Dump truck spilling fine gravel

[Leseid]

I was driving along in the car and started noticing a lot of that fine grade gravel on the road, the type that's really hard to see and as slippery as Bin Larden. I caught up to the dump truck that was spilling it all over the center of the road, so I followed it to get some details.

The driver ended up approaching me as I was parked up in the car taking down details. He was very concerned to hear how much gravel was leaking.

What's the deal with contractors and the shit that comes of the back of there trucks?

[CookMySock]

He's only very concerned because someone is writing down his details. I bet he wasn't so very concerned 15 mins ago when he first discovered it.

Do him like a dinner, bro. There is no "deal with contractors". They are just people who think they can get away with shit, until just after they get busted doing it. So bust him doing it.

Steve

[ManDownUnder]

Drivers are responsible for their loads. End of story

[StoneY]

Mandatory 2 grand, up to 20 grand for the driver (let alone the company) and if they discover his tailgate is defective, it WILL be the 20 grand mark!

Nark him in man thats 200 motorcyclists he could have taken out in a single day with his gravel spills (as an ex truckie I have no sympathy for the prick)

[Chooky]

Yer... insecure load........:(

[Leseid]

How does one go about narking in a truck driver spilling shit on the road? Is that what the *555 number is for?

[Yow Ling]

just let it go, 200 bike riders didnt actually get killed on this stretch of road. If you want to be a cop join up.

[huff3r]

just let it go, 200 bike riders didnt actually get killed on this stretch of road. If you want to be a cop join up.

It's the possibility! If everyone "lets it go" then no-one would ever get prosecuted, and someone WILL get killed.

Its the "i'm too good to nark" attitude that causes so much shit here anyway, no consequences for anyones actions cos they know no-ones gonna tell on them.

[Yow Ling]

It's the possibility! If everyone "lets it go" then no-one would ever get prosecuted, and someone WILL get killed.

Its the "i'm too good to nark" attitude that causes so much shit here anyway, no consequences for anyones actions cos they know no-ones gonna tell on them.
So i take it you *555 whenever you see sombody speeding or popping a wheelie, if its a hazard ring the council they send a truck with a man with a broom.

[Laxi]

It's the possibility! If everyone "lets it go" then no-one would ever get prosecuted, and someone WILL get killed.

Its the "i'm too good to nark" attitude that causes so much shit here anyway, no consequences for anyones actions cos they know no-ones gonna tell on them.

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[carver]

He's only very concerned because someone is writing down his details. I bet he wasn't so very concerned 15 mins ago when he first discovered it.

Do him like a dinner, bro. There is no "deal with contractors". They are just people who think they can get away with shit, until just after they get busted doing it. So bust him doing it.

Steve

fuck off man.
when driving a flat deck, i used to check my load every 2 mins~ in my mirrors.
Even now I check my load on every stop
It depends on how it was loaded, some digger drivers cant load for shit


Drivers are responsible for their loads. End of story

insecure loading

[Leseid]

just let it go, 200 bike riders didnt actually get killed on this stretch of road. If you want to be a cop join up.

Having had formal training in industrial work sites, I identified a hazard and acted upon it. And had I not been a motorcyclist and known the hazards of the tiny stones, I would have even taken any note what so ever.

I can see where your coming from, but personally I don't think I could live with my self knowing I didn't act on something that could have prevented a death or serous harm to a person.

[trailblazer]

and if the fine gravel caused stone chips to your car or bike give the details to your insurance company and they will pay you out and go through the right channels to get truck driver prosecuted. Trust me i deal with this shit all the time at work. It is the drivers responsabillity to make sure his load is not spilling out onto the road. Evan bark from a logging truck.

[Ronin]

insecure loading

No matter how the truck is loaded. Driver is responsible.

[Ronin]

just let it go, 200 bike riders didnt actually get killed on this stretch of road. If you want to be a cop join up.

I have a mental picture of you in a ditch saying...."I wish someone had reported that gravel"

[hayd3n]

and if the fine gravel caused stone chips to your car or bike give the details to your insurance company and they will pay you out and go through the right channels to get truck driver prosecuted. Trust me i deal with this shit all the time at work. It is the drivers responsabillity to make sure his load is not spilling out onto the road. Evan bark from a logging truck.

same as becoming the father of a baby

[carver]

No matter how the truck is loaded. Driver is responsible.

legally speaking yes

[Grubber]

just let it go, 200 bike riders didnt actually get killed on this stretch of road. If you want to be a cop join up.
Ditto. Hes a guy just trying to earn a crust and feed his family and it does appear he did show some concern once he was made aware. The man will probably go fix the problem now...Job done!

[CookMySock]

So i take it you *555 whenever you see sombody speeding or popping a wheelie, if its a hazard ring the council they send a truck with a man with a broom.Speeding or popping a wheelie doesnt AFFECT anyone. Spraying fine gravel all over the road affects LOTS of people. Not the same.

You cant get a man with a broom to sweep up several kilometers of gravel. They just aren't going to do that.

People who do shit on the road that is hazardous to everyone, get charged. Who gives a fuck anyway, if people don't report us doing a wheelie, then boo fucken hoo for them, and we if pot someone doing stupid and get them busted, then boo fucken hoo for them as well. :2thumbsup

Steve

[StoneY]

Ditto. Hes a guy just trying to earn a crust and feed his family and it does appear he did show some concern once he was made aware. The man will probably go fix the problem now...Job done!

No he is someone entrusted to keep his 39 tonne killing machine in good order, and his load secure

Pure laziness, no excuse, and I spent 4 years in the cab of big movers, THERE IS NO EXCUSE for leaving your load on the road, and losing GRAVEL as far as I am concerned is a fucking crime, not a traffic offense

[duckonin]

So i take it you *555 whenever you see sombody speeding or popping a wheelie, if its a hazard ring the council they send a truck with a man with a broom.

Fuck they would, that costs time and money, plus it is actually work...:dodge:

[duckonin]

and if the fine gravel caused stone chips to your car or bike give the details to your insurance company and they will pay you out and go through the right channels to get truck driver prosecuted. Trust me i deal with this shit all the time at work. It is the drivers responsabillity to make sure his load is not spilling out onto the road. Evan bark from a logging truck.

Yep a small piece of bark coming off a truck who is doing the legal 90k's (yeah right) that hits you will hurt:argh:, and if it is big enough it could be enough to knock you off your machine...The driver is the person responsible for his load....

[Griffin]

just let it go, 200 bike riders didnt actually get killed on this stretch of road. If you want to be a cop join up.

Nice 'wank wank' attitude dude... gravel on the road IS a huge hazard - to all bikers. The driver of the truck should be aware of what is happening with the load he is hauling, whether its tonnes of scrap metal, gravel or fairy dust!

I hope you dont have to have the unfortunate luck to come across a patch of randomly spilled gravel on a sweeping bend to sort your blazee attitude out cos then you would be wishing that someone had done something about reporting the careless bugger who dropped it.

And as for if you wanna be a cop, join up - cops rely on members of the public to be proactive about reporting offences... you saying if someone was burgling your neighbours house that you wouldnt ring the cops cos you didnt wanna nark on them... get a grip!

[Yow Ling]

This gravel thing , dont you guys think you are overdoing it a bit, Councils spread grit on roads during winter, you might not like it , but its a SOP to keep the roads safe for the majority, this thread is starting to look like the ACC thread full of outrage about FA

[Bounce001]

No point ringing *555 or going to the police station to make a report. The best thing to do would be ring the company he drives for and complain. The cops won't do anything, but at least the company might.

Coming back from Wellington after the protest ride, I had a truck pull out into a line of traffic at the Napier/Taupo intersection and run me off the road. I was lucky enough to be able to go onto the pavement and around him. When I went to the cop shop they said they might look into it but there was nothing they could really do. Only if there were enough complaints would they think about laying charges.

I had more luck with the company, who were going to follow it up. As it was a NZ Post truck, they weren't too impressed.

[MsKABC]

Speeding or popping a wheelie doesnt AFFECT anyone.

It does if you lose control and crash into someone, which is why there are laws against it :rolleyes:

[Leseid]

This gravel thing , dont you guys think you are overdoing it a bit, Councils spread grit on roads during winter, you might not like it , but its a SOP to keep the roads safe for the majority, this thread is starting to look like the ACC thread full of outrage about FA

The difference there is they often put up a sign letting road uses know there is grit on the road surface. And there are generally less motorcycles on the roads over winter. I don't want lazy contractors ruining what few nice clean roads we have around Wellington during the best time of the year.

Thinking back on the situation, I don't think the driver could actually see the fine gravel exiting the truck. But there was a build up of the gravel on his tail light shroud, just under the gap in the gate. I really think gravel of this grade should be delivered in drop sacks, or from a truck that has a bed that is design for that particular grade of gravel. I also got the impression the truck was a general use dump truck, and the driver wasn't use to transporting that kind of load.

[red mermaid]

Mandatory 2 grand, up to 20 grand for the driver (let alone the company) and if they discover his tailgate is defective, it WILL be the 20 grand mark!

Nark him in man thats 200 motorcyclists he could have taken out in a single day with his gravel spills (as an ex truckie I have no sympathy for the prick)

Quite a bit wrong with this statement above.

For the driver it is a maximum $2000 fine if taken to court, or a $600 instant fine which is the usual method of dealing with this, which is an insecure load.

If taken to court the fine is usually round the same figure as the instant fine, although often less.

[unrealone]

This gravel thing , dont you guys think you are overdoing it a bit, Councils spread grit on roads during winter, you might not like it , but its a SOP to keep the roads safe for the majority, this thread is starting to look like the ACC thread full of outrage about FA

You're a tool... go ride your bike in some other country, save us all some tax payers money picking your ass up off the road when you ass off on gravel.

[NordieBoy]

I don't want lazy contractors ruining what few nice clean roads we have around Wellington during the best time of the year.

Send them down here!
We have too many lazy contractors ruining what few nice gravel roads we have by laying seal on them.