Nick Smith "size of..increase...is too much"

[babey8]

Nick Smith admits the "size of the increase that the ACC Board has proposed is too much" :

http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/acc-levy-hike-review-after-major-protest-3152378

This was AFTER the country wide protest to parliament. He also says "But I think it's inevitable that there has to be ACC increases across the board". John Key says "those recommended by the ACC board, they're not necessarily the ones the government will adopt"

So it looks like ACC increases are inevitable but not what acc is saying. So who knows, maybe your levies will only increase by an extra $10. We don't know until the decision is finalised next year.

Now if Nick Smith is not going to back down completely after a country wide protest i don't think smaller protests are going to achieve anything.

Lets face it, it has to be a good reason for these increases because politicians know increased taxes etc are not going to get them votes.

The article also says Nick had a private meeting with bikers. Any of them here?

Future protests are just a waste of your fuel guys. The guy has said increases are inevitable which means certain.

[ready4whatever]

Hes changing his stance to 'I think...' which is good hes showing signs of folding. But dont give up on the protests keep em coming

[mashman]

[QUOTE=babey8;1129530435
The article also says Nick had a private meeting with bikers. Any of them here?

Future protests are just a waste of your fuel guys. The guy has said increases are inevitable which means certain.[/QUOTE]

Question 1: Yes all of them are here!

Your Statement: I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt before. But BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT You lie down and take it if you want Babey! But if the government can't prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that ACC can't work, i don't want to know, because they obviously don't either.

[pzkpfw]

Hands up anyone who didn't know, prior to the Bikeoi, that this would be the response from the Government...

Yes, I see very few hands up.

Geez, I'm now certain that "bey8" is meant to rhyme with "bait". Just need to figure out what the "ba" means.

This poster is a troll.

[Squiggles]

Any of them here?

Yes im here :cool:

[Waxxa]

we pay to much in levies now! I dont want to see an increase at all...

[MSTRS]

we pay to much in levies now! I dont want to see an increase at all...

Yep. Increase? BULLSHIT!! Parity with cars. That's the line in the sand.

[caseye]

Nick Smith admits the "size of the increase that the ACC Board has proposed is too much" :

http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/acc-levy-hike-review-after-major-protest-3152378

This was AFTER the country wide protest to parliament. He also says "But I think it's inevitable that there has to be ACC increases across the board". John Key says "those recommended by the ACC board, they're not necessarily the ones the government will adopt"

So it looks like ACC increases are inevitable but not what acc is saying. So who knows, maybe your levies will only increase by an extra $10. We don't know until the decision is finalised next year.

Now if Nick Smith is not going to back down completely after a country wide protest i don't think smaller protests are going to achieve anything.

Lets face it, it has to be a good reason for these increases because politicians know increased taxes etc are not going to get them votes.

The article also says Nick had a private meeting with bikers. Any of them here?

Future protests are just a waste of your fuel guys. The guy has said increases are inevitable which means certain.

We were all there, were you?"Bullshit"
This is my response to this poster.
Further, if you believe that the increase is going to go from $700 to just a mere $10.00 dollars you MUST Be Crazy!
We were told the increase will go ahead but not by as much as they, ACC has recommended, this would be a concession of somewhere in the region of maybe 50% so perhaps only an increase of $360.00 you prepared for that?
Also as has been pointed out elsewhere in KB and news papers countrywide. the Privitsation of ACC is what all of this is about and that means everyone! will be up for bigger increases again, so we're fighting to stop these barstards Now, not when it's all over rover.
:calm::girlfight:

[Ronin]

Nick Smith admits the "size of the increase that the ACC Board has proposed is too much" :

http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/acc-levy-hike-review-after-major-protest-3152378

This was AFTER the country wide protest to parliament. He also says "But I think it's inevitable that there has to be ACC increases across the board". John Key says "those recommended by the ACC board, they're not necessarily the ones the government will adopt"

So it looks like ACC increases are inevitable but not what acc is saying. So who knows, maybe your levies will only increase by an extra $10. We don't know until the decision is finalised next year.

Now if Nick Smith is not going to back down completely after a country wide protest i don't think smaller protests are going to achieve anything.

Lets face it, it has to be a good reason for these increases because politicians know increased taxes etc are not going to get them votes.

The article also says Nick had a private meeting with bikers. Any of them here?

Future protests are just a waste of your fuel guys. The guy has said increases are inevitable which means certain.

I would give my right testy to know where your IP addy resolves back to.


both of katmans

[scumdog]

He's probably away to get the stats for the latest m/b fatal near Kaikoura.:(

Once again, our own worst enemy, literally throwing valuable ammo to our opposition..:weep:

Anyhoo, back on topic....

[Mom]

Mods, can we have this thread moved to Jokes and Humour. I think this new member is a bit confused as to where things should be posted. Either that or we should take pity on them for their ignorance.


Now if Nick Smith is not going to back down completely after a country wide protest i don't think smaller protests are going to achieve anything.

The protest was in Wellington, all though the riders came from all over the country, the protest was actually in Wellington.

Lets face it, it has to be a good reason for these increases because politicians know increased taxes etc are not going to get them votes.

I am quite sure the government think they have a good reason for increasing the levies, as far as votes go, I am equally certain they have not factored in the number of votes held, or influenced by bikers either

Future protests are just a waste of your fuel guys. The guy has said increases are inevitable which means certain.

It saddens me that you are part of the toe in door, she'll be right fools out there.

On second thought Mods. Leave this here, I dont go into Jokes and Humour often, this way I will still find it to have a laugh at.

[Laxi]

Nick Smith admits the "size of the increase that the ACC Board has proposed is too much" :

http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/acc-levy-hike-review-after-major-protest-3152378

This was AFTER the country wide protest to parliament. He also says "But I think it's inevitable that there has to be ACC increases across the board". John Key says "those recommended by the ACC board, they're not necessarily the ones the government will adopt"

So it looks like ACC increases are inevitable but not what acc is saying. So who knows, maybe your levies will only increase by an extra $10. We don't know until the decision is finalised next year.

Now if Nick Smith is not going to back down completely after a country wide protest i don't think smaller protests are going to achieve anything.

Lets face it, it has to be a good reason for these increases because politicians know increased taxes etc are not going to get them votes.

The article also says Nick had a private meeting with bikers. Any of them here?

Future protests are just a waste of your fuel guys. The guy has said increases are inevitable which means certain.

considering your previous thread, I think you're worse than a troll:calm: seems now you think the 9000+ people that turned up to parliament are sheep and are just going to go away because prick smith throws them a bone! what part of afair ACC system do you not understand, the fact that you keep coming back somewhere your views are constantly blasted just raises my susspisions of you even more:whistle:

[ready4whatever]

we pay to much in levies now! I dont want to see an increase at all...

Keep fighting until they lower the levy! now that would be impressive

[YellowDog]

Keep fighting until they lower the levy! now that would be impressive
Yes I do agree with you.

Same logic as our thread owner uses says that if they'd made it $2000 and then reduced it to $800, we'd be far better off.

Still Bullshit at any increase.

[Mom]

Keep fighting until they lower the levy! now that would be impressive

Can you please take the time to educate yourself about what is going on? Please, despite the fact that all the info is out there for you to read, it appears you may have missed the important stuff. Will you take the time to read a bit about what is happening, and the consequences of that? Please, just for me?

Failing that, stop spouting utter crap :sunny:

[ready4whatever]

Can you please take the time to educate yourself about what is going on? Please, despite the fact that all the info is out there for you to read, it appears you may have missed the important stuff. Will you take the time to read a bit about what is happening, and the consequences of that? Please, just for me?

Failing that, stop spouting utter crap :sunny:

I know whats going on. Why can't you be more like Yellowdog. sence of humour much? you sound like an android.

[YellowDog]

I know whats going on. Why can't you be more like Yellowdog. sence of humour much? you sound like an android.
Are we talking cross dressing or Bollox ?

[McJim]

He's probably away to get the stats for the latest m/b fatal near Kaikoura.:(

Once again, our own worst enemy, literally throwing valuable ammo to our opposition..:weep:

Anyhoo, back on topic....

The fatalities do not assist our opposition's arguments as they are not ongoing ACC drains. If anything the ACC funeral payouts are less than the $19,000 per case per year average as calculated from ACC overall figures and therefore serve to reduce the average payout per case per year for motorcyclists.

I think this whole thing is an error of judgement on the part of ACC and of National. They, like many New Zealanders of a certain age, thought all bikers were wild unruly types in patched gangs and blokes living on benefits. They are fast discovering that motorcyclists in general are middle aged professional men and women with access to huge intellectual resources and capable of effective networking and promoting their own political agenda.

I think they got bitten on the bum a bit.

[ready4whatever]

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[Brian d marge]

He has been distancing himself and the party from the price rise for some time now

its the ACC board now

Who if my memory serves me ,,,He appointed the select committee??

No Mr Smith this is a national party agenda and don't you forget it !

Stephen

[caseye]

I know whats going on. Why can't you be more like Yellowdog. sence of humour much? you sound like an android.

Theres a time and a place for humour, unless you hadn't noticed ( highly likely) we're damnd serious about this particular issue.
No Increase is our goal, Not some harf arsed compromise where they shaft us anyway.

As for Mom sounding like an Android@#$%! Wow your'e still alive, I'd quit while I was still ahead if I was you.
Curious now, I am, do you know who Mom is, what she's already achieved regards the ACC Levy campaign?
If you do I'd have thought some well earned respect was in order, not some tongue in cheek smartarsing comments.
Sorry Mom, I know you can do it for yourself, but this annoys me intensly.
A foot soldier.

[NighthawkNZ]

Nick Smith admits the "size of the increase that the ACC Board has proposed is too much" :

...

So it looks like ACC increases are inevitable but not what acc is saying. So who knows, maybe your levies will only increase by an extra $10. We don't know until the decision is finalised next year.

Now if Nick Smith is not going to back down completely after a country wide protest i don't think smaller protests are going to achieve anything.

Lets face it, it has to be a good reason for these increases because politicians know increased taxes etc are not going to get them votes.

The article also says Nick had a private meeting with bikers. Any of them here?

Future protests are just a waste of your fuel guys. The guy has said increases are inevitable which means certain.

What the hell are you smoking?

So despite that ACC made more than enough to meet all claims, and banked a 1 billion, has a 11 billion in the bank and despite that ACC is a no fault scheme that is not suppose to be about risk, despite that ACC's own stat figures don't really add up and make sense anyway, despite the 12 million made is only rego's, not counting fuel or that we can only ride or drive one vehicle at a time arguement and most own more than one vehicle, Despite that Nick Smith and his all vehichle are subsiding $77 does not add up, despite that the true cost of the levy should be around $3000 simple does not add up either. Despite all this you reckon the increase should happen?

Actually there are more arguements against it all but I was getting sick of saying despite.... and that word kind of sounds funny now...

[ready4whatever]

Theres a time and a place for humour, unless you hadn't noticed ( highly likely) we're damnd serious about this particular issue.
No Increase is our goal, Not some harf arsed compromise where they shaft us anyway.

As for Mom sounding like an Android@#$%! Wow your'e still alive, I'd quit while I was still ahead if I was you.
Curious now, I am, do you know who Mom is, what she's already achieved regards the ACC Levy campaign?
If you do I'd have thought some well earned respect was in order, not some tongue in cheek smartarsing comments.
Sorry Mom, I know you can do it for yourself, but this annoys me intensly.
A foot soldier.

Whats she acheived? im sure alot of you have tried very hard, does not mean you have achieved. prices ares still due to rize. so try harder