Good & bad press. We need to be careful!

[Kiwi Graham]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10610482

Front page of the Herald.

[James Deuce]

Yeah, it was on National Radio this morning too.

There's more than one way to skin a cat.

"Someone" needs to have a crack at the "journalists" using Web Forums as a reliable news source.

[Str8 Jacket]

"Someone" needs to have a crack at the "journalists" using Web Forums as a reliable news source.

Not just journo's mate. When I was flatting with someone who was (think still is) John Keys press secretary a few years ago he was logged onto as many internet forums as he could to get dirt or see what people were saying regarding politics. He was even logged onto some Gay rights forum as well. They are everywhere, checking out everything.

[Big Dave]

I also harbour concerns that Sunday at Mission Bay is playing directly into TV3 hands.

They have already made their editorial position known - focusing on the crash at the protest ride eg.

They could easily use an opportunity/interview with a hacked off can't-get-a-car-parker to our disadvantage.

Good luck to those attending and please tell them that 'this is an independently organised protest.'

[davereid]

Yeah, it was on National Radio this morning too. There's more than one way to skin a cat. Someone" needs to have a crack at the "journalists" using Web Forums as a reliable news source.

While I absolutely oppose targeting any business in this way, our message has found its way into the paper and onto radio yet again.

Mr Smif and Mr Key got another reminder over brekky that we are still around, and that we plan more, and more and more protests.

Remember ACC is just a tax.

And its turning out that increasing ACCs revenues by less than 1% is creating much more pain for the Government than its worth.

[Kiwi Graham]

I also harbour concerns that Sunday at Mission Bay is playing directly into TV3 hands.

They have already made their editorial position known - focusing on the crash at the protest ride eg.

They could easily use an opportunity/interview with a hacked off can't-get-a-car-parker to our disadvantage.

Good luck to those attending and please tell them that 'this is an independently organised protest.'

I hear you Dave, thats why we must make sure the person they choose to interview has one of our flyers explaining why.

Printing more off today.........

[James Deuce]

While I absolutely oppose targeting any business in this way, our message has found its way into the paper and onto radio yet again.

Mr Smif and Mr Key got another reminder over brekky that we are still around, and that we plan more, and more and more protests.

Remember ACC is just a tax.

And its turning out that increasing ACCs revenues by less than 1% is creating much more pain for the Government than its worth.

Settle, I was just thinking out loud about a different angle. :)

[Big Dave]

We should craft some statements for everyone to parrot if a camera is pointed at them.

that is how the pro's do it. With mental keywords.

[James Deuce]

A communications plan would be an excellent idea Kemo Sabe.

I shall confer with an Oracle.

[scissorhands]

The powerful lobby group that the retailers association which westfield mall is part of, will put pressure on the nats, to give bikers what they want?

They will support us by default?

[Cheshire Cat]

Not just journo's mate. When I was flatting with someone who was (think still is) John Keys press secretary a few years ago he was logged onto as many internet forums as he could to get dirt or see what people were saying regarding politics. He was even logged onto some Gay rights forum as well. They are everywhere, checking out everything.

The dirty sneaky fucking bastard!!:2guns:

[FastBikeGear]

Not just journo's mate. When I was flatting with someone who was (think still is) John Keys press secretary a few years ago he was logged onto as many internet forums as he could to get dirt or see what people were saying regarding politics. He was even logged onto some Gay rights forum as well. They are everywhere, checking out everything.

I am sure they are watching this forum but they claim they were sent notification about the protest.


I also harbour concerns that Sunday at Mission Bay is playing directly into TV3 hands.

They could easily use an opportunity/interview with a hacked off can't-get-a-car-parker to our disadvantage.


How many of the motorists who can't get a park are going to smile and say I support you?

If you hit someone with a stick 5 out of 10 will probably hit you back and the other 5 will put up defences to block you out.

This protest is just dumb.

[Ixion]

Y'know, the PERFECT way to address those concerns, would be for bikers to park up in all the spaces.

Then, when they see a car looking for a park, a noble biker beckons to the car, says " I see you are looking for a park. I'll give you mine and share with that bike there, I can do that because I'm on a motorcycle. But if the government tax us off the road, I'll be forced into a car, and I wouldn't be able to assist you, Here , have a leaflet".

Moves bike, grateful public, message conveyed. next car park that come empty, bike takes it, rinse lather repeat.

That shows us as good guys, AND gets our message across.

[george formby]

I also harbour concerns that Sunday at Mission Bay is playing directly into TV3 hands.

They have already made their editorial position known - focusing on the crash at the protest ride eg.

They could easily use an opportunity/interview with a hacked off can't-get-a-car-parker to our disadvantage.

Good luck to those attending and please tell them that 'this is an independently organised protest.'

My sentiments exacary. Posted similar myself on the Westfield Mall shutdown thread. Softly softly.

[wysper]

Y'know, the PERFECT way to address those concerns, would be for bikers to park up in all the spaces.

Then, when they see a car looking for a park, a noble biker beckons to the car, says " I see you are looking for a park. I'll give you mine and share with that bike there, I can do that because I'm on a motorcycle. But if the government tax us off the road, I'll be forced into a car, and I wouldn't be able to assist you, Here , have a leaflet".

Moves bike, grateful public, message conveyed. next car park that come empty, bike takes it, rinse lather repeat.

That shows us as good guys, AND gets our message across.

I believe it is illegal for two vehicles to be occupying one park. The wardens would be able to ticket both bikes as they would be "unable to ascertain" who was there first. So yes it would be look nice to the motorist, it would be a field day for the revenue collectors.

Course... I could be wrong.

[Ixion]

Nope. Not in Auckland. ACC parking are cool with it (so long as someone has paid the fee, if there is one - don't think there is at MB).

[Big Dave]

My sentiments exacary. Posted similar myself on the Westfield Mall shutdown thread. Softly softly.

Yes - I'm honestly a little conflicted - I trust the organiser's social responsibility entirely - I've also worked with those in the popular press who are paid to construct an angle.

[AD345]

It's a risk but probably not a large one IMO. To a reasonable proportion of the NZ public anyone beig disturbed at Mission Bay is probably a "flash bastard" anyway so we may pick up some vicarious sympathy as well.

People think we have already won.

WE need to show them differently

[Big Dave]

Yes - that makes sense. And I also buy Ixions incidental inconvenience take.

I can also see through the magic 'Innocent Mum needing nappies blockaded from shopping mall by leather clad hoofies' glasses too.

[Ixion]

IME, at this stage such things, if handled properly tend to be "confirming". Those who are already sympathetic will be made more so, those who oppose us will be confirmed in their opinion.

Given how long this has been running I think most people have already taken their position.

[rob 0]

I believe it is illegal for two vehicles to be occupying one park. The wardens would be able to ticket both bikes as they would be "unable to ascertain" who was there first. So yes it would be look nice to the motorist, it would be a field day for the revenue collectors.

Course... I could be wrong.

I belive that the 1960's motorcycle protests in queen st saw the end of that law and we got a bike club called BRONZ to thank

Course... I could be wrong too

[wysper]

I belive that the 1960's motorcycle protests in queen st saw the end of that law and we got a bike club called BRONZ to thank

Course... I could be wrong too

Maybe it is Hamilton Council Bylaws.... I will have to check it out now. I am curious.

[Ixion]

I belive that the 1960's motorcycle protests in queen st saw the end of that law and we got a bike club called BRONZ to thank

Course... I could be wrong too

Hey, that's right. I remember parking up outside 246 and being abused by some random.

[Maha]

Its is conceivable that TV3 will get the 'other view' from car owners on Sunday and edit the item for the 6pm News. But thats the way it goes, shows the balance. We just have to have to better side of the item that goes to air.

[Ronin]

Westfield spokeswoman Linda Trainer said the company had not been notified of any protests but its malls were private property and "we ask at all times for shoppers or visitors to our centres to respect the 'quiet enjoyment' of fellow shoppers and retailers."

The carpark is public road........

[GOONR]

Its is conceivable that TV3 will get the 'other view' from car owners on Sunday and edit the item for the 6pm News. But thats the way it goes, shows the balance. We just have to have to better side of the item that goes to air.

No worries, I can turn up in a car, I have one of those too..