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Mom

17th November 2009, 15:41

Bend-it

17th November 2009, 15:44

That's gay...

what's wrong with SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

j/k...

Big Dave

17th November 2009, 15:51

I see my suggestions of

Give me indifference! Or, like, whatever.

and

Give me indecision...or something else, maybe....

didn't make the cut huh.

Mom

17th November 2009, 15:53

I see my suggestions of

Give me indifference! Or, like, whatever.

and

Give me indecision...or something else, maybe....

didn't make the cut huh.

No man, they really suck :dodge:

Awesome turnout in Welly eh?

Big Dave

17th November 2009, 15:54

Trays impressive.

Crisis management

17th November 2009, 16:02

Trays impressive.

Geez, who taught you Italian.....

Big Dave

17th November 2009, 16:10

Hi learn heeem from hey boooook.

Headbanger

17th November 2009, 16:12

This just in, from the professional writers of battle crys.

Let me hear the battle cry
Calling on the wind
Let me see the banners fly
Before the storm begins
Let me feel the spirits soar
Destroy the enemy
Striking at the evil core
For all the world to see
This day will last forever
Deep in the hearts of men
Courage and victory
Remember, remember
One Shot At Glory
In the crossfire overhead
Fate stands before me
Words have all been said
One Shot At Glory
Driving hard and seeing red
Destiny calls me
One night of fire
One Shot At Glory
Fighting on with dignity
In life and death we deal
The power and the majesty
Amidst the blood and steel
I still hear the battle cry
The call goes on and on
I still see the banners fly
The battle's always won

Bend-it

17th November 2009, 16:14

"SpaarrtaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!"

is easier to remember... Maybe we could use: "WankaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!"

Big Dave

17th November 2009, 16:14

EJK

17th November 2009, 16:16

"SpaarrtaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!"

is easier to remember... Maybe we could use: "WankaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!"

Nah mate.... that's just madness... :msn-wink:

Rayray401

17th November 2009, 16:48

mm, just watched the news. Impressive, good job fellow bikers. I wasnt there ><

DarkLord

17th November 2009, 17:22

"SpaarrtaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!"

is easier to remember... Maybe we could use: "WankaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!"

If you own a CBR - "I RIDE HONDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"

If your battery is dead or carbies are flooded - "IT WON'T STARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"

Mom

17th November 2009, 17:40

The first AAAAAAAAA thing was funny, and taken as a joke, the rest of it is tiresome.

ready4whatever

17th November 2009, 18:00

sharpen your knives
and load your guns
today is the day we see
how fast this minister runs

Mom

17th November 2009, 18:08

sharpen your knives
and load your guns
today is the day we see
how fast this minister runs

I think we can probably leave the knives and guns out of this really.

steelestring

17th November 2009, 18:12

That's gay...

what's wrong with SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

j/k...

Just bring them to the gates!!!! I will take my shirt off and wear a leather skirt to stick it to the man:2guns: hehehe

Dodgyiti

18th November 2009, 09:19

Was waiting for someone with knowledge of Auckland CBD and parking etc to post some ideas of where we can put forward the best exposure for this, take up as many parking places with as few bikes, and concentrate the effort.

Now onto the second page of this thread and it is filling up fast with crap making it harder for people actually interested in doing something to sift through the nonsense of people with nothing better to do than post their pointless dribble (hey, isn't there a thread for that?) hoping that maybe we might find it slightly amusing.
It isn't, by the way.

Mom

18th November 2009, 09:24

Was waiting for someone with knowledge of Auckland CBD and parking etc to post some ideas of where we can put forward the best exposure for this, take up as many parking places with as few bikes, and concentrate the effort.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=112831

If you can tell me what time the shops open, I will tell you what time to bring yourself and a few hundred of your mates to Mission Bay on Sunday :D

There is actually a flyer out with all those details on it, sadly I dont have a copy, maybe we can have brunch at Mission Bay this Sunday, and CBD next? I will have had a chance to get a copy of the flyer by then :D

Headbanger

18th November 2009, 09:29

It isn't, by the way.

Oh yes it is.

Dodgyiti

18th November 2009, 09:32

Cheers Mom:love:

That's all I needed to know. Didn't see your intial post had been (sneakly) updated to Mission Bay:o

Will get around my old school no-interweb cronies this week and see who I can drag along too.

I must admit, having a lovely breakfast in Mission bay and a coffee or two is the most appealing protest I have heard of.

Wonderful idea, very Auckland for a Norfie:laugh:

Mom

18th November 2009, 09:35

StoneY

18th November 2009, 10:03

WHOS NEXT

Morphed into
BULL SHIT when Nick came out

Labour and the Greens thought this was JUST BRILLIANT!!!!!

idleidolidyll

18th November 2009, 11:26

On yer Mom and all others organising protests.

IMO we should not advertise to the media where the disruption will be as that will just alert the cops.
However, I will join this on Saturday with a few friends.
I'll also send a txt to all who signed up to Motorcycle Disruption to gather all their friends on Saturday and do the same in their areas.

IMPORTANT: No point doing this and the public not knowing why or what its about. Put signs on all your bikes telling them why you are blocking their parking spaces and make sure you blame the National Govt and Nick Smith.

Anyone looking to get organised, check out this thread too:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=112498

This is a surprise attack format where protestors will receive a txt message telling them where to go and what to bring.
txt to 021 073 0316 to sign up.
This is all anonymous buy send your location so we can plan more organised protests.

Mom

18th November 2009, 11:45

idleidolidyll

18th November 2009, 12:58

PS it is on SUNDAY :D

oops :soon:

see ya there and will be texting all troops across the country to do the same at the same time in their own towns and cities

MSTRS

18th November 2009, 13:25

Factual letters to the ed etc, or as editorial or storylines would be good too. I'm about to submit this...
Last Saturday 14/11, I was privileged to be one of the organisers of a motorcycle rally to protest proposed ACC levy rises.
Over 200 bikes turned out. Not a single mishap.
I also joined the mass of bikes that went to Parliament on Tuesday 17/11. At least 100 left Napier, picking up more as they traveled south. Over 6500 bikes eventually joined the convoy, plus maybe another 1000 who went early.
One mishap near Wanganui. A 17 year old learner made a mistake. Strangely enough, this is what learners do.

The people lining the roadsides cheering for us, and the support shown by other motorists despite any inconvenience we may have caused, was simply overwhelming. The police directing and controlling at intersections did a fabulous job. Before we reached the parking area, the line of bikes was 2 wide and stretched 25km.

I stood in Parliament grounds, shoulder to shoulder with 12,000 concerned citizens, most of them bikers, and listened to Nick Smith come out with some new lies.
He thinks the $500 rise is too much, when last week he said it should be $3700.
According to him, 1335 recorded crash claims magically became over 5000.
He said there are more m/c crashes than ever before. In 1971 it stood at 2668, 1981 was 3273, 1991 was 1963, 2001 was 658 (a wonderful low) and in 2008 it was 1335. With double the bikes there were in 2001.
Are we getting the picture?
The cattle waste was not missed by any of the crowd. Nor was it missed by the media, who nevertheless continue to fail in investigating the facts.

Motorcyclists have a message for Nick Smith. We know what you are up to, we aint buying what you are selling, and we give warning to the rest of NZ – if you haven’t figured it out yet – You’re Next.

gunnyrob

18th November 2009, 15:23

being one of 10,00 people shouting

BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT

worked for me!!!

dpex

18th November 2009, 18:21

WHAT DO WE WANT?

EQUITY!

WHEN DO WE WANT IT?

NOW!

ACC!

WE WONT PAY!

WOODHOUSE!

NO FAULT!

Repeat until voice runs out!

Simple words that sum up our message.

I propose we all put these words on paper, you should be able to get 4 to an A4 page and hand them out at any gathering that we attend in future. A scripted friggen battle cry!

The take-the-car-parks idea is great. The battle-cry, not so great.

You will notice the car-park protest will upset cagers (as it is meant to do) but the battle-cry disenfranchises them.

And so I shall bat on again that we have to get the cagers angry enough to protest TARGETED ACC levies OF ANY SORT!

Sure, they're a pathetic lot with no central image, such as bikers.

But what about trucking companies, taxi companies, Couriers? They have a financial interest in being raped by ACC.

What I'm driving at is we have to get this elevated away from being just a biker-bitch. After all, who cares about bikers other than bikers?

So here it is again.

Registered Road Users are the ONLY group who pay a TARGETED LEVY? WHY?

Because we can be easily identified.

Let's forget the whose-next idea and concentrate on whose being done right now, and of those, upon whom can we prevail to support us in a campaign to have all ACC levies removed from rego and fuel and have it set against the individual ONLY.

Maybe, next time we move on Parliament, we attract 5,000 bikers, two thousand truckers and a whole gaggle of taxis, ambulances, Couriers, et al.

You see! We are all being stung for no equitable reason.

All we road users take less than 10% of the ACC payouts, yet WE get to pay extra.

WHY?

NO! Resisting the increases is not the game. Having ACC levies removed from all road users and from fuel IS THE GAME.

But the car-park infestation idea can be used. What, for example, would the public make of two hundred Couriers, a few ambulances, two hundred Taxis, and the rest bikers, taking over the car-park of any Westfield mall?

We get truckers to front up and block the access roads.

But it wouldn't be just bikers. AND THAT IS the biggie. We have to get other registered road users involved and protesting.

That night, on TV, about the only source of info for the average cager, they get to see why they were denied access to their favourite money-wasting spot, and then get told that this is for them too.

Cagers unite! Save yourselves heaps of money by forcing the government to drop targeted ACC levies on registration and fuel, and make the beggers divide ACC equally amongst all New Zealanders......Meanwhile, stop ACC paying rape victims, suicide victim families, $10,000 titanium legs for savage murderers, etc. Rape, suicide, and getting your leg shot off are NOT accidents!

The arsehole killed an innocent, then got shot by police (remarkable in as much as the police can't shoot shit in a barrel....remember the pit-bull. Nine shots (the Glock had no more) and still the dog roamed free in a fenced residential section?)..... in the leg. They amputated (there's a cost).

We just paid $10k for this arsehole's titanium leg! That's 42 current biker ACC levies to give this shit-head a titanium leg. Not allowed to give him a titanium bullet. Oh no, that's right against the Geneva Convention, or some fucking convention.

We have to get serious and organised

Unless, of course, you'd prefer to have you kid charged ACC for playing a sport. That'll be next on the agenda. To play a sport you'll have to be a registered member of a club. And a part of that rego will be ACC.

And so, let's attack to soft underbelly of those who feel immune from our plight.

Fill up one Westfield car-park, for just one day, with non-shoppers.

The cagers would go hysterical. Westfield management would have a melt-down. An entire day's trading down the drain.

Maybe we could then ask Westfield to help us launch a media campaign, like supply the bucks. Or we could come back next week with a similar request.

Of course they will arrange some level of security for next week...and the week after...and the week after that, till the cost and the worry got the better of them, then we go again.
You see the point? Engage the masses to get our solution.

I just realised the battle cry. ONE TAX-PAYING PERSON. ONE ACC LEVY.END OF STORY.

StoneY

18th November 2009, 18:27

being one of 10,00 people shouting

BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT

worked for me!!!

Credit where its due, Bren was the one who started it

He shouted Bullshit to Nicky, and it just went OFF!!!!
And I actually saw it happen, and it went CROWD wide before the third repeat, it was fucking AWESOME!

All the Labour MPs joined in too!!!!!!!!!
Ill vote Red till they consign my tired bones to the crematorium

Mom

18th November 2009, 18:40

Registered Road Users are the ONLY group who pay a TARGETED LEVY? WHY?

Actually, road users are not the only ones paying a targetted levy. Employers have been doing this for years. Your industry is assessed on its perceived risk and levied accordingly.

This will become bigger than the bikers, give it time! Hells teeth this is the first day of our campaign. The bikeoi was a warning shot across the bows of this government. We have started this campaign, others will join us. Let us draw breath and think!

jafar

18th November 2009, 22:32

Actually, road users are not the only ones paying a targetted levy. Employers have been doing this for years. Your industry is assessed on its perceived risk and levied accordingly.

This will become bigger than the bikers, give it time! Hells teeth this is the first day of our campaign. The bikeoi was a warning shot across the bows of this government. We have started this campaign, others will join us. Let us draw breath and think!

Some employers are allowed to opt out of ACC & pay insurance instead....why can't we have that option?

StoneY

18th November 2009, 22:51

Some employers are allowed to opt out of ACC & pay insurance instead....why can't we have that option?

Bah humbug Was tried in 97-99 and EPIC FAIL
Costs soared, people were written off exempt from medical record of prior injuries (acc dont care if its pre existing)

Wake the fuck up we have paradise, injury cover wise why dismantle it to PAY MORE FOR LESS COVER!

jafar

18th November 2009, 23:09

Bah humbug Was tried in 97-99 and EPIC FAIL
Costs soared, people were written off exempt from medical record of prior injuries (acc dont care if its pre existing)

Wake the fuck up we have paradise, injury cover wise why dismantle it to PAY MORE FOR LESS COVER!

It wasn't an epic fail by any means, I paid less & got more cover from the insurer I used. The only reason it was stopped was because the ACC went crying to the Gibbermint of the day & claimed they would be bankrupt if they didn't get the commercial business back. That is why it was changed back to a MONOPOLY .......
Any business that has a monopoly doesn't need to look for ways to make itself more streamlined or profitable, competition makes them do that.
If ACC was opened up to competition & we had choices of WHO we gave our personal accident business to we would be getting as better deal than a 200% increase & being told to like it or lump it.
If you had a poor history then you would pay more, just like any other insurance!!

StoneY

18th November 2009, 23:19

And that 'poor history' included any injury that you were not responsible for

If you were victim of a crash, once you 'healed' by the private sectors standards, that part of you was no longer covered!!!
Wake up, I had to go private back then too as I was self employed, and I have even had employee's as well, privatizations first round was epic fuckin fail

Monopoly my ass, world first man and why would Barrack Obama hold it so high he wants to copy it ?????t.......

To stop endless LITIGATION

scissorhands

18th November 2009, 23:37

..... and why would Barrack Obama hold it so high he wants to copy it ?????t.......

To stop endless LITIGATION

Thats what they say in the media....

J K and B O are Harvard mates and cut from the same cloth, I suspect something more sinister in store for Joe Q

Mrs Busa Pete

19th November 2009, 05:47

being one of 10,00 people shouting

BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT

worked for me!!!

Yep with you in this one gunny as it's already there so to speak and anyone that was in Wellinton will know it.

Juzz976

19th November 2009, 08:50

So are we meeting in Mission Bay or is it just somewhere around CBD?
or just anywhere as long as you're taking up a carpark?
I'm confused

Pixie

19th November 2009, 09:41

That's gay...

what's wrong with SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

j/k...

I'm spartarcus...

Mom

19th November 2009, 11:19

So are we meeting in Mission Bay or is it just somewhere around CBD?
or just anywhere as long as you're taking up a carpark?
I'm confused

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=112831

MISSION BAY!!!

Tink

19th November 2009, 20:18

Me likes that, can I get the kids in chorus... still seriously thinking of coming in car, will park around the corner up the road and around a bit... if the kids winge about the walk, I will tell them why we are doing it.... Ya see santa is coming!!!!

Another thought, if anyone complains about the bikes, I can see scary/lovely bikers stepping up to the plate... I am happy tho, to say... "I walked here, why can't you, bikers have rights blah blah... "

mattyt

19th November 2009, 21:46

If you own a CBR - "I RIDE HONDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"

If your battery is dead or carbies are flooded - "IT WON'T STARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"

HAHA awesome - lovit.

MentalFacility

19th November 2009, 22:55

Sux bad. Ill be there, but I have no licence, so just me and no bike(

scissorhands

20th November 2009, 00:50

I am scooter
Hear me roar
In numbers too big
To ignore

SteveNZ

20th November 2009, 06:37

WHAT DO WE WANT?

EQUITY!

WHEN DO WE WANT IT?

NOW!

ACC!

WE WONT PAY!

WOODHOUSE!

NO FAULT!

Repeat until voice runs out!

So we're all 20-something students then?

People do realise that they're putting the levies up for cars as well don't they!?

Mom

20th November 2009, 06:42

So we're all 20-something students then?

People do realise that they're putting the levies up for cars as well don't they!?

I am not a twenty something student, and I am well aware of what is going on. Come along on Sunday and hear my speech, it is all about educating Joe Public about what is going on.

I see you live a little far for a Sunday brunch in Mission Bay, no doubt someone will record it, I will post it in my blog too.

Camsta

20th November 2009, 11:10

a c c hikes
tax the users
not our bikes

2nd2last1

20th November 2009, 19:48

So we're all 20-something students then?

People do realise that they're putting the levies up for cars as well don't they!?

lmao!!! 30 bux increse for a car!!! 500 bux for a motorbike???:weep: hhrrrrmmmm... a car increse is hardly worth mentioning mate

check this... it gave me a few giggles!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulYTA_dvg6s&feature=related

wysper

20th November 2009, 20:57

Some employers are allowed to opt out of ACC & pay insurance instead....why can't we have that option?

I suspect that is the whole idea. An end to ACC. This has quite big ramifications for all New Zealanders.

Tink

21st November 2009, 18:11

lmao!!! 30 bux increse for a car!!! 500 bux for a motorbike???:weep: hhrrrrmmmm... a car increse is hardly worth mentioning mate

check this... it gave me a few giggles!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulYTA_dvg6s&feature=related

BRILLIANT, sadly these guys are more than likely going to die by the bomb than the bike!

idleidolidyll

21st November 2009, 18:17

About a dozen bikes protested John Key in Whangamata today.

At one point his speech was drowned out by revving motorcycles.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1129527365#post1129527365

The media were there but pretended we don't exist again: no respect from either TV3 or TVNZ

See you tomorrow...............

Mom

21st November 2009, 18:21

See you tomorrow...............

I am really looking forward to tomorrow, lets hope my plans are not thwarted by a few hot heads in the crowd. Not that I am dissing said hot heads mind you, I have simply chosen a different path. I respect your path, I trust you respect mine!

It is going to be GREAT!

modboy

21st November 2009, 18:34

Good luck for tomorrow Mom, and everyone else going - would have been well up for it but it's a bit of a long ride for me.

Looking for something coming up in Welly soon.

idleidolidyll

21st November 2009, 18:36

I don't think there will be any disruption of your event Mom; that would be a dumb thing to do.

I hope it all goes off really well

idleidolidyll

22nd November 2009, 11:43

Couple of pics from today

idleidolidyll

22nd November 2009, 12:08

Lets not forget those who take us seriously:

Prime News, Radio NZ and the NZ Herald

thanks for being there.

colonel

22nd November 2009, 12:14

well done MOM and everyone who showed up. only 5 of us from the north but better than none:2thumbsup

daddycool651

28th November 2009, 22:08

Couple of pics from today

Great Pics there idleidolidyll , even tho I only ride on the dirt , I took great interest in this gathering coz of the way you wanted to get your message across ( one bike one parking space, forcing you to drive cars would mean more congestion aswel ) ... good on you guys and gals of the road:clap: , these pictures say a thousand words ... keep it up ... you've got support from this truck driving dirt biker :niceone:

@mmie

3rd December 2009, 17:17

Hey all,
I'm trying to track down some hard stats about all this acc bull shit that is going on. (BTW - really enjoyed the wellington protest ride it was awesome to see so many out supporting it!)
Anyway, I'm a graphic design student and have to desgin an annual report as part of my degree, I've decided to do acc but thought that it would be a better idea to take the whole report from a different slant and simply focus on the Motor vehicle account and most specifically motorcycles.
So what I'm after is any hard facts that people have managed to get that I can use to help create tables, graphs and pie charts etc for this annual report proposal. Figures like how many motorcycle users are actuallly road riders. How many accidents are caused by bikes, and other usefull information like that
I figured that some of the guys who meet with Nick Smith could be on KB and I would be keen to see what info you guys have.
You can either post here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=114110) or feel free to PM me.
Cheers
Ammie

Mom

3rd December 2009, 17:46

Hey all,

Cheers
Ammie

Hi Ammie

Have a hunt through here

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=109890

Dont forget to share what you are doing with us too please.

@mmie

4th December 2009, 04:23

Hi Ammie

Have a hunt through here

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=109890

Dont forget to share what you are doing with us too please.

Cheers for that, the assignment is due end of next week so I should have something to show by then.

DOWN WITH ACC

MSTRS

4th December 2009, 07:30

Cheers for that, the assignment is due end of next week so I should have something to show by then.

DOWN WITH ACC

Bugger off. We don't want ACC gone. We want it in the form it was started under. Fair and equitable for all NZers.
It is the BULLSHIT and political agenda that we want gone.

@mmie

4th December 2009, 09:39

Oh don't get me wrong, i dont really want to see acc go but look at it this way, between my partner and i we have three bikes, two cars & two dirt bikes (and i know there are people out there with way more then us), assuming the levys when up as high as they are suggesting for the bikes and up for the cars it would be cheaper for us to get personal accident insurance rather than pay the extra levys because if acc was gone then our registrations would be peanuts and petrol would go down as well.