Surely this is not legal - shame on the cops

[Big Dan]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3085475/Police-dob-in-drink-driver-to-Air-NZ

[Hans]

Dunno if it's legal in NZ, although I seriously doubt it. I do know, however, that in most European countries this would carry a jail sentence for the cops under a paragraph that is generally called "Abuse of official power".

[huff3r]

Well apparently there were privacy issues surrounding the whole "name and shame" section of the paper they used to run with drink driving charges, hence it being dropped... sounds dodgy to me!

[Skyryder]

All the cops have done is turn someone, who in all probablity, had both their respect and support into someone who now has neither................and for what.

But truth be tell it was problay one indavidual who at some stage in their life put the hardword on an air hostess and got knocked back. Just hope she gets to kick their arse.


Skyryder

[James Deuce]

Least corrupt country in the world. Yeah, right.

[Taz]

I used to respect the police and the job they did. Now they are fast becoming only revenue collectors and harrasment officials. I'm rarely even polite to them now.

[p.dath]

I can see a flip side to this.

The Police obviously knew she worked for an airline, but probably didn't know what she did.

If A Pilot flew drunk then hundreds of people could be killed. There are greater issues of public safety that the Police reasonably considered.

[CookMySock]

The police are always a little selective in what information they use, and how they use it. I kinda don't blame them in this case, but it seems more a matter of whether she can be dismissed for this or not.

Steve

[red mermaid]

If you read the article you will see that she was ON her way to work.
Do you want a drunk air hostess looking after you in a safety situation in the air?

And also note her name was only released once the airline made a request under the Official Information Act.

[Kevnz]

Can we use the Official Information Act to see how many Police officers have got off DIC, or had no charges layed for it in the last year ?

[kwaka_crasher]

I used to respect the police and the job they did. Now they are fast becoming only revenue collectors and harrasment officials. I'm rarely even polite to them now.

Ditto. I won't even stop to talk to the cunts... :whistle:

[p.dath]

Can we use the Official Information Act to see how many Police officers have got off DIC, or had no charges layed for it in the last year ?

You could probably get the aggregate information (no names, since you haven't given any), but you may be charged for the persons time used to generate that data.

[ManDownUnder]

There are greater issues of public safety that the Police reasonably considered.

And what about privacy or due process?

[Forest]

Police would not comment on that but assistant commissioner, operations Vic Rickard said: "We do take steps and preventative action when issues of behaviour impact on wider public safety."

I think the Police were justified in what they did.

[FROSTY]

This is typical sensationalism. A DIC conviction for say blowing 420 is a shitload different from blowing 1000 for example. One being slightly over the limit at which an adult is concidered capable of sagfely driving a vehicle the other clearly being double it. yep both are over but the lower is a mistake the other clearly not

[ready4whatever]

Shes already been set a court date. I think theres no reason for the police to stick their noses in any more

[LBD]

Least corrupt country in the world. Yeah, right.

This is not a corrupt action....what the police /Air NZ did, is not right, but not corrupt...

This is an example of why NZ is recognised as least corrupt...everyone sticking their nose into everyone elses business....dobbing people in when it is none of their business....neighbours watching over the fence, watch dog committees set up to watch....you cannot get away with anything.

Still love NZ however...

[Usarka]

Drunk flight attendants are the most fun. Cop was just bitter that he didn't score a blowy.

[Insanity_rules]

The police gained my repect and then lost it again a little while ago. They have a hard job but quite often dont get it right, go too far or just completely muck it up.

[Forest]

This is not a corrupt action....what the police /Air NZ did, is not right, but not corrupt...

This is an example of why NZ is recognised as least corrupt...everyone sticking their nose into everyone elses business....dobbing people in when it is none of their business....neighbours watching over the fence, watch dog committees set up to watch....you cannot get away with anything.

Still love NZ however...

You should try Switzerland.

When I lived there, it was against the law to hang out your washing to dry unless it was an approved day of the week. Your neighbours would report you to the authorities if you put out the washing on a non-approved day.

I'm not joking about this.

[Mully]

I can see a flip side to this.

The Police obviously knew she worked for an airline, but probably didn't know what she did.

If A Pilot flew drunk then hundreds of people could be killed. There are greater issues of public safety that the Police reasonably considered.

A female pilot?

Now you need to be breath tested....... :girlfight:

[cowboyz]

I can see a flip side to this.

The Police obviously knew she worked for an airline, but probably didn't know what she did.

If A Pilot flew drunk then hundreds of people could be killed. There are greater issues of public safety that the Police reasonably considered.

she was a woman! That alone should tell you she was lucky to be driving a car. Theres no one in their right mind going to let her drive an airplane!:girlfight::girlfight:


This is typical sensationalism. A DIC conviction for say blowing 420 is a shitload different from blowing 1000 for example. One being slightly over the limit at which an adult is concidered capable of sagfely driving a vehicle the other clearly being double it. yep both are over but the lower is a mistake the other clearly not

exactly! She may have been a little hungover, or maybe even been fine and just resudal from the night before. Way over the top! far too many rules and people sticking their nose in in NZ!

[LBD]

You should try Switzerland.

When I lived there, it was against the law to hang out your washing to dry unless it was an approved day of the week. Your neighbours would report you to the authorities if you put out the washing on a non-approved day.

I'm not joking about this.

I know your not Joking ...Depends on whose calculations you look at,...(Forbes) has NZ, Switzerland, Danmark, Sweden and Singapore as the least corrupt....and amongst the most corrupt is the tiny central Asian republic of Kyrgyzsatan....where speeding fines are 300 som spot fines that do not get to see the inside of the govt coffers. (Check out where I live)

[scissorhands]

They will often let you off if you are polite, they like your attitude, and your driving or vehicle is of no interest to them....imagine all the drongoes they have to deal with

[Lias]

Personally I think they should publish the names of every single drunk driver on the front page of the paper, and on giant roadside billboards but hey thats just me.

[Indoo]

She may have been a little hungover, or maybe even been fine and just resudal from the night before.

You don't blow over 400 from being 'fine' and just having a wee bit of residual alcohol in your system and it would be absolutely impossible to blow over the next morning if you had only had 5 drinks over 5 hours the previous night which in itself probably wouldn't have put her over the limit even if she had driven immediately afterwards.

[nudemetalz]

Would we still feel sorry for her if she had an accident while drunk and killed a motorcyclist?

[sidecar bob]

This is typical sensationalism. A DIC conviction for say blowing 420 is a shitload different from blowing 1000 for example. One being slightly over the limit at which an adult is concidered capable of sagfely driving a vehicle the other clearly being double it. yep both are over but the lower is a mistake the other clearly not

You have obviously never played around with a Police issue Alcatec when you have been on the piss.
Anyone that blows 400 knows damn well that they are pissed & shouldnt be driving & deserve to be busted.

[White trash]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3085475/Police-dob-in-drink-driver-to-Air-NZ
OK. You're on your way to work after a hard night on the Raz, you get pulled through a checkpoint and blow well over the legal limit.

Is it safe for you to be operating a fork hoist in that condition?

Look at it from the reverse, one of your family members is killed while at work by someone driving a forkhoist still pissed from the night before. Turns out the cops did him for DIC on the way to work yet didn't inform his employer that he was unfit to work as they'd read a thread on KB saying that it shouldn't be legal for them to so. You cool with that?

Sorry big fella, I fully support them notifying an employer that someone's been done DIC on their way to work.

[kwaka_crasher]

OK. You're on your way to work after a hard night on the Raz, you get pulled through a checkpoint and blow well over the legal limit.

Is it safe for you to be operating a fork hoist in that condition?

Look at it from the reverse, one of your family members is killed while at work by someone driving a forkhoist still pissed from the night before. Turns out the cops did him for DIC on the way to work yet didn't inform his employer that he was unfit to work as they'd read a thread on KB saying that it shouldn't be legal for them to so. You cool with that?

Sorry big fella, I fully support them notifying an employer that someone's been done DIC on their way to work.

Forklifts? Cripes. There's obviously much more to being an Air Waitress than I realised!

[Indiana_Jones]

I used to respect the police and the job they did. Now they are fast becoming only revenue collectors and harrasment officials. I'm rarely even polite to them now.

Same here.

Granted you're average cunt on the beat isn't all bad, I just think NZ cops don't know the meaning of the word "discretion"

-Indy

[White trash]

Forklifts? Cripes. There's obviously much more to being an Air Waitress than I realised!
Not really. Big Dan's not charged with assisting 200 panicking pasengers escape a burning aircraft within 30 seconds during an emergency. I can't even tie my shoelaces when I'm half cut, let alone find an emergancy exit.

The potential for some serious shit to go wrong is exactly the same.

Also, another point is as follows. If she's iresponsible enough to drive while drunk (and don't tell me it's hard to know), how responsible and dedicated to her job is she? Frankly I wouldn't put up with my staff turning up to work pissed, and I'd be thankfull the police notified me.

[Indiana_Jones]

How about the cops tell her employer that she's also a rug muncher and preys to false idols in her free time.

For safety and all that

-Indy

[ready4whatever]

Forklifts? Cripes. There's obviously much more to being an Air Waitress than I realised!

Haha. She might spill water on one of the customers. Sure she can misguide people on how to buckle up their seatbelt or miss an order with them cheap cookies. worse thing i can think of is she trips up and pushes the 'dive bomb' button. or kicks a hole in the plane with a stiletto :laugh:

I'd understand if she guided the plane in from base. The cops pissed she didnt put out more than a high reading..


Not really. Big Dan's not charged with assisting 200 panicking pasengers escape a burning aircraft within 30 seconds during an emergency. I can't even tie my shoelaces when I'm half cut, let alone find an emergancy exit.


If your heading down to earth in a burning jet plane, your screwed anyway. What can ya do

[FROSTY]

You have obviously never played around with a Police issue Alcatec when you have been on the piss.
Anyone that blows 400 knows damn well that they are pissed & shouldnt be driving & deserve to be busted.
Actually mate--Honest story here.
A few years back I was sober driver for a bunch of my mates. We were out going to the pub then on to cause a bit of strife in a local club or two.
I was at that stage a teetotaler (didn't drink at all)
One of my "freinds" thought it would be a huge joke to get ol Frosty pissed.So over the course of a couple of hours he was getting me fruit juice with a lil "extra"
It backfired on us when In transit we got pulled over and I blew 420 (or whatever fuck all over the limit is)
I had no idea I was even slightly under the influence so told the cops i had not been drinking booze.

Ohh and heres the kicker. My mate without prompting by me fessed up to me THEN later also stood up in court and fessed up to the judge.
Perhaps his honesty could be a lesson to Yamaha 600/1000 riders wearing white boots.

[sidecar bob]

Perhaps his honesty could be a lesson to Yamaha 600/1000 riders wearing white boots.

White boots?? surely nobody would do that, thats an open admission of homosexuality.

[cowboyz]

OK. You're on your way to work after a hard night on the Raz, you get pulled through a checkpoint and blow well over the legal limit.

Is it safe for you to be operating a fork hoist in that condition?

Look at it from the reverse, one of your family members is killed while at work by someone driving a forkhoist still pissed from the night before. Turns out the cops did him for DIC on the way to work yet didn't inform his employer that he was unfit to work as they'd read a thread on KB saying that it shouldn't be legal for them to so. You cool with that?

Sorry big fella, I fully support them notifying an employer that someone's been done DIC on their way to work.



what about if your local bike shop mechanic goes out on the piss and goes to work hungover and forgets to tighen your front wheel and it falls off and you are riding home

I vote for prohibition! Its the only way.

seriously. fine, if she was unfit to work then send her home on a sick day. losing her job is OTT!

[White trash]

what about if your local bike shop mechanic goes out on the piss and goes to work hungover and forgets to tighen your front wheel and it falls off and you are riding home

I vote for prohibition! Its the only way.

seriously. fine, if she was unfit to work then send her home on a sick day. losing her job is OTT!
Fine, losing her job is OTT, but if the cops hadn't told her employer, she would have gone to work anyway.

Beef should be with Air New Zealand, not the cops for informing them.

[Ixion]

Which would maybe be arguable EXCEPT for this


Just under two weeks after the flight attendant was caught, and before she had appeared in court or been convicted, police contacted Air NZ, providing her breath-test reading (but not her name) and offering to discuss the matter and reveal further details if required.


So the cops DIDN'Tcontact her employers as concerned public spirited etc, when she was caught over the limit.

They waited two weeks THEN dobbed her in.

One thing to call and say "Ah, look, we've just now stopped one of your flight attendants, and she's intoxicated. Dunno if you want her flying like that". And another thing entirely to call and say "Two weeks ago we stopped one of your etc".

Hard to see any public need justification two weeks after the event.

[Forest]

According to the article, she lost her job five months after the drink driving incident.

You can't tell me that Air NZ didn't provide her with due process.

[McWild]

She drove drunk.

Fuck her.

[SPman]

If you read the article you will see that she was ON her way to work.
Do you want a drunk air hostess looking after you in a safety situation in the air?

And also note her name was only released once the airline made a request under the Official Information Act.
And the police divulged it immediately. Ever tried to get stuff under the OIA"let alone the names of people who are yet to go to court"! - it can take bloody ages - unless you're a big company, obviously!
She drove drunk.

Fuck her. So - that gives the police the right to play fast and loose with private information at their whim? Perhaps one of the cops tried the second item and she told him likewise!

[caseye]

I can see a flip side to this.

The Police obviously knew she worked for an airline, but probably didn't know what she did.

If A Pilot flew drunk then hundreds of people could be killed. There are greater issues of public safety that the Police reasonably considered.

Man are you for real?
They'd know to the nenth degree what she did where she did it and for how long, long before they told on her. I sincerely hope the officers involved are strung up.

[scissorhands]

Leave the poor cops alone. What a cunt of a job having to deal with this shit, like guilty fuckers getting off on a technicality because they wrote the date wrong. 420 reading on the way to operating part of a plane. I congradulate them for making my world a safer place.


Imported Czech lager Budejovicky Budvar only $11.99 a six pack @ foodtown this week. Its actually quite good and a nice change from Becks

[caseye]

Leave the poor cops alone. What a cunt of a job having to deal with this shit, like guilty fuckers getting off on a technicality because they wrote the date wrong. 420 reading on the way to operating part of a plane. I congradulate them for making my world a safer place.


Imported Czech lager Budejovicky Budvar only $11.99 a six pack @ foodtown this week. Its actually quite good and a nice change from Becks

So she wasn't convicted of any crime when the Police told her employers, she did not continue on to her work that day, she went home.Rang in sick.
Your'e telling me it's OK with you that the Police can do this sort of thing without a conviction or thought that their equipment might be faulty, remember that if they can do it, you and I can too!
That where you want your personal information, the public arena.

[scissorhands]

Conviction or not doesnt mean guilty. She was on her way to operating a plane full of people.

What should a good cop do?

I dont want my private info available but it is. Its super boring, so i dont really care as long as I can get pissed and forget it sometimes. Since a baby, caesar always has had my arse and prolly always will

[caseye]

Conviction or not doesnt mean guilty. She was on her way to operating a plane full of people.

What should a good cop do?

I dont want my private info available but it is. Its super boring, so i dont really care as long as I can get pissed and forget it sometimes. Since a baby, caesar always has had my arse and prolly always will

A good cop?
Well it wasn't the officer who processed her that told Air New Zealand that one of it's Air Hostesses had recently been caught DIC.
The decision to tell them had to have been made by a ranking officer.
Why, that decision was made just 2 weeks after she had been caught, not After she had been through the court system and proved guilty or Not Guilty, I'll never know.
Her innocence as all of our innocences are supposed to be, is, Innocent until proven guilty.
Not told on by Police before her trial and then losing her job.
That is plain wrong, it's cost her her job, her carer in the flight attendant industry and any credability she may have once had.
I can't beleive that we are having this discussion, the Police of all institutions should never be telling employers anything of their employees business unless it relates directly to thier being found guilty of a crime.
Can the Prosecution in a court case tell the jury of a defendants previous convictions?
No they can't!
How is it then that the Police have suddenly become God and been able to do something as basically wrong as this???
I'm shocked and dismayed at their attitude to this situation.
Course as for anyone else, I'm going purely on what I've read, seen and heard.

[scissorhands]

I feel a sense of timelessness around the arguement of: the state, big brother, the man, the establishment. I mean, i know its fucked, but thats how we are? In the future................Sometimes you just gotta roll with the punches. Risking the lives of innocent people is a police matter worthy of intervention. Better to er on the side of caution no?

I imagine she was accessed on character and drinking around work and found lacking?

[pete376403]

Apart from the little mime act at the beginng of the flight, and handing out the boiled sweets at the end, what do the hosties *really* do that affects your safety during the flight? Isn't it the guys up the front who do the driving?

[LBD]

Apart from the little mime act at the beginng of the flight, and handing out the boiled sweets at the end, what do the hosties *really* do that affects your safety during the flight? Isn't it the guys up the front who do the driving?

Its more than a little mime, its a serious presentation aimed at convincing the passengers that they have a realistic chance of surviving a 700 kph dive into the ocean...Tuis anyone?

[scumdog]

Apart from the little mime act at the beginng of the flight, and handing out the boiled sweets at the end, what do the hosties *really* do that affects your safety during the flight? Isn't it the guys up the front who do the driving?

IF the guys up front screw-up and IF you survive you might just need said hostie to aid your egress from the now defunct and non-flying ex-mode of transport...

[McJim]

Fine, losing her job is OTT, but if the cops hadn't told her employer, she would have gone to work anyway.

Beef should be with Air New Zealand, not the cops for informing them.

Nah, she blew over the limit and went home, called in sick. Then worked a further 5 months without incident. Some officious wee bastard then pipes up "Oi, Air NZ, one of your employees lost their licence coz they was pissed!"
Air NZ "Oh yeah? Who was that then?"
"Miss X"
"Ah ,she's a really good employee with an unblemished record. Lets show the country what a bunch of officious fuckwits we are and sack her!"
"Yayeee!"
"Yayeeee!"
Officious fuckwits all together now "YAYEEEEE!"

[pete376403]

IF the guys up front screw-up and IF you survive you might just need said hostie to aid your egress from the now defunct and non-flying ex-mode of transport...
not forgetting IF the hosties survive as well.
When I fly I really do make a note of the nearest exit. I also try and book seats at the back.

[scissorhands]

In the back is where the parties are usually at too, makes sense to me

Budejovicky Budvar

[Skyryder]

Police made a call prior to a conviction. How that can be justified I've yet to hear.


Skyryder

[FROSTY]

OK. You're on your way to work after a hard night on the Raz, you get pulled through a checkpoint and blow well over the legal limit.

Is it safe for you to be operating a fork hoist in that condition?

Look at it from the reverse, one of your family members is killed while at work by someone driving a forkhoist still pissed from the night before. Turns out the cops did him for DIC on the way to work yet didn't inform his employer that he was unfit to work as they'd read a thread on KB saying that it shouldn't be legal for them to so. You cool with that?

Sorry big fella, I fully support them notifying an employer that someone's been done DIC on their way to work.
I think in the middle of the speil you missed the point.
She was drivin to work thinking she was sober.
Turns out she wasn't. so she WENT HOME.
Or in other words she did the socially responsible thing.
Had the cops phoned her employer straight away I get it -she's in a position where she has to potentially make life or death decisions. They diddn't-it was well after it was a safety to the public issue they contact her employer. To me thats wrong

[scissorhands]

Police made a call prior to a conviction. How that can be justified I've yet to hear.


Skyryder

A conviction takes ages to happen, when she could have kept arriving for work pissed in the meantime. Every time risking the lives of the air passengers. So it took the cops 2 weeks to figure this out and make their decision to contact her employer. So what they didint figure this straight away. Better late than never.

They may have monitired her texts or phone and found she was partying before work on a regular basis, maybe assuming that she was still driving drunk, and arriving for work drunk.

No way she could blow 420 and not know she was drunk. No way. So apparently she lied about the 5 drinks then off to bed story. It was probably glaringly obvious she had been at it all night, and probably maintained a dishonest stance to the officer who stopped her.

I feel that the police have justification. To PROTECT and to serve

[Ixion]

[QUOTE=scissorhands;1129532667..

They may have monitired her texts or phone and found she was partying before work on a regular basis, maybe assuming that she was still driving drunk, and arriving for work drunk.

...[/QUOTE]

Oh dear. I would REALLY hope not. That would be WAY criminal action bby the cops. You really are trying to drop them in it aren't you.

[scissorhands]

Just trying to keep it real. I was monitored, maybe still am. Hiya piggies!!!

Not worth getting all worked up when there is nothing one can do about it.

[White trash]

Nah, she blew over the limit and went home, called in sick. Then worked a further 5 months without incident. Some officious wee bastard then pipes up "Oi, Air NZ, one of your employees lost their licence coz they was pissed!"
Air NZ "Oh yeah? Who was that then?"
"Miss X"
"Ah ,she's a really good employee with an unblemished record. Lets show the country what a bunch of officious fuckwits we are and sack her!"
"Yayeee!"
"Yayeeee!"
Officious fuckwits all together now "YAYEEEEE!"
Maybe she'd been rooting a cop and gave him herpes or something? I dunno, I don't care.

[Mikkel]

not forgetting IF the hosties survive as well.
When I fly I really do make a note of the nearest exit. I also try and book seats at the back.

On plane travel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DagVklB4VHQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjKciefHo38&feature=related

[SPman]

A conviction takes ages to happen, when she could have kept arriving for work pissed in the meantime. Every time risking the lives of the air passengers. What - by throwing up and falling over them on the plane.. So it took the cops 2 weeks to figure this out and make their decision to contact her employer. So what they didint figure this straight away. Better late than never. fucking thick cops if it takes that long...

She could have been abducted by aliens, as well.
:rant:
More and more we have officious officials making judgement calls on what people could have done, or could be doing, regardless of whether they have any proof or justification beyond reasonable doubt, that that is what a person actually has done or is doing.

Oh...that's right, now the cops can seize your home and property on the balance of probabilities, that it was obtained by nefarious means, rather than proven beyond reasonable doubt. perhaps one of the officers tried it on with her, got rejected, and, on the balance of probabilities, decided a week or two later she was a dangerous drunken slut and informed her employers.......

Or maybe they are just nasty dickheads who enjoy being cunts!

[Ixion]

Maybe she'd been rooting a cop and gave him herpes or something? I dunno, I don't care.

Not many people do. Jack's alright too, BTW

[Skyryder]

Can we use the Official Information Act to see how many Police officers have got off DIC, or had no charges layed for it in the last year ?


This might help

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/3043245/Drink-drive-police-get-off-charges


Skyryder

[Kevnz]

Good work Skyryder but not much of a suprise

[Skyryder]

A conviction takes ages to happen, when she could have kept arriving for work pissed in the meantime. Every time risking the lives of the air passengers. So it took the cops 2 weeks to figure this out and make their decision to contact her employer. So what they didint figure this straight away. Better late than never.

They may have monitired her texts or phone and found she was partying before work on a regular basis, maybe assuming that she was still driving drunk, and arriving for work drunk.

No way she could blow 420 and not know she was drunk. No way. So apparently she lied about the 5 drinks then off to bed story. It was probably glaringly obvious she had been at it all night, and probably maintained a dishonest stance to the officer who stopped her.

I feel that the police have justification. To PROTECT and to serve


Air New Zealand can do a random drug test any time they like. It's there responsibility to see that their staff act in accordance with the laws while on duty. The difference is on duty. It's the polices role to see that we obey the laws in our everyday life. The police crossed the line and got their roles muddled up.

The other thing that comes out of this is the inconsistancy. Do they ring up the employer of every body they catch on a DIC. Not according to my sources. Do they ring up everbody they catch that drives a passanger vehicle. Nope again.


Skyryder

[Skyryder]

Good work Skyryder but not much of a suprise

Yea the cop that injured himself so that he was not required for the evidential test. That was an eye opener.

The rest to be fair to the police, is the juries fault.


Skyryder

[scissorhands]

Okay. Say you are an employer and some of your front of house staff who is hired on appearance and public image for your product/service. Say that employee starts getting a seriously acne poxy looking face because of a health problem or choc addiction whatever. So, your swish jewelry store is now remembered for that horribly poxy looking chick on the counter. Your fucked by employment laws. Your business crashes and you have to let people go

Hostee would have breathed booze breath on a lot of people, about to fly. Not very reassuring.

Mind you, I've never smelt a fart on a plane, odours seem to get wisked away immediately by the a/c

She may have been a right nasty cow who deserved all this? How many Joe Q's blow 420 on the way to work? Did she have a behavior problem? She also has many duties regarding safe flight of the plane, and may be a poor influence on other staff.

I have a flat downstairs and am some times called to step in when a feud breaks out between the flatmates that fund my extravagant lifestyle. Sometimes I feel sorry for the departing flatty who could be given another chance. Usually I'm glad to see the arse of the trouble maker. Some situations you gotta break some eggs

[Ixion]

..

She would have breathed booze on a lot of people, about to fly. Not very reassuring.

.

Two weeks later ?

[scissorhands]

I just read the article above about the low 38% conviction rate for pickled piggies. Okay. I understand the rage here. Its not right that they get off and others get slammed like this woman.

I still maintain plane staff and surgeons need to remain very sober

[Skyryder]

The other factor that has not been mentioned (I think) the woman rang up and did not report for work. So once she knew she was over the limit she removed herself from working.

She took all practable steps possible for the safety of her passangers once she knew she was over the limit.

There are many who get on the piss in the evening and drive to work oblivious that they are still over the limit. Not an excuse but she did the right thing when she knew. Not like that cop who injured himself knowing that he would not be required for a blood sample.


Skyryder