The essence

[carver]

Do you guys think you loose the essence of motorcycling when you all have big bikes and ride hard?
Maybe the best bits are when you are all riding small stuff with your mates, and learning.
I have noticed that once people "touch the top" they tend to give it up.

[Ixion]

The funness of a bike is inversely proportional to its size and power.

The funest bike ever made was the BSA Bantam.

[AllanB]

I have noticed that once people "touch the top" they tend to give it up.


Eh - is that a sexual term Carver?

[Motu]

The funness of a bike is inversely proportional to its size and power.

The funest bike ever made was the BSA Bantam.

Zigactly.I used to ride around on a Yamaha Mini Enduro,it was so small instead of putting my leg out around corners I'd use my knee.Lots of fun,but it made a mess of my Levi's.

Never got much fun out of shit loads of power - but got shit loads of fun out of gutless.

[PirateJafa]

Do you guys think you loose the essence of motorcycling when you all have big bikes and ride hard?
Maybe the best bits are when you are all riding small stuff with your mates, and learning.
I have noticed that once people "touch the top" they tend to give it up.

Spoken like a true pussy.

[Ronin]

Best ride I have ever had was taking a RG150 to the top of the Takas and back. I was laughing that hard when I got to the top I almost fell off.

[Toaster]

Im nowhere near the top and having fun on the journey.

[crash harry]

There's something in it, but it's not everything.

I didn't get on well with the Hayabusa - it was awesome in it's way but nowhere near as much fun as other bikes I've had. I think I like 600s better than thous, but everytime I go to buy a new bike I seem to end up with a big one.

Definitely agree with the sentiment of thrashing an RG150 or similar. That is so much fun it makes me laugh out loud in my helmet. FXR150s are pretty hilarious too - especially when you weigh as much as I do.

[Hahn]

Do you guys think you loose the essence of motorcycling when you all have big bikes and ride hard?
Maybe the best bits are when you are all riding small stuff with your mates, and learning.
I have noticed that once people "touch the top" they tend to give it up.

Are you giving up?

[ducatijim]

Wow, I'm surprised to see this posted!

4 once I agree with Carvers sentiments-there is a lot to be said in favour of trying to extract the best from 'modest' machine, and having to pay more attention to enviromental challenges to get the whole package to deliver when a 'powerful' bike would walk away with it!

1 of my most satisfying challenges completed, was the RN south X on my DR650 :2thumbsup

[pzkpfw]

Poodling around Wellington on my previous bike, an NZ250, was fun. Flick flick flick. Squeeze "performance" (ha!) out of it.

Way long long ago my RD250/350LC was perfect. (Better long distance than the NZ250 ever would have been).

My current Z750S is "plenty" for me.

So I pretty much agree that bigger / faster / more isn't always "better".

I keep my "100%" pretty low, relatively, then have lots of fun aiming for 80% of that.

[carver]

Are you giving up?

never!!!!!

Just thinking back....

[Horse]

The funness of a bike is inversely proportional to its size and power.

Absolutely. I hate my bike.

[Cheshire Cat]

Spoken like a true pussy.

takes one to know one, bitch

[ready4whatever]

I'll let you know when im an old bastard and been riding for years. For now im at the start of my biking life, and absolutely loving it

[Thani-B]

I'll let you know when im an old bastard and been riding for years. For now im at the start of my biking life, and absolutely loving it

Same here.

[gatch]

Do you guys think you loose the essence of motorcycling when you all have big bikes and ride hard?
Maybe the best bits are when you are all riding small stuff with your mates, and learning.
I have noticed that once people "touch the top" they tend to give it up.

I don't think I could have "fun" caning a big bike, it would be more an exercise in trying not to die for the sake of trying to look cool..

[Motoracer]

Its like a movie. You go up to higher levels or riding, faster, better and you have the best time of your life. Each new ride where you go faster learn new tricks is exciting and nothing else beats it. Exactly like a drug though, the more you intencify your experiences, the more numb you become. Then suddenly you have to push the machine far too hard just to get the buzz. Then Depending when your peak is, your perspecive changes. How ever just like a fukin drug (I am not a druggy btw) it is still ever so addictive and most cant keep away.

One of the best rides I ever had was:

Me on 1995 XR600 and Loosebruce on his TL1000S. It was a proper head to head through the SH22.

Whangamata - Waihi with Loosebruce and dss3. Both were on TL1000S's and me again on my XR600 in pissing down rain.

Me on my 1989 rangi as TZR250 Two Smoker on his RG150 in pissing down rain and again a head to head battle for the whole way of SH22 and back.

I have had other much much faster rides on bigger faster and better bikes but on hind sight they were all far too fast and dangerous. When you have a late model sports bike with race tires, it takes the real fun away on the roads. I personally have my bike now primarily for the Nürburgring Nordschleife, which for me is the ultimate fun.

[Brian d marge]

The funness of a bike is inversely proportional to its size and power.

The funest bike ever made was the BSA Bantam.

+1

Had many of those ,,, the last one had a 185 big bore kit in

From Andy down south london way

I really want another one ,,,,,,I likes the Cub framed ones and I wish they had continued as the last prototype looked awesome

Stephen

[LBD]

Do you guys think you loose the essence of motorcycling when you all have big bikes and ride hard?
Maybe the best bits are when you are all riding small stuff with your mates, and learning.
I have noticed that once people "touch the top" they tend to give it up.

No...wrong....and I am an old bastard and been riding for years....


I'll let you know when im an old bastard and been riding for years. For now im at the start of my biking life, and absolutely loving it

[Highlander]

Caning it? wouldn't know how.

Quite enjoy riding my Wife's SV400, accross town and the occaisional bit longer blat, great wee bike.
Get back on my BMW and my riding style changes, but I think it is a real pleasure to ride.

Can certainly see how one could get the feeling of extracting more of the bikes potenial on a small bike, I think most of us wont even get close to reaching the Bikes potential on a big bike (know for sure I dont).

[Trudes]

I was thinking something similar not too long ago. I get very little enjoyment from riding my Hornet on the road anymore, I'd much rather piss about on my 100CCs of 2 stroke fun bucket.

[Pixie]

Rejoice my children,for The Two Stroke will arise once again and all will be happy in Biker land.

[Swoop]

Do you guys think you loose the essence...
Having something so loose that "the essence can flow out"... perhaps too many curries or honda riders in the vicinity???

[Mr Merde]

37 years on two wheels.

I've traded up and down the sizes and across the marques.

Never lost the love of riding. Never had a cage licence. 53 years old tomorrow.

In London (1978) my personal bike was a Norvin, my working bike an X7 Suzuki 250. Still enjoyed the riding.

Went from a ZZR1100 to a VFR750, Still enjoyed the riding.

Every bike has its little quirks and therefore requires learning.

unfortunately for me that learning entails taking it to extremes and usually falling off.

[Mr Merde]

Rejoice my children,for The Two Stroke will arise once again and all will be happy in Biker land.

I for one would be standing in the queue waiting.

I miss those narrow powerbands, that smell of Castrol R, the high pitched pinging of the exhaust, the lighter weight.

Could I ride one all day, I dont think so.. not anymore. I've been spoiled by these big 4 strokes with lots of torque.

[LBD]

I was thinking something similar not too long ago. I get very little enjoyment from riding my Hornet on the road anymore, I'd much rather piss about on my 100CCs of 2 stroke fun bucket.

Yea Right!....Tuis please

[Trudes]

Yea Right!....Tuis please

Seriously! Why would you doubt it?

[javawocky]

I think most riders get scared off by the big bikes and give up.

When I first got Thumper I remember having such a hard time around our local twisty (50-70zone) muscling the beast around the corners. But, after a few rides you learn to adjust your riding style, lean more, go in wider, counter steer, next thing you are flicking it like you used on the RG150.

I sometimes ride the wifes Scorpio around the burbs and have a blast, but wouldn't give up the torque of the V-twin.

[LBD]

Seriously! Why would you doubt it?

I..inaccurately speed read... that you had buckets of fun on your 100 cc 2 stroke...when I re read your post I noticed it was a 100cc bucket racer you were refering to....Any track time is fun although the main straight gets a little long on a small bike.

Apologies.

[R1madness]

Big bikes are great fun They need a bit of skill to ride safely. People often get out of their depth with them. Fast, fun, fuc*ing insane. Dont be scared.

[mynameis]

the best bits are when you are all riding small stuff
I have noticed that once people "touch the top" they tend to give it up.

:lol:

+10 char

[carver]

:lol:

+10 char

As in start racing and give it up

[Trudes]

I..inaccurately speed read... that you had buckets of fun on your 100 cc 2 stroke...when I re read your post I noticed it was a 100cc bucket racer you were refering to....Any track time is fun although the main straight gets a little long on a small bike.

Apologies.

haha no worries.... it is buckets of fun!