slides? GSX-R?

How often have you ever seen the moto-gp guys do power slides? Into the corner. In the dry.

You do realise, I hope, that the sliding you see the GSX-R do is due to rear-wheel lock-up (and I am assuming that they have a slipper clutch, so it would be the rear brake too) coming into the corner? That won't gain you anything in itself - except upsetting the balance of the bike - and it will most likely make you slower. Excellent skills? Nah, just poor judgement - or showing off.

[michael]

Maaaaatttee if I could handle my bike like that I'd be stoked. That was well impressive.

[Chrislost]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hzrbntlSVY

Not totally sure if this has been linked before but I really don't think there is anything like this one.

Ducati 999 and a GSXR pushing to the extremes on the road. Huge lean angles, drifting, stunts, high speed, going over the center line on blind corners, lane splitting in corners with oncoming traffic...

Are these guys still alive? There is a time and a place for that type of riding and it sure isn't where they were. Makes for great watching! :clap: Does anyone know anything behind this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBneHUi80h8&feature=related Also some insane Japanese riders (mind the music lol!) pulling some crazy lean angles with a comforting concrete wall right next to them... madness. One guy almost loses it at 50 seconds highsiding into the wall.

Worth the watch.

Looks a little tamer than the onboard footage i saw from the corro loop. Only difference being the kiwis were keeping it (mostly) in their lane.

[Fluffy Cat]

Yeah...back brake there. Wish i had a slipper clutch on the SP1. Thanks for the vid. But they are were Dumbasses:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[avgas]

I just loved the parts where they thought the fastest part through a corner was a straight line. What ya gonna do when you get to the other side - fucking nancy hovering over the brake because they are as smooth as a fingernail milkshake

[racefactory]

I detect a load of over inflated egos in this thread... holy shit guys, you don't have to try prove they are inferior to you, you know! It's plainly obvious they are just showing off, skidding about and having some mindless fun... albeit rather too rediculously. If you can't see that then get off your high horse lol! Like the fastbikes video, these guys are very skilled riders... very familiar with the limits of the bike and would most likely destroy all here on the track. Anyway, the ones up top usually are a bit nutty anyway!

[racefactory]

Looks a little tamer than the onboard footage i saw from the corro loop

Gimme link!!!

[White trash]

I detect a load of over inflated egos in this thread... holy shit guys, you don't have to try prove they are inferior to you, you know! It's plainly obvious they are just showing off, skidding about and having some mindless fun... albeit rather too rediculously. If you can't see that then get off your high horse lol! Like the fastbikes video, these guys are very skilled riders... very familiar with the limits of the bike and would most likely destroy all here on the track. Anyway, the ones up top usually are a bit nutty anyway!
Just to inform you, I've got the most over inflated ego of any KBer but I don't remember dissing their skills.

As for saying they'd murder any KBers or a track, I'd be keen to take that bet. As I'm sure would Mr Shirriffs, Mr Sam Smith, Mr James Smith, Shaun Harris, Sloan Frost, Andrew Stroud........

People of KB seem to forget that they hold company with some of the very best road racers in the world every day. I don't know of another single forum that boasts so much riding talent as KB, all of whom quick to step forward and offer advice or a helping hand. We're a remarkably lucky bunch.

[mikeey01]

People of KB seem to forget that they hold company with some of the very best road racers in the world every day. I don't know of another single forum that boasts so much riding talent as KB, all of whom quick to step forward and offer advice or a helping hand. We're a remarkably lucky bunch.

Amen! :niceone:

[Reckless]

Just to inform you, I've got the most over inflated ego of any KBer but I don't remember dissing their skills.

As for saying they'd murder any KBers or a track, I'd be keen to take that bet. As I'm sure would Mr Shirriffs, Mr Sam Smith, Mr James Smith, Shaun Harris, Sloan Frost, Andrew Stroud........

People of KB seem to forget that they hold company with some of the very best road racers in the world every day. I don't know of another single forum that boasts so much riding talent as KB, all of whom quick to step forward and offer advice or a helping hand. We're a remarkably lucky bunch.

I've never officially meet you WT but that would be the most sensible post I think I've ever seen from you. Us off road types arne't big on giving KB bling but I might have to bling you for that!! LOL!!!

[Reckless]

Just to inform you, I've got the most over inflated ego of any KBer but I don't remember dissing their skills.

As for saying they'd murder any KBers or a track, I'd be keen to take that bet. As I'm sure would Mr Shirriffs, Mr Sam Smith, Mr James Smith, Shaun Harris, Sloan Frost, Andrew Stroud........

People of KB seem to forget that they hold company with some of the very best road racers in the world every day. I don't know of another single forum that boasts so much riding talent as KB, all of whom quick to step forward and offer advice or a helping hand. We're a remarkably lucky bunch.

I've never officially meet you WT but that would be the most sensible post I think I've ever seen from you.
Us off road types arne't big on giving KB bling but I might have to bling you for that!! LOL!!!

[t3mp0r4ry nzr]

nothing wrong with a bit of rear brake! except when you lock up the back wheel from it.

[grusomhat]

There was definitely technical skill in their riding. However they should get the fuck off the roads. The skill in riding on the road is staying on your own goddamn side, and not having to endo because you came up to fast behind a car.

[racefactory]

People of KB seem to forget that they hold company with some of the very best road racers in the world every day. I don't know of another single forum that boasts so much riding talent as KB, all of whom quick to step forward and offer advice or a helping hand. We're a remarkably lucky bunch.

Ah yeap, totally. I meant to say 'most'.

I'd just be interested as to what these guys in the video have to say on the fact that one dusty section of road at those lean angles would have their front wheel out from under them in a split second and send them sliding straight into incoming traffic.

[tri boy]

Shane byrne, Rob Frost and Gary M.... are not squids

Theyre very talented riders

On the track they are fast talented m/cycle racers. Riding as they did in that you tube clip, they are the biggest squids I have witnessed. Don't try to tell me otherwise.
Campervans parked up on the side of a coastal holiday area have toddlers/children close by.
They showed total disregard to the life of any human in their vicinity.
I'm surprised those holiday makers helped them up.
Maybe they like fresh squid.

[sil3nt]

Gimme link!!!Heres one. Not all the bad just high speed riding on public roads

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=543tEuRyInU&feature=related

I think i have seen worse from the coro loop though.

[Hans]

I reckon the guy in front is actually not that bad. The rider on the camera bike seems to be out of his depth and fucks up constantly, because he has to try very hard to keep up. I haven't actually read all the posts in this thread, so sorry if I'm just repeating what someone else has already said.

[Chrislost]

nothing wrong with a bit of rear brake! except when you lock up the back wheel from it.

That ISSS what the rear brake is for isnt it?

fk me, ive been wrong all these (2) years!

[Chrislost]

I reckon the guy in front is actually not that bad. The rider on the camera bike seems to be out of his depth and fucks up constantly, because he has to try very hard to keep up. I haven't actually read all the posts in this thread, so sorry if I'm just repeating what someone else has already said.

Having watched the video of him back it in between two cars and then square the corner off and go around the car infront before the 3rd car has a head on say he knows what he is doing... or is just f'kin lucky for about 40 corners in a row...

[Chrislost]

Ah yeap, totally. I meant to say 'most'.

I'd just be interested as to what these guys in the video have to say on the fact that one dusty section of road at those lean angles would have their front wheel out from under them in a split second and send them sliding straight into incoming traffic.

they're not acually leaning much aye.
google ben bostrom http://www.motorcyclehelmetcritic.com/cache/386930-ben%20bostrom.jpg
or milky quayle http://www.photocycles.com/galleryimages/tt2003/milky.jpg
To figure out what lean angle is...

Mind you, they dont have shit roads in greeeece.
thir roads are built better then the racetracks in nz are.

[Teflon]

On the track they are fast talented m/cycle racers. Riding as they did in that you tube clip, they are the biggest squids I have witnessed. Don't try to tell me otherwise.
Campervans parked up on the side of a coastal holiday area have toddlers/children close by.
They showed total disregard to the life of any human in their vicinity.
I'm surprised those holiday makers helped them up.
Maybe they like fresh squid.

i'd like to know what your definition of squid is? Calling someone like Shane Byrne a squid, makes me laugh. Theyre fucking nutters thou.. squids, they aren't

[racefactory]

i'd like to know what your definition of squid is? Calling someone like Shane Byrne a squid, makes me laugh. Theyre fucking nutters thou.. squids, they aren't

It's got to be a piss take surely?? Shakey Bryrne? Has he heard of World Superbikes I wonder?

I'm pretty sure a squid is someone who can only ride in straight lines, likes to rev the engine, refuses to ride with safety gear and all for the total pose factor.

[tri boy]

If you don't like me calling him a squid, (I guess you really like them), then change "Squid", for "Fuckwits".
That better?
My view of a squid, is any rider who hasn't learned how to appreciate the thrill of m/cycles without endangering other people to such a level as shown in the video.
The skill level is irrelevant in my eyes. I would rather ride with a total learner that understands the responsibility towards others, than a couple of racers with ego's that get in the way of common sence.
Fuckwits, Squids, Cockheads, call them what you want.

[carver]

On the track they are fast talented m/cycle racers. Riding as they did in that you tube clip, they are the biggest squids I have witnessed. Don't try to tell me otherwise.
Campervans parked up on the side of a coastal holiday area have toddlers/children close by.
They showed total disregard to the life of any human in their vicinity.
I'm surprised those holiday makers helped them up.
Maybe they like fresh squid.

Just like the MFSC back in they day

[YellowDog]

There were a few blind bends there.

Pretty nervy stuff.

I don't think the guy following was as good as the guy he was trying to keep up with. He lost it more times than he should have on the road.

$750 regos for these guys is far too cheap.

[Squid69]

serious dipshits! i'd be amazed if they're still around

greek by the look of it

I could go out and ride like that. Its no different to taking a decent motard out to corro.
I would love sum1 on here to lend me a camera for the trip!

[Laxi]

I could go out and ride like that. Its no different to taking a decent motard out to corro.
I would love sum1 on here to lend me a camera for the trip!

and your name says it all! move along troll:scooter:

[scracha]

I'd just be interested as to what these guys in the video have to say on the fact that one dusty section of road at those lean angles would have their front wheel out from under them in a split second and send them sliding straight into incoming traffic.

They'd say that they're riding on fine European roads as opposed to shit covered New Zealand goat tracks.

Not sure if the camera bike is even using the clutch lever much TBH.

[Motoracer]

They'd say that they're riding on fine European roads as opposed to shit covered New Zealand goat tracks.

Not sure if the camera bike is even using the clutch lever much TBH.


I should not look into this thread. It just frustrates me...

How do you suppose a K1-K2 GSXR1000 (you can tell from the instrument cluster), is backing it in? They don't come with a slipper clutch so you ofcourse have to feather the clutch in manually. I won't even start with the people who are talking saying "hmmmm... I wonder why he pulls in his clutch into corners hmmm..." Are they blind to see that the bike is going sideways and this is intentional?

There, I've said my bit and I feel better. :thud:

[scracha]

How do you suppose a K1-K2 GSXR1000 (you can tell from the instrument cluster),

No, I can't tell from the instrument cluser as
a) It's a gixxer and they all look the same to me
b) I don't wear an anorak.




is backing it in? They don't come with a slipper clutch so you ofcourse
have to feather the clutch in manually. I won't even start with the people

Did I say he's using a slipper clutch? I don't think so. I doesn't sound like he's doing much "feathering" either. Sounds like he's bangin it down the box and pinging out the clutch to moi but I'm not as well educated as your good self.

[Motoracer]

Don't worry bro, I was not trying to attack you or put you down. I was just having a venting session after botteling up the rest of the BS on the thread.

FYI, to enter a corner like in the vid, you either need

- to half clutch it so that you can considerably slow down the rear wheel with out fukin up balance or locking up the rear.
OR
- a slipper clutch (you did not say it had this but if the above proceedure is not done, "backing it in ain't possible"

Anyway as you were you guys, I need to stay out of this thread as I said.

[Squid69]

Dunno what kind if tyres are on your bike but my revs increase when tipping into a corner.:confused:

I tested today and found that my engine revs decrease when i use the rear brake.

Failing that i use inside out tyres.

[scracha]

I found that if I fart before going into a corner it results in an extra 5 to 10 kays on entry speed. However, if I do it mid-corner then the extra gas upsets the bike*.



* at least it doesn't upset the girlfriend as she can't smell it on the bike


Much

[2nd2last1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulYTA_dvg6s&feature=related

lmao!!!

[mynameis]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=67081

[Chrislost]

My view of a squid, is any rider who hasn't learned how to appreciate the thrill of m/cycles without endangering other people to such a level as shown in the video.

Your wrong.
A squid is a fish.
A fish that will turn, then use jet power to squirt to the next corner.
A motorcyclist "squid" is well... you guessed it, fast on the straights and slow as hell in the corners.
These guys in the video are certainly not squidding it.

[Fluffy Cat]

Your wrong.
A squid is a fish.
A fish that will turn, then use jet power to squirt to the next corner.
A motorcyclist "squid" is well... you guessed it, fast on the straights and slow as hell in the corners.
These guys in the video are certainly not squidding it.

Darwin would not be pleased...a squid is not a fish!.:oi-grr:

[Chrislost]

Darwin would not be pleased...a squid is not a fish!.:oi-grr:

Darwin is too busy slobbering on my knob to be displeased

[tri boy]

Your wrong.
A squid is a fish.
A fish that will turn, then use jet power to squirt to the next corner.
A motorcyclist "squid" is well... you guessed it, fast on the straights and slow as hell in the corners.
These guys in the video are certainly not squidding it.


OK, fair enough then. I misinterpreted the regular use of the term Squid.
That just makes them regular ol fuckwits.
I can live with that.

[Laxi]

Your wrong.
A squid is a fish.
A fish that will turn, then use jet power to squirt to the next corner.
A motorcyclist "squid" is well... you guessed it, fast on the straights and slow as hell in the corners.
These guys in the video are certainly not squidding it.


Squid: A young motorcyclist who overestimates his abilities, boasts of his riding skills when in reality he has none. Squid bikes are usually decorated with chrome and various anodized bits. Rear tyres are too wide for their own good, swingarm extended. Really slow in the corners, and sudden bursts of acceleration when a straight appears. Squids wear no protection, deeming themselves invincible. This fact compounds intself with the fact that they engage in 'extreem riding'--performing wheelies and stoppies in public areas. Squids wreck alot. Derived from 'squirly kid'

the term has evolved to describe anyone that rides in a dangerous manner to atract attention or boast, those guys qualify

[Fluffy Cat]

Darwin is too busy slobbering on my knob to be displeased

Your dog is called Dawin!!!!:gob:

[avgas]

i'd like to know what your definition of squid is? Calling someone like Shane Byrne a squid, makes me laugh. Theyre fucking nutters thou.. squids, they aren't
Tough meat ready to be chopped by Japanese Steel
S'pose it better to squid than bacon these days. Anything is better than the Kim-Chi I see around these days lol

[Chrislost]

the term has evolved to describe anyone that rides in a dangerous manner to atract attention or boast, those guys qualify

only on KB.

[crazyhorse]

:woohoo:
:woohoo:

[musicman]

Someone told me squid meant
Stupidly
Quick,
Underdressed,
Inevitably
Dead.
i.e. someone who hoons around in shorts, t-shirts, and jandals.