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Shaun
22nd November 2009, 09:02
You all need to get there ASAP, it really is an awsome track

White trash
22nd November 2009, 09:05
It'll certainly be a shiload better when there's some pit coverage, a decent carpark and some place to watch from. Track looks abso-bloody-lutely wicked though.

scracha
22nd November 2009, 09:34
My tuppenceworth.

Bumpy first corner for a new track. Downhill loads up the front big style and it feels like it tightens on the exit (probably just my bad lines)

T2/3 right left uphill flip gets a fair wiggle on the bars, don't fancy it without a damper.

T4 is somehow starting to ripple up already.

Downhill braking into T5..nuff said. Excellent.

Final turn is super awesome. It's gonna claim a few scalps on the exit.

There's so much grip it absolutely DESTROYS tyres.

Unlike Puke, it's fun on a wee bike.

Gonna be an impressive place once the full track, all the pits etc are ready.

These moaning about the $200 are bonkers.

Quasievil
22nd November 2009, 09:45
I reckon its got alot of poorly thought out bits, lack of run off on the down hill left hander, front straight wall to close......no run off, a launching pad onto the front straight to help you get into the wall.
Not impressed considering the apparent level 4 design.

Already tar seeping out on one corner.

Pfft, I aint joining the consensus of popular opinion:girlfight:

Marmoot
22nd November 2009, 10:41
I reckon its got alot of poorly thought out bits, lack of run off on the down hill left hander, front straight wall to close......no run off, a launching pad onto the front straight to help you get into the wall.
Not impressed considering the apparent level 4 design.

Already tar seeping out on one corner.



Funny I actually agree with this chap.

Plus the T2/T3 awesomeness will be gone in the Full Circuit configuration.

scracha
22nd November 2009, 12:02
Funny I actually agree with this chap.

Plus the T2/T3 awesomeness will be gone in the Full Circuit configuration.

Hmm... I thought about how nasty it would be if someone lost the front end braking into T5's downhill. I imagine if the supers come here they'll have to address that.

Exit from final turn, they need to push first 20m of wall back about umm....20 meters. I imagine if the supe.......etc

Was not too stressed out about front straight wall due to it being parallel with the track but they could smooth it out so if you do glance off it you'll slide along it. At the moment there's bits sticking out...ouch.
151934

Supidest shot of the day.
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Shaun
22nd November 2009, 13:40
Pussies! And you all ride on the road:girlfight:

Shaun
22nd November 2009, 13:42
[QUOTE=scracha;1129528302]My tuppenceworth.


There's so much grip it absolutely DESTROYS tyres.


Only because your suspension is NOT set up to be ridden on high mechanical grip tracks

Take a look next time at the Rental track day bikes, all there tyres are going bad as well, WHY, Std suspension and a race track, DO not mix!!

Drew
22nd November 2009, 13:43
Pussies! And you all ride on the road:girlfight:


Who was it crying about how dangerous Pukie was, and how he'd never ride there again for the lack of run off?

If you're gonna stir shit, be consistant for fuck sake!


Pfffffffffffffffffffft, living fucking legend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shaun
22nd November 2009, 13:48
Who was it crying about how dangerous Pukie was, and how he'd never ride there again for the lack of run off?

If you're gonna stir shit, be consistant for fuck sake!


Pfffffffffffffffffffft, living fucking legend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Thanks again DAD!



Hampton Downs IS 100 % Safer than PUKE!

Quasievil
22nd November 2009, 13:57
Thanks again DAD!



Hampton Downs IS 100 % Safer than PUKE!

It would be................its new :girlfight:

scracha
22nd November 2009, 18:31
Only because your suspension is NOT set up to be ridden on high mechanical grip tracks

Well I did come over and ask. To be fair, the talented Mr Taylor came over to twiddle with the compression on my forks which made a big difference. Mibby I got the wrong end of the stick but both he and Mr Shirrifs implied that regardless of suspender setup, the compound on my tyres was simply not going to last the distance and that was primarily due to the extra grap at the track compared to Manfeild.

R6_kid
22nd November 2009, 18:57
The questions hanging on everyones noses is - Does it smell?

I remember someone bitching about it being next to the landfill...

Devil
22nd November 2009, 19:01
My tuppenceworth.

Bumpy first corner for a new track. Downhill loads up the front big style and it feels like it tightens on the exit (probably just my bad lines)

T2/3 right left uphill flip gets a fair wiggle on the bars, don't fancy it without a damper.

T4 is somehow starting to ripple up already.

Downhill braking into T5..nuff said. Excellent.

Final turn is super awesome. It's gonna claim a few scalps on the exit.

There's so much grip it absolutely DESTROYS tyres.

Unlike Puke, it's fun on a wee bike.

Gonna be an impressive place once the full track, all the pits etc are ready.

These moaning about the $200 are bonkers.
There is a small bump in T1 but nothing to be concerned about.

If you're getting a wiggle on through 2 and 3 can I suggest you lighten up on the bars a bit, it's smooth as silk through there. Rider input is the most likely cause.

T4, not sure what you're talking about here, can you be a bit more specific?
I have done the track inspections for the last 4 days and haven't noticed anything significant.

T5, yeah it's great fun. Re: The proximity of the walls - due to the approach speed I dont think it's that bad, but I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up getting moved back a little way. Would be cool if that happened.

Yes, T6 HAS claimed a few scalps ;)

Devil
22nd November 2009, 19:02
You all need to get there ASAP, it really is an awsome track

Glad you enjoyed it, you were getting along pretty quick out there. Next days are 18 and 19 Dec.
That classic bike looks neat!

Shaun
22nd November 2009, 19:04
Well I did come over and ask. To be fair, the talented Mr Taylor came over to twiddle with the compression on my forks which made a big difference. Mibby I got the wrong end of the stick but both he and Mr Shirrifs implied that regardless of suspender setup, the compound on my tyres was simply not going to last the distance and that was primarily due to the extra grap at the track compared to Manfeild.



If Rob and Craig said that mate, it is fact then. Sorry, I was not aware that you are using Proper race set up suspension stuff.

What tyres and comp and pressures are you using????? And do you use tryre warmers??

as I said about the Superbike school bikes, look at the tyres on them next time, they are using STD Road suspension, and the tyres are turning to poo

The bike I had there for Midge Smart, has Ohlin's fork kits and Ohlin's TTX Shock, the tyres are Pirelli, the front was a SC1 and the rear a SC2, these tyres had done 43 laps of test riding at Taupo, and then did all 6 sessions on Saturday

The front is still a very very good condition tyre, the rear is deff past it's best, but we know what to do in the future now, to eliminate this from happening today.

Between Robert ( CKT) Craig S, and Midge Smart, and my initiall test work on Moto-Dynamix GSXR 600, we all learnt a huge amount of things on the day for the future, and you guys, the customer base.

scracha
22nd November 2009, 19:51
There is a small bump in T1 but nothing to be concerned about.

Tis when you're thowing the front end in on a downhill right hander :baby:



If you're getting a wiggle on through 2 and 3 can I suggest you lighten up on the bars a bit, it's smooth as silk through there. Rider input is the most likely cause.

Oh the track is smooth there, just the combination doing a fast flick from right to left combined with a bit more throttle than normal (it's up hill) made it "entertaining". Oh...and it's an 05 ZX-6 so it's prone to it. Rider input...not sure what ya mean but I must save up for some proper training. I'm a proper cynical bastard but I only heard positive stuff about the training.



T4, not sure what you're talking about here, can you be a bit more specific?

Bit bumpy about 2m from the left on the exit just as you're rolling on the throttle. It's not significant but am left wondering how it's there already and if it's a sign of things to come when the very powerful vehicles start tearing around there.

At least guys like Steve seem open to constructive feedback. Hope the guys running the circuit are of the same mind-set.



The questions hanging on everyones noses is - Does it smell?

Didn't seem to...but there was a slight wind (good enough to dry out the mild drizzle) and regardless, I smelt far worse than any rubbish tip by the end of the day.



Shock, the tyres are Pirelli, the front was a SC1 and the rear a SC2, these tyres had done 43 laps of test riding at Taupo, and then did all 6 sessions on Saturday

Oh...Robert fixed my front forks but it's been Drew who's been setting up the bike for me so kudos to Robert that he was still quite happy to nip over and check it out. On at least 2 occasions (t1 and t6 exit) I'd have 100% been on my arse had it not been for the yellow springy things)

PM sent re rubber.

Devil
22nd November 2009, 19:54
The questions hanging on everyones noses is - Does it smell?

I remember someone bitching about it being next to the landfill...
Probably smelled it once (briefly) over the last 7 dates i've spent out there.

Mercer however, on Wed/Thurs farking stunk.

Devil
22nd November 2009, 19:54
At least guys like Steve seem open to constructive feedback. Hope the guys running the circuit are of the same mind-set.

Yer they are good guys.

Shaun
22nd November 2009, 20:13
tis when you're thowing the front end in on a downhill right hander :baby:




# you are on the wrong line then!


Oh the track is smooth there, just the combination doing a fast flick from right to left combined with a bit more throttle than normal (it's up hill) made it "entertaining". Oh...and it's an 05 zx-6 so it's prone to it. Rider input...not sure what ya mean but i must save up for some proper training. I'm a proper cynical bastard but i only heard positive stuff about the training.


Come see me mate, best to run in a taller gear for t2 to t3, as exit of t3 is down hill, and you are on the side wall, so revs climb very quick, and bike is more stable in a taller gear there, also by running in the taller gear, the High speed kick exiting T3 is not as bad.


bit bumpy about 2m from the left on the exit just as you're rolling on the throttle. It's not significant but am left wondering how it's there already and if it's a sign of things to come when the very powerful vehicles start tearing around there.



I never fealt that mate

at least guys like steve seem open to constructive feedback. Hope the guys running the circuit are of the same mind-set.


Didn't seem to...but there was a slight wind (good enough to dry out the mild drizzle) and regardless, i smelt far worse than any rubbish tip by the end of the day.


Oh...robert fixed my front forks but it's been drew who's been setting up the bike for me so kudos to robert that he was still quite happy to nip over and check it out. On at least 2 occasions (t1 and t6 exit) i'd have 100% been on my arse had it not been for the yellow springy things)



there are a few out there that think because they have tinkered and read a lot know a lot, but fact is, it takes more than just turning a screw driver, to set up suspension to it's best condition

( no offence drew)

pm sent re rubber.

pm replied

R6_kid
22nd November 2009, 20:52
Probably smelled it once (briefly) over the last 7 dates i've spent out there.

Mercer however, on Wed/Thurs farking stunk.

Sweetas, when is it my turn to wave the flags?

Gremlin
22nd November 2009, 21:19
T1 claimed a good scalp on Saturday :whistle:

Devil: T4 definitely appears to have a couple of patches, one mid corner, just left of the apex, 1 just further on, their surfaces do not appear consistent with the surrounding area of track. Patches would not quite be larger enough to park a bike on, but certainly big enough to notice.

So from some comments, the track is only the small version for now? Nice corners, but its short at the moment... even at my instructed touring pace.

Devil
23rd November 2009, 08:22
Sweetas, when is it my turn to wave the flags?

I'll be looking at the schedule this week to see who's available. It's a long list though!

Drew
23rd November 2009, 12:33
Oh...Robert fixed my front forks but it's been Drew who's been setting up the bike for me so kudos to Robert that he was still quite happy to nip over and check it out. On at least 2 occasions (t1 and t6 exit) I'd have 100% been on my arse had it not been for the yellow springy things)

PM sent re rubber.

Oi, dont give him any ammo to retort my shit stirring ya fuckin import!!!

javawocky
23rd November 2009, 12:37
Well it was my first track day and I had an absolute blast with the other n00bs :2thumbsup

Even though I got up to some serious speeds in parts (for me anyway) I never felt like run off was an issue - I felt much more uncomfortable on the way home, at least on the track everyone is going in the same direction. Even when those California GSXR Cylons wizzed by I wasn't disturbed until one of them snuck up the inside of T5 and cause me to wobble a bit. Those bikes need after market pipes.

As a n00b I had bad arm pump so couldn't brake as hard as I would have liked to later in the sessions - suppose I need those hand squezzy exercise things.

My only complaint about the track is a lack of markers being such a new track. The little poles are way to far down the track to use as markers.

Anyway, great day, next time will upgrade to the Greens. Sure have some pace on them.

Shaun
23rd November 2009, 12:51
Oi, dont give him any ammo to retort my shit stirring ya fuckin import!!!



Don't need amo to land a big turd from high in your BIG mouth dude:baby:

cowboyz
23rd November 2009, 13:34
so whats a good "road rider" time round there? All reports I have seen is its very very fast. Anyone put a stopwatch on it ? I got to get up and have a play very very soon! just waiitng for work to calm down.

(by "road rider" i am talking about 1.20-1.25s round manfield?)

vtec
23rd November 2009, 19:15
I love the track. Grippy as hell, and the best surface I've ever been on. Some rather tricky and interesting corners, so advantages will be able to be eeked out if you spend some time there. I tried really hard but could not crash the SV650 that I just got.

I'd say a fast time for an IL4 600-1000 road rider would be 1.15 to 1.20 Maybe. That'll probably change as people learn the circuit. Smoothest circuit I've ever been on. Or maybe it's just that my SV is soft and lardy. I like it though, and I feel really fast.

Shaun
23rd November 2009, 20:27
My guess is 5z for SB and 7vnz for 6

Shaun
23rd November 2009, 21:05
Jayden was doing 14's on a 125 and reckon's there is a fair few seconds left in that.


Carefull mate, remember the track rules RE timing on Normal track days like we were at, and the name is trace able IF

vtec
23rd November 2009, 22:20
One of the 125's was doing 14's.

Was that on the Saturday? Or was that the 125 with the red and black shift leathers on the Sunday?

Sparky Bills
23rd November 2009, 22:45
Yes indeed! I REALLY REALLY REALLY want to get back up there again.
And its only going to get better :2thumbsup

I was loving T1...

Motoracer
24th November 2009, 04:20
Yep, I hear ya Mr. Harris. I will get down there at the first available chance in Jan and provided that I have a bike to ride on. :-)

Drew
24th November 2009, 05:52
Don't need amo to land a big turd from high in your BIG mouth dude:baby:

That's the spirit mate, doesn't give me much to work with in the flaming theme though, need to work on the wit methinks.

OnCam
24th November 2009, 06:35
when is the next day for bikes? is there a site that has the up coming events listed?

looks like everyone is enjoying the new track, cant wait to get out there an have a burn!

Devil
24th November 2009, 08:01
Next dates:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=113288

Devil
24th November 2009, 08:03
Carefull mate, remember the track rules RE timing on Normal track days like we were at, and the name is trace able IF

Yeah what he said.
This is an important part of the rules and can result in being told to go home.

javawocky
24th November 2009, 08:08
No mention was made about Videoing on Saturday and I noticed one bike with a camera clearly attached. Has this requirement been dropped or is it just being overlooked?

I would love to have an on board video so I can see how bad I rode and try make improvements.

Devil
24th November 2009, 08:33
Cameras are on probation at the moment.

Sketchy_Racer
24th November 2009, 09:34
Cameras are on probation at the moment.

Why's that?

HamptonDownsRideDays
24th November 2009, 10:07
Our initial policy was no cameras. This is in line with our Eastern Creek and Phillip Island operations.
There's been a large discussion regarding cameras (you'll find the thread on here) and how people dont think that rule is reasonable. We've taken their comments into account and have decided to allow cameras on a probationary period.
Essentially, if people are sensible and dont play up for the camera, then they will continue to be allowed. :Police:

Side note: Camera mounts are still checked at scrutineering. Anything dangerous or sharp will not pass scrutineering.

steveyb
24th November 2009, 10:28
Hi Darrin.
The comment above about timing.
What is the policy there? I am assuming it is not permitted?
Reasons for this?
Cheers

Steve

Biggles08
24th November 2009, 10:33
Our initial policy was no cameras. This is in line with our Eastern Creek and Phillip Island operations.
There's been a large discussion regarding cameras (you'll find the thread on here) and how people dont think that rule is reasonable. We've taken their comments into account and have decided to allow cameras on a probationary period.
Essentially, if people are sensible and dont play up for the camera, then they will continue to be allowed. :Police:

Side note: Camera mounts are still checked at scrutineering. Anything dangerous or sharp will not pass scrutineering.

I think this is a mature approach to this whole topic actually...Cameras are good and bad. I know when I was a 'road rider' doing track days initially I was keen on seeing how fast I could go to watch it back later...now I race I use the camera footage for a completely different reason...to see where I'm 'Actually' going wrong. I have found the cameras to be a great source for humility and has arguably been the single best tool thus far in my riding improvement and my 'race craft.'

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HamptonDownsRideDays
24th November 2009, 10:33
Hampton Downs Ride Days are not race practice days. There is no timing allowed in any of the groups. This is essentially dictated by the insurance companies which allow so many riders to come to these events while still being insured.

MNZ sanctioned official race practice days are not run by us, and therefore are not subject to our rules.

Cheers,

Matt

Shaun
25th November 2009, 09:49
Hampton Downs Ride Days are not race practice days. There is no timing allowed in any of the groups. This is essentially dictated by the insurance companies which allow so many riders to come to these events while still being insured.

MNZ sanctioned official race practice days are not run by us, and therefore are not subject to our rules.

Cheers,

Matt



Just to support this

I know 100%, that certain Insurance companies now have people attending track days, so as to monitor if timing is being done, so as to help protect there investment in you the insured rider.

So save your self the grief, and DO NOT do it

oyster
25th November 2009, 10:37
Why aren't track days "made up" into MNZ events? What's the problem? All it needs is a permit, grade 2 steward and first aid. The knowledge and safety structure is borne of 100 years of worldwide FIM experience so surely this is best way to do it.

I've helped with plenty of such events, MNZ and non. And the non MNZ ones scare me with the thought of who would be strung up if it all went wrong.
Whoever organised it will be asked "did you apply the best standards and structure available in NZ for this activity?" (Hint: the prosecutor would likely have a copy of the MNZ rulebook in their hand...)

And, of course, events with this affiliation puts (some of) these riders on a structured path throught to club involvment, racing and ultimately our sport's elite. We all win

javawocky
25th November 2009, 12:09
For those who were there on the 21 Nov, here are the pics if you haven't seen them already...
http://www.championshipdigital.com/hdrd20091121

*EDIT no offence to the dude on the right, but I really like this pic ;) http://www.championshipdigital.com/hdrd20091121all/h3de35dff#h22d24c21

White trash
25th November 2009, 13:10
Fuckn 'ell! (http://www.championshipdigital.com/hdrd20091121all/h3de35dff#h3fe55544) Check out the rear tyre deflection. LAy off the pies fatty.........

scrivy
25th November 2009, 13:28
Why aren't track days "made up" into MNZ events? What's the problem? All it needs is a permit, grade 2 steward and first aid. The knowledge and safety structure is borne of 100 years of worldwide FIM experience so surely this is best way to do it.

I've helped with plenty of such events, MNZ and non. And the non MNZ ones scare me with the thought of who would be strung up if it all went wrong.
Whoever organised it will be asked "did you apply the best standards and structure available in NZ for this activity?" (Hint: the prosecutor would likely have a copy of the MNZ rulebook in their hand...)

And, of course, events with this affiliation puts (some of) these riders on a structured path throught to club involvment, racing and ultimately our sport's elite. We all win

Would never happen oyster. It would just add extra costs.
You would also need flag marshalls (complete with all the flags... and training.....).
MNZ rulebook is not the best standards either, and would be laughingly contestable in court.
'You honour - I was allowed to race a bucket for 3 meetings, then allowed to go freaky on a GSXR1000 or a 200Hp sidecar in the wet.....'
or
'Your Honour - I was never tested for eye sight, nor colour blindness, nor did I have to undergo a written exam to have a licence.....'
or
'Your Honour - I thought my gear was satisfactory, it passed scrutineering, but tore to shreds and scarred me for life, and my helmet was too old also....'

:whistle:

codgyoleracer
25th November 2009, 14:57
Would never happen oyster. It would just add extra costs.
You would also need flag marshalls (complete with all the flags... and training.....).
MNZ rulebook is not the best standards either, and would be laughingly contestable in court.
'You honour - I was allowed to race a bucket for 3 meetings, then allowed to go freaky on a GSXR1000 or a 200Hp sidecar in the wet.....'
or
'Your Honour - I was never tested for eye sight, nor colour blindness, nor did I have to undergo a written exam to have a licence.....'
or
'Your Honour - I thought my gear was satisfactory, it passed scrutineering, but tore to shreds and scarred me for life, and my helmet was too old also....'

:whistle:

Yip, the days of writing plain english rules or guidlines is becoming ever more difficult. In the eyes of the Law the buck usually stops somwhere (& thats usually with the person who has the least or worst representation in court)
Glen

Ivan
25th November 2009, 15:45
I see you riding a R6 in there Glen was it just a practice or is there gonna to be a 3 cylinder machine sound coming from your pits soon

vtec
25th November 2009, 15:48
Yeah Glen, I chased you on that 450 on my pro twin. It seemed a bit down on power compared to my SV. I'd say your SV with the new frame would be substantially quicker. Although, with development and some more power I'm sure the R4.5 would be an amazing weapon.

Ivan
25th November 2009, 15:52
Yeah Glen, I chased you on that 450 on my pro twin. It seemed a bit down on power compared to my SV. I'd say your SV with the new frame would be substantially quicker. Although, with development and some more power I'm sure the R4.5 would be an amazing weapon.

so that bike is a a 450 then?

codgyoleracer
25th November 2009, 15:57
Yeah Glen, I chased you on that 450 on my pro twin. It seemed a bit down on power compared to my SV. I'd say your SV with the new frame would be substantially quicker. Although, with development and some more power I'm sure the R4.5 would be an amazing weapon.

Yip the 450 was a neat little bike & went ok for its first ever outing. Is this the future of F3 ?, - who knows time will tell. Your lines looked good out there Vtec great to see you back on a bike that should be competitve.
Glen

Bykmad
25th November 2009, 16:14
Hampton Downs signed a contract with the California Super Bike School. That excludes ANY other bodies, be it MNZ, Auckland Motorcycle Club, Hamilton MCC, etc, running ANY type of training days. Thats the info I have.
Does that answer your question Oyster. The option was removed from everyone except the Superbike school.
I hope someone can correct me and say that my info is incorrect.

wharfy
25th November 2009, 17:01
Yip, the days of writing plain english rules or guidlines is becoming ever more difficult. In the eyes of the Law the buck usually stops somwhere (& thats usually with the person who has the least or worst representation in court)
Glen

Thats one of the reasons ACC was initially set up a "no fault" compensation and rehabilitation scheme. The Guy who planned it was a High Court Judge - he knew that going through the courts was basically unfair and a waste of time and money. He also did some sums and having it run by the Govt. was cheaper than using insurance companies. Which STILL applies



The 2008 independent review of the ACC scheme
confirmed the low administrative costs of a state-run
scheme:

New Zealand has lower claims management expenses (8% of total expenditure), than all Australian schemes (9-32%) and lower total administration expenses (24% of total expenditure) than the schemes providing comparable benefits...
It is clear that ACC is paying a relatively high portion of total premiums directly to claimant benefits.

Sorry to hijack your thread - :Offtopic: -as you were

Peter Smith
25th November 2009, 19:12
Hampton Downs Ride Days are not race practice days. There is no timing allowed in any of the groups. This is essentially dictated by the insurance companies which allow so many riders to come to these events while still being insured.

MNZ sanctioned official race practice days are not run by us, and therefore are not subject to our rules.

Cheers,

Matt

My race bike has a cheap push button type timer set up on the left handlebar.
Is this OK? I don't have any insurance.
Are race bikes allowed at these ride days?

Kiwi Graham
25th November 2009, 19:33
Hampton Downs signed a contract with the California Super Bike School. That excludes ANY other bodies, be it MNZ, Auckland Motorcycle Club, Hamilton MCC, etc, running ANY type of training days. Thats the info I have.
Does that answer your question Oyster. The option was removed from everyone except the Superbike school.
I hope someone can correct me and say that my info is incorrect.

If that is correct it's a real shame.
I struggle to see the buisness logic in restricting your income to such a degree. The banks lending the money may have something to say about this unusual way of attempting to make a profit, surley a new businesses priority is to make money and pay back asap.

In saying all that Hamilton motorcycle club have held an event there earlier this month.
Car clubs are holding events.

Perhaps it's 'just for profit' organisations and not 'clubs' the reference is to?

Cleve
25th November 2009, 20:29
If that is correct it's a real shame.
I struggle to see the buisness logic in restricting your income to such a degree. The banks lending the money may have something to say about this unusual way of attempting to make a profit, surley a new businesses priority is to make money and pay back asap.

In saying all that Hamilton motorcycle club have held an event there earlier this month.
Car clubs are holding events.

Perhaps it's 'just for profit' organisations and not 'clubs' the reference is to?

Honda Riders Club have a day there soon - so I don't think it is true

HamptonDownsRideDays
25th November 2009, 20:30
My race bike has a cheap push button type timer set up on the left handlebar.
Is this OK? I don't have any insurance.
Are race bikes allowed at these ride days?

Absolutely you're allowed race bikes, just like at other track days.

We do not allow timing, but realise that many new bikes these days come with onboard lap timers. We are not banning bikes with timers, but you are still not allowed to time.

slowpoke
25th November 2009, 21:35
There's always room for improvement but Hampton Downs Ridedays have run the most professional track day I've yet to see in NZ.

marty
25th November 2009, 22:02
Probably smelled it once (briefly) over the last 7 dates i've spent out there.

Mercer however, on Wed/Thurs farking stunk.

yeah wtf was up with that? it was like that on friday too - really really sharp!

the hampton downs rubbish tip is actually really tidy - i flew over it last week. it is mostly capped - only about a 100 x 100m plug is exposed.

Tony.OK
26th November 2009, 00:02
So will there be any regular "TEST" days for racers at HD like other tracks have?
Or only before sanctioned events?

Timing will need to be allowed at some stage for testing surely?

Devil
26th November 2009, 07:53
yeah wtf was up with that? it was like that on friday too - really really sharp!

the hampton downs rubbish tip is actually really tidy - i flew over it last week. it is mostly capped - only about a 100 x 100m plug is exposed.

Apparently they were spreading chicken shit fertiliser on some farm or fields to the west of the river. Bleagh.

Devil
26th November 2009, 07:58
So will there be any regular "TEST" days for racers at HD like other tracks have?
Or only before sanctioned events?

Timing will need to be allowed at some stage for testing surely?

As far as i'm aware the track will run test days for cars and bikes (like the other tracks) but i'm not sure if they're ready to do that yet.

Until that is up and running there may only be proper test days before sanctioned events.
There's nothing stopping you from going fast at a ride day (Mr Shirriffs was fair honking along on Sat), you're just not allowed to time (along with the usual passing type rules etc).

Tony.OK
26th November 2009, 08:09
As far as i'm aware the track will run test days for cars and bikes (like the other tracks) but i'm not sure if they're ready to do that yet.

Until that is up and running there may only be proper test days before sanctioned events.
There's nothing stopping you from going fast at a ride day (Mr Shirriffs was fair honking along on Sat), you're just not allowed to time (along with the usual passing type rules etc).

Sweet.........good to know.

Toast
26th November 2009, 08:56
Surely you could have the fast group designated as a ‘race’ group…meaning that anyone can enter it (road bikes, race bikes), timing is allowed…I wouldn’t think that this would void the insurance of those in other groups….then everyone’s happy.

The exception being if there were stuff all people that wanted in to the race group, then you’d have to can it out of fairness, but this seems like a way to please everyone?

White trash
26th November 2009, 09:16
Surely you could have the fast group designated as a ‘race’ group…meaning that anyone can enter it (road bikes, race bikes), timing is allowed…I wouldn’t think that this would void the insurance of those in other groups….then everyone’s happy.

The exception being if there were stuff all people that wanted in to the race group, then you’d have to can it out of fairness, but this seems like a way to please everyone?
I think the point is that the day as a whole is marketed as a "Training" day and for very good reason. It gives the Insurance companies faith in the fact that steps are being taken to ensure it doesn't turn into an unofficial "race" meeting.

One simple rule, "No timing at our events" means that there are no insurance dramas for anybody else. Seems pretty simple to me and a good step by the organisers.

Shaun
26th November 2009, 20:23
There's always room for improvement but Hampton Downs Ridedays have run the most professional track day I've yet to see in NZ.


M first experience with them was good.

Sign on etc was a breeze, free coffee and tea great.


The NO timing ( Due to Insurance) Could have been explained a little better, so the race riders and the ROAD riders understood the Insurance issue better.

The Calli SB riders, ( generalising) Need to follow the track controlers briefing instructions a little better also, RE distance to passing!

But in total support as well as Honesty

MotoTT, has been running the very best quality Track days I have seen in this country so far, thourough scruitineering, riders briefing, flag control

I have only been to MotoTT and Ham Downs so far.

Next year, I will be attending every track day there is! UNLESS there is some buisness deal in place, which does not allow my buisness to attend?

Shaun
26th November 2009, 20:25
I think the point is that the day as a whole is marketed as a "Training" day and for very good reason. It gives the Insurance companies faith in the fact that steps are being taken to ensure it doesn't turn into an unofficial "race" meeting.

One simple rule, "No timing at our events" means that there are no insurance dramas for anybody else. Seems pretty simple to me and a good step by the organisers.


SIMPLE, is that not your mid name Bro

Shaun
26th November 2009, 20:26
So will there be any regular "TEST" days for racers at HD like other tracks have?
Or only before sanctioned events?

Timing will need to be allowed at some stage for testing surely?



Timing for you Ha Ha, your mrs tells me you last 10 seconds, why do you want us to know that

Sidewinder
26th November 2009, 20:27
The questions hanging on everyones noses is - Does it smell?

I remember someone bitching about it being next to the landfill...

that land fill is called springhill prison

scracha
26th November 2009, 21:30
Timing for you Ha Ha, your mrs tells me you last 10 seconds, why do you want us to know that
Tony's missus spoke to your missus and was just trying to impress you?

Tony.OK
26th November 2009, 22:03
Timing for you Ha Ha, your mrs tells me you last 10 seconds, why do you want us to know that

10.73 seconds to be exact :woohoo:

And unlike at the track ...................... I always come 1st :oi-grr:

Gremlin
27th November 2009, 00:11
Also part of the marshalls brief was to keep an eye on passing. Bikes passing too close too often were flagged and "reminded" :whistle:

bikerboy011
27th November 2009, 05:17
It is an awesome track indeed, really liked the way how it goes up and down unlike other tracks.