How to do 1/2 a Two smoker treatment to a Gixxer [Archive]

Zapf

24th April 2005, 19:04

Mate TS..... I might need your experties!

Does anyone have a workshop manual (online) for a 04/05 Gixxer 600/750?

Thanks

rest of you can guess....

front let go on a drop of oil on damp road. low side at around 70~80kmh.... knees down elbow up hand over the face... landed and elbowed my myself in the ribs hence no marks on the leathers in the chest.. (ouch) so decide to do a tumble dry... so now I have a nice bruise coming out from my upper right leg.. :crybaby:

well that is my conclusion of what happened so far..

enigma51

24th April 2005, 19:06

I can lend you my hard copy if you want

John

24th April 2005, 19:10

Mate TS..... I might need your experties!

Does anyone have a workshop manual (online) for a 04/05 Gixxer 600/750?

Thanks

rest of you can guess....

Bloody hell :( your having a bad streak hope you fix her up good'n - Got any more pictures?

justsomeguy

24th April 2005, 19:25

Can't believe how dry that road looks. Compared to what it looked like in real life.

Ghost Lemur

24th April 2005, 19:55

ZOMG :eek5:

More details and pics.

On the manual front, send WT a pm. I'm sure he'll be able to hook you up. May even be able to help on the parts/contacts front.

Sensei

24th April 2005, 20:32

By the look's abit to fast?? & abit to much sliding . & abit much bugger that's going to Cost

StoneChucker

24th April 2005, 20:49

By the look's abit to fast?? & abit to much sliding . & abit much bugger that's going to Cost
Thanks, good to have the opinion of a trained serious crash investigation unit officer :shifty: :msn-wink: :msn-wink:

My little tarmac excursion left a scrape of at least that length, and I was only going 50 km/h, or thereabouts...

Bad luck Zapf, hope you're not too sore, and get the bike back to new soon ey? They can be as good as new, take my word for it :niceone:

Sensei

24th April 2005, 21:09

They can be as good as new, take my word for it :niceone:[/QUOTE]

They may look it but Nothing is as good as undropped . Lowsided my 1100R
on Race slick's leaving my House one day . All ways felt like it pulled to that side till I dropped it on the other side in the shed trying to get it on to a bike stand to clean the chain . Stupidly thought Now it's even & talked myself into thinking it was straight again . I hate that Bloody mind can do silly thing's

Coyote

24th April 2005, 21:12

Bugger, know how you feel now mate, see what I have to fix in the link in my sig

StoneChucker

24th April 2005, 22:00

They may look it but Nothing is as good as undropped . Lowsided my 1100R
on Race slick's leaving my House one day . All ways felt like it pulled to that side till I dropped it on the other side in the shed trying to get it on to a bike stand to clean the chain . Stupidly thought Now it's even & talked myself into thinking it was straight again . I hate that Bloody mind can do silly thing's

Mate, I was taking the piss. But, they can be, it all depends on the bin. I had everything replaced, so it feels like new, because it IS new :cool:

Now, my last Mountain Bike (push bike) was a different story. I hit a large rock oneday, went head over the front, landed on my head and bike hit the deck hard. Felt bent ever since then :confused:

Zapf

24th April 2005, 22:01

thanks guys.... yes I was on the fast side for that corner... it was damp. and it was a right hand off camber dip I should have knowen better as I know about that corner and yet I binned.... I think i was doing around 70~80kmh

later JSG pointed out at the start of my skid marks there was a drop of oil... (great)!

so now I have a battered ego, sore ribs... (how do I tell if its just a bruise? I can inhale and exhale deeply and not be sore, just the odd pook and bending fowards triggers it)

a not so new anymore 750.... :( items damaged includes front fairing, crash bung (saved a lot of the side fairing), rear fairing, dented muffler, and broken rear brake lever.

anyone want to guess why the front brake and clutch lever feels a bit low (eg. bent downwards)? or is it just my mind? as I broke the right hand support (metal) for the mirror (under the fairing and blade) and the brake resoivor mount was bend down. could it just be the levers taken a good knock or something else?

as for damage to me, I have a small graze to my elbow where I landed. the leathers did a great job saving me... a special mention to the external plastic elbow armor. finally got my knee scrapers worned in the hard way. and there is a small cut (pinky sized) thru my leathers on the lower back... I would hate to guess what it was that cut thru the leathers..

John

24th April 2005, 22:09

so now I have a battered ego, sore ribs... (how do I tell if its just a bruise? I can inhale and exhale deeply and not be sore, just the odd pook and bending fowards triggers it)

Bugger I have the exact same thing I did my ribs in playing rugby and screwed them up again in a crash, You may have cracked one or two when they break DAMN do you know about it!
I think its worse with cracked ribs as they are hard to heal because you constantly keep cracking them, check yourself up so that ACC will cover any further problems!

Keep safe and sorry about the bin :(

Sensei

24th April 2005, 22:19

[QUOTE]Mate, I was taking the piss.

Yea I was only telling what I thought to We're even then :killingme

StoneChucker

24th April 2005, 22:25

Yea I was only telling what I thought to We're even then :killingme
You ride a Gixxer, we'll never be even :shifty:

justsomeguy

24th April 2005, 22:30

Hi Felix,

Tell me tomorrow how you're feeling. I guess you're more sore thinking about your new toy than you are physically in pain.

It was weird seeing you fall as you fell and landed and rolled exactly as I did about 23 hours ago......

Sorry mate

Lets hope nothing on you or in you is broken, please do see a doc if you feel sore when you wake tomorrow.

....and take that bloody ugly weird photo out of there will ya:shifty:

justsomeguy

24th April 2005, 22:36

Zapf

24th April 2005, 22:47

It's interesting to note that after the crash your bike and your body travelled pretty much in a straight line tangent to the corner despite you taking the corner.

And you're right we were riding pretty fast for the conditions...... now we know huh?? :bash:

Less lean angle and more hanging off.....:whistle:

yea.. you see from this photo. I would have been on the outside of the corner where that car is and then start to tip in. and then I nicely ran over the oil patch while tiping in and then finished of the landing nicely....

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=9641

Sensei

24th April 2005, 22:48

[QUOTE=StoneChucker]You ride a Gixxer, we'll never be even

Hey I'm Mature enough to slow down & wait for ya :killingme

Sensei

24th April 2005, 22:53

From ya pic I would have been cutting the Apex from the back of the car to half way between the last white line & the one in front given that this is a vanishing apex corner

cammo

24th April 2005, 22:53

woow, dude didnt that bike has less then 1000ks on it!!! feel sooo sorry for you. hope you feel well soon!!!

Zed

24th April 2005, 22:58

...front let go on a drop of oil on damp road. low side at around 70~80kmh.... knees down elbow up hand over the face... landed and elbowed my myself in the ribs hence no marks on the leathers in the chest.. (ouch) so decide to do a tumble dry... so now I have a nice bruise coming out from my upper right leg.. :crybaby:

well that is my conclusion of what happened so far..That sucks Zapf, really sorry to hear it. Hope you're not in too much pain and that you & your 'newish' bike recover quickley!

Happens to the best of us mate! :cool:

justsomeguy

24th April 2005, 23:08

From ya pic I would have been cutting the Apex from the back of the car to half way between the last white line

Tui brewing since 18something.

justsomeguy

24th April 2005, 23:19

Happens to the best of us mate! :cool:

http://image.pathfinder.com/time/europe/magazine/2002/0729/rossi.jpg

http://www.michelin.co.jp/compet/wgp/2003_9/images/ROSSI_CRASH1.jpg

Sensei

24th April 2005, 23:34

Cheers Dude Heaps have said that till they see me in Action .Will buy ya one to if we ever meet :Punk: :drinknsin

Teflon

25th April 2005, 07:26

Hard to tell from looking at your photos, but it looks like you took the wrong line into the corner.

To me it looks like a 100+ corner.

Two Smoker

25th April 2005, 08:57

HA, yourve got a very long way to get to my standard!!! But seriously, bad luck about the bin Zapf... Ive got a pdf. on CD of the manual for the gixxer 600/750...

If you dont want to claim insurance, i recommend Anything Plastic Welders, GREAT SERVICE and do a mint job!!!

Give us a yell if you need to know anything about getting parts, and what they cost...

FEINT

25th April 2005, 09:12

Sorry to hear about the bin Felix. I hope all is well and your bike can be fixed soon! Glad that you weren't majorly hurt in the fall itself.

erik

25th April 2005, 10:16

Sucks about the bin, especially since it's such a new bike.
At least it looks like you picked a reasonably good corner to do it on though, with decent run off etc.
What road was it on?

Zapf

25th April 2005, 10:36

erik,
its the road out to Piha. and have done the road over 100 times... guerrrr.

teflon,
you could be right.... however it is an off camber corner, correct me if I am wrong, but I was trying to avoid as much of the off camber as possible...

thanks TS,
how can I get a copy off you? I work in Town Quay street if you are ever on your way to colemans :P I can make a copy there.

I will be avoiding insurance again... thanks re plastic welder.... any idea if the "COWLING UPPER BRACE" can be welded? it broke off on the right hand side just before the mounting for the mirror. Know of any good painters?

Does anyone have a spare right hand frame slider? as I'll have to replace mine, will pay $ of course.

Rear Brake level, anyone know of any reasonable after market item out there? as a OEM one will cost over $100. thanks.

justsomeguy

25th April 2005, 10:49

Good Morning Zapf

How's it all feeling today?? Ribs ok?? Whats this bruise on your leg you're talking about?? How did you get that??

Mr Skid

25th April 2005, 10:51

Shit Zapf, if you wanted some scrubbed in sliders a bit of sandpaper would have sufficed.

Sorry to hear about the gixx, sounds like you've only brusied your ribs, rather than breaking any. I've had similar symptoms and nothing was broken.

I'm not suprised Scenic Drive has bitten again, it's a nasty bit of goods.

FzerozeroT

25th April 2005, 10:56

So I take it you havn't had time to use the suspension setup guide that you "borrowed" :Pokey: seriously though, that sucks.

Silage

25th April 2005, 11:01

Sorry to hear of the bin Zapf. Your bike looked soooo good (before !!) I hope you can get it back to good shape.

2_SL0

25th April 2005, 11:16

bummer dude, the ribs I think are bruised. The ego a large dent, the leathers, scrubbed in nicely. The bike :crybaby: but fixable as a guess. Shit happens.
At least your in one piece.

Riff Raff

25th April 2005, 12:32

Two Smoker

25th April 2005, 13:43

thanks TS,
how can I get a copy off you? I work in Town Quay street if you are ever on your way to colemans :P I can make a copy there.

I will be avoiding insurance again... thanks re plastic welder.... any idea if the "COWLING UPPER BRACE" can be welded? it broke off on the right hand side just before the mounting for the mirror. Know of any good painters?

Does anyone have a spare right hand frame slider? as I'll have to replace mine, will pay $ of course.

Rear Brake level, anyone know of any reasonable after market item out there? as a OEM one will cost over $100. thanks.

I can leave a Copy at Colemans for you..

Plastic welder does painting too... $600 to get my tail, mudgaurd and top fairing painted INCLUDING plastic welding and prep!!! That was at Anything Plastic by the way... 6B Newark Place in East Tamaki...

Im about to get my upper cowling brace wleded soon as well... should be able to weld it... Then im going to get mine powdercoated... Otherwise im going to get a trick stainless steel one from the UK...

How did the frame sliders hold up???

ONLY $100!!!??? Thats cheap as chips, CBR1100XX cost $247 (just for the lever...)

justsomeguy

25th April 2005, 14:00

h buggery buggrit. Funnily enuff after my bin yesterday I was asked if I was going to do a Zapf and trade up to a Gixxer after SV versus gravel. Perhaps I'll wait a while before following in your footsteps!!!

Whaaaaaaaaaattttttttt you binned tooo??????????????

That makes it - You, Zapf, k14 and me over the weekend some sort of record is it??

How did the road rise up and hit you??

Milky

25th April 2005, 14:07

erik,
its the road out to Piha. and have done the road over 100 times... guerrrr.

Ah... I thought it looked rather familiar. Scenic Drive/general Waitaks are not a favourite of mine for riding quickly. Great for cruising on though.

Best of luck getting things back together. Try ebay for parts if you havent already. Although it is a little more risky than getting OEM from a shop, it is much cheaper.

Ghost Lemur

25th April 2005, 17:13

Whaaaaaaaaaattttttttt you binned tooo??????????????

That makes it - You, Zapf, k14 and me over the weekend some sort of record is it??

How did the road rise up and hit you??

K14? Must have missed that thread.

*goes searching*

Riff Raff

25th April 2005, 17:30

Whaaaaaaaaaattttttttt you binned tooo??????????????

That makes it - You, Zapf, k14 and me over the weekend some sort of record is it??

How did the road rise up and hit you??
My off is carefully hidden in the Well Done Quasi thread!
Not good that so many of us had offs - which one of us pissed off the biker god?

gav

25th April 2005, 18:36

Yeah, but K14 was on the race track :niceone: Just a thought though, you said you found a spot of oil where your skid marks started, that oil wouldnt have sent you down, you'd need to look say 20 metres before hand, travelling at speed the bike will still travel some distance before it actually hits the tarmac wont it, more likely the oil could be your oil from your bike? check you havent cracked a case cover or something.

justsomeguy

25th April 2005, 18:44

justsomeguy

25th April 2005, 18:47

My off is carefully hidden in the Well Done Quasi thread!
Not good that so many of us had offs - which one of us pissed off the biker god?

Heard what happened, so sorry it happened , how are you feeling now girlie??

:no: shitty weekend...... with all the bloody weather. Today was the best and I had to work.... grrrrr:mad:

Two Smoker

25th April 2005, 19:00

Heard what happened, so sorry it happened , how are you feeling now girlie??

:no: shitty weekend...... with all the bloody weather. Today was the best and I had to work.... grrrrr:mad:

I seem to be the only one that had a good weekend :(

dangerous

25th April 2005, 19:17

More details and pics.

K14? Must have missed that thread.
*goes searching*
Your a blood thirsty bugger arnt ya :yes:

Zapf.... and all you others, sorry bout the bins aye, but in all cases it seems that it could have been a shit load worse..... and for some this w/e it was. fix em up guys and get back on the rd. :ride:

Quasievil

25th April 2005, 20:02

From what I saw and since I was the only eye witness riding a few meters behind you'll will have to take my word for it:

Horribly slippy, wet, smooth road + seriously off-camber corner + too much lean angle = :thud:

The pics were taken well after the bin. The road was really :mad: before. It's a wonder that nothing major happened and we were really lucky that he came off where he did instead on on Scenic Drive where you either go smack into a mountain or down off the cliff.............

Don't think the oil caused the spill, the road was slippery enough without it.

(not a Dig at you Zaph)
Ive heard the oil causes a few accidents, I always wondered how that comment can be made so definately when a crash was more likely caused by rider behaviour not "the illusive oil", I think oil is a easy out, take it like a man and admit you fucked up.
I did ,I fucked up on Sunday !!!
I was at 100 kmph between Tauramanui and Kiratau junction it was cold and had been raining, the sun came out and we were into dry roads, so I picked the pace up to about 140 kms I saw a 75km corner and slowed to about 120 and turned into the corner and FUCK !!!!!! the corner was wet and Glassy !!!!!

I had a serious OH FUCK moment. I rode through it and came out the other side and gave myself a serious bollocking !!!!!
WT was behind me ( I was directing) I was being a silly pumped up dickhead for a moment and it could have been easily a serious crash.
Point is, I think if you fuck up say it like it is, that way we can learn from it.
I dont think its right to put the fear of the "illusive oil" into the heads of other bikers, cause its rarely there.

Zapf Im glad your okay mate and I hope its not to long before youre back on the road.

If anyone is wondering why Im being so serious I know of about 5 people who have come of this weekend and I really think its fucken lucky no one is seriously hurt. Im a bit sobered up about it all and I think we should reflect abit and take a reality check about what we do out on the roads.

I never said I was a saint either.

Be safe friends !!!!!:niceone:

dangerous

25th April 2005, 20:13

(not a Dig at you Zaph)
Ive heard the oil causes a few accidents, I always wondered how that comment can be made so definately when a crash was more likely caused by rider behaviour not "the illusive oil", I think oil is a easy out, take it like a man and admit you fucked up.
I did ,I fucked up on Sunday !!!
I was at 100 kmph between Tauramanui and Kiratau junction it was cold and had been raining, the sun came out and we were into dry roads, so I picked the pace up to about 140 kms I saw a 75km corner and slowed to about 120 and turned into the corner and FUCK !!!!!! the corner was wet and Glassy !!!!!

I had a serious OH FUCK moment. I rode through it and came out the other side and gave myself a serious bollocking !!!!!
WT was behind me ( I was directing) I was being a silly pumped up dickhead for a moment and it could have been easily a serious crash.
Point is, I think if you fuck up say it like it is, that way we can learn from it.
I dont think its right to put the fear of the "illusive oil" into the heads of other bikers, cause its rarely there.

Zapf Im glad your okay mate and I hope its not to long before youre back on the road.

If anyone is wondering why Im being so serious I know of about 5 people who have come of this weekend and I really think its fucken lucky no one is seriously hurt. Im a bit sobered up about it all and I think we should reflect abit and take a reality check about what we do out on the roads.

I never said I was a saint either.

Be safe friends !!!!!:niceone:
Mate..... well said, agree all the way but hey tell me................. did WT have the balls too follow you around that corner or did he back it up a bit :niceone:

ps: k14 arsed of twice in the w/e..... lad cant even handle a 125 (permission given to post that)

Quasievil

25th April 2005, 20:31

Mate..... well said, agree all the way but hey tell me................. did WT have the balls too follow you around that corner or did he back it up a bit :niceone:

ps: k14 assed of twice in the w/e..... lad cant even handle a 125 (permision given to post that)

I dont know what WT did, I spoke to him about it and he didnt have the issue I did, but he may have read the corner better than me, and if not he is a better rider than me anyway.

Zapf

25th April 2005, 22:40

So I take it you havn't had time to use the suspension setup guide that you "borrowed" :Pokey: seriously though, that sucks.

did you not got your setup guide back? I didn't actually borrowed it.... not sure who did.... sorry....

Zapf

25th April 2005, 22:45

h buggery buggrit. Funnily enuff after my bin yesterday I was asked if I was going to do a Zapf and trade up to a Gixxer after SV versus gravel. Perhaps I'll wait a while before following in your footsteps!!!

lol RR.... yea its ill adviced to follow the footsteps of a black cat... Quote "Felix the Cat" :P

Zapf

25th April 2005, 22:55

(not a Dig at you Zaph)
Ive heard the oil causes a few accidents, I always wondered how that comment can be made so definately when a crash was more likely caused by rider behaviour not "the illusive oil", I think oil is a easy out, take it like a man and admit you fucked up.
I did ,I fucked up on Sunday !!!
I was at 100 kmph between Tauramanui and Kiratau junction it was cold and had been raining, the sun came out and we were into dry roads, so I picked the pace up to about 140 kms I saw a 75km corner and slowed to about 120 and turned into the corner and FUCK !!!!!! the corner was wet and Glassy !!!!!

I had a serious OH FUCK moment. I rode through it and came out the other side and gave myself a serious bollocking !!!!!
WT was behind me ( I was directing) I was being a silly pumped up dickhead for a moment and it could have been easily a serious crash.
Point is, I think if you fuck up say it like it is, that way we can learn from it.
I dont think its right to put the fear of the "illusive oil" into the heads of other bikers, cause its rarely there.

Zapf Im glad your okay mate and I hope its not to long before youre back on the road.

If anyone is wondering why Im being so serious I know of about 5 people who have come of this weekend and I really think its fucken lucky no one is seriously hurt. Im a bit sobered up about it all and I think we should reflect abit and take a reality check about what we do out on the roads.

I never said I was a saint either.

Be safe friends !!!!!:niceone:

thanks Quasi, I do need some sense spanked into me. I was too confident in the ability of myself and my bike...

thankyou for the reminder and I really do apperciate it. everyone please give me a bollocking next time when you see me...

Zapf

25th April 2005, 23:03

I can leave a Copy at Colemans for you..

Plastic welder does painting too... $600 to get my tail, mudgaurd and top fairing painted INCLUDING plastic welding and prep!!! That was at Anything Plastic by the way... 6B Newark Place in East Tamaki...

Im about to get my upper cowling brace wleded soon as well... should be able to weld it... Then im going to get mine powdercoated... Otherwise im going to get a trick stainless steel one from the UK...

How did the frame sliders hold up???

ONLY $100!!!??? Thats cheap as chips, CBR1100XX cost $247 (just for the lever...)

ok thanks. I am having trouble taking the front fairing off and don't know how to take the rear one off... think I might give Kerry a call as I hear he has done some plastic welding in the past?

did you have to disassemble the entire front end to get the cowling brace out? as I might just glue / kennit (spelling) it. $$$ is not exactly plentyful after buying the bike...

why powdercoat it? did it need to be sanded back to have it welded?

and are you leaving the fairings plain? or are you getting stickers for it?

Mr Skid

25th April 2005, 23:25

ok thanks. I am having trouble taking the front fairing off and don't know how to take the rear one off...
I've got a crowbar here that might do the job. Leave the gixxer outside work and I'll sort her out for ya. :niceone:

Zapf

25th April 2005, 23:51

I've got a crowbar here that might do the job. Leave the gixxer outside work and I'll sort her out for ya. :niceone:

:no: :crybaby:

anyone has tips for polishing Lexen / PanLite... its what the blade (screen) is made of right? its got some deep scratches to polish out.... would brasso do the job?

justsomeguy

25th April 2005, 23:56

I've got a crowbar here that might do the job. Leave the gixxer outside work and I'll sort her out for ya. :niceone:

somethings never change:killingme :killingme :killingme

paparazzi, skid, puff doodley whatever you're calling yourself..........:laugh: :whistle:

justsomeguy

25th April 2005, 23:58

thanks Quasi, I do need some sense spanked into me. I was too confident in the ability of myself and my bike...

thankyou for the reminder and I really do apperciate it. everyone please give me a bollocking next time when you see me...

Come on now........ that road was ridiculous and speed was involved.....

Let bygones be bygones huh! Have a quiet drink and relax. You only got some wee touch ups to do and that bike will be back to new in no time!!!

Mr Skid

26th April 2005, 01:41

:no: :crybaby:

anyone has tips for polishing Lexen / PanLite... its what the blade (screen) is made of right? its got some deep scratches to polish out.... would brasso do the job?
Sounds like hard work. Might be a good excuse to visit Mt Eden for one of their bling miracle unbreakable blades that everybody raves about..

750Y

26th April 2005, 06:49

...Whats this bruise on your leg you're talking about?? How did you get that??

beating himself up! 8-)
glad you're ok man..

Two Smoker

26th April 2005, 07:02

did you have to disassemble the entire front end to get the cowling brace out? as I might just glue / kennit (spelling) it. $$$ is not exactly plentyful after buying the bike...

why powdercoat it? did it need to be sanded back to have it welded?

and are you leaving the fairings plain? or are you getting stickers for it?

I disassembled my entire front end, because my entire front end was fucked...

Im going to powdercoat it to cover up the welds...

Ive bought stickers for my fairings... they are reasonably priced...