Maybe we are getting somewhere.

[MSTRS]

Finally. Some unbiased (sic) press with a bit of impact.
Keep at it, guys. Let this be a beach-head.

[Mom]

Finally. Some unbiased (sic) press with a bit of impact.
Keep at it, guys. Let this be a beach-head.

My speech on Sunday will add fuel to that particular fire for sure :yes:

[klingon]

WOW! What a brilliant letter from J. Baine! She must be a genius! :D

WHat newspaper is that out of, MSTRS? And what date?

[grusomhat]

It's from the Hawkes Bay Today (todays)

[mashman]

Why wasn't that on the front page of every newspaper in the country. Beautiful.

[StoneY]

GOOD SHIT GOOD SHIT GOOD SHIT

You all know the tune :)

[riffer]

WOW! What a brilliant letter from J. Baine! She must be a genius! :D


And a bit of a babe too, I heard...

onya 'tart.

[MSTRS]

WOW! What a brilliant letter from J. Baine! She must be a genius! :D
The internally plumbed J.Baine says that the externally plumbed J.Baine is due the credit. You are forgiven your confusion. :whistle:


It's from the Hawkes Bay Today (todays)
Yep. Not normally known for being so 'nice' to us.

Why wasn't that on the front page of every newspaper in the country. Beautiful.
Indeed. Could someone cleverer than I see to it. Thanks.

[chanceyy]

Well done that J Baine :clap: :hug: nice peice :yes:

[klingon]

The internally plumbed J.Baine says that the externally plumbed J.Baine is due the credit. You are forgiven your confusion. :whistle:
...


... The police directing and controlling at intersections did a fabulous job. ...

Since when did you ever use the word "fabulous?"

I reckon it was the other J Baine. :yes:

[yungatart]

Since when did you ever use the word "fabulous?"

I reckon it was the other J Baine. :yes:

What can I say...he writes my speeches...maybe I write his letters....but not that one

[Ronin]

That is o for fantastic.

[Pedrostt500]

Well Said J Baine, We need a version of that letter in every News Paper in the country.

[MSTRS]

I've written 3 letters to the local paper, and had them published. One of them was more or less an article, with a photo. I've sent 2 txts to ed, and so has YT, and had them published. YT got one article printed about the issue prior to Tuesday's Bikeoi. I organised a protest ride to a local MP. YT organised for media and photographer presence on both 14/11 and 17/11 (they never turned up). I've got a date organised for a few of us to 'meet' with Phil Goff locally. I spent days collating info, and turning it into an address, which YT presented in Hastings. The same address was delivered by Mom in Auckland and was taken to cabinet by Craig Foss. YT organised a Parking Protest, to put the issues in front of the public. YT has spent maybe 2 hours on the phone to various press/media, and been on National radio.
2 other HB riders put a plan together for the ride to Welly.
Nobody else AT ALL has done anything in Hawkes Bay, except maybe turn up.
We're tired of doing all the work.
Where to, from now?

[James Deuce]

Keep it up mate, you're doing a grand job (keep whipping him Janet, it's working!)

[Maha]

Two weekends in a row for us, I have been to four events/a night BRONZ meeting in Auckland/another night in Auckland making up vests etc for the Wellington event. It seems like every week we have been involved with the whole ACC thing in one form or another. Its been a pleasure so far, and no doubt we will continue. We will give it a rest for a week or two now, next weekend we are going to the beach. The question was asked a few times today ''so whens the next protest''? we did point out a couple of things that are on next weekend but we wont be around. On DEC' 5th there is something in the making and we will attend that. Theres alot of work that goes into organising a event, and we do get alot of support and are very greatfull of that. Its not that we are over it, just need to step away a bit for a week or two.

Dont give up John and Tart.

[yungatart]

Keep it up mate, you're doing a grand job (keep whipping him Janet, it's working!)

Trouble is, Jim, I feel very tired...I have put HUUUUGE amounts of time and energy in to this....pushing shit up hill against the naysayers, and those who actively discourage any thing...not that they put forward any counter ideas, just opposition.
I'm sorely tempted to say" Fuck you lot and the horse you rode in on" and leave it all alone.
Right now tho, I m off to have a wine..I reckon I've earned it!

[Mom]

Trouble is, Jim, I feel very tired...I have put HUUUUGE amounts of time and energy in to this....pushing shit up hill against the naysayers, and those who actively discourage any thing...not that they put forward any counter ideas, just opposition.
I'm sorely tempted to say" Fuck you lot and the horse you rode in on" and leave it all alone.
Right now tho, I m off to have a wine..I reckon I've earned it!

Tart, I am tired too. I am going to have a weekend off next weekend. Ruakaka is a place we go to to relax. No phone, no TV, no radio, no internet. A couple of days of seclusion and taking your shoes off and walking bare foot on the beach is good for the soul.

I am not finished by a long chalk. I can feel my next speech building as I type :laugh:

[Katman]

I'm sorely tempted to say" Fuck you lot and the horse you rode in on" and leave it all alone.


I know how you feel.

Luckily for you all I'm made of stronger stuff.

:msn-wink:

[James Deuce]

I came to the realisation at the BIKEOI last week that you can only do what you can do. The organisers were brilliant. They put it out there and had to let it go once it was underway. Such is the depth of feeling and the respect a big chunk of this "community" has for each other it went without a hitch.

I got royally pissed off when someone put a link to better quality videos in MY thread.

What a dick I is, but when you're knackered and working hard you lose perspective.

Take a day off and let things happen by themselves. It will be OK, I promise.

[short-circuit]

I know how you feel.

Luckily for you all I'm made of stronger stuff.

:msn-wink:

Yes...we truck on (for their own good)

[Ixion]

Yeah

It's a real important point for organisers to realise that no one person can do everything.You'll just burn out an die. This is too big for any one person. Even bits of it are too big.

Y' got to pick some good people , load 'em up, and fire them off. ANd trsut that it will all work out.

It's what management is about. Pick good people, give them the message, give them space and let them do their thing.

Take a break folks, and when y' get back , look around for some people to delegate to . You in your small corner, I in mine

(There was a man once did that, picked twelve good Bastards. Look where that ended up)

[Katman]

(There was a man once did that, picked twelve good Bastards. Look where that ended up)

With him nailed to a cross?

:wacko:

[James Deuce]

Wouldn't work for us. The cross would just end up looking like a wooden cardy.

[MSTRS]

With him nailed to a cross?

:wacko:

Or got a "Guilty" for his client...

[Katman]

Or got a "Guilty" for his client...

Amen.

:innocent:

[GOONR]

Tart, I am tired too. I am going to have a weekend off next weekend. Ruakaka is a place we go to to relax. No phone, no TV, no radio, no internet. A couple of days of seclusion and taking your shoes off and walking bare foot on the beach is good for the soul.

I am not finished by a long chalk. I can feel my next speech building as I type :laugh:

Fancy a few hundred friends joining ya :lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Mom]

Fancy a few hundred friends joining ya :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Just quietly.... NO :love:

[Maha]

''Take a break folks, and when y' get back , look around for some people to delegate to''

This is a very good point made.
We have had some awesome people just offer up (and sometimes not, they just go ahead and do) thier services. Without them, everything would be that much harded. Even just listening to thier opinions and option helps.

Having a small but committed group of 4-5-6 people around you, and being fully supportive of the task at hand, takes the weight.

[ready4whatever]

Anybody know where nick smith lives? if i still worked at the surveying firm i could find out where his house is, better yet each property that he owns. someone find out and post his address on a thread

[klingon]

I think it's really important for the whole 'cause' and for us as individuals that we don't get burned out by this whole thing.

Set up your own networks if you can - local ones who you can delegate to, and ones further away who can be your own personal cheerleaders.

Here are some examples of people who are supporting me and keeping my energy up:

Hanne. She came along to the big BRONZ meeting and showed herself willing and able to help out and use her own initiative. I shamelessly took advantage of her and her obvious talents, and she has now become an essential part of the Auckland BRONZ team. :hug:
Pussy. Just for fun check out the visitor messages on my profile page. I told him early on that I was going to be getting tired soon and would need some cheering up. The man has done a brilliant job and my heart lifts every time I see a new message from him. :hug:
The BRU crew. I have just become a new member of the group and find them so supportive that I have no fear in expressing my frustration when I'm exhausted and things aren't going the way I would like. I know I will get unconditional (and confidential) support from them and that's worth its weight in gold. :hug:


So look around and see if there is someone in your networks who can fill some of these roles. A friend who's not even a biker? A family member? A KB person who's in a whole different town to you who will pledge to send you supportive texts or visitor messages?

My energy is also waning at times, but I know I'm in this for the long haul so I need to nurture myself and accept nurturing from others.

[klingon]

Anybody know where nick smith lives? if i still worked at the surveying firm i could find out where his house is, better yet each property that he owns. someone find out and post his address on a thread

Personally I would never endorse protesting at the private home of an MP, or an ACC employee, or anyone else.

We have plenty of other ways we can protest without making it personal.

[Ixion]

I agree. This shouldn't be a personal thing. And upsetting children is not good publicity. Office , yes. Home no.

[ready4whatever]

I agree. This shouldn't be a personal thing. And upsetting children is not good publicity. Office , yes. Home no.

Nick Smith is affecting my life, at work and home, so why not. Its personal to all of us.

[James Deuce]

No he isn't.

It's Government Policy. He's simply the victim/Minister in charge of ACC.

Lighten up.

[Mom]

I think it's really important for the whole 'cause' and for us as individuals that we don't get burned out by this whole thing.

Set up your own networks if you can - local ones whop you can delegate to, and ones further away who can be your own personal cheerleaders.

Here are some examples of people who are supporting me and keeping my energy up:

Hanne. She came along to the big BRONZ meeting and showed herself willing and able to help outr and use her own initiative. I shamelessly took advantage of her and her obvious talents, and she has now become an essential part of the Auckland BRONZ team. :hug:
Pussy. Just for fun check out the visitor messages on my profile page. I told him early on that I was going to be getting tired soon and would need some cheering up. The man has done a brilliant job and my heart lifts every time I see a new message from him. :hug:
The BRU crew. I have just become a new member of the group and find them so supportive that I have no fear in expressing my frustration when I'm exhausted and things aren't going the way I would like. I know I will get unconditional (and confidential) support from them and that's worth its weight in gold. :hug:


So look around and see if there is someone in your networks who can fill some of these roles. A friend who's not even a biker? A family member? A KB person who's in a whole different town to you who will pledge to send you supportive texts or visitor messages?

My energy is also waning at times, but I know I'm in this for the long haul so I need to nurture myself and accept nurturing from others.

I am tired at the moment. I have frankly been overwhelmed by the number of people that have simply stepped up and done what needed to be done. This must be a team effort, and we must all take care of ourselves. For me this means I am taking a weekend out. We have a refuge at Ruakaka, a caravan at the beach. No radio, no TV, no phone, no internet. Cell phone coverage is patchy at the best of times, we simply dont have them on, apart when Mom o'clock arrives. 5pm every day no matter what I have to ring my Mommy.

My advice, accept any and all offers of help, spread the load so it is not onerous for anyone.

Grab a good crowd of friends around you for support when you are frustrated or angry or simply crying tired.

I am here for the long haul.

[Mom]

Nick Smith is affecting my life, at work and home, so why not. Its personal to all of us.

Nick Smith is the Minister for ACC in our current government. He is not personally doing anything to you, or to me or to anyone else. He is simply doing his job, the same way I do every day.

I really dont like what is happening at the moment, but I am hardly likely to blame Nick's Myth personally.

[wingrider]

I think it's really important for the whole 'cause' and for us as individuals that we don't get burned out by this whole thing.

your own personal cheerleaders.


My energy is also waning at times, but I know I'm in this for the long haul so I need to nurture myself and accept nurturing from others.

Now i have a mental picture of Ixion's next briefing.
Klingon with white tennis shoes, red bobby socks, miniskirt and tanktop, wavin fluffy dice in the air screamin "Bullshit"

Yep recon that'll do it. Might reduce Nasty nick to tears.

[Jantar]

Now i have a mental picture of Ixion's next briefing.
Klingon with white tennis shoes, red bobby socks, miniskirt and tanktop, wavin fluffy dice in the air screamin "Bullshit"

.......
It'd be worth a ride to Auckland to see that. :2thumbsup

[James Deuce]

It'd be worth a ride to Auckland to see that. :2thumbsup

I'm in! Meet you at the Ferry!

[Mikkel]

I'm in! Meet you at the Ferry!

AKA approximately half-way there ;)

[James Deuce]

Some of us know what we're doing.

[klingon]

Now i have a mental picture of Ixion's next briefing.
Klingon with white tennis shoes, red bobby socks, miniskirt and tanktop, wavin fluffy dice in the air screamin "Bullshit"

Yep recon that'll do it. Might reduce Nasty nick to tears.

Ixion and I have discussed this and decided that he will wear the tennis shoes, bobby socks and tanktop, and this time I will wear the suit and get to do all the talking.

If I'm really good, he will lend me one of his lovely knitted cardies. :cool:

[James Deuce]

Ixion and I have discussed this and decided that he will wear the tennis shoes, bobby socks and tanktop, and this time I will wear the suit and get to do all the talking.

If I'm really good, he will lend me one of his lovely knitted cardies. :cool:

He'll make that tank top look like a wife-beater cardy, you watch.

[StoneY]

Super Cardy Girl????

:dodge:

[yungatart]

Klingon, you could join our exclusive group...The Cardy Riders!!

[ready4whatever]

ok sorry fellow kiwibikers. you're right. i just want this shit to be over its so depressing!

[wingrider]

He'll make that tank top look like a wife-beater cardy, you watch.

I can see thew headline.

Old aged biker arrested for indecent exposure.

If Ixon wore a tanktop he might suffer from exposure!!

[wingrider]

In todays issue, page three, headline advising that car levies are going up 60%.

AA Spokesman Mark Stockdale quoted as saying they represent 1.2. million members and are quite concerned as to the level of the increase.

Making comment on motorcycle levies he states that a $500 a year increase is quite significant, buy still states we should be paying more.

Well I just canceled my membership.

[rob 0]

thats great news

we need the AA to be on board
1.2 mill added to the cause

[NighthawkNZ]

we need the AA to be on board

We won't get that... AA have never liked motorcycles... thats why I going to start a motorcycle version of AA and call it MANZ Motorcycling Association New Zealand :mellow:

[Charlied1]

Saw Nick the P****k at Brisbane airport on Saturday not sure how long he is away for.